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In post 397, macmollie wrote:I think there is a distinct fundamental difference between us and I think this convo is helping me pin it down!

"It's ffery's fault I'm not posting" <----implies blame and that is not what I am doing I am pretty sure I haven't even hinted at that! but you go there. you so go there.

I hate having to walk eggshells around you but the truth of the matter is that I

do

. but there is no "fault" for the quantity of my posts.

and no your posts and stances have not sunk in yet so no read.

I go there because there has been plenty of blame in other games. And I don't feel like there's any justification for blame in this one.

You didn't answer my question.

In post 389, ActionDan wrote:Lyrics: David Zippel


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Let's get down to business - to defeat the Huns
Did they send me daughters when I asked for brothers?
You're the saddest bunch I've ever met
But you can bet before we're through
Mister, I'll make a man out of you

Tranquil as a forest
But on fire within
Once you find your center
You are sure to win
You're a spineless, pale pathetic lot
And you haven't got a clue
Somehow I'll make a man out of you

I'm never gonna catch my breath
Say goodbye to those who knew me
Boy, was I a fool in school for cutting gym
This guy's got 'em scared to death
Hope he doesn't see right through me
Now I really wish that I knew how to swim

Be a man
We must be swift as the coursing river
Be a man
With all the force of a great typhoon
Be a man
With all the strength of a raging fire
Mysterious as the dark side of the moon

Time is racing toward us till the Huns arrive
Heed my every order and you might survive
You're unsuited for the rage of war
So pack up, go home you're through
How could I make a man out of you?

I expect a reply.

You must do it in song

no 1 is talking about blaming in this game but you

it is why I am confused. I am not engaging with you cos you get all meltydowny for weird reasons that I do not understand. so I am pursuing other avenues and trying to work things out. I have my town reads

I am thinking you are town cos as scum you wouldn't want to get confrontational.

You still haven't answered my question.

Will my saying "I'm town" actually set your mind at ease?

is this the question you are referring to?

mebbe

In post 399, Venmar wrote::/

Who is then?

My "reasonably strong scumreads" category currently consists of mastin.

But there are a of players who haven't posted enough for me to get a read on them yet, including you.

In post 405, macmollie wrote:

Will my saying "I'm town" actually set your mind at ease?

is this the question you are referring to?

mebbe

Well then. I'm town as fuck.

<3

then we won't have a problem

sangres Jan 26, 10:47pm Jan 28, 10:53pm 0 days 0 hours 49
Cabd Jan 27, 01:29am Jan 28, 04:31am 0 days 18 hours 46

How is it that none of these posts are memorable

In post 400, borkjerfkin wrote:

Votecount 1.5 (No Change)

[7] mastin2 (Angry Frat Bros)

In post 408, macmollie wrote:<3

then we won't have a problem

This and the entire preceding exchange makes me uneasy.

I suspect it should

In post 176, mastin2 wrote:Venmar (sixth on the wagon) is prob-town.

I wasn't on the wagon?

In post 410, ActionDan wrote:

In post 400, borkjerfkin wrote:

Votecount 1.5 (No Change)

[7] mastin2 (Angry Frat Bros)

there isn't a problem lol

In post 356, Angry Frat BROs wrote:

In post 354, sangres wrote:I'm not commenting at all on pieguyn yet. As for Mastin, I mostly want to see what Nacho thinks right now.

Oh mastin is town as fuck.

explain plz?

weren't you the one who said that objectively bad play from a good player is a decent scumtell (correct me if I'm wrong)? bc that's exactly what's happening here with mastin. he's declaring reads that make no sense and declaring a lynch pool 24 hrs into the game despite apparently not being confident in his reads and/or thinking they might be really off

also explain your scumread on me plz

In post 363, Kazekirimaru wrote:Are you self-metaing?

And I see where you're going with this. I dislike it.

no, I'm wondering how the hell Cabd is going about his read on me. it doesn't make any sense. the last time we played (AA:MFA) he correctly read me via meta, so I wanna know why he's taking this approach here instead. what do you think?

In post 369, mastin2 wrote:But basically, that post boiled down is insisting that there's a contradiction between me feeling awesome about my reads and having confidence in them, and me knowing that I'm likely wrong and said confidence will later waver. When, bluntly, there isn't; the two are entirely separate things.

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?

there was more to it than that and you know it. the problem is how, DESPITE knowing you're likely wrong, you make no mention of this whatsoever, and instead DECLARE A LYNCH POOL 24 HOURS INTO THE GAME. whereas a town you would take extra care to make sure everyone knows your reads might be all wrong, explicitly because there's a good chance they're all wrong. you have said before that town wins by maintaining a high level of transparency and a high flow of information. and your actions in imperishable night where you waffled for all of D1 REINFORCE this. here, there is no transparency and you are trying to force your reads down people's throats, despite apparently thinking they might all be wrong

and now you completely ignore my case on you, and proceed to misrep the fuck out of it? you're trying to cover up my case on you like it never even happened

In post 372, Skullduggery wrote:How and why are Scum more aware of Town-aligned Super Saints? More aware than whom?

scum are aware of super-saints bc if they get hit by one they're down a member out of nowhere. whereas town generally loses a lot less from suddenly losing one extra member

In post 382, Cephrir wrote:I honestly think mastin has just decided he's going to blatantly ignore all my posts and hope no one cares. Usually this is the sort of thing I would say scum would never be ballsy enough to actually do, but he keeps using the same fucking points while completely ignoring that I've pointed out they are illogical (specifically the people whose alignments he keeps insisting hinge on my alignment for no reason).

I made a separate post for this because I'm starting to wonder if anyone is reading my walls.

THIS X 2983479523498198978

if you're WK'ing me I'm just ogingto cry

In post 335, zMuffinMan wrote:ffery,

do you think you can read pieguy? what do you think of his posts so far?

i think he's really shit at imitating his town game and he doesn't quite know what to say to me. all his responses to my suspicion of him have felt unnatural

this is scummy as fuck. ffery has already said that zmuffin usually doesn't reach out to her like this. so what's the real purpose of this post?

this is a calculated appeal to ffery to get her on his side for a mislynch on me down the road. zmuffin KNOWS that ffery gets suspicious of me bc my posts come across as forced or unnatural a lot. and he also knows that ffery and I work together a lot. he is appealing to this angle to play up paranoia about me and manipulate her into siding against me

it also conveniently came at a time of day where I'm usually not online, but close to when ffery gets online. although this is speculation and might not mean anything

then, when I called him on it 341, we get this

In post 348, zMuffinMan wrote:

In post 341, pieguyn wrote:I am scum, look at my scum-post

nothing you said here looks town

i don't believe you actually think those are good reasons to think i'm scum, and i don't believe you'd be that confident about it

I reached out to him to help him fix his read on me and he completely shut me down instead of trying to explore my lines of thought. in other words, his plan failed so he's packing up and going back to his QT to hide

pieguy still not town

In post 412, Cephrir wrote:I suspect it should

Aye. So, you agree?

In post 416, pieguyn wrote:no, I'm wondering how the hell Cabd is going about his read on me. it doesn't make any sense. the last time we played (AA:MFA) he correctly read me via meta, so I wanna know why he's taking this approach here instead. what do you think?

I think I don't know how Cabd thinks.

But the angle I see you sliding towards - "He's a meta player and reading me as scum so he must be scum" - isn't a good spot to be, in my opinion.

are you trolling muffina

Pie guy made long posts. Must be town.


Tbh I read him town and have no idea why others scumread him which h is confusing

Post #416 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:44 pm

Post #417 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:44 pm

you should have spaced this out by like at least 5 minutes, pie

rookie scum mistake

mollie wrote:are you trolling muffina

i never troll

pieguy is scum

i could break it down and explain exactly why but not right now

do you have much experience playing with pieguy?

In post 419, Kazekirimaru wrote:

In post 412, Cephrir wrote:I suspect it should

Aye. So, you agree?

I'm inclined to, but I'm not going to push there yet.

In post 422, zMuffinMan wrote:Post #416 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:44 pm

Post #417 (ISO) » Wed Jan 29, 2014 2:44 pm

you should have spaced this out by like at least 5 minutes, pie

rookie scum mistake

mollie wrote:are you trolling muffina

i never troll

pieguy is scum

i could break it down and explain exactly why but not right now

do you have much experience playing with pieguy?

You're kidding right