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Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 11:58 am
by TierShift
In post 399, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 398, bjc wrote:That's not exactly what Burden of Proof mean, but this isn't AP Language class so I'll pass on that.


Look at AbboTT's reason for why I'm scum, then change the name of which the post is addressing from bjc to emeraldemon, and you have it!
Why did you say "if you all are so hungry for a lynch, why don't you lynch Rob"?
I missed that wow.
Come state intent with us nacho.

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:00 pm
by TierShift
In post 398, bjc wrote:That's not exactly what Burden of Proof mean, but this isn't AP Language class so I'll pass on that.


Look at AbboTT's reason for why I'm scum, then change the name of which the post is addressing from bjc to emeraldemon, and you have it!
Doesn't work at all for emerald, sorry.

I do hope he'll be back to say more after the weekend tho

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:08 pm
by bjc
In post 399, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 398, bjc wrote:That's not exactly what Burden of Proof mean, but this isn't AP Language class so I'll pass on that.


Look at AbboTT's reason for why I'm scum, then change the name of which the post is addressing from bjc to emeraldemon, and you have it!
Why did you say "if you all are so hungry for a lynch, why don't you lynch Rob"?
Because he offers absolutely nothing to this game. We'd also maybe find some information in the following shifting of votes.

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:10 pm
by bjc
EBWOP: Or the reluctance of someone to shift votes. It just doesn't seem logical to lynch someone that actively posts content in a mafia game on day one over someone who hasn't done anything, won't be replaced, and may/may not be scum unless of course you are scum.

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:22 pm
by AbboTT
In post 403, bjc wrote:It just doesn't seem logical to lynch someone that actively posts content in a mafia game on day one over someone who hasn't done anything, won't be replaced, and may/may not be scum
He's got a point here...

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:51 pm
by TierShift
So we've come to lynching lurkers over scummy players, then?

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 12:53 pm
by bjc
In post 405, TierShift wrote:So we've come to lynching lurkers over scummy players, then?
I'm willing to wager that..

Some of the players voting on me are just voting me to keep a wagon going, and not because they really think I'm scum.
The rest are either scum or sheeping.

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:30 pm
by emeraldemon
Sorry for being gone so long, signing up for three games simultaneously was a mistake but I'm still going to try to win this thing.

I know this isn't the most useful, but here's what I was thinking as I caught up:

: I don't like the way ika just throws shit around. Bleh... could be town though

: "I have had a bad expeince with ppl makign cases and have them flipping towns and then follow them again." I can deal with the terrible spelling and grammar (although I wish I didn't have to), but I have no fucking idea what you're trying to say here.

: this sounds a lot like the case I made earlier, except with quote walls.

& : I agree, except about ika.

: So saying anything with confidence is a scumtell?

: Hard to put my finger on, but bjc sounds so submissive all the time, feels bad to me.

: "if i die due to nk. Plz look into nacho/teirshift as scums" wtf is this? Why would anyone nk you? Don't like.

: Whaaat? No.

: Abbott never quite makes my radar ping either way. Everything he does seems reasonable, but kinda bland or something.

: "if i end up dying" This again. Someone who knows what's up, is constantly saying you'll get night-killed a scum tell? Cause I'm thinking it is.

: Oh man, I went from town vibes to scum partner. That's what I get for being AFK I guess.


UP TO DATE READS

TOWN
Nachomamma - I agree with almost every post from him that isn't about ika
lynch me bro - newbtown all the way
RayFrost - I like your ability to write in complete paragraphs
Abbott - null still
tiershift - aggressively townreading me, not sure if this is a test
ika - badfeels
bjc - probably scum
Rob W - The real test will be if we get him to L-1
SCUM

bjc and Rob are tied for last, I am fine with lynching either. I will put some more thoughtful posts together in a bit.

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:53 pm
by bjc
I'm just dying to hear why I'm probably scum.

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 3:55 pm
by bjc
In post 404, AbboTT wrote:
In post 403, bjc wrote:It just doesn't seem logical to lynch someone that actively posts content in a mafia game on day one over someone who hasn't done anything, won't be replaced, and may/may not be scum
He's got a point here...
And why haven't you unvoted if you feel my point is valid?

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:35 pm
by ika
ok i came back and to see hes still looming l-1

dooes anyone else find it odd how non else had intention to hammer yet?

also i got an activity for everyone do a read list, however it mmust have the following constraints

3 people must be pegged as scum no more no less
at least 1 person must be pegged as town
the rest can any flavor or read
you must not give any reasoning for you reads.
you are not to question any of the reads anyone gives untill a fair amount of people give them (lets make it like 6-7 ppl)
ic/se must be part of this

think of this as an activity for dicussion.


im gonna adress a few post first and then do this. if you refuse to i will consider it anti-town and scummy.

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:38 pm
by Wagon Me Pal
In post 369, bjc wrote:Look, if you guys are eager to lynch someone now, then lynch Rob holy hell. He isn't posting crap but just enough to stay in the game. There is probably scum on my wagon.
Getting scared bro? That just confirms my read on bcj. Obvious scum escaping his lynch by attempting to convince us to inactive lynch Rob.

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:49 pm
by ika
In post 407, emeraldemon wrote:Sorry for being gone so long, signing up for three games simultaneously was a mistake but I'm still going to try to win this thing.

I know this isn't the most useful, but here's what I was thinking as I caught up:

: I don't like the way ika just throws shit around. Bleh... could be town though

that is more of a gut feeling, however after work (where i tend to think and reflect on my games im in, made me rethink it)


: "I have had a bad experience with ppl makign cases and have them flipping towns and then follow them again." I can deal with the terrible spelling and grammar (although I wish I didn't have to), but I have no fucking idea what you're trying to say here.

clairfication: on my home site, many times i would sheep cases that people has made on others, and many times they would flip town. come the end of the game, the person who made all those cases were scums. so it leaves a sour taste to me

as for grammar, im kinda lazy with it. its more of a quirk i have. i do try to fix it for the most part but capitalization and stuff i kinda ignore.


: this sounds a lot like the case I made earlier, except with quote walls.

& : I agree, except about ika.

: So saying anything with confidence is a scumtell?

theres a difference between saying with confidence, and saying with knowing. Allow me to clarify.

The way i am reading it is nacho is scum, and in this game the scums know each other, therefore it is easy for them to say "person is town" because they KNOW, a thing i look for is how quickly and why do they slot people town. Nacho seems to be slotting town people as town because he knows it not just thinks it


: Hard to put my finger on, but bjc sounds so submissive all the time, feels bad to me.

to me, it feels like its town who is undecided and doesnt want to screw up, however it could be scum as well. i think its the former though.


: "if i die due to nk. Plz look into nacho/teirshift as scums" wtf is this? Why would anyone nk you? Don't like.

well i am town, and scums goal is to eliminate town, if i die to nk it could be because i am onto something. An impotrant thing to look at is when someon gets nk, one of the first questions to ask is "why were they nked" for me this could be a reason, i thinki found the scum team so they will want to take me out. However this is also be dubbed a WIFOM trick.


: Whaaat? No.

: Abbott never quite makes my radar ping either way. Everything he does seems reasonable, but kinda bland or something.

thank you for point that post out, theres something im gonna point out that i would want more exclamation on and is very scummy to me


: "if i end up dying" This again. Someone who knows what's up, is constantly saying you'll get night-killed a scum tell? Cause I'm thinking it is.

It can be, however as said earlier it can also be a WIFOM for survival. It has many reasons behind it, mines is to say if i do this is what i want you guys to look into as my final request.


: Oh man, I went from town vibes to scum partner. That's what I get for being AFK I guess.

Im slightly confused what you mean by that elaborate please?


UP TO DATE READS

TOWN
Nachomamma - I agree with almost every post from him that isn't about ika
lynch me bro - newbtown all the way
RayFrost - I like your ability to write in complete paragraphs
Abbott - null still
tiershift - aggressively townreading me, not sure if this is a test
ika - badfeels
bjc - probably scum
Rob W - The real test will be if we get him to L-1
SCUM

bjc and Rob are tied for last, I am fine with lynching either. I will put some more thoughtful posts together in a bit.

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:50 pm
by ika
In post 411, Wagon Me Pal wrote:
In post 369, bjc wrote:Look, if you guys are eager to lynch someone now, then lynch Rob holy hell. He isn't posting crap but just enough to stay in the game. There is probably scum on my wagon.
Getting scared bro? That just confirms my read on bcj. Obvious scum escaping his lynch by attempting to convince us to inactive lynch Rob.
no hes rather calm imo, hes being annoyed though. its possible but theres something i want to point out in someones post

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:55 pm
by ika
In post 355, AbboTT wrote:Alright. Rob clearly isn't going to be pressured, so that vote is useless until we make a decision about lynching him.

UNVOTE:

I'm comfortable putting bjc at L-1. His self-proclaimed "go with the flow" attitude towards D1 doesn't mesh well with my ideal townie profile. I do like that he isn't actively over-defending himself, but I'm starting to read that as scum playing it cool.


All in all, I think he's a solid choice. We will learn a thing as a vote count analysis and some ISOing should yield good info on D2 regardless of his flip.

My mind could be changed for a Rob lynch if anybody is down for that.

VOTE: bcj

I bolded the part that i find rather disturbing, no im going to break it down.
I'm comfortable putting bjc at L-1.
what makes you so comfortable making him l-1? a person shouldnt hesitate to put someone l-1 unless they know they are not going to be ninja hammered or are scum.
His self-proclaimed "go with the flow" attitude towards D1 doesn't mesh well with my ideal townie profile.
so its not an ideal townie but you are willing to risk it anyway?
I do like that he isn't actively over-defending himself, but I'm starting to read that as scum playing it cool.
is it me or does this contradict the last sentence quoted? I could see scum playing cool. But this statement seems to contradict the entirety of putting him at l-1 and all your reasoning.

VOTE: abbott

im more intrested in you right now. my nacho case doesnt seems to be going anywhere atm so i might as well go to new grounds

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 6:58 pm
by ika
now for the reads

also, you must exclude yourself on the reads


bjc - null
TierShift - scum
Rob W - null
Lynch Me Bro - noob-town
emeraldemon 1 - null-town
RayFrost (SE) - null-town
AbboTT (SE) - scum
Nachomamma8 (IC)- scum

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:14 pm
by AbboTT
@ika: that was such incredibly weak sauce.

I don't know that there's any part of that loaded mess of questions I can begin to answer.

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:35 pm
by ika
In post 416, AbboTT wrote:@ika: that was such incredibly weak sauce.

I don't know that there's any part of that loaded mess of questions I can begin to answer.
start with "what makes you so comfortable making him l-1?"

right now your post just seems like OMGUS. im more then happy to be proven wrong. but im just kinda going on gut right now.

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:36 pm
by ika
i would want bjc to claim though. its rather disturbing that hes l-1 and has not claimed

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:37 pm
by ika
In post 409, bjc wrote:
In post 404, AbboTT wrote:
In post 403, bjc wrote:It just doesn't seem logical to lynch someone that actively posts content in a mafia game on day one over someone who hasn't done anything, won't be replaced, and may/may not be scum
He's got a point here...
And why haven't you unvoted if you feel my point is valid?
also this.

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:49 pm
by AbboTT
The sentence you quoted? The following two after that one answer your question. That paragraph goes: Conclusion. Supporting reason 1. Supporting reason 2.

As to my vote... I already explained that I'm willing to lynch Rob. I'll move my vote that way if that's what we decide to do.

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 7:51 pm
by AbboTT
@ika: I like your reads list idea. I have to sign out for the night though. I will play along tomorrow though.

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:20 pm
by RayFrost
Mother of god, waking up at 4 in the afternoon because I'm sick as a dog and took the day off to find a posting explosion.

Going to leave my vote on rob, I do not have intent to hammer as of right now due to the fact that we have so much more to discuss. We've got time, no need to rush the lynch.

I am not really a fan of reasonless reads posts, but I guess I'll do it to satisfy ika. It will be done via a spectrum: the closer they are to the word, the stronger I read them as that.

Town
Nacho
Ika
-------- (space to show distance)
Abott
Tiershift
Lyme
--------
Emerald
Rob bjc
Scum

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:26 pm
by ika
In post 422, RayFrost wrote:Mother of god, waking up at 4 in the afternoon because I'm sick as a dog and took the day off to find a posting explosion.

Going to leave my vote on rob, I do not have intent to hammer as of right now due to the fact that we have so much more to discuss. We've got time, no need to rush the lynch.

I am not really a fan of reasonless reads posts, but I guess I'll do it to satisfy ika. It will be done via a spectrum: the closer they are to the word, the stronger I read them as that.

Town
Nacho
Ika
-------- (space to show distance)
Abott
Tiershift
Lyme
--------
Emerald
Rob bjc
Scum

we will get to that later. just bear with me atm with this reasonless thing

Posted: Sun Jan 26, 2014 8:35 pm
by RayFrost
I already feel that I know what you're going for, which is why I did it despite my distaste.