A uPick of Ice & Fire - Day 12 - #REKT?

[Benmage]

I'll bite. Give me the reads without their being 2 scum teams, and I will too.

Your turn.

This will be an exercise in futility. But for your little hearts content:

Alfred/Alch/Shadoweh/MC

[Benmage]

Titus... wake up to everyone who knows me. Don't be so stubborn. Try to elevate yourself above what anger or emotion your feeling.. They blind you at this game. There was ZERO scum rationale to fake claim...So just try and think a little more.

***You're pleading SD to vote me, lynch me today... so tomorrow you can also lynch ooba. This either reads as a scum claim. Or just the stupidest statement ever.

You think the scum team did back to back fakeclaims?

Really...

FARADAY

[Benmage]

I did say it was an exercise in futility.

[Benmage]

Naut,

what did Alfred do D1 that was soooooo TOWN ZOMG>... zzzz

[Benmage]

Lol syranna posts...! not reading it.

[Benmage]

@Ben- Where were you when we were fighting with multiple people on our Alfred read? You seem to be looking around for people to back you up here and you were nowhere to be found when we were pushing that read. It seems like you should have reached out at the time so that we could line up shoulder to shoulder and take the fight to them even if we were outnumbered against "superior" forces.

What day was this?

(I can't help but chuckle at the remember this bold comment from syrana....So in lylo we'll remember and rectify this ship...zzz..the amount of effort at this point is mindblowing...where was this previous?? Find me a town to comeback from this whole, and I'll understand the motivation. Otherwise... yawn)

[Benmage]

@Ben- Where were you when we were fighting with multiple people on our Alfred read? You seem to be looking around for people to back you up here and you were nowhere to be found when we were pushing that read. It seems like you should have reached out at the time so that we could line up shoulder to shoulder and take the fight to them even if we were outnumbered against "superior" forces.

What day was this?

(I can't help but chuckle at the remember this bold comment from syrana....So in lylo we'll remember and rectify this ship...zzz..the amount of effort at this point is mindblowing...where was this previous?? Find me a town to comeback from this whole, and I'll understand the motivation. Otherwise... yawn)

You're like that fucking kid. You don't get what you fucking want, you throw a goddamn tantrum and do whatever you can to fuck the rest of us. At least I had the goddamn decency to keep my fucking mouth shut and not spew waste and bullshit on this fucking thread and blame everybody in the game including the mod for my own fuckups.

I'm not going to sit here and pretend I didn't lurk through most of the game, Benmage. My play, minus Day 1, has been utter shit. But what I

am

going to do, I'm going to pull my head out of my ass and try to work with ooba/Shadoweh/SD and whomever else I can get a fucking townread on to at least

attempt

to salvage this game. I'd like the same from you.

yawn

[Benmage]

@Ben- Where were you when we were fighting with multiple people on our Alfred read? You seem to be looking around for people to back you up here and you were nowhere to be found when we were pushing that read. It seems like you should have reached out at the time so that we could line up shoulder to shoulder and take the fight to them even if we were outnumbered against "superior" forces.

What day was this?

D7.

- Des

Pfft no need to bus so late. You guys got this game on lockdown.

[Benmage]

unvote vote Alfred

Cephrir wakey wakey.

Magua, welcome to the light.

[Benmage]

MC, vote alred. Naut will wakeup.

[Benmage]

@OOBA

lets go bro.

[Benmage]

Flash wagon makes me nervous.

[Benmage]

The OoOOoOOoOOO I have secret information... only I must know Im the key!!!! didn't u read my pm to faraday.. its scum bullshit twisting, and town thinking they're hot shit when they aren't.

You think alfred has all that and some super thing up his sleeve... its page what? You shouldn't have to read another line of text... Its all there.. its been there the only thing changes now is analysis after flips...

ZZZzzzzz

take all the time you need... Ill be the one at the end going I told you so.

[Benmage]

ALFRED has mutlitple neighborizes, is a coroner, AND something up his sleeve he cant reveal.

[Benmage]

Tammy/Syranna marriage... Garruk/Shadoweh neighbor given a strongarmvig... Cephrir/kkb 1 way notes..... and now Alfreds a town neighbor too.. *cough bullshit* *cough*

[Benmage]

Titus was your other best town read Magua.....

Ball

You


Dropped

[Benmage]

Ill be here saying I told you so.

[Benmage]

Hide behind the fakeclaim and ignore the validity. You unvoted from Titus your other best town read. There's a gagillion neighbor roles and they're all town.

Cheah.. O-kay

[Benmage]

I havent called (pushed)much people scum this game save Alfred.. and obv the misfire on Garruk.. which had I not gotten tunnel-mode there I probably would've switched to Alfred after Tammy was killed.. but since I created the idea when TET terribadfest was occurring I rushed it... zzz myb.... but alfreds still obvscum.

[Benmage]

ooba do yourself a favor and vote alfred

[Benmage]

My hammers were on obviously-going-to-happen lynches.

Except when you hammered before an outted role could claim their night results.

[Benmage]

Are you seriously chasing some Joffery boogey man now??

ITS MINDLESS REDHERRING SHIT. I know this for a fact because my role has special magic dust for Jaime Lannister... but I'm not auto-assuming he's in the game let alone scum.

SO

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

boogeyman nonsense.

[Benmage]

Outside of scum Alfred informing about joffery... whats the conclusion that Jof scum makes sense?

[Benmage]

In fact, to clarify.

I gave Tierce the coin.

I was informed that I'd be attempting to kill Joffrey Baratheon that Night.

The next Day I was informed Joffrey Baratheon doesn't exist in the game.

No more rabbitholes, plzkthx.

told you so.

Lynch confscum Alfred.

[Benmage]

told you so.

Lynch confscum Alfred.

The setup spec wasn't my main reasoning behind the MC lynch anyway.

Your scum team "Alfred/Alch/Shadoweh/MC" doesn't even make sense - Alch\MC decided to bus their scum buddy Alfred in their weakest way possible.

The scumteam was a waste of time.. I told you this.

[Benmage]

OOBA EVERYONE HAS THE I WONT DO THIS I WONT DO THAT BULLSHIT.

Scum have too much say right now. WRITE THIS DOWN

We will deadline mislynch

if you don't lynch alfred beforehand.

Fucking grow a pair and lynch Alfred.

[Benmage]

Magua this is the speedlynch you're worried about.

Pathetic.

Keep up the deadline mislynch with scum having 4 votes.

[Benmage]

SafetyDance is scum, and Im mad I saved her early this game.

[Benmage]

VOTE: unvote

Benmage's fervor makes me wonder if this is a mistake.

How many scum are alive? Why would scum need fervor when dominating this game.

FARADAY

you suck.

[Benmage]

Titus

, add up for me whose lynch is even feasible. Half the players have half the playerbase as "no-lynches"... and they differentiate.. So like I said before. This will be a deadline speedlynch because town are naive and stubborn and scum have ZERO reason to bus.

[Benmage]

By dodging the meat, and clinging to the nonsense.. keep it up magua.

[Benmage]

How many scum are alive? Why would scum need fervor when dominating this game.

FARADAY

you suck.

This is the Opposite of How it Works.
Whining and spouting blatantly false information don't help anything.

I'm sorry.... are you suggesting scum need to do anything at this point in the game? Why wouldn't they sit back and soak in the glory.

This towns going to lynch correctly 4 times?

stfu scumbag.

[Benmage]

Making myself unlynchable as town seems really bad... o wait... I botched a fakeclaim where we had enough conftowns and enough scum to make it pretty damn good odds. It should've been on you. But myb. Lets see... who else... Naut 1v1'ing goat...zzz and ooba faking on kkb. AND YOU hammering before a claimed PR gets to reveal results.

So yeah.. Blame EVERYTHING on me the guy who doesn't sugarcoat... its the easy way out.

[Benmage]

VOTE: Messiah Complex

Making myself unlynchable as town seems really bad... o wait...

I botched a fakeclaim

where we had enough conftowns and enough scum to make it pretty damn good odds. It should've been on you. But myb. Lets see... who else... Naut 1v1'ing goat...zzz and ooba faking on kkb. AND YOU hammering before a claimed PR gets to reveal results.

So yeah.. Blame EVERYTHING on me the guy who doesn't sugarcoat... its the easy way out.

I almost cannot process this attitude being town. You singlehandedly lynched a townie, and it is somehow not your fault? Shut the fuck up.

Hooked on phonics failed for you. I don't deny the misfire... But to rest the current gamestate solely on my shoulders is laughable.

[Benmage]

VOTE: Messiah Complex

Making myself unlynchable as town seems really bad... o wait...

I botched a fakeclaim

where we had enough conftowns and enough scum to make it pretty damn good odds. It should've been on you. But myb. Lets see... who else... Naut 1v1'ing goat...zzz and ooba faking on kkb. AND YOU hammering before a claimed PR gets to reveal results.

So yeah.. Blame EVERYTHING on me the guy who doesn't sugarcoat... its the easy way out.

I almost cannot process this attitude being town. You singlehandedly lynched a townie, and it is somehow not your fault? Shut the fuck up.

Hooked on phonics failed for you. I don't deny the misfire... But to rest the current gamestate solely on my shoulders is laughable.

I didn't.

I rested one lynch solely on your shoulders. Which it literally is. If I was in the business of policy lynches ever nevermind in lylo...

Did I say you did? Was this conversation toward you... or did you stick your nose into it. Exxxxxactly.

[Benmage]

Ben - if I'm right about the scum pairing of MC\TA\Magua\[Shadoweh(or)Safety], you're the townie on the Alfred wagon.

Thats not the scumteam tho.

[Benmage]

There's a couple possibilities that will become clearer with a flipped scum in Alfred and NK choice... We'll finalize then.... Doing so now is idiotic speculation... Hence why your scumteam request was nothing but a lesson in futility.

[Benmage]

Cephrir's avoided Alfred a lot. And scum knew I was faking.. His "oh yeah" moment... could easily be scum... But alas this is speculation.

Flip Alfred to win the game. Period.

[Benmage]

OOBA/EVERYONE

LOOK AT IT THIS WAY... Myself, Titus, MC, TA and even Magua all voted/would vote Alfred. You don't think the remaining scum could weasel their way onto a the Alfred wagon if it were a mislynch.

ALFRED HASN"T BEEEN LYNCHED BECAUSE HE"S SCUM AND SCUM HAVE NO REASON TO BUS.

[Benmage]

Cephrir's avoided Alfred a lot. And scum knew I was faking.. His "oh yeah" moment... could easily be scum... But alas this is

speculation.

Flip Alfred to win the game. Period.

I thought you were faking because I tracked you on some arbitrary night other than the night you claimed. What incentive would I have to make this up? If I were scum and you were town, why would I not say I tracked you on the night in question and probably get both you and Garruk lynched? Maybe because I'm not lying, imagine that.

Defensive much? I said it was mindless speculation.

[Benmage]

I'm not avoiding Alfred. I just need to look at them again. If MC is scum I'm not going to be too worried about it, honestly. This day has made it clear they're not scumbuddies IMO.

4 scum... you can't envision a scenario where they let one take a dive with massive busing/distancing to propel the other one's townliness... Come on, think a little.

[Benmage]

unvote vote messiah

alrighty

[Benmage]

Magua unvotes scum under the pretense of speed...when those who claim to want to vote him do so...

now he's squandered the day uselessly... much like tierce and tammy did in their time.


zzzzz


good players.

lol

[Benmage]

Nothing on his

Jaime Lanister

claim??

Made me curious.

His reactions is clearly one of town now.

Good job failing.

[Benmage]

God I can't wait for the show tomorrow. Watch as town (and scum pretending) attempt to suggest that there's even the slightest chance.

It would require 5 town to all agree on one another as town, and all correctly name the 4 remaining scum.

Should be quite the show.

*popcorn*

(hintguesswhowontbelynched..ALFRED..causescumrefusetobus)

[Benmage]

Someone wake up tierce. Tomorrow's LYLO... GUESSS WHO IM VOTING TO START THE DAY!!!!!! ALFRED... so dear scum, organize yourselves to quickhammer the obvious townie Alfred...

(hintwonthappencauseAlfredisscum)

[Benmage]

Dear Ooba, its 6 scum teams of 1, clearly.

[Benmage]

Someone ask Faraday... but I question if I yelled at him in the Wire... the one time he granted me scum.. (maybe I yelled at him about Jason not being modkilled, my scum partner who disgraced the game by lurking)...

See there's no reason to yell when you're scum. You alone control you own outcome to win. Don't be lynched. Its simple.

Whereas as town... I must relay on all you dumbfucks, and a mod who still doesn't know how to balance because he roots for scum,

and refuses to accept how shitty town really are.

Town only win by luck.

See why it sucks being town.

[Benmage]

Im Batman.

[Benmage]

I knew ooba would hammer.

Why shouldn't I be smug?

Town can't win games.... Mods can't balance large themes.... Scum is easy to win with.

The truth hurts? All I speak is the truth... I don't sugarcoat.

I say when Im wrong like I did. And I point out when others are wrong..... It seems the others just have difficulty accepting when they're wrong... And that's the issue my friend.

[Benmage]

vote alfred

its my birthday

noi ur drunk

[Benmage]

unvote vote benmage

its my brithday and i am so fuking twisted.

[Benmage]

Woah, alcohol....

unvote vote Alfred

[Benmage]

We should probably keep posting, and use the whole deadline.

I don't think 6000+ posts is enough to get reads.

[Benmage]

5500 posts with the town the way it is... Who said Im throwing in the towl.. Just pointing out observations of the game:

Ooba calling it 6 scum teams of 1. TET having no scum reads, just themselves as town. EVeryone else stubbornly disagreeing and not budging on reads.

Meanwhile, Magua lost and not reading... Naut Wall postsing this late into the game. (noone read).. ALCHEMIST for comic relief? Or just active when the noose slips around his neck...

So yeah.. thats the gamestate.

We should just lynch and analyze post flips.

Who still needs to question people/things?

[Benmage]

If you look at The Wire, also by Faraday, you'll see the traitor there *also* knew the members of the scumteam.

So, I'm pretty damn sure that Messiah knew who the scum here were. They didn't know him, but him jumping onto that Alfred wagon and yelling for thunder is a pretty fair indication to me that Alfred is not, as much as I want him to be, scum.

This was what I was thinking off too, which makes looking for bussing redundant because scum wouldn't have known who the traitor was, though something Magua didn't mention was that in The Wire they KNEW there was scum. In fact most of MC's D9 plain is pretty much consigned to WIFOM. Much rather focus on Ooba.

I'm definitely going with the 4+1:1 theory, which is effectively the same as TW, expect the lyncher being a different sort of TP this game. No doubt :shenanigans: though, this is Faraday (as Ben likes to mention every now and again).

See this Magua post is utter shit logic.

Much like I said to I think Cephrir.... With as strong as the scum team was... Having 1 guy take the dive to propell the other to quasi townconfirmdom would be the best course of action.

MC doing it... MC being the more vehement one, not Alfred in reverse... makes this scenario all the more probable.

ANd Just because I said town has 0 chance to win this game, doesn't mean I've given up. I just know the outcome.

[Benmage]

ANd Just because I said town has 0 chance to win this game, doesn't mean I've given up. I just know the outcome.

So why does someone town who's

not

given up push the game one mislynch closer to loss? Doesn't add up.

This doesn't make sense.. I only be voting scumz

[Benmage]

Of course the MC wifom applies to AB, but it also applies to Magua too. Which is why I'm putting less stock in what MC was saying D9 because they knew they were gone and in hindsight their posting reflects that

They knew they were gone.. yet stamped their feet about AB.

Hence AB be scum.

[Benmage]

unvote vote Magua

[Benmage]

Look what you did

Faraday.

How could you. How is town not suppose to lynch Alchemist... how? What a waste.... towns



dis game.

(disclaimer:hehasn'tbeenhammeredbecause?)

[Benmage]

Benmage, much as I want him to be scum, will probably flip town.

Do you say this in everyone of your little post blips... its like a broken record.

We get it.

You've put zero effort into the game because you're scum.

And this town thinks thats cool, cause you were active D1.

[Benmage]

uhhh Benmage:?

Good point.

unvote vote The Alchemist

[Benmage]

Vote Alfred

[Benmage]

Yeah its only lylo... not a good time for massclaiming... massclaim on d1 or not at all..

Right?

[Benmage]

Ya probably...

Naut, your final 3 scum.

Cephrir, same question.

[Benmage]

lololol

[Benmage]

Magua's team:
Nautilus
Cephrir
SafetyDance

Naut's team:
Magua
Titus
SDance

Come on Ceph... u can do this.

[Benmage]

o.O? IN lylo i vote my partner.. and have been like the sole person calling him scum, when tons (including a traitor who would know he was scum)(who you also said a scum flip on MC would confAlfred town, yet I had to be the one to argue that logic as invalid)

Wow... did Ceph just spill his hand?

[Benmage]

6000 posts just aint enough to get reads...

I understand.

[Benmage]

Magua's team:
Nautilus
Cephrir
SafetyDance

Naut's team:
Magua
Titus
SDance

Cephrir's team:
Magua
Benmage
Titus.

Alfred notyolo, you're up.

[Benmage]

Settle down naut, we're still in Christmas Past.

[Benmage]

What are you worried about?

I'm scum, therefore only 2 scum can quick vote. So whats the issue Ceph?

[Benmage]

The more the merrier... i count 2 and you.. You gonna selfvote?

[Benmage]

Alfred, your list please.

[Benmage]

inviting?

[Benmage]

inviting?

[Benmage]

Magua's team:
Nautilus
Cephrir
SafetyDance

Naut's team:
Magua
Titus
SDance

Cephrir's team:
Magua
Benmage
Titus.

Alfred's team:
Titus
Benmage
SDance

[Benmage]

unvote

[Benmage]

Naut 2 of your town reads have me as scum. Hows that make you feel about the success of the game?

[Benmage]

How does my scumteam affect that 2 of your reads have me as scum... its lylo, one wrong move and its G-G... and TWO of your towns have me a scum...2....

[Benmage]

Naut does it surprise you to be alive with 551 posts?? To have played as a strong a game as you have... EVen with the walls of investment into a mislynch on Alch... Even with the wrong 1v1... You've played a town game, no? So why are you alive on D11????

No questioning that maybe your town reads are inaccurate?

[Benmage]

At ta tah, there are more to cover first.

[Benmage]

unvote vote Benmage

too slow

[Benmage]

Im glad youve been following along Magua.

[Benmage]

Magua what do you think of Alfreds scumteam?

[Benmage]

Magua,

Alfred has 2 of your town reads... Titus... who took notes. When was the last time you remember a scum player taking notes, then linking photos of them into the thread. Let me tell you the last time it happened for me. Zero.

Than there's me... selfvoting in lylo, like a boss.

So... how strong is that Alfred townread?

[Benmage]

All according to Faraday's plan.

[Benmage]

Yeah Ceph, I pointed it out incase it got missed.

Titus,

why aren't you voting me if Im scum?

[Benmage]

So... how strong is that Alfred townread?

Since I believe that Messiah knew the scumteam, had plenty of town people he could've gone after (Ooba, Alchemist), but instead chose to jump on an Alfred flashwagon

...it's actually pretty strong.

I mean, I still have a large BoP on Alfred that they're straight up not living up to, and I don't see thoughts behind their posts, but Messiah's play outweighs all of that handily in my mind.

See.

You have the answer right here. He could have gone for town OOba. Or town Alchemist.

BUT CHOSE TO BUS HIS PARTNER. TO MAKE HIS PARTNER LOOK TOWN.

HELLOO COFFEE WAKE THE FUCK UP.

[Benmage]

brb leagueoflegends

unvote

[Benmage]

See.

You have the answer right here. He could have gone for town OOba. Or town Alchemist.

BUT CHOSE TO BUS HIS PARTNER. TO MAKE HIS PARTNER LOOK TOWN.

HELLOO COFFEE WAKE THE FUCK UP.

Possible. But unlikely. Messiah was already voting Alchemist, who was L-2. He leaves that to join an Alfred flash wagon? Why? If he was going to bus Alfred to get Alfred some towncred, I'd expect either more distancing-over-time or more single-minded tunneling. "Oh, someone's voting scum, let's jump on that" doesn't fit in my mind as a bussing strategy. Too seat of the pants.

So he's scum torn between mislynching and wanting to bus......simple.

[Benmage]

Was going to respond all nihilistic to that quick-hammer and nk but see I've been pre-empted by a million pages of all that.

See everyone's reads are/were wind. No real surprise with the playerlist that's left.

Right now feel like voting Ben because he's the player I'd most like not to lose to at this stage. Play has been ridiculous and anti-town for too long now.

Policy lynch for LyLo? Sure!

Oh iv wan one iv wan one

[Benmage]

Scum's plan for today may be "Let Benmage vote Marble and then win."
If Benmage is scum they leave Shadoweh to be the townie who votes me and NK Naut.
And yes, Benmage has done some town-Benmage things.

I'm at work now and I'm going to need more time to think.

Why are you, Naut and Ceph still alive? Yeah, now that's a plan to consider.

Huzzah, scumsgonna be forced to bus^ alfred.

[Benmage]

Vote Alfred

it is time.

[Benmage]

SD, put your likely scumteam together please.

Unlike scum who have all their ducks in a row, I haven't come into the thread and suddenly got 3 concrete scum reads within 5 minutes of seeing the night kill.

As for scum lists I have no fucking idea why this is a thing. I have seen it happen in exactly 0% of games I've been in or read. Wtf is going to be achieved from it?

Its going to demonstrate how the scum will opt to bus one of their partners, while also picking a popular town member to be mislynched.

Now if you don't mind... please do the above as you are indeed scum.

[Benmage]

^zzzzz surface reasoning to trick scum into following along. My answer was the

truth

[Benmage]

*returns to thread*

*notes

Titus and

SD scumming it up*

*leaves*

ftfy

[Benmage]

I knows... the final piece to the puzzle is Magua or Ceph, and neither want to help.

[Benmage]

I think its safe to conclude the final scumteam is:

Alfred
Sdance
Magua

[Benmage]

^Oh yeah thats the lynch order I mean.

[Benmage]

No, I dont see the reason of quick-voting like Benmage, or giving a fucking arbitrary list 5 minutes into the day with out properly analysising the game or without figuring out why shit has happened. It's a joke that people are against massclaiming. In lylo. It's fucking absurd.

Yeah the 10 days beforehand and 6000+ posts are useless when making final reads.

I am actually going to analyse the people still alive, iso dive, vca, actually thing about it. At least that's my plan. Going by all this spam and page count, gateway errors constant ninjas. I'll get an hour into and you and your friends will have spammed the thread enough and Ben will have thrown the game.

THIS IS THE QUITESSENTIAL FINAL SCUM STATEMENT.

hurdur im confused... i need to reread.. hurdur look how town i am, im going slow, hur dur

NEWSFLASH who else made this comment.

ALFRED

[Benmage]

Ah cephrir you can wake up too.

[Benmage]

Fuck sake, if people are happy to derp and throw the game immediately it wont be because of me being here. I'm out for the day, bye.

WAIT you left your ball as you took your 'ball' and stormed off!!!

[Benmage]

No, I dont see the reason of quick-voting like Benmage, or giving a fucking arbitrary list 5 minutes into the day with out properly analysising the game or without figuring out why shit has happened. It's a joke that people are against massclaiming. In lylo. It's fucking absurd.

Yeah the 10 days beforehand and 6000+ posts are useless when making final reads.

I am actually going to analyse the people still alive, iso dive, vca, actually thing about it. At least that's my plan. Going by all this spam and page count, gateway errors constant ninjas. I'll get an hour into and you and your friends will have spammed the thread enough and Ben will have thrown the game.

THIS IS THE QUITESSENTIAL FINAL SCUM STATEMENT.

hurdur im confused... i need to reread.. hurdur look how town i am, im going slow, hur dur

NEWSFLASH who else made this comment.

ALFRED

Two scum make the same tactic in lylo... you should really rethink this

but oh wait you're scum looking to link SD to your buddy.

Actually I just pointed out a statement that scum, and most really aren't conscious enough to pick up on. So they both did so in their personal view of appearing town... and newsflash its a massive scumtell to the keen eye.

[Benmage]

Benmage-Nacho-An Other if I had to guess right now judging by the charade going on.

NACHO!!!!

I TOLD U BROTHA.

LYNCH ORDER:
Alfred
SDance
Magua

[Benmage]

Duo isoing SD & Titus, because this is beginning to make a lot of sense.

Its not titus for the same reason it wasn't alchemist.

[Benmage]

We'll deal with titus later... just go full ignore mode atm... He listed me and Alfred as partners... nuff said.. Use him to lynch Alfred today. Fix him tomorrow.

[Benmage]

Magua's team:
Nautilus
Cephrir
SafetyDance

Naut's team:
Magua

Titus

SDance

Cephrir's team:
Magua
Benmage

Titus.

Alfred's team:

Titus

Benmage
SDance

See titus... You're town. See how it wouldn't be hard for me as scum to simply not bus alfred... and win the game on you?

[Benmage]

On the other hand, Shadoweh was looking like a vote for Alfred & Magua.

Shadoweh kill screams Alfred Alfred Alfred.

Without being so obvs as me.

Can we get to Day12 yet?

As if my vote sitting on him and the day not ending isn't evidence enough.

Naut $-Mouth

[Benmage]

(thinkSDleftforscumqtlikemagua/alfred)

[Benmage]

I just need Naut to put on his big boy pants, and alfred will be obvscum, and today can run its course while he sits at L-2.... Thats right no more than L-2, because he will self hammer.

[Benmage]

I don't see many options left beyond lynching Benmage and hoping he flips scum.

Optimal strategy... it was your last resort. GL.

[Benmage]

NAUT. DO ITT

FEEL THE POWER.

1 VOTE

ITS OBVIOUS

Then we can let titus figure out SD is scum while SD coasts, and never does a vca.

[Benmage]

Its like taking the S.A.T's don't overthink.

[Benmage]

Suppose for a moment I am right on Alfred Nacho, BM, who is the third scum?

Wow... SD and I had a fight once awhile back and that means we're buddies, I guess we're all scum. Pack up head home. We lost... oh wait. Pretty much the only slot I haven't dickered with a lot is Magua.

But it can't be nacho... SO I don't understand the question? It would still be Sdance and Magua. Or I suppose since Magua's the least obvious, just Sdance. Happy?

[Benmage]

Its like taking the S.A.T's don't overthink.

Yeah I don't like the high pressure sales from you.

Im a Shark, and there's naut(punintended) but minnows thus far. I've finally got my Marlin wounded and waiting for the kill.

[Benmage]

Besides logic is always on my side.

Alfred just admitted it before in... dunt dunt dunt... yet another scum claim.

Its him or me.

At this point you can choose between us freely.

This is the only course.

[Benmage]

Explain to me in 48 hours how scum didn't organze a quick hammer on Alfred.

(oh right cause benmage is scum, so they needed 1 more vote)

((alright than vote benmage))

(((oh wait back to its the original only course, damn u logic)))

[Benmage]

Ceph its u me Naut n titus. Get on board brotha, cause its the only road to victory.

[Benmage]

Its like taking the S.A.T's don't overthink.

[Benmage]

Ehh Maguas the last to lynch. This first is most obvious. Let you mind at ease as it gets closer to the final of final hours.

[Benmage]

You mean like that fake claim. I cannot get past that

But like Tierce said, I only fakeclaim as town.

So... we good? High5?

[Benmage]

Ehh Maguas the last to lynch. This first is most obvious. Let you mind at ease as it gets closer to the final of final hours.

As of this moment, I'm 100% with you.
We need Titus on board and not freaking out.

Your vote proves Alfreds guilt.

We don't need ANY other votes because alfred will self-hammer.

IF SCUM DON't NK either you or I. ITS FUCKING GOOD GAME.

If they NK either of, Titus's scumteam falls apart.

He'll be enlightened tomorrow whether he likes it or not.

[Benmage]

Can you make a case why Magua is scum? I have her and Cephir as pretty strong townreads ATM.

Ya. Its not you. Its not Me. Its not Naut (which you'll see tomorrow so w/e)... CORRECT! Its not Ceph.

So. You see. You have answered your own questions. (Its fun playing like Socrates... everyone knows the answer, they just don't know they know it) The only, and mind you... logical.. conclusion, is Magua scum.

[Benmage]

@Benmage: If it comes down to you-or-Alfred because no quickhammer, you should know I'm going to vote you. Just a heads up.

Of course you are. I just pegged you as the final 3 scumteam... and this is your best shot to get someone to join u 3 against me. in this forced 1v1.

Good showing your hands.

Im convinced now... no more doubt.

AHHH Enlightenment... Hi Buddah

[Benmage]

MOD

is that a mistake VC?

unvote vote ALFRED

[Benmage]

You should be freaking out right now if you're town, not remaining assured that Benmage will be lynched today.

His clamness is caught scum... there is no alternative here.

It is what it is... its fun being this right this late into the game.

[Benmage]

Vote Alfred

it is time.

Mod did you miss this?

[Benmage]

It is done than. Alfred is guilty.

[Benmage]

NO MORE VOTES BTW ALFRED WILL QUICKHAMMER

[Benmage]

Alrighty than.

Twas a valiant effort Llamarable.

Seems Magua has run back to the cave...

Wouldn't even adamant town be in here yelling at Ceph for being a moron and voting ALFRED HIS BEST TOWN READ over me... the other person he's called town a gagillion times.

Nope.

Back to the scumqt first!

[Benmage]

Its almost Sunset walking time. As Hand, let me give some final words... one moment.

[Benmage]

No, Magua's "best town read"

[Benmage]

Benmage, why are you so sure Naut is town and Magua is scum. Asking for a case is not asking for PoE I don't agree with btw.

Case?

Case that Maguas predecessor blocked town.
Case that Magua never told who he's been blocking since.
Case that Magua (hurdur meta) didn't read thread when replacing in.
Case that Magua wants to vote me over Alfred.

Case done?

Oh Naut?

Case that Naut has 600 posts.
Case that Naut walled the fuck out of the game with 6000 posts when scum could coast to glory.
Case Case Case

[Benmage]

Benmage, why are you so sure Naut is town and Magua is scum. Asking for a case is not asking for PoE I don't agree with btw.

oh my god titus is so town

i'm sorry for doubting father, i will never practice heathen ways again

It is okay my child.

Faraday is a sinister man.

[Benmage]

In the name of FARADAY of the House Moderator, the First of His Name. Lord of Upick Ice & Fire, and Protector of the Forum, I, Ben of the House Mage, Lord of this Game and Warden of the Town, sentence you to die.

[Benmage]

You all may now hammer Alfred. Well done.

[Benmage]

Titus, didn't you read the Nacho case.

Its quite strong.

But to conclude. Neither Naut nor I shall both be alive tomorrow. So your riddles will solve themself.

[Benmage]

Why didn't AB hammer like you expected BM?

Heavily defeated... Maguas equally caught.

The scumqt went from HUZZAH... to OHSHIT!

[Benmage]

there's too many of us here with Alfred alive for him to be anything but scum.

[Benmage]

TITUS IS NOW CONFIRMED TOWN
SAFETYDANCE WOULD GO NOWHERE IF BENMAGE WAS ACTING THE WAY HE WAS AND YOU WERE TOWN AND THEY WERE WAITING FOR A QUICKHAMMER

This logic fails because Alfred is scum.

In the fairyland of today where we have to pretend since Alfred has yet to meet the sword. Yes sure Titus is conftown.

But we already knew this *snickers to Ceph, Naut, n Titus for winning the game in lylo*

[Benmage]

3 MAN QUICKHAMMERS DON'T HAPPEN WHEN THE ORIGINAL VOTER IS AROUND.

SD and Magua haven't been far... they disappeared conveniently.

If you were town, and they were scum they'd be salivating at this gamestate.

Titus proved his town.

You can stop now.

Tell me how its Naut-Benmage-Ceph for the scumteam

[Benmage]

In the name of FARADAY of the House Moderator, the First of His Name. Lord of Upick Ice & Fire, and Protector of the Forum, I, Ben of the House Mage, Lord of this Game and Warden of the Town, sentence you to die.

[Benmage]

#rekt

[Benmage]

Teirce crying about me.. classic... noone owns up to their horrid play.

TET, gj.

[Benmage]

What happened if scum shot traitor?

[Benmage]

Annoying to have been reading Alfred as scum, then change that based on a supposition about how traitor works normally, only to find out I was right originally and wrong on how the traitor worked in this game. S'my fault for letting mechanics take precedence over my reads.

Your interplay with Alfred cemented my read on you over Cephrir as scum. Prior to that, and especially a result of ellen... I had you as town.

When you hopped off alfreds "quickwagon".... yeah... you were doomed to be lynched.

[Benmage]

What happened if scum shot traitor?

He died.

Interesting.

Lotta qt's/behind the scenes activity... not really a fan of it.. everything thinks their information is the shit, people trick others into reading them as town via QTs and the rest of us cant dismantle the arguments.. Like Tierce reading Empire wrong.

[Benmage]

Teirce crying about me.. classic... noone owns up to their horrid play.

TET, gj.

god you suck

Who are you again?

[Benmage]

Benmage, did you read me as town solely because "I took notes"?

It certainly helped. Combined by a genuine feel throughout the game in trying to help and understand. I think I wrote you off too soon, and others as scum via PoE.. and never really picked up on your later questionable moves.

[Benmage]

I have plenty of evidence to present to moderators of games I play in that shows you are not a welcome addition if they expect their game to have competent, reasonable players who care about their win condition. So by all means, come say that I do not own up to my play, Benmage.

You don't own up to your play.
-Benmage.

[Benmage]

noone owns up to their horrid play.

Your hypocrisy is phenomenal. It must be spectacular to never look into a mirror.
Remember when you called me useless and anti-Town? I was voting scum. You? Were pushing fake guilties and blaming your play on Faraday and trying to ignore the fact that

you

do the same bullshit every single game.

I never once deny my wrongdoings.

I don't know why your in such a hissyfit? I fakeclaimed.. great people do it all the time.
I called you out for being wrong on TET... so? I was right...

I played an awful game. So hissyfit for profit? I get it....

[Benmage]

Tierce reads Empire wrong, Benmage lays into her because that is "horrid play".
Benmage fakes guilties, he is a god at Mafia and the fault is all Faraday's.

Yep~

I played a bad game... I never claimed to be playing a good game. My wrong reads ended up costing the game... But rest everything on my shoulders.. it'll help you vent.

[Benmage]

I got rocked misreading a scum neighbor in my young days on this site.... Since then, Ive never seen much a town benefit to talking in neighborhoods.

[Benmage]

Good Game Faraday. Hard to balance things with this much action/interactions things get real swingy... but we made the statistics for large normals so c'est la vie..

Why a Miller.... WHYYYYYY

[Benmage]

And Tierce.. your the one who opened post game coping the attitude.. you take things way to personally. I don't have any ill beef towards you despite that you were calling Alfred town forever while I was calling him scum.. So cheah.

[Benmage]

WHY MILLER!@!!!!!

[Benmage]

I don't know why your in such a hissyfit? I fakeclaimed.. great people do it all the time.

Must be nice to have such an unshakable ego that you keep fakeclaiming guilties to no avail and keep thinking that is something a "great person" would do!

Thats been the first wrong guilty I've done in like a year or 2... and my batting % would be pretty high. But I digress..

Look, I'm sorry if I crossed the line (again) with you. Its never my intent to truly be mean. I come off arrogant and brutish, but I just lose patience and become a dick. I expect others to let things roll off their shoulders the way I do. So yeah... sorry you got as upset as you did, not my desire(this is technically a game right? )... and I'll respect avoiding you in future games.

[Benmage]

I felt like SafetyDance was one of those scum lynches that should've happened way in the beginning (when it didn't) and I thought he was on borrowed time... and I just had bad blinders up... that helped in the PoE that made Titus town.

I do agree Nacho... that was some quirky lylo. But fun!