Mafiascum.net

Checking in. Anything to add? Nope.

Not much specific to say, so I think I will state my reads:

Town: Altylisian, curiouskarmadog, Ellibereth, elvis_knits, Fate, Flavour analysis, ZeL1nK
Scum: Amrum, Silavor, earworm, HezLucky, evilpacman18

I don't really have a read, or a null read on other players

With his answers to my questions, I find ZeL1nK more probably town.

Do you mind giving a line or two explaining each?

jil are you reading thread?

I do believe so.

Well, that's good to know. Just make sure you don't stop believing it.

In other news, posts like #400 are why Cirno is the strongest town read I have. Not really, but I felt like making a pun.

jilynne1991 wrote:I do believe so.

good

Ok, an explanation please?

Got distracted. Will read more tomorrow. Promise. Goodnight.

until tajo can rally the troops around a hezlucky lynch.

Die scum Die.

ZeL1nK wrote:Amrun has been looking more town to me in her recent posts. I've never played with Amrun-scum, but her reads/reasoning and the other things she's been saying lately make me think this is Amrun-town.

DK is DK. Honestly, he's a special case, and has special town tells for me. Aggression against aggressors (OMGUS and anger) is a town tell for DK - he legitimately thinks this is scum hunting, no joke. Although, this is a really weak town read for me right now. He's not playing obv-town like I've seen him be before, but then again, he's not getting as much pressure as he usually does (I think he gets lynched D1 like half the games he's in...)

Cirno is town for me based on gut.

Less than half.

I've made it to the last game in two completed games.

Died D1 in two of them.

The rest I made it passed Day 1.

I am in 6 ongoing games, as of now.

Cirno wrote:Checking in. Anything to add? Nope.

TOP THREE SCUMREADS IN FOLLOWING POST, NAO

vezokpiraka wrote:

unvote
vote jil

Die scum Die.

lets see your reasoning here

zelink wrote:Amrun has been looking more town to me in her recent posts. I've never played with Amrun-scum, but her reads/reasoning and the other things she's been saying lately make me think this is Amrun-town.

can you be more concise with what reads and reasoning do you agree with?

zelink wrote:DK is DK. Honestly, he's a special case, and has special town tells for me. Aggression against aggressors (OMGUS and anger) is a town tell for DK - he legitimately thinks this is scum hunting, no joke

i assume you have played with him before, can you point out where he has showed this behavior?

zelink wrote:Cirno is town for me based on gut.

this is not a valid answer for page 16, try harder.

Ellibereth wrote:

jilynne1991 wrote:I do believe so.

good

unvote, vote jil

ACTUALLY YES!



[REDACTED] and [REDACTED] are so much different than here.

No tons of questioning or even vocal cautiousness. No "IDK GUYS" or such.

Yes, this is a good wagon.

jilynne1991 wrote:LOL...I was just going to vote myself...until I realized I was myself.

i dont see scum doing thuis tbh

tajo wrote:can you be more concise with what reads and reasoning do you agree with?

Amrun's ISO#13 (mostly the last part) and ISO#15 in particular.

Why is she shady for you? All I see is "she attacked easy target FA".

tajo wrote:i assume you have played with him before, can you point out where he has showed this behavior?

Any game he's town, which is most of his games so far. I've only seen him flip scum once, and there was none of the OMGUS-aggression that he displays when he's town.

Just off the top of my head, Open302 which recently finished had him telling everyone that if they thought he was scum, they were scum, because he was a VT. It's hilarious... but sad at the same time.

tajo wrote:this is not a valid answer for page 16, try harder.

Sure it is. I don't particularly care whether you agree with me on this.

Cirno wrote:Checking in. Anything to add? Nope.

Just when I was starting to like you.

elvis_knits wrote:

Cirno wrote:Checking in. Anything to add? Nope.

Just when I was starting to like you.

why did you like him before?

tajo, re:cirno - Irreverent attitude, he made a few sort of good remarks yesterday

First I thought he was scummy, then I thought maybe I was wrong about him, now I'm back to leaning scummy on him. He has shown he's not VI, so I expect more at this point from him. And instead I got less.

jil needs to post reads and participate in this game.

And I agree that failure to participate helpfully is scummy.

However, I think she's slow lane, so I am willing to give her a little bit of a chance here and then decide on her based on what she says when we force her to try harder.

She seems a bit like an easy mark to me.

So at this point, I have decided that we need a silavor wagon.

I have thought about the 5-scum debacle, and I do not like it. I do not like that he
1)blew pere's post completely out of proportion as if he thought that pere made a slip.
2)got angry when questioned about it, saying I was twisting his words and he never thought it was a slip
3)when questioned further he hedges and admits he was WONDERING whether it was a slip. So basically I was right that was where he was going with the 5-scum thing, so I wasn't twisting his words.

And now he piles onto the earworm wagon with no original thought or reasoning.

silavor wrote:Hmm. Fine.

unvote

vote: earworm

The cases against earworm make the most sense to me right now. Having a vote on Ze's not doing anything productive anymore.

This is an opportunistic FAILVOTE if I ever saw one.

None of his posts ever really talk about earworm, or say why he might be suspicious of earworm, or what part of the case on earworm he agrees with. This is a crapvote. This is Silavor hoping earworm wagon takes off instead of his.

Nice try!

elvis_knits wrote:So at this point, I have decided that we need a silavor wagon.

For anyone who missed this, consider it your invitation to join the party.

Ok. tajo's point is noted, though not 100% agreed upon.

I disagree that silavor never talking about earworm is really much of anything to base a vote upon. I do think there is something worth questioning.

@silavor: What makes your Ze vote unproductive? What have you done lately (before the unvote) to try and make it productive? If nothing, why not?

@Tajo-why exactly do you find those statements by Hez scummy? You say you don't like them, but some clarification would be nice.

@ZeL1nk-Is there a particular post or two that by Cirno that give you town vibes? I know you said gut, but there's usually something that makes that gut read churn, even if it's hard to explain.

Re: Jil wagon- She is playing completely different here. It's really strange. There's been no questions, no reads (even half-assed ones), and a general lack of trying. Gonna keep tabs on her, but not jumping on this wagon yet.