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goddammit.

In post 400, borkjerfkin wrote:goddammit.

Do you get a sense of town perspective from kdub's recent posts?

Yeah.

Explain your #398.

bork, reading his posts the sense I get is that he's playing logic games with others' posts.

wincon --> motivation --> in-thread behavior

The inthread behavior looks like it boils down to "you haven't proved I'm scum."

In regards to his response to AS' vote where they give no reasoning? That wouldn't frustrate you?

I have to go to St. Louis in like 4 hours; I won't be around for deadline so we really, really need to work this out now.

In post 404, borkjerfkin wrote:In regards to his response to AS' vote where they give no reasoning? That wouldn't frustrate you?

380 and 381 preceeded the vote. Do you disagree with those posts?

p-edit Ok, let's talk about who you would rather lynch and why.

I didn't scroll up the page enough. Sec.

pending more discussion.

It looks like they're mostly up in arms about the "I have a confirmable ability and you should wait to lynch me" (#381), I think #380 is a pretty useless generalization.

Half of me wants to tell him to full claim now so we can go into this decision with more information and half of me wants to say let's fucking table this lynch until tomorrow.

Otherwise we need to lynch MC Ride.

Before the convo with AS and their exchange with kdub, I was starting to like the idea of an AA9 lynch.

But, we'll have to lynch MC Ride eventually so maybe sooner is better than later if we really don't have a solid scum lead.

If mara's town, she is not likely to change her mind about kdub. She's reminding me of the Poetic Justice game.

AA is a total fucking crapshoot to me.

AA might be scum but I seriously have no idea out of the obvious "why be a huge lurksack if you're town" point, whereas I think MC ride is probably town but we get rid of the loss on D2 problem.

p-edit, then I'll put the question to both you and Mara: do you think Kdub should claim or not?

bork, I'm somewhat reluctantly willing to go with your read on him today. It's mostly because I doubt a claim would improve things given what we know about the set up.

How long do we have?

We have about 9 hours 40 minutes from the time of this post.

Ok.
Then I think I'll have enough time to look at some stuff after the doc's appointment.

doc appt! yay! Hope you feel better soon.

In post 403, fferyllt wrote:bork, reading his posts the sense I get is that he's playing logic games with others' posts.

I point out logical flaws when people attack me with bad/nonexistent logic. Deal with it. It's how I've always played, no matter what my alignment.

AS's attack and refusal to discuss their issues with me is stubborn, but it's not inherently dishonest like GM's attacks were. I'm a little surprised by fferyllt's sudden change of opinion on me at a somewhat opportune time, but I've generally found her effort so far to be town, and she's showing willingness to listen to reason and discuss the issues. I really feel like GM and BRO are sitting back and letting you guys do their dirty work for them.

There is no need to compromise on a lynch today, or to quickhammer anyone, due to the plurality lynch rule. Vote for who you think is scum. If that turns out to be me, so be it.

I'm just going to claim to get all the cards on the table, and the point of me not fullclaiming in the first place no longer seems viable. When I originally claimed, I pretty much gave you my entire role. . I can give out a gift at night (sewing machine, sword, shield, bow and arrow, healing cordial) which doesn't serve any purpose other than to confirm my action. My target will receive the gift but won't be told that it came from me (although the nature of some of the gifts should make it pretty obvious to anyone familiar with the source material). I can only give out each gift once. Like I said, if you didn't believe me based on what I claimed before (which turned out to be pretty much everything other than flavor), this information probably isn't going to convince you now. The reason why I didn't claim it all originally was because I wanted scum to have to consider killing me at night. That's probably no longer going to happen, given general opinion on me, and it really would have only applied to N1 since I would have had to fullclaim D2 to prove the gift was from me anyway. Due to my fairly weak power, I won't be too upset if I am lynched today, provided it gets people to look at how badly goodmorning handled our exchange prior to the original deadline.

That was it?
1-shot Fruit vendor?
For that you've been holding on your claim?

Erm not 1-shot, but still.

I thought this would be significantly more positive utility for you to be so dodgy about claiming what it is.

VOTE: Kdub

...fruit vendor.

It can confirm that you are a fruit vendor. Fruit vendor is alignment non-indicative.

brb doing a quick vote count. I think that's L-1 again.

Yep.

Kdub (4) BROseidon, goodmorning, AS, bork
BROseidon (2) Mc Ride, Kdub
goodmorning (1) kdub



There's about 8 hours left. It would be really cool if AA posts some reads before the day ends.