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Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:35 am
by Double the Trouble
I skimed vaguely while I was waking up but you called for me?

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:37 am
by Double the Trouble
In post 3868, Spiffeh wrote:Wait

What exactly is Bell claiming and what exactly is DEB claiming?
both players are claiming detective.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:37 am
by Polar Bear Express
Super out of it. Just died in a game. I'll catch up overnight as in N2 of the game. If my vote needs to be moved for some reason or another, uh hope gloria comes and reads up ig.

-nornor

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:50 am
by Bell
In post 3968, Spiffeh wrote:
In post 3250, Bell wrote:K, I'm detective.
N1 I investigated Toog who killed no one.
Good job everyone.
Good job. :neutral:
I ISO'd Bell to try to figure out the claim fiasco

I interpreted "who killed no one" as in "wasn't tracked to the kill"

Which was clearly wrong of me

But that's why I thought he was tracker
I detective slipped.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:50 am
by Bell
First aid class done was 6 hours long.
I feel refreshed.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:52 am
by Double the Trouble
Spiffy, I'll get to the point
why are your reads garbage?

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:54 am
by Spiffeh
They’re not

What reads do you think are garbage?

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:56 am
by Spiffeh
I’m also interested in when you decided my reads were garbage because you put a lot of stock in them yesterday

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:57 am
by Double the Trouble
In post 3981, Spiffeh wrote:They’re not

What reads do you think are garbage?
Okay, maybe I skipped to the point a bit too quickly.
Why do you think ur in the vig pool? Try not to give me "I don't know" or "Pooky bad" try to think about it please.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 11:58 am
by Double the Trouble
I'm going to tell you its going to be REALLY hard to have this conversation if you just default on "I don't know" or "Pooky bad"
and tbh I shouldn't even be having this conversation with you.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:03 pm
by Spiffeh
I don’t know
Pooky bad

Probably some combination of Pooky/masons not viewing me as obvious town, they feel that I’m probably a priority choice for FL as scum, and would be a difficult player to get people to lim in the Day phase

I wouldn’t know unfortunately because the reasons have not been presented

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:06 pm
by Double the Trouble
you may not know, but there are reasons for why things happen
I think if Pooky wanted Creature shot he would have said so.
The fact he didn't means he either thinks Creature is town or he's a mason.

What reads do you have if Creature is town?

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:06 pm
by Spiffeh
And that reasoning is understandable if I’m alive like Day 4/5 and have given no day play reasons to be viewed as town

But going into Night 2 I feel that having me as a vig candidate without even an attempt at an explanation is irresponsible

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:13 pm
by Spiffeh
If Creature's town I will reevaluate

I think Creature has a phenomenal shot at flipping scum

If you disagree than you can explain why, but I'm not going to let go of one of the few scum reads I feel decently about on the off chance that they could be a mason (which I doubt btw)

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:20 pm
by Blade Dancer
Official Vote Count 2.11


Polar Bear Express
(1): MURDERCAT
Creature
: (2) Spiffeh, Solstice, Dunnstral, Toogelo
Bell
(7): Ircher, pichu, Ydrasse, mastina, Polar Bear Express, Dr Easy Bake, Double the Trouble
Double the Trouble
(1): Bell
Spiffeh
(1): Creature

Not Voting
(1):
With 14 alive, it takes 8 to execute.

MURDERCAT is VLA until 12/17. MURDERCAT did not specify a time, so I'll use noon PST.


Deadline
: (expired on 2020-12-22 18:21:00)

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Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:23 pm
by Double the Trouble
In post 3988, Spiffeh wrote:If Creature's town I will reevaluate

I think Creature has a phenomenal shot at flipping scum

If you disagree than you can explain why, but I'm not going to let go of one of the few scum reads I feel decently about on the off chance that they could be a mason (which I doubt btw)
i think his posting this phase has been significantly better than d1 that's for sure. No one will talk about it or bat an eye towards it, but I think its kinda townie and Pooky not being interested in it does affect my reads.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:24 pm
by Spiffeh
Alisae town reading me to the point of basing entire reads around what I thought on Day 1 and now completely backtracking without explanation and supporting me as a vig target should be very alarming to everyone itg and blanket town reads on that slot will no longer be tolerated

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:24 pm
by Double the Trouble
oh I townread you because I masonread you LOL

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:26 pm
by Spiffeh
What made you think I was a mason?

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:26 pm
by Double the Trouble
Your response to Pooky's PoE and Pooky's response to you felt like
suuuuuuuuper scripted

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:27 pm
by Spiffeh
Well it wasn't, and I actually struggle to see how you could feel that way about it

I actually debated not posting that because I thought it would make it too obvious that I wasn't a mason lol

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 12:31 pm
by Double the Trouble
Either way it felt like you created that PoE to sort me

but this kind of response just feels like a scripted response to me
In post 1334, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 1331, Spiffeh wrote:I strongly urge you to consider not limiting our options at this time*
that's good point, we just want discussion focused on this poe-4 rn,

so go real in depth on who you want to kill or save from this list,

we have the option to move people in/out based on what happens later - but for now let's get everyone on the same page discussing the same things - need everyone to work together.

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:39 pm
by Double the Trouble
Can we end this show now.
Bell needs to die. Pooky should stamp with seal of approval and go go go.

- Norwee

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:52 pm
by Dunnstral
I'm pretty sure Pichu has been angling to call me scum if Bell flips town

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2020 1:53 pm
by Dunnstral
In post 3905, MURDERCAT wrote:
In post 3884, Double the Trouble wrote:Do you have a single other scumread than Noraa?
There are like 4 scum.
Noraa
1 of Bell/DEB
mastina??
Toog??
Dunn??

Something like that probably for me right now
ah Murder is scum