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[OutWorldER]

fucking how?

[samantha97]

how @ what?

[OutWorldER]

how does me waiting for Ico guarantee a loss as town

[samantha97]

cause that would make him mafia??

[samantha97]

slip? lol

[OutWorldER]

like okay yes if Ico is scum mailman I've lost

if Ico is scum mailman we already lost a long time ago

and also Datisi is dead

why does Ico kill Datisi Samantha

answer the fucking question

[samantha97]

the only answer to your question is the source of your question: the same doubt you're supposedly having now

[OutWorldER]

you know what

VOTE: Samantha

i'm bad at Elo's, which is why I want to make sure but I guess it's better not to overthink shit here

you've been doing this mental gymnastics/avoiding the question shit since the start since you SR'd me and Luca at the same time.

Ico cannot be scum here, it's impossible.

[samantha97]

I'm gonna level with you: I was testing out a nightkill shaping strategy this whole game

sadly it failed with luca but I intended for datisi to live until today, and die by your hand last night

that's why I tried to get in a small argument with iconeum before the day ended to influence your decision

I actually planned on being in the final 3 a long time ago lol

that's why it was so funny to me when your mask slipped in response to me saying the lynch/nks were already decided before today

[OutWorldER]

except scum!worlder doesn't kill Datisi here

ever.

why would I go into Elo with a conftown while also killing the other SR of the other town remaining

Even with the WIFOM element, I get voted out here a majority of the time.

if I was scum the only correct play was an Ico kill.

[samantha97]

because bringing us was the best of both worlds

I already expressed doubts in iconeum being town immediately preceding this day, and he already expressed doubts about me being town

plus the whole datisi angle that you keep pushing which btw makes no sense for me to do either

[samantha97]

either way maybe I'm wrong, who knows I'm not omniscient

if I am you sure aren't playing to salvage the game (as in, you aren't going to read and determine who is what/show no evidence of ever having done that)

[OutWorldER]

like imagine we live in a world where I actually am scum!worlder

I haven't been here a lot of the game. Disengaged due to situating my brother, getting my license, a lot of uprooting in my life.

I make it to Elo and my options are to kill you in which case Ico/Dats roll me immedietly

Kill Ico which leaves you and Datisi which protracts Elo for a long long time

or...kill Datisi and leave my fate in the hands of a player who if I recall correctly has not really been fond of me this game and was best buds with the guy who also didn't like me very much.

you have more reason to kill Datisi here because you can leverage your higher activity against me and you have a fucking talent for twisting anything into an SR.

[samantha97]

datisi heavily townread me, it'd be a needless gamble

you gotta try harder than that

[samantha97]

I suggest using actual posts and events that happened more than 1 day ago to make it seem like you care

[OutWorldER]

why do you expect me to do mental gymnastics to try and find Ico scum?

why do I need to look back at 158 pages to determine that the guy who has a role for which there is a TOWN-ALIGNED ENABLER???

why do I need to look back at 158 pages to determine that it makes zero sense for Ico to kill the guy who would go along with whoever he voted with in Elo in a heartbeat???

[OutWorldER]

Your constantly saying I'm not trying to salvage the game because I'm not looking more than a day ago but literally WHY DO I NEED to go back at all?

[OutWorldER]

your right I don't fucking care because the answer is obvious and the only reason I didn't vote sooner is because I'm bad at Elo and was paranoid.

[samantha97]

you need to give off the impression you aren't informed and have to reach for an answer

I'm trying to help you put up a fight here but you're still choosing the lazy route

[OutWorldER]

like yes I had doubts the only reason they were there is because I was literally actually dropped on my head as a child and refuse to accept obvious answers.

[OutWorldER]

but why do I need to find a different route

you still haven't justified that

why do I need to find a different route.

why do you think that somebody stretching harder than Mr. Fantastic makes for towny play?

and if you can find reasons for scum!Ico then why haven't you said them?

the answer is that your scum trying to make me vote Ico so you can win.

[OutWorldER]

like what fucking evidence could you have to override the NK and Ico's role

[samantha97]

cliffnotes for why he's mafia: his reaction to gg ez, his weird glossing and re-addressing of my posts, his unwillingness to vote both llama and umlaut at the end, and even suggesting we not vote for umlaut at all, the fact that he claimed a cop in a 13 player game when town already has another cop and mafia has 2 goons flipped, his sudden shift in read on me mid-game, his weird read on me late game as if starting from a clean slate and ignoring all my past posts

cliffnotes for why he's town: all the past votes in the game - he voted to lynch both llama and umlaut early on (with real possibility of it happening) and was wagoned by both umlaut and llama, he has actual reads, he asks questions with at least an appearance of actually wanting to know, his cop claim is believable due to him + all the neighbors being a miller with rathe alive (he's basically a counter-miller), plus as I said said from day 1 momrangal andres and iconeum were confirmed town by my l33t skillz

you got duped into bringing him to lylo lol

[OutWorldER]

you need to give off the impression you aren't informed and have to reach for an answer

I'm trying to help you put up a fight here but you're still choosing the lazy route

you got duped into bringing him to lylo lol

these two quotes do not mix

[samantha97]

votes rarely lie, I felt way better about iconeum being town than datisi