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Baby Spice wrote:I think Andy could be scummy for calling for the quick lynch for mana, but then as a scum move it's a bit of a "look at me" move too.

HE'S SAYING THAT IT WOULDN'T WORK AS A SCUM MOVE BECAUSE IT'S TOO MUCH OF A "LOOK AT ME" MOVE.

Yes.

Nacho. You don't understand my concern.

Then explain it to me.

Nachomamma8 wrote:Yes.

If this is in response to me...choo crazy.

Andrius wrote:singersigner, i believe this should suffice for now. More when its not 1am.

Nacho. See above.

Why? If someone I think is town is lynching someone I think is scum with me, it's okay if we disagree on reasons. The important part is getting scum lynched, so it's okay to leave people in their own delusions a while if it advances THE ULTIMATE GOAL.

- She's not playing to how I think town Singer plays and when coupled with her avoidance andf poor answrr to my question I'm pretty confident that she's scum.

Nachomamma8 wrote:Why? If someone I think is town is lynching someone I think is scum with me, it's okay if we disagree on reasons. The important part is getting scum lynched, so it's okay to leave people in their own delusions a while if it advances THE ULTIMATE GOAL.

Yes, yes, the ultimate goal. But what if that person WEREN'T TOWN? The only way you could actually know who's town is if you're scum (derp). It's very anti-town to let someone you believe is using a faulty case push that case on someone else, however much you agree that someone else should be lynched.

Andy, mucho <3, but I don't think Gud's vote on Jack was uncalled for, do you?

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Empking wrote:

FoS: Singer

- She's not playing to how I think town Singer plays and when coupled with her avoidance andf poor answrr to my question I'm pretty confident that she's scum.

How do you think I play town? Like crap? Cuz yeah, that's been my meta so far, lol. If that's you're way of saying I'm playing better then I'll take it as a compliment.

What made my answer so poor? You did say you'd tell me what you were looking for. Or did you forget?
(by the way, if I thought your question was invalid and responded with a counter-question to get more answers as opposed to seemingly incriminating myself blindly, that's not avoiding it...silly Empking...)

singersigner wrote:PREVIEW EDIT:

Empking wrote:

FoS: Singer

- She's not playing to how I think town Singer plays and when coupled with her avoidance andf poor answrr to my question I'm pretty confident that she's scum.

How do you think I play town? Like crap?

Yeah, pretty much.

What made my answer so poor?

It was incredibly uncomitted.

You did say you'd tell me what you were looking for. Or did you forget?

Your play in this game (I feel) is miles ahead of how I'm used to town Singer playing. Now I've you've improved in which case I'd expect you to be aware of such a massive jump your scum play is different from your town play, a fact that you'd not have enough self-awareness to notice.

@Andrius: What scum fencesits on their read on a player declared town by everyone else? She wasn't trying to throw suspicion on you, or the fencesitting would look more like: "Don't you think that Andy could be scum who just wanted more mana? Probably not though."

Empking wrote:Your play in this game (I feel) is miles ahead of how I'm used to town Singer playing. Now I've you've improved in which case I'd expect you to be aware of such a massive jump

or

your scum play is different from your town play, a fact that you'd not have enough self-awareness to notice.

That's actually a really big compliment, I think. I was hoping I had gotten better, and I told Andrius I'd play this game to show him that I don't suck that much anymore. But I mean, who's gunna say "oh yeah, I'm loads better" just to have someone else say "nah you're crap"...hence the seemingly incriminating nature of the question.

Do you really think that people don't realize the difference between their scum play and town play? I can only see the difference between my crap play and my better play. And I've had games to prove each.

Empking wrote:

RayFrost at 10:15 PM, forum time wrote: Hi guys, I disapprove of quick lynching. The faith given to seraphs is great and all, but they won't be able to use their freaking powers if we lynch before they send in a PM, just like all the other players that aren't on during this that have powers. This isn't a good strategy since it's essentially random lynching and putting all the faith in the seraphs (hehehehe, puntastic).

I promote a less random, willy nilly approach. Like actually playing mafia. Who knows, it might be a good idea.

RayFrost at 10:20 PM, forum time wrote: Post for Andrius that I was typing before equi posted:

Seriously guys, the idea of quick lynching to hope for getting scum is stupid. I disapprove heavily. Saying "let's let the seraphs do all the work and not do anything but randomly lynch peoples and hope we get lucky" is the pinnacle of pro-scum play, in my opinion.

Regardless of the lack of PRs or such, continuing this path is beyond the edge of foolishness. I can (if stretching myself) understand D1, but the fact you are trying to extend this to D2 is bad (and you DO NOT KNOW if there are other PRs, IIRC - the mod hasn't confirmed either way).

To say that I've been pushing it continually (when I did so ONCE) is misrepresentation of the situation.

Third quote still applies. Two different posts in the same stream != pushing it multiple times. Kthxbai

I do think that the parts that differ between a player's scum meta versus town meta is something unknown to that player (otherwise they'd change it, surely.)

Andy, can you back up:

I told Andrius I'd play this game to show him that I don't suck that much anymore.

Edit; RayFrost, how many "streams" have you posted in? When did that stream end?

End of first stream of posts

End second

End and start of third

Fourth

Fifth

Begin/end sixth

This post = currently last in seventh

I'm heading out the door now, but: yes, Empking, I can backup that statement.

Hint: if posts are within less than 10 minutes of each other, then you might possibly consider them being part of a stream of posts. Just a thought.

Hint #2: If I say "end of this stream / going to sleep / see yah for now" after posting a lot, there just might be a somewhat large chance of that being the end of a stream of posts

Just a thought.

Nacho: Why gud scum? You are telling us to tell you why gud is scum, but the case(s) have already been laid out. How about countering them if you disagree rather than telling us to just restate them?

I've already agreed with Andy that Guderian is scum. And it's far more efficent to ask my strongest townread to tell me why he thinks Guderian is scum then go through and counter everyone's cases on him.

Oh, must've missed that. I blame just waking up.

I'm going to assume from your vote on kitoari that you think he's scummier than gud. Do you feel that either of them going away from the thread is scummy? (I personally do not, but they have enough scummy behavior elsewhere for that to be moot, imo)

For empking: End of stream seven

This post is the end of stream eight. I shall be going somewhere that will keep me there until 6 PM, it is currently 10 AM.

Toodles, strudels, and oodles.

No.

We interrupt this thread with more Fire Emblem

Kitoari (L-7) ~ Equinox, Jack, Nachomamma8
Jack (L-8) ~ Guderian, Magua
mothrax (L-8) ~ Baby Spice, RayFrost


AGar, AlmasterGM, Fate, Furcolow, Katsuki, singersigner

Vi wrote:AGar 2 | AGM 0 | Andrius 0 | BS 0 | Emp 0 | Equi 0 | Fate 0 | Furc 2 | Gud 1 | inHim 0 | Jack 0 | Kat 0 | Kito 1 | Magua 0 | moth 0 | Nacho 0 | Ray 0 | sinsig 0 | Vas 0

Silly mods with their hidden text. Looks like it tracks the number of days since the last post.

Hallo. Would like to talk to you.

And although I was joking (mostly) when I said that Agar drew scum again in this game, I'm becoming more serious about that. He's active on site in other games, which means he's actively avoiding this one.


VOTE: Agar