null read can go either way. It still doesn't make me a def. town or def. scum read.
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:48 pm
by Thomith
but why did you assume it was a flat out scum read?
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:49 pm
by Om of the Nom
Because it didn't sound like something he'd say if I were a town read. Plus I completely forgot about null reads existing :V
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:55 pm
by Thomith
that makes sense... owait >.>.
You "forgot" null reads existed, how convenient for you...
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:00 pm
by Om of the Nom
It's not my fault my memory is bad.
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:01 pm
by Om of the Nom
You're just biased and are twisting everything I do to make it look scummy.
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:04 pm
by Thomith
ummm.... no.
you assumed he was calling you scum even when he wasn't, that seems like paranoid play to me, now it could be paranoid town, but the way you have attacked me for bringing it up makes me think it is paranoid scum.
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:07 pm
by Om of the Nom
How would I know whether or not he was actually calling me scum in the first place?
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:26 pm
by Thomith
ask him what he means or wait to see if he brings it up again? not "OMG IM NOT SCUM"
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:28 pm
by Om of the Nom
But it wasn't "OMG IM NOT SCUM," it was "So wait, does that mean you think I am scum?"
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:31 pm
by Thomith
if you were town why would you have cared though, towns main objective is to find scum, not to look town.
Also "does it make me scum" is the towny looking way of saying "OMG IM NOT SCUM"
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:41 pm
by Elmo TeH AzN
So what questions do you have?
Really Om your flailing over nothing right now.
And I'm still up usally till 7 am est or so
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:17 pm
by Om of the Nom
@Thomith: I'm trying to get clear opinions out of him.
@Elmo: You already answered my question.
Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:23 pm
by Thomith
you wanted a solid opinion... it just looked like you freaked out to me but...
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:11 am
by Slandaar
Chrimi is definitely scum here hes misrepping deliberately.
OK
I am the seer
Om is very bad, but hes town probably. Thomith is town. Kondi is town. Asher is probably town. thats 5/7 town. Lynching scum shouldnt be too hard. Lynching dr or Chrimi is definitely the best bet.
Never seen Elmo post so much, not sure what that means. Maybe town.
Dont vote any of my townreads meaning the only wagon available is Chrimi or start your own.
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:23 am
by Thomith
I'll need alot of convincing for you to convince me om is town.
Also can we unvote now then, we really shouldnt lynch a claimed seer day 1.
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:10 am
by Om of the Nom
UNVOTE:
I still think you could be scum, but I believe the claim.
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:11 am
by Thomith
that makes sense.
"i still think you could be scum, but i believe your
↑Thomith wrote:asher, when you talk about kass in the spoiler tag you say "hello wolfie wolfie" infering her being a werewolf, when we have two scumgroups in the game, what made you assume werewolf?
Its obvious. Hes mafia.
I seriously LOL'd. I hope you're being facetious.
↑Thomith wrote:I'll need alot of convincing for you to convince me om is town.
Also can we unvote now then, we really shouldnt lynch a claimed seer day 1.
I agree that OM has a huge uphill battle to convince me that he's anything other than town. However, I am surprised that you are so willing to buy Sland's roleclaim. I give two reasons, but first I'll start with the post where he claimed:
↑Slandaar wrote:Chrimi is definitely scum here hes misrepping deliberately.
OK
I am the seer
Om is very bad, but hes
town probably
. Thomith is
town
. Kondi is
town
. Asher is probably
town
. thats 5/7 town. Lynching scum shouldnt be too hard. Lynching dr or Chrimi is definitely the best bet.
Never seen Elmo post so much, not sure what that means. Maybe town.
Dont vote any of my townreads
meaning the only wagon available is Chrimi or start your own.
1) Look at the setup. The ONLY town power role is seer. It is highly valuable to the town, but easily targetable by the scum as well because there are no town protective roles. A seer claiming as seer is asking to get night killed -- which can be a smart play when he can divulge data to trade his death for the death of other scum. However, a seer claiming as such on day 1 has no data to give to the town, and is essentially throwing away the town's only power role without getting any info on the other players.
From the posts I have seen by sland, he's not that stupid if he were, in fact, the seer.
2) This is a player who has criticized people for giving out their "town reads" as essentially making them meaningless. I'll have to find the post by him again at some point that essentially says "vote based on your town reads, don't share them to the town it's pointless." Yet at the drop of the hat when he is at L-1 what does he do? He drops a bunch of names as his town reads, tries to direct the town how to vote, and then tries to throw mud and say "we should target these people and not my town reads."
Very inconsistent. To be honest, it looks like desperation to me.
I am willing to switch my vote to hammer Sland. Consider this intent to hammer, but I guess it is prudent to hear what a few other town members say first regarding Sland's claim.
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:13 am
by asher1611
↑Om of the Nom wrote:UNVOTE:
I still think you could be scum, but I believe the claim.
looks like my post came in too slow.
OM you're scum or a fool...or both.
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:20 am
by Thomith
If you have a seer claim day 1 then you don't lynch it, obviously this doesn't clear slandaar, but with 2 scum reads of mine (1 now i guess but still) i was wary of the wagon to begin with.
If we lynch slandaar and he does flip seer then effectively we are getting rid of the only town role that can catch them (easily?) and giving them a free shot.
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:40 am
by Ravel
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:18 am
by Om of the Nom
↑Thomith wrote:If you have a seer claim day 1 then you don't lynch it, obviously this doesn't clear slandaar.
This was exactly what I meant, why the fuck are you guys calling me an idiot?
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:25 am
by Ravel
Prodding BagSquad
Kondi has 24 hours to post
LBJ has 12 hours to post
Seriously guys, with deadline looming replacements are not getting easier to find.
Posted: Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:51 am
by Thomith
nope om, you said you believed slandaar but still suspect him.