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Waking up to nothing from g8 is disappointing.
I know that people want lynches to be held accountable, but maybe we should discuss leaving strategies at least among the pairs that have suspicions rather than hope we get enough lynches.
My biggest concern though is the g3 and l9 pairing because they’re not going to leave.
I mean this game is probably a wash and a loss anyway, but it’d be nice if we could forceone scum pairing out at least.- Lady 7
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And this is what has garnered you suspicion so yeah this reasoning for this read makes no senseIn post 3972, Gentleman 3 wrote:
Uhh... I'm pretty sure I was more interested than anyone else in finding a survivable partner.In post 3965, Gentleman 7 wrote:The entire pre-dance phase, he's not angling to set himself up with a survivable partner, which I think is one of scum's main goals.- Lady 7
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You made a sweeping statement about every other pairing that virtually boils down to "I want to be the last one alive" with very little to support any of it.In post 3952, Gentleman 3 wrote:
What specifically about it?In post 3950, Gentleman 8 wrote:G3 talk to me about the why for 3880 when you get a chance.
Notably, your stances are:
G8/L5 is scummy because many reasons.
G2/L9 should be dead already.
G1/L2 is scummy.
G7/L7 should be the other F4.
Combine that with the awkward defense of you, from G7, and I want to know why you think things 1-3.- Lady 2
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Don't, I will go instead.In post 3981, Lady 7 wrote:Soooo the game is pretty stagnant, we haven’t come to a decision for a lynch, and I do t think I’m in a town/town pair anyway. I’m seriously considering leaving tonight before I head to bed. That gives you guys 3 days and a couple flips to work with.- Gentleman 2
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Sorry, I'm the kinda guy who will try a few times to break into the conversation organically and then when that turns out to be unsuccessful I usually act out a bit because I'm a baby and need to control my emotions better then I calm down and make good faith efforts to build bridges with people or lean on someone as a crutch but after getting ignored enough times and literally seeing my posts disappear in an ever growing thread I lose interest and therefore desire to post its especially exasperating when your dance partner claims to be as unsure of everything going on as like the 3rd person to hold this slot which i find curious.
I know people think l9 could be scum, i dont think thats a bad read.
Knwoing that, where should I be looking for todays lynch?- Gentleman 8
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Aight, Gentlamans first:
1: Seems to be more concerned with trying to find scum than trying to look town, which is a good thing. Not sure how I feel about the emphasis on traditional scumhunting over townblocking, but of the 5-ish recent posts I get townpings from 3842, 3961 and 3963.
2: IC
3: Seems very survivalistic and reason light. Probably the scummiest recent posting. The idea that he wouldn't understand what I wanted him to explain about the post that is "I want to lynch everyone but me for *reasons*" is also pretty
7: Defense of G3 is pretty awkward, or at least is painted as pretty awkward by L2, L7, G3. I should probably look into context around 3896. 3965 and the subsequent complete disagreement from G3 is interesting. The fact that he completely agrees with 3's mission statement in 3968 isveryinteresting.- Gentleman 8
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I don't know for sure, I feel bad because what if I'm wrong and G1 is Town but honestly I do trust you L7 and I think G1 is more likely scum than G7. I would hate to be wrong though! I agree that the game seems like an uphill battle from here at best and it would feel really terrible to not even force out one scum but I do actually think G1 is more likely scum than G7.In post 3983, Lady 2 wrote:
Don't, I will go instead.In post 3981, Lady 7 wrote:Soooo the game is pretty stagnant, we haven’t come to a decision for a lynch, and I do t think I’m in a town/town pair anyway. I’m seriously considering leaving tonight before I head to bed. That gives you guys 3 days and a couple flips to work with.
Still want L9 gone. I guess if I'm wrong and G1 is Town then I don't even know, but certainly if he's scum that pair will have to go.
I hope you recover well from your cold.
Edit: I won't leave for the next 12 hours which I guess means Iwillleave tomorrow morning unless there's a very compelling reason not to do so. Sound good?- Gentleman 3
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Your slot was completely absent through almost the entire game and that makes it almost impossible to confidently read, even if you were to become active starting now. L5, meanwhile, had a whole pile of unsavory interactions which you should be able to ISO her and see.In post 3982, Gentleman 8 wrote:Notably, your stances are:
G8/L5 is scummy because many reasons.
G2/L9 should be dead already.
G1/L2 is scummy.
G7/L7 should be the other F4.
Combine that with the awkward defense of you, from G7, and I want to know why you think things 1-3.
L9 has done nothing to warrant being townread and despite this, she would have probably been the correct NK had she been town because of the risk of her becoming obvtown or townread by G2.
G1 was also absent and has been kinda unimpressive, plus he was G6's major scumread, which I don't want to disregard.
On a related note, the above explanations are not the primary reason I want my pair to survive. The primary reason is that G6 and L8 were both clearly strong players (stronger than me, likely), and I also townread them both, and they both were confident my pair was T/T. What I've given above are just auxiliary arguments, to supplement the main one.- Gentleman 3
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I mean I would think you would have realized that that post was a culmination of the feelings of a lot of people over the course of the game. I wouldn't just pull something out of my ass and present it like that.In post 3985, Gentleman 8 wrote:The idea that he wouldn't understand what I wanted him to explain about the post that is "I want to lynch everyone but me for *reasons*" is also pretty- Gentleman 8
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Ladies:
L2: Major townvibes. Particularly 3966. If I pick an endgame pair right now, it's this one.
L5: Erratic posting in the PT aside, I think G1 summed up my worries here well in 3842. Basically, the PT reads almost exactly like the PT I had with scum in a previous dance game and I can't really say much more without outing myself, which I think is not kosher, even if it can't be proven? (Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't care if people know who I am.)
L6: Is a player in this game? Maybe?
L7: Townvibes, again. I don't feel any pocketing attempts towards me, and I left a giant hole open for someone to try to push me towards leaving which she addressed but then dropped.
L9: I feel like in a gamestate where everyone seems confused as fuck, L9 seems to be the one who knows the most. Not sure if that's an AI thing for her, but it is definitely eyebrow raising. I'd like a readslist from her, tbh, along with reasoning behind her PoE. Honestly not sure why she's catching flak for scumreading me if I'm a lurker slot and she does have reasoning for the PoE though.
Mathematically, I want to shoot for a doublescum rn if at all possible. L9 should be tabled until F4 or a significantly less confused gamestate, because that pair CAN'T be doublescum.
VOTE: G3
I'd probably also go in on a G7 lynch, but I feel like L7 is a better bet to keep around longer.
If someone could explain to me why the thread at large seems to thing G1/L5/L9 are all flavors of scummy I'd be appreciative.- Gentleman 8
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3 days, 160 pages, multiple lynches to get to. You know what's happened, link me to important posts.In post 3989, Gentleman 3 wrote:I mean I would think you would have realized that that post was a culmination of the feelings of a lot of people over the course of the game. I wouldn't just pull something out of my ass and present it like that.- Gentleman 8
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Okay on the one hand I guess thatIn post 3990, Gentleman 8 wrote:L5: Erratic posting in the PT aside, I think G1 summed up my worries here well in 3842. Basically, the PT reads almost exactly like the PT I had with scum in a previous dance game and I can't really say much more without outing myself, which I think is not kosher, even if it can't be proven? (Correct me if I'm wrong, I don't care if people know who I am.)isvaluable information, can you give some context? Because what we saw of previous L5 was really really erratic and disruptive, like so bad I knew it was futuile to engage her. I don't even think it was deliberate scum tactics per se, that's the difficult thng about it, but engaging with someone who clearly broke the rules and just continued on in the game was just something I didn't know how to handle from a read perspective to be honest. And previous!G8 was entirely absent. Can you tell us anything more specific (without quoting, obviously) about L5's behavior in the PT? Especially if you can give context about what former G8 said there when he was absent in the thread it could be useful. I don't want to have blinders on completely about G1 or L9 ... it's difficult here. I haven't really thought I'm in a T-T pair for a while now at least but I could be conf!paranoia-ing there as well, the way I think L7 might feel with regard to G7.- Gentleman 8
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Our PT boils down to 3 posts that look solvey, 1 post complaining about how /my slot/ isn't here to help. There actually is a bit of "I wish you were here so I could read you!" and some "If you're mafia I'll figure you out because I am teh best!" (I said there wasn't to see who jumped on that, and those are obviously not direct quotes but the gist I got).
In the situation I was referring to, I lurked through most of the game and my partner was constantly complaining that I needed to be more active ITT so people would stop scumreading me.
Previous me has exactly 2 posts in the PT, both of which are role-play-y posts about how he's not caught up and he'll fix that. It's honestly kinda sad, because the roleplay aspect of his posts is kinda fun and I'd like to see more of it.- Lady 2
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