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Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:23 am
by Amrun
In post 67, Saint wrote:oh, yeah, i should provide my alt
my alt is furcolow
I am on page 3, and furc is town as fuck. Hi furc!!!
Mhork's attack on him is slightly scummy. Mhork, have you ever played with furc?
(Forgive my small but frequent posts as I read -- phone is only option right now.)
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:28 am
by DeasVail
That was as an easier target than me, because that's what Jake was referring to him as.
It's part of my problem with Jake. He's using the fact that I'm not the easiest target as some sort of self-defence, when I don't think he'd always go for the easiest target as scum.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 11:42 am
by Amrun
In post 105, TMTOLBTWNTOF wrote: In post 84, DeasVail wrote:Mhork, going on the offense is fine. I just find it hard to believe that you find so many things about Saint's post scummy.
TMT, what do you think of Saint?
IDK, can someone detail the flailing he's doing?
In post 95, fuzzybutternut wrote: In post 91, Saint wrote:
this is a very weird post. are you referring to Ghostlin?
Saint..this is a quote from the movie. Neville gets the 10 points that wins gryffindor the House Cup.
I read this book as a grade school student and instantly hated Dumbledore for this move. What a pathetic, manipulative and childish act for someone so wise. But then again, the students are just pawns in his greater game of nurturing Harry, isn't it? And if Gryffindor didn't win the House Cup every year, that wouldn't work, WOULDN'T IT?
fuzzybutternut wrote:Oh god..Nuzlocke. That game.
Mhork, why you freak out so bad?
TMTQRLZUQUOEPDH: Why is Bro your strongest town read?
Assuming this is me, mainly because of vibes and strong early game. Bro isn't that strong anymore.
Also, I really think Saint is town
I HATE this post. It's terrible. Asking others to categorize another player's flailing, fluff, and backing down from a question by simply downgrading a read.
In post 123, Lord Mhork wrote:They're scum tells in this instance because Saint is using them in lieu of an actual defense. He's just trying to win town support against me.
By the way. Did anyone have issues with Saint just making up a fake town read on ArcAngel using a DeasVail quote? Or is it just me?
This and every other post by Mhork on this page is terrible as well.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:07 pm
by ArcAngel9
In post 353, penguin_alien wrote:ArcAngel9, why aren't you posting here? This seems like a game you'd be all over if you're tow
I have been sick and away site wide..
are you scum?
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 12:39 pm
by Amrun
I forgot to say the reason why mhork's were terrible: saying something is a scum tell rather than scummy, then asking for confirmation.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:20 pm
by Jake from State Farm
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:36 pm
by Amrun
On page 7 and its fucking troll as hell.
Dv's explanation for post 43 is so spot on and exactly what I was thinking upon reading those posts. He's easily my strongest town read. Jake's entrance is bad.
Saint still extremely town.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:19 pm
by Amrun
Omg guys!! I caught up on my phone and I am proud. Didn't post as much as I would have from computer, but I'm a frequent poster in general so you'll just have to get over it.
CDB, I asked you a question and you didn't answer it. IS THE SHEET STILL ON YOUR HEAD?!
Overall impressions:
Ghostlin town, Saint town, DV town, CDB town, Jake likely town, fuzzy likely town.
I keep forgetting that ArcAngel is in the game. This is ???
Mhork is fairly overwhelmingly scummy.
P_A posts a lot, and is logical, but still manages to say very little. This is scummy.
Broseidon is meh. I keep flip flipping but my read is never very strong in either direction. Right now I lean town.
RachMarie has shared so few reads that it's alarming. Scummy.
If I forgot anyone, you're forgettable and that's bad.
Fairly good amount of town reads. Feeling good about this game.
VOTE: Lord Mhork
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:21 pm
by Amrun
Oh, I forgot letters. He's scummy.
Letters, what is your previous mafia experience?
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:54 pm
by TMTOLBTWNTOF
ONly a little bit of EM
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:59 pm
by Amrun
No newbie game here, even?
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:01 pm
by TMTOLBTWNTOF
I've completed 2.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:02 pm
by Amrun
Has either of them been scum games? Either way, can you link them both, please
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:03 pm
by TMTOLBTWNTOF
In post 402, Amrun wrote:
I HATE this post. It's terrible. Asking others to categorize another player's flailing, fluff, and backing down from a question by simply downgrading a read.
I didn't downgrade the read for the purpose of backing down from a question. I downgraded the read before I answered the question.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=28498 - Scum Game
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=28480 - This one is still ongoing but I was lynched
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:06 pm
by Amrun
But you never answered the question. Even if you had legitimately downgraded the read, you could have answered what made it strong, and then what made it wane.
Fyi, if it's still going on it's not complete and you shouldn't reference it. But thanks.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:10 pm
by Amrun
I find letters' meta inconclusive. He has been generally less decisive this game than previously .
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:47 pm
by Jake from State Farm
despite all of his bad play, my gut says mhork is town. could be wrong but I'm starting to trust it more now.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:59 pm
by Lord Mhork
I'm not scum >.<
Blasted replacements.... Catching up
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:08 pm
by fuzzybutternut
Said every scum replacement, ever.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:16 pm
by Jake from State Farm
except he isn't a replacement lol
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:19 pm
by Lord Mhork
In post 352, ChannelDelibird wrote:Mhork, I've already mentioned part of why I think Saint is town in the post you quoted - his first post started off on a town foot. Ever since that, I've been unsettled by the votes that have gone his way - as well as yours, penguin_alien's #13 was not a good vote. Ghostlin's #59 wasn't great, either, and makes him look slow on the uptake when you compare it to the post I pointed out before where he unilaterally declares Saint town. I definitely didn't buy that you could have been ready to lynch Saint in
#69, as well. He may know it a bit too much but Saint seems fairly clear town to me and there are so many other better avenues to explore that it feels absurd.
BRO - 'k.
This isn't a case for towniness though. I say he needs pressure, especially after the way he reacted earlier. He flipped a shit about three votes. Why was my vote bad? Penguin might have been sketch, but still...
And who says that I was ready to lynch Saint?
In post 353, penguin_alien wrote:
So nice that it makes things interesting for you.
Here's fuzzybutternut's most recent complete scum game I can find:
link While it's worth considering that he's decided to switch up his meta as of this game, I'm not seeing a good reason to lynch him thus far. Is there anything in his fluff posting that makes you think he's scum?
ArcAngel9, why aren't you posting here? This seems like a game you'd be all over if you're town.
RachMarie, any scum reads yet?
Ghostlin, why do you think TMTOLBTWNTOF's changing his mind based on someone else's case is scummy?
Lord Mhork, what's your take on DeasVail with him shifting from voting you to Jake from State Farm?
Well I get townie feels off of DeasVail, though I will freely admit that ever since that Newbie game with him, I haven't been able to properly read him. Even though he's voted me, I feel like it was more a townie vote than a scum-faking-townie vote. The only real issue I had was him asking me not to vote him, and the follow up there was somewhat weak. Still I have been focusing on Saint and haven't given DeasVail much thought. Ugh... >.<
I wonder if sucking up to the replacements actually could be a real scum tell on DeasVail, and I'll admit that hit swap over to Jake was weird, though he established that he thought Jake was scummy and was getting conflicted feels in the posts before them... I can see scumminess here, slightly, but I still feel like Saint is a more fruitful endeavor, yeah?
I missed 164, Saint. Sorry... It doesn't really help you though.
In post 360, Ghostlin wrote: In post 349, Lord Mhork wrote:Why is Saint town? That's my question. That's my question to all of you people.
He's kicking hornet's nests and lighting random things on fire as Town, in a Town way. He's questioning peoples reads. He's using tells, he's trying to figure stuff out, even if he's been confrontational about it. (There would be a different word than confrontational, but I think Rule #0 prohibits me calling him the a-word.)
The majority of scum do NOT do this, even when aggressive as scum. The players that annoy the piss out of you because they're such rude ass hats? Town, at least 90% of the time. Unless someone can tell me he's a got a play style that does this as both Town and Scum, and a lot of people DO NOT, I'm 90% sure Saint is Town.
Ok. Good point. I can see this. I will think about Saint.
In post 367, Ghostlin wrote: In post 347, Lord Mhork wrote:Hang on you think ArcAngel is good at being scum? From what I've seen, she's awesome town and shit scum. It's the reason I've been waiting to see what she does, because she's usually very obvious about her alignment. At least, that's what I've seen in my few games with her.
What do you think about the fact she isn't posting? Is that part of her meta?
No. I'm waiting to see what she posts.
In post 400, Amrun wrote: In post 67, Saint wrote:oh, yeah, i should provide my alt
my alt is furcolow
I am on page 3, and furc is town as fuck. Hi furc!!!
Mhork's attack on him is slightly scummy. Mhork, have you ever played with furc?
(Forgive my small but frequent posts as I read -- phone is only option right now.)
I have not. What is the meta?
I gotta go league with bf :3
See you...
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:20 pm
by BROseidon
Can we talk about this read, because I disagree.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 4:23 pm
by Jake from State Farm
he was one of the worst VIs a few years back. iirc he would fake claim PRs as town and got D1 lynched often, mostly due to policy.
p.edit - I actually agree with bro here, please explain that ghostlin town read.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:08 pm
by Amrun
Mhork -- his meta is pretty unique. This is furc town, quite simply.
As for Ghostlin, I don't like to detail town reads unless I see a valid game reason to do so. It's enough to say that he has reflected my own thoughts at the right times enough that I won't lynch him today unless the only alternative is no lynch or DV, probably.
Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:13 pm
by Jake from State Farm
example please, cause to me it looks like you are BS'ing