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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:21 am
by Kaiji
I think it's funny that Prism and Andante probably knew eachother in the past but played ignorant of eachother here. Just a random thought rereading
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:22 am
by Kaiji
In post 2468, Faker wrote:Okay, I'm in gear now.
Would like to hear more from skitter about staying on flow. The Pooky announcement has been replaced so I can talk about it.
Pooky has previously spoken about the integrity of replacing out:
In post 1436, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I have never replaced out in 18 years and it would be highly unfair for the scum team for me to replace out.
One thing I really hate when I play scum is when I maneuver town into losing positions and then someone just presses the eject button to completely change the game state.
it's bullshit and completely unfair for game integrity.
Here, the replaceout stemmed directly from me pushing him. This is the definition of a strategic replacement, I don't think it's in his wheelhouse, and the only way I can think of it is a combination of extreme salt over getting caught and both of his partners encouraging him to take care of himself and leave rather than suffer in a Catch-22. I think he'd just take the L, even if he thought I was stupid and wrong.
yep yep
how 2 know ur on the right track 101
My want to bury pooky slot increases
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:23 am
by catboi
welp just figured out who you are
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:23 am
by Kaiji
My playstyle is unique enough that it isn't hard to figure out if you do know me unless I intentionally limit my posting.
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:24 am
by Alyssa The Lamb
do I care who kaiji's main is or do I just not
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:25 am
by Kaiji
It wouldn't be useful for you.
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:26 am
by Alyssa The Lamb
nice
I'll go back to lurking then
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:27 am
by Mare
UNVOTE:
Will vote whatever wagon whenever unless the malaise around my brain lets up beforehand.
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:29 am
by catboi
In post 2444, Faker wrote: In post 2439, catboi wrote:I would've been fine shrugyeeting pooky rather than waiting for a replacement but nah not following cakez on a vote
Unfortunately the more I think about it the more I am convinced it is a townclaim replacement.
You are missing this context
(I don't actually care about reading into the replace out and never have but arguing that the slot had motive to kill Faker because of his reads is incorrect)
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:32 am
by Kaiji
ok random but i mixed up skitter and NSG and thought i was skitter for a bit LOL
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:33 am
by Kaiji
typing up a nice PoE, mostly just eliminating who i townread. I don't think Ihave a solid "scumread" here -> but I will start with mena slot and go from there.
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:34 am
by Kaiji
aight -
I have a rough PoE coming::
I like:
Datisi, Andante, Flow Trap slot Cakez
I am mostly neutral on: Mare, Skitter, midwaybear
*raises eyebrows* : catboi, something_smart
my veins burn: mena
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:36 am
by catboi
Why are you townreading flow trap's slot and cakez
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:38 am
by Kaiji
Because vibes.
Tell me why I shouldn't instead of discrediting my reads.
The way cakez approached the game comes from a town cakez mindset - where I believe he is evaluating things in the start and just stops playing once there are too many posts.
flow trap i just have a good vibe read on him i have consistency reading him- while i think he has improved at mafia in general, I feel confident binning him as town here and also a good portion of that is a gamestate read where I think his EoD wagon was scum driven and it was TVT.
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:38 am
by Kaiji
or rather - not scum driven but just not a Good Wagon.
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:42 am
by catboi
I am not discrediting your reads, I am asking you about your reasoning. Don't see why you're getting defensive over that.
Who's the scum driving flow trap's wagon? How do you have the context to know this if you've been skimming? A good deal of the votes on them were either flipped town or people you're townreading.
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:43 am
by catboi
my conclusion on flow trap was that they were essentially =rand at the time and I preferred waiting for a replacement
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:44 am
by Kaiji
In post 3990, catboi wrote:I am not discrediting your reads, I am asking you about your reasoning. Don't see why you're getting defensive over that.
Who's the scum driving flow trap's wagon? How do you have the context to know this if you've been skimming? A good deal of the votes on them were either flipped town or people you're townreading.
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:46 am
by Kaiji
It was mainly something prism said about the flow trap wagon that I agreed with wrt how the FT wagon was just Bad and I agreed.
I personally have been able to pinpoint scummy things from flow when he did flip scum and when he was town it was just a null smorgasbord of posts when trying to read conventionally.
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:46 am
by catboi
Okay but if it's just "a bad wagon" what gives you the confidence off the gamestate it was TVT, what's pointing you toward this conclusion
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:49 am
by Kaiji
atm I don't trust you so I don't feel comfortable answering questions when I'm not as informed - sorry.
It feels like you're digging to find stuff to use against me rather than solve anything.
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:50 am
by Kaiji
i was mainly sheeping other people's reads who i trusted when reading thru like Prism's who is confirmed town
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:52 am
by catboi
In post 3995, Kaiji wrote:atm I don't trust you so I don't feel comfortable answering questions when I'm not as informed - sorry.
It feels like you're digging to find stuff to use against me rather than solve anything.
I'm trying to figure out whether or not you're bullshitting
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:52 am
by Kaiji
skimming your iso shows a linked thought progression regarding this point though - so one of my nulls is now likely scum and I'm just being paranoid.
Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:53 am
by Kaiji
Oh I'm definitely bluffing my reads to be more potent than they are to get people to sheep me but by no means are they not genuine lol