Mafiascum.net

In post 3974, Titus wrote:

In post 3973, MathBlade wrote:

In post 3970, Titus wrote:

In post 3967, MathBlade wrote:The gamestate is your team is claiming a guilty on April.

If you and Mastina wish to rescind that guilty it changes the gamestate but a rescinded guilty isn’t just scumclaiming

So no there is literally no read I can push because reads can not override a guilty claim.

mastina and I disagree on the strength of the setup spec. I have an independent SR of April. It's not a guilty.

Mastina is claiming a guilty then.

You’re a package deal with Mastina per your claim.

Unless she rescinds her claim it’s a guilty.

She said she has info making April scum. That’s called a guilty. It’s not a read it’s a guilty.

That's a read, based off info.

A guilty is different.

In post 3975, MathBlade wrote:

In post 3974, Titus wrote:

In post 3973, MathBlade wrote:

In post 3970, Titus wrote:

In post 3967, MathBlade wrote:The gamestate is your team is claiming a guilty on April.

If you and Mastina wish to rescind that guilty it changes the gamestate but a rescinded guilty isn’t just scumclaiming

So no there is literally no read I can push because reads can not override a guilty claim.

mastina and I disagree on the strength of the setup spec. I have an independent SR of April. It's not a guilty.

Mastina is claiming a guilty then.

You’re a package deal with Mastina per your claim.

Unless she rescinds her claim it’s a guilty.

She said she has info making April scum. That’s called a guilty. It’s not a read it’s a guilty.

That's a read, based off info.

A guilty is different.

Hahahahaha funny.

That’s like saying a cop getting a red on someone is not a guilty it’s a read based off info.

You won’t say what the info is, but say April is lock scum.

That’s called a guilty.

In post 3977, MathBlade wrote:Okay then what’s the information so we can adequately decide for ourselves? If we can’t then we have to take Mastina’s word that it’s a confScum as she said and evaluate in it accordingly.

You either gotta give us something or we have to keep you accountable to your words since your 3P

In post 3978, Titus wrote:

In post 3977, MathBlade wrote:Okay then what’s the information so we can adequately decide for ourselves? If we can’t then we have to take Mastina’s word that it’s a confScum as she said and evaluate in it accordingly.

You either gotta give us something or we have to keep you accountable to your words since your 3P

You can decide for yourself based on the info we are willing to present when we present it.

I have heard the info. It's not making April confScum, so I am willing to discuss what I feel comfortable talking about right now. There's plenty of evidence to discuss the read.

You don't have to vote with us if you think there's a better Army target.

In post 3919, mastina wrote:

In post 3857, MathBlade wrote:Explain your April case.

April is scum because this is April's scum meta through and through, at least one specific version of it.
I've seen this version of FL at least once or twice, the version where he loses a scumbuddy D1 after having lurked through D1 and tries to make a whacky crazy D2 comeback.

Beyond that: FL has shown setup knowledge on multiple fronts indicating TMI that he is scum.
Beyond that: FL claimed a role that I have role-related reasons to believe doesn't exist in the setup.
Beyond that: FL is trying to set up a role chain that I know he is capable of setting up as scum, having done it before.
Beyond that: FL hard-defended Gamma D1 when FL has a scum meta of hard-defending his scumbuddies.
Beyond that: FL has tried to shade and discredit just about every alignment-confirmed player, because if too many players are locktowned, scum are put into an auto-loss and April is trying everything in his power to prevent that.

Trust me.

I don't always know April's scumgame.

But I KNOW that this? This is April's scumgame.

He's not scum by one reason.

He's scum by every reason.

In post 3920, MathBlade wrote:

In post 3916, Titus wrote:@Math, He's town plus that requires all three of mastina/Nero/Me to be lying or scum with A50 and one other that fake claimed d1. Literally, they cannot be evil 3p. It's against my/mastina/Nero's role pm.

Uh huh.
Right.
Exactly.

So here you go my queen.

VOTE: April

The humble peasant is getting sick and tired of telling everyone they’re being idiots for following the 3P instead of the town. I don’t believe you. But I am sick and tired of the BS.

Each time I point out a flaw you just add BS to the pile.

I figure the best way to out you is watch you fail.

And if you don’t I am closer to victory win win.

In post 3763, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I’m mod confirmed not scum.

In post 3982, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 3763, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I’m mod confirmed not scum.

No you aren't?

In post 3834, mastina wrote:

In post 3216, MathBlade wrote:I really want to see what Mastina thinks. Mastina while great at scum isn’t the best liar.

Okay, this is me not lying:
I have VERY good setup based reasons to believe that April Ludgate's roleclaim is complete and utter bullshit.

In post 3984, Bell wrote:@Joyed, you're basically just saying that based off your experience with him you don't think he's scum yeah?

In post 3981, PlusJOYED wrote:ongoing games thing removed ~s

In post 3968, DiamondSentinel wrote:Both third parties, I want your wincons verbatim. I want to know where precisely y’all stand.

In post 3968, DiamondSentinel wrote:Screw it. I’ll play Math’s game because it’s a game I’ve been to interested in playing myself.

Both third parties, I want your wincons verbatim. I want to know where precisely y’all stand.

In post 3973, MathBlade wrote:She said she has info making April scum. That’s called a guilty. It’s not a read it’s a guilty.

In post 3983, MathBlade wrote:If you believe Titus and Mastina they are.

In post 3993, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 3973, MathBlade wrote:She said she has info making April scum. That’s called a guilty. It’s not a read it’s a guilty.

That's not what she said. She said she had mechanical info from which she has deduced that he's scum. But we have no evidence that the deduction was sound.

In post 3985, Something_Smart wrote:

In post 3834, mastina wrote:

In post 3216, MathBlade wrote:I really want to see what Mastina thinks. Mastina while great at scum isn’t the best liar.

Okay, this is me not lying:
I have VERY good setup based reasons to believe that April Ludgate's roleclaim is complete and utter bullshit.

Can you just say them so that we can judge for ourselves whether they're very good or not?

In post 3998, Bell wrote:Math, I never ever want to vote you this game, but whatever your problem is, there must be a better way to communicate in a productive, protown manner.