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In post 3973, Flea The Magician wrote:

In post 3970, Morning Tweet wrote:If Hectic actually gave us the names of the entire scumteam on a silver platter because we ASKED, I will concede you were right. And also that this game was designed terribly

Is it though?
Is it really that badly designed?

You cannot account for human stupidity.
Anyone who has ever been a Games Master, Dungeon Master, Storyteller, Narrator, etc will tell you this is the most important lesson you need to learn.

We had to work for those names tweetie. We had to work out which questions to ask, and even then who to ask about.

That wasn't mafia we were playing, it was a logic game. Which I find fun yes! But it's not a substitute for actual gameplay lul

You can also solve it very very quickly if you know two people who aren't a criminal (which we did). You could solve the whole game in probably two days if you know what to ask. And it wasn't hard.

Now the "Answer so obvious you discount it" is a really funny game mechanic, like in the story u mentioned with the doors and the runes. But I dont think it applies here, I would just think it's stupid

Can we just elim Tanner? jesus.

ok so if tanner flips scum we just never let chara out cool.

I’m starting to doubt my Flea sr since fae actually does seem convinced. I totally don’t understand why nor agree but fae does sound really sincere.

Pooky help.

i mean this is literally the same thing flea did during ss3 which was repeat one thing over and over again. I wouldnt read it one way or the other because im pretty sure town flea could do this too?

im just focussing my energy on the people i can read.

In post 3978, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:ok so if tanner flips scum we just never let chara out cool.

LITERALLY

YES

ALL OF THE ARGUING BETWEEN FLEA AND TANNER IS UNNECESSARY BECAUSE OF THIS SIMPLE FACT

but yes can we hammer test Tanner while im alive or do u guis wanna lim me first

i want you to give my your ydra town case cuz thats what actually matters.

Pooky do you think Ydrasse is capable of faking all the Robert interactions if she's informed of his alignment?

Also I notice she got like, both scum right consistently and from the beginning of the game while shutting down Ircher (and Robert early). Do you think she'd hyperfocus her partners and have such good reads?

ima also read your ydrasse notes now

im not going to listen to flea on tanner but if tanner does somehow flip red im ok defering to flea for the chara read

In post 3983, Morning Tweet wrote:Pooky do you think Ydrasse is capable of faking all the Robert interactions if she's informed of his alignment?

Also I notice she got like, both scum right consistently and from the beginning of the game while shutting down Ircher (and Robert early). Do you think she'd hyperfocus her partners and have such good reads?

ima also read your ydrasse notes now

i havent actually reread day 2/3 yet

day 1 was really long

Tanner stuffed himself which was the funniest thing about it all...


This is still mafia, it's just not traditional mafia.
You cannot account for human stupidity.
You cannot expect even the most competent team to succeed.
We each get 1 question in 24 hours, Yin has 18 posts.
We'd need to be coordinated from the start about what we're asking.

Something I was resisted from the start, even when trying to determine truthfulness.

We're a bunch of randoms trying to work something out.
"Human stupidity"
We're going to argue, bitch and moan about it and disagree.
Add malicious factors deliberately stirring the pot.
Human stupidity becomes human idiocy.

And then there's occams razor.
It's a mafia game, it can't be THAT simple. That's rubbish if it is.
it isn't, it's fucking brilliant and given the games Hectic has come up with this is a damn good cherry for the top of that cake.

Ok, Flea is scum.

In post 3985, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:

In post 3983, Morning Tweet wrote:Pooky do you think Ydrasse is capable of faking all the Robert interactions if she's informed of his alignment?

Also I notice she got like, both scum right consistently and from the beginning of the game while shutting down Ircher (and Robert early). Do you think she'd hyperfocus her partners and have such good reads?

ima also read your ydrasse notes now

i havent actually reread day 2/3 yet

day 1 was really long

Oh

Well Ydrasse stopped defending Robert after he did that kinda bad vote on Ircher

Her interactions with Robert from then on out are a big component of my townread

I think it is a little eerie that she got both scum right and had really solid townreads early. BUT. That doesnt persist all game, and im not sure she'd do that as scum anyway. Why push both partners rather than stick to one solidly

In post 3981, Morning Tweet wrote:

In post 3978, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:ok so if tanner flips scum we just never let chara out cool.

LITERALLY

YES

ALL OF THE ARGUING BETWEEN FLEA AND TANNER IS UNNECESSARY BECAUSE OF THIS SIMPLE FACT

but yes can we hammer test Tanner while im alive or do u guis wanna lim me first

If he flips town, we only need to find one more since you and Pooky are 100% locks, however if we can also townlock Ydrasse, then it won’t matter because if we can townlock one more player, we autowin this.

In post 3986, Flea The Magician wrote:This is still mafia, it's just not traditional mafia.
You cannot account for human stupidity.
You cannot expect even the most competent team to succeed.
We each get 1 question in 24 hours, Yin has 18 posts.
We'd need to be coordinated from the start about what we're asking.

Flea it literally takes about ten questions to get all the criminals if you know what you're doing.

A single person can solve the whole thing on their own. Try thirteen. It was gonna happen

And Yin is still talking to us by the way so there are even more questions allowed

In post 3980, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i mean this is literally the same thing flea did during ss3 which was repeat one thing over and over again. I wouldnt read it one way or the other because im pretty sure town flea could do this too?

im just focussing my energy on the people i can read.

Adding onto this.

Mafia is a game of psychology.
Confidence is powerful.
I'm actually annoyed at how often I'm having to repeat here because I've answered all these things before.

SS3 I genuinely hated because I should have been stumped and allowed to openwolf, instead I had to AtE the fuck through that and it still didn't work.
And I still feel bad for it, because I drained the life out of Pooks and Ydrasse and genuinely expected them to hate me for that.

Student council btw, i wouldn't drop my SR on Purple Heart and kept repeating myself there, I was town.

So you guys prefer Ydra or Tanner then?

but this isn't a puzzle in a tabletop campaign. it's mafia.

In post 3987, clidd wrote:Ok, Flea is scum.

Doesn't matter. This has been established.
Reading me is pointless, because I can win while I'm in the pit.

In post 3995, Flea The Magician wrote:

In post 3987, clidd wrote:Ok, Flea is scum.

Doesn't matter. This has been established.
Reading me is pointless, because I can win while I'm in the pit.

If you're town we're going to lose this because I'm not scum.

tweet first is fine imo. she should give us her ydra town case tho b4 she selfhammers

In post 3990, Morning Tweet wrote:

In post 3986, Flea The Magician wrote:This is still mafia, it's just not traditional mafia.
You cannot account for human stupidity.
You cannot expect even the most competent team to succeed.
We each get 1 question in 24 hours, Yin has 18 posts.
We'd need to be coordinated from the start about what we're asking.

Flea it literally takes about ten questions to get all the criminals if you know what you're doing.

A single person can solve the whole thing on their own. Try thirteen. It was gonna happen

But we didn't. And we stumbled on that by a complete accident by pooky asking about their public masonry.

In post 3996, clidd wrote:

In post 3995, Flea The Magician wrote:

In post 3987, clidd wrote:Ok, Flea is scum.

Doesn't matter. This has been established.
Reading me is pointless, because I can win while I'm in the pit.

If you're town we're going to lose this because I'm not scum.

Never said you were scum Clidd. I know you're town. you appear to be joining me at the bottom of the general consensus list, however.