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so yeah

I guess a miller lynch is better than a VT lynch ...

HOW CAN YOU BE TOWN

HOW

THERE'S YOU CAN BE TOWN, IT DEFIES ALL LOGIC I HOLD DEAR

YOU HAVE LITERALLY MADE CASE ON ME, AND IF YOU WERE TOWN WHO ACTUALLY THOUGHT I WAS SCUM, YOU WOULD BE MAKING A CASE ON ME

WHY

WHY HAVE YOU MADE NO CASE ON ME

JUST WHY

because I thought it was obvious

or it will be after the lock

oh, and you reaction goes under the same category of the 'scum thanking the doc' scumtell

you've overreacted to a town flip by quite a bit here

EOEJG

THAT'S NOT EVEN YOUR TOWN META

THAT'S WHY I WANTED YOUR TOWN GAMES TO SEE IF YOU ALWAYS OMGUS AS TOWN

BUT YOU DON'T

SO WHY

WHY

WHY

uh, how about the last game you tunnelled on me where I was town

anyways, I provided meta in my good town games

you should have asked for my worst town games

and hardly omgus since I voted you first

if anything, you omgus'd me

The current line of conversation is not worth my time. I feel that we were right to deprive Twistedspoon, Esq. of the right to be here.

SO IF YOU'RE AWARE THAT YOU ONLY OMGUS IN YOUR POOR TOWN GAMES

WHY THE FUCK DO YOU DO IT

IT MAKES NO SENSE


P-Edit: BUT YOUR VOTE WAS RANDOM.

You also unvoted, and then voted me later non-randomly. SO YES, YOU DID OMGUS .


P-Edit2: StrangerCoug, you think he's scum playing mind-games? Or that he'd be a liability as town?

I think he is flailing, trying in vain to regain his welcome. This is not a well-doer's response to being thrown out of the lodge. I expect to be thrown out myself if I proposed to evict someone for being a mere "liability as town".

Hello, my friends! If the above post was indeed not a lynch, then whoever i am voting for.

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Dastardly deeds, indeed. I will make a review of Sirs Coug and Longing for possible information to be gleaned from their death.

These are very odd deaths. I had both as slight scum-reads.

I do not see any obvious crumbs from StrangerCoug. It's possible he protected me from a NK, as he does mention me as a town-read (of sorts), but mentions nobody else.

I am eager to hear from replacements (and, indeed, thank you for joining us here).

So I had a catchup post, but, when I pressed submit, the thread was locked and I lost it all. Instead, I'm going to give a list.


Feysal: He brings up a lot of good points, its that simple. Its unfortunate his stance on TS was ignored.

imaginality:Sure, he went after me. But his willingness to try other cases and search other venues gave me many plus points. He comes off as a very interrogation-oriented player, and I like it. 1 negative: his similar "this wearies me" thing he did when choosing to vote TS


Reya Cookiebringer --lolwho?

DemonHybrid --not much to say here. maybe i have to relook at the slot, but I have nothing

kpaca*--I liked him, but he hasn't said nearly enough. Leaning town.

vezokpiraka*--Nothing wrong with his slot at the moment, but nothing good enough has been said to put him on town-reads, either.


Sir Hoppster--I am pretty much shocked by his stance on TS. I cannot mention any games in particular, but I can mention the fact that you hydra together. I recognize TS as being a very whimsy player, one who comes of as scummy because of his apparent love for WIFOM. Also, your declaration that he ABSOLUTELY CAN'T BE SCUM. Does TS ordinarily make cases? nope. I have played a game with just Hoppster as well, and got strong town vibes when compared to this game.

inHimshallibe*--very wishy-washy. He likes Hoppster and he likes TS, but at the end of the day seems so sure of himself when he tells TS "Its time for you to leave." He spent significant time on the discussion, and yet his votes come from posts that seem...detached--manufactured, if you will

lord_hur **--My vote for the lurker-scum of the group. He only voiced suspicions, he didn't push anything. All his posts came off as "well, I had to say something!" Tunneled Apokalyptica, placed TS as a null read.

He strikes me as the type to lead a scum team, and the way he danced everyone around and into a TS lynch makes me sure of this.

Hello, I am most delighted to be in the presence of such refined gentlemen, although it is sad that my joy is marred by such a tragedy. Obituaries have never been my forte, but it certainly grieves me to see three esteemable persons no longer breathing. Lest we diligently find the culprits, more are certain to be added to this list.

My associate, Caboose, had urgent affairs to attend to, and I will effectively replace him from now on. Surely is it unnecessary to affirm that I will answer for all of his participation so far in this investigation.

Without further postponement, let me start with a small case about the one person I suspect most at the moment : Sir Hoppster.

1. Following my experience, rapscallions often comment in the post immediately following a kill, because they had a hand in the act and thus have this problematic of the reason for killing in mind. Which Sir Hoppster did.
2. Furthermore, he did not mention the one thing most peculiar about the night : that there were two murders, and not one. This strikes me as quite unfair unless special mechanics are at work, but of course, the actual killers should not be surprised, and indeed would be less likely to mention it. Also about this mass murder, the modus operandi of tonight's deaths is very different from the first one. I think this might be an important clue to guess their abilities.
3. During his most expansive reaction to the late Twistedspoon, Esq.'s death, the only argument he brings forth is OMGUS voting (thus it must be the most important for him), yet I do not find this reason in his message #51, which he claimed regrouped his reasons for voting him.
4. I do not agree with these reasons : while they are indicative of bad play, I do not think these mistakes are more likely to be made by scum than by town.
5. He seemed quite fast in taking Twistedspoon, Esq.'s claim as a miller for acurate. As for me, someone who lied in the past (he did claim a role he has not) I would not have believed him to be gentlemen-aligned right away (even in twilight). Of course, if he knew Twistedspoon, Esq. to be gentlemen-aligned, this reaction would make sense.

And since this is my best lead as of now, I will :

VOTE: Sir Hoppster

Of course, alleviating these concerns might lead me to rescind my vote.

With regard to your point 1, lord_hur, do you consider Sir Hoppster's commenting on the deaths to be as suspicious, when following inHimishallbe's comment, as it might be in isolation? I feel if there is a point to be made here, it is more fairly made against inHimshallibe.

imaginality wrote:With regard to your point 1, lord_hur, do you consider Sir Hoppster's commenting on the deaths to be as suspicious, when following inHimishallbe's comment, as it might be in isolation? I feel if there is a point to be made here, it is more fairly made against inHimshallibe.

Your observation makes me quizzically raise my brow. Good thing it was my left eye, or my monocle would have fallen. The rather respectable inHimshallibe did not comment on the killers' motivation in tonight's massacre, but promised to scrutinize yesterday's events surrounding the two victims (or so I understood), which is a practice which is in my opinion very useful to real gentlemen. But to be thorough, this comment does not stand well with me for another reason : rogues always want to appear at work for the greater good, and thus are more likely to offer promises of activity. While of course, proper gentlemen serenely present their analysis when it is done.

If I may speak a bit more plainly.

Sir Toast, my patience with Twistedspoon, Esq. had worn to the point of feeling I could be wrong on my initial read and that the Day was best ended with his expulsion. I'm sorry you feel I was lukewarm about the situation. I disagree on your claims of my "wishy-washy" manners. Could you understand how my zeal may wane as a person I have defended commits atrocity after pitfall? I think the true devils in disguise would be those joining the Twistedspoon, Esq. ballot after the hissing between he and Sir Hoppster.

And of course I spent significant time on the discussion; the feuding of Sir Hoppster and the late Twistedspoon, Esq. kept rearing its ugly countenance again and again. My votes came away from those two because I still feel both of them grasped at every loose straw in the barn (a town tell in my books) to keep the argument going for the other's eviction, and I said as such.

Lord Hur, first let me say I am humbled to be in the presence of my lordship. Secondly, I'm quite curious you would vote for Sir Hoppster, though it may benefit us, as Sir Imaginality's words are strange to me.

Sir Imaginality, I too at first felt Lord Hur was attempting to establish some inequality between myself and Sir Hoppster, but this was just one point of many he uses in his argument to cast a ballot. What do you personally feel about the point that Lord Hur raised in his first reason? What of the other reasons that Lord Hur gives to vote for Sir Hoppster?

I think that for too long villainy has been allowed to kill with impunity. I dare not say that a whole case be built upon the words of the dead, rest them, but if there is evidence compelling enough among Sirs Coug or Longing pointing to a certain individual, it should not be missed.

And, Lord Hur, let me now present to you all what I have found.

For Sir Coug, his suspicion of Sir V. Piraka was only masked by his want to see Twistedspoon, Esq. shot. I do not see what Sir Hoppster references as a sign to Sir Coug's protection of him. I only have a guess that Sir Coug was killed directly, and not via proxy (through his protection of another). That is only my speculation.

Sir Longing pushed hard for the policy lynch of Sir V. Piraka, and provided little content otherwise pertinent to Today's discussion.

That both would target attackers of Sir V. Piraka both raise and lower my suspicion of him. It could be a setup from one kill, but it could be genuine preservation tactics from the other kill.

All in all, I only slightly turn my gaze to Sir V. Piraka and not fully. I would enjoy that he spend more time and effort with us Today.

I remember someone thinking Longing was scum because he was suspecting me. Could that be the vig shot?

I mean I don't think the scum got two kills.

I tend to think "Murdered Most Foully" would not be the tag attributed to the kill of a vigilante.