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In post 3973, ChaosOmega wrote:And if scum wouldn't bus their partner yesterday, why would they do it Day 3 with the same amount of scum left?

Is this in reference to you voting Titus D3?

In post 3974, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 3970, ChaosOmega wrote:VOTE: SSBM

Lim today should be me or SSBM, Gamma checks the other one tonight, and go from there.

This is a pretty terrible vote. If you are going to make this the choice, you’re going to die.

And if I gave a shit about your opinion, that would mean something to me. I am a prime mislim candidate now, being eliminated before I get to LiLo is not the worst thing in the world.

In post 3975, Dwlee99 wrote:

In post 3973, ChaosOmega wrote:And if scum wouldn't bus their partner yesterday, why would they do it Day 3 with the same amount of scum left?

Is this in reference to you voting Titus D3?

Yes.

In post 3976, ChaosOmega wrote:

In post 3974, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 3970, ChaosOmega wrote:VOTE: SSBM

Lim today should be me or SSBM, Gamma checks the other one tonight, and go from there.

This is a pretty terrible vote. If you are going to make this the choice, you’re going to die.

And if I gave a shit about your opinion, that would mean something to me. I am a prime mislim candidate now, being eliminated before I get to LiLo is not the worst thing in the world.

In post 3975, Dwlee99 wrote:

In post 3973, ChaosOmega wrote:And if scum wouldn't bus their partner yesterday, why would they do it Day 3 with the same amount of scum left?

Is this in reference to you voting Titus D3?

Yes.

You don’t have to give a shit about my opinion. I’m trying to tell you that it’s very possible neither one of you is Scum and you’re focusing on the wrong player.

I’ve been right about Titus for 2 days, and made an argument about their role and how it could easily fit as a Scum role. Kyouko defended me when I could have been executed. That doesn’t make sense coming from Scum.

But if you want to be all abrasive for no good reason well then fuck you and die.

Nero of course deserves credit for that he caught Titus super early. If anything Nero clearly set us on the right path here.

If you're going to be abrasive for no good reason, you could at least vote me.

And there's not a lot of players for me to focus on that make sense here. DotW is conftown, StD is essentially conftown, I find it very unlikely you're scum given you would have both been in Gamma's check pool and didn't NK him, it makes no sense to look at Gamma today since he has a pending investigation, and I don't think VFP is scum at all. That leaves Dwlee, who I can't really get any support on (and also the way they pushed Titus yesterday makes me feel a bit better about them) and ssbm.

In post 3980, ChaosOmega wrote:That leaves Dwlee, who I can't really get any support on

Why do you presume this to be the case? You haven’t even asked anyone what their opinions are on the slot.

In post 3980, ChaosOmega wrote:If you're going to be abrasive for no good reason, you could at least vote me.

Criticizing your vote as terrible is not being abrasive. It’s being truthful. It’s a bad vote. You said you didn’t give a shit about my opinion. That’s personal in a way I wasn’t. So take it down a notch.

I also have been pushing for Titus for a bit, called them Scum repeatedly, built a case against them, and voted them over Town with Scum clearly diminished. But yeah being in the investigative pool also counts I guess.

I agree with your other clears. I also don’t think you box yourself in like this as Scum. Which is why I’m not sure you’re a good vote.

I'm confused why scum killed t3 of all people. Like, even if the PT cop cleared the slot wouldn't killing DotW be better there?

In post 3981, Andresvmb wrote:

In post 3980, ChaosOmega wrote:That leaves Dwlee, who I can't really get any support on

Why do you presume this to be the case? You haven’t even asked anyone what their opinions are on the slot.

I assumed this from pushing Dwlee yesterday and getting no support for it.

Andres why are you back now after basically never posting for a while?

Also just to comment on people scumreading me I feel like my interactions with flipped scum are very indicative of my alignment:
1.) Titus pushed me in the Me/Peta 1v1
2.) Nero caught nom trying to push me for terrible reasons
3.) I took VFP's side in the VFP/Nom 1v1
4.) I pushed through the elimination on Osuka over Anya
5.) While scum doubted Cyrus' claim, I believed it and not only said he was definitely town, suggested policy eliminating Titus to turn Cyrus into a vigilante
6.) Killed Titus yesterday over looking to eliminate Gamma

UNVOTE: ssbm

In post 3985, Dwlee99 wrote:I'm confused why scum killed t3 of all people. Like, even if the PT cop cleared the slot wouldn't killing DotW be better there?

It makes sense if you're the last scum. T3 is essentially confirmed, he would need to be a NK anyway, and DotW gets to stay in, and he said he was interested in pushing me or ssbm on a red Titus flip.

In post 3987, Dwlee99 wrote:Andres why are you back now after basically never posting for a while?

"Andres, stop talking, I want you to be one of my mislims."

T3 was literally doing nothing I wouldn't kill him.

I'm asking because Andres has this sudden burst of energy that feels weird. Like "oh shit I have to play now cause it's just me."

In post 3990, Dwlee99 wrote:T3 was literally doing nothing I wouldn't kill him.

I'm asking because Andres has this sudden burst of energy that feels weird. Like "oh shit I have to play now cause it's just me."

Pfft I’m never Scum and you should know better. There’s no burst of energy. I just think it’s possible that the last Scum is you and I thought I would share that.

Well it's not so good job. I was townreading you end of yesterday and that hasn't changed, it's just that after seeing you hard lurk it's weird.

In post 3985, Dwlee99 wrote:I'm confused why scum killed t3 of all people. Like, even if the PT cop cleared the slot wouldn't killing DotW be better there?

I think them leaving me is literally cause my reads have been garbage and I'm inexperienced for end game. I had a feeling D2 that Titus was just buddying me and DGB but ignored it and that almost caused a lot of mislims

In post 3985, Dwlee99 wrote:I'm confused why scum killed t3 of all people. Like, even if the PT cop cleared the slot wouldn't killing DotW be better there?

Or gamma is scum and this is them trying to show one of Gamma's clears were real. Gamma could still be traitor and STD be main scum but I don't think Gamma as traitor/scumakea sense with Titus scum

Also VLA until tomorrow night

I kinda like the idea of no lim as it takes us back to odds, but it's probably better to do that tomorrow or the next day so Gamma can check in a smaller poe than if we did it today.

I still think no traitors here as it means the pt cop is getting fucked with both by a traitor and by PT-less "masons"

Assuming Gamma is town we have:

3 town
DotW
Gamma
STD
--
And a poe of 5 to lim/investigate
Kyouko
Chaos
Dwlee
Vfp
Andres

Gamma exists so we can force scum to kill by no eliminating tomorrow (if they try to match no elim with no kill, we can repeat once for Gamma investigstion). We have 3 Days to 3-way limlo if we go lim, no lim, lim. Gamma can clear 2 more players in that time, so scum will have to shoot outside of the poe, otherwise the poe comes down too fast for scum to survive final 3.

I'm down to clown with Chaos, and have Gamma check the other. I think Chaos is more likely than VFP or Andres for sure - VFP vs nom is definitely not a partner interaction

VOTE: Chaos

Pedit: hadn't considered traitor!Gamma, but Rathe was town

Also this burst of Andres energy happened with town!andres in 2213 iirc

In post 3997, ssbm_Kyouko wrote:Also this burst of Andres energy happened with town!andres in 2213 iirc

You mean when I had a detailed breakdown of the game and I put forth the Scummiest player in the game and was correct? Yeah, this isn’t that. But still, if nobody wants me to post or cares about my opinion, I can just sheep whoever I think is most competent and that’s it.

Also in this type of situation, whoever has made a lot of mistakes isn’t likely to be Scum in my experience. I firmly believe you need to look for subtler clues.