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Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:20 am
by Menalque
So then can you go and read my ISO and realise you’re describing me in this game
Also, idk how much weight you put in skitter’s reads, nancy, but I was her top TR by EoD yesterday
(Disclaimer: second was S_S, yes I still want to kills him today)
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:20 am
by Menalque
The last time he insisted on doing something anti-town like this while claiming justification in the mechanics he was scum
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:21 am
by Menalque
I can find the game 1 sec
I’d caught Pine (his buddy) and forced a situation where S_S (my very wrong TR) has to choose to save his buddy or kill him and he saved him using mechanics logic (pine had claimed either tracker or watcher or JK or something) to justify it
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:23 am
by Smoke and Mirrors
Can you link it for me?
I’ve seen the case for Peta that Infinity linked but does anyone have a case for Mena other than the him being jk’d N1? I’m happy to entertain that if his play backs it up but without that it’s at least in part wifom.
~N
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:25 am
by Menalque
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p11234840
Read the S—S iso from here or, if you have time, until the end of the day from there
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:26 am
by Something_Smart
How many times do I have to explain my reasoning for voting you before you'll stop repeating the false claim that it's due to mechanics?
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:27 am
by Menalque
In post 3965, Menalque wrote:Like how do I make over 400 posts here defneind myself as scum instead of getting my team to bus the shit out of me? Because if I /do/ successfully defend myself, I’m going down tomorrow, right? Like, look at how much pressure is on me, the only thing that buys scum!me another day is a scumflip
Getting my partners to defend me would be suicide for the scumteam overall because they’d go down after their connections to me once I went down tomorrow. So, I’m only scum here if I’m hard bussing and the effort is to make me look really good. In which case, I have to have persuaded pretty much half the town to NOT vote me here even as scum are ACTIVELY SUPPORTING my death, and I’m good, but I’m not convinced I’m that good
So yeah, unless you think I’m scum with exactly Dave + one of the other people I pressured and who voted me or is leaning me, you need to explain why I suicide the scumteam and lose? Ego isn’t a good enough reason because I will demonstrably make pragmatic sacrifices to win the game even if I don’t /like/ doing them
In post 3966, Menalque wrote:If S_S wants to explain that he thinks that and how he can reasonably think that while knowing me, I might reconsider
But right now I think he’s just scum for backing my exe here
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:28 am
by Menalque
Explain how town you ever makes your vote on me in light of all this?
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:29 am
by Menalque
ESPECIALLY after secrets of the anuket topaz
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:30 am
by Smoke and Mirrors
In post 2887, skitter30 wrote:my strong towns are mena and ss
i'm still weakly townreding infinity
everyone else is in my pool on some level, esp. if dunn is town
Well she was obviously wrong on Lillith. Hmmmmmm
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:31 am
by Menalque
S_S, look me in the eye and tell me my alignment is different to what it was in this game:
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=83553
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:31 am
by Menalque
In post 3984, Smoke and Mirrors wrote: In post 2887, skitter30 wrote:my strong towns are mena and ss
i'm still weakly townreding infinity
everyone else is in my pool on some level, esp. if dunn is town
Well she was obviously wrong on Lillith. Hmmmmmm
Right, but you know how strong she is
Is it more likely she was wrong on or two things, or on everything?
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:32 am
by Something_Smart
What exactly are you arguing? That you as scum just roll over and die as your team busses you and somehow people don't find that suspicious?
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:33 am
by Menalque
If nobody is around/we can’t get the votes on S_S then I’ll switch back to peta
If we get to when I’m fallo by asleep I’ll self unless we get a confirmation someone will be around to hammer at deadline
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:34 am
by petapan
i'm paying attention i just
ugh
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:34 am
by Menalque
In post 3987, Something_Smart wrote:What exactly are you arguing? That you as scum just roll over and die as your team busses you and somehow people don't find that suspicious?
No i put up a fight obviously, but do I double the number of posts I made in the game up to that point?
And, if I’m being bussed, do I real swing HALF THE TOWN into voting the other way
while my scumbuddies are actively pushing me
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:34 am
by petapan
feels like a very bad decision b/c i dont see a team there but i mihgt do it anyawy
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:35 am
by Menalque
Peta, simple question: would you feel worse losing to scum!me or to scum!smart?
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:35 am
by Infinity 324
I should be around at deadline actually
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:35 am
by Menalque
Infinity, what do /you/ think about S_S?
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:36 am
by Infinity 324
I think he’s town
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:38 am
by petapan
In post 3992, Menalque wrote:Peta, simple question: would you feel worse losing to scum!me or to scum!smart?
i just hate losing period but there was the ugly voice in the back of my head where if its not you its himn and for a lot of the game he has been scummy
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:40 am
by Infinity 324
In post 3592, Something_Smart wrote:
I see why it's plausible as coming from town, of course, but it still seems weird and makes more sense as coming from scum than from town.
I still want to trust Menalque and skitter on you, and I have been historically bad at reading you, but I think peta is town and you and Menalque both townread each other, so either I'm wrong about peta, or one of you is wrong about the other, or you're both scum. That's the conflict that's happening in MY head.
Apart from a general feeling of him having well-motivated questions, this felt particularly genuine to me
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:41 am
by Menalque
What do you think about him not answering my question?
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 11:41 am
by Smoke and Mirrors
In post 3986, Menalque wrote: In post 3984, Smoke and Mirrors wrote: In post 2887, skitter30 wrote:my strong towns are mena and ss
i'm still weakly townreding infinity
everyone else is in my pool on some level, esp. if dunn is town
Well she was obviously wrong on Lillith. Hmmmmmm
Right, but you know how strong she is
Is it more likely she was wrong on or two things, or on everything?
Well as I said, no one so far has made a case on you other than the N1 jk and I’m still waiting but I won’t vote short of anything other than a hard guilty unless it matches up with play. I learned that lesson in the DnD game when I hydra’d with Math.