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Post Post #400 (ISO) » Thu Dec 07, 2006 3:39 pm

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Officially starting a search for a Falcone replacement. He apparently hasn't even seen the prods at this point.

Edit: CrashTextDummie is replacing Falcone.

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Post Post #401 (ISO) » Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:45 am

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Hello CrashTextFalcone. We're mass claiming-- and we're waiting for you to fully claim.
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Post Post #402 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:13 am

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/waits for CrashTextFalcone
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Post Post #403 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:32 am

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Also waiting for CrashTextFalcone. Not much for me to do except to chew cud while we wait.
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Post Post #404 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2006 3:14 pm

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Sorry for keeping everyone waiting.

I'm a pig, backup cop/doc. I took Lowell's role on N1 and used it to protect Fletcher on both following nights (credits to Falcone).

My thoughts after an initial readthrough:
There's no doubt in my mind that MBF and klebian are town. I know that there's a cop, and we all know that there's a second mason. This means that the scum is hiding amongst Thok, Kilmenator and Bogre.

I am most worried about Kilmenator, as she has the weakest claim. Seeing as there's a lot of power distributed amongst the town, it's safe to assume that scum have some powers of their own. Roleblocker is a classic scumrole, and it's even more dangerous in the hands of scum thanks to the massclaim.

Other things that make me believe her to be scum:
- she was quite vote-shy all game long, but seemingly made it a point to place her vote early (first on klebian, then on Falcone/me) now that we are in lynch or lose
- was very eager to claim (I'll come back to this in a sec)
- didn't want Pablito to prove his power
- in Post 380, she listed 3 people she found scummy, including Klebian, the mason. The one person she didn't comment on, and apparantly didn't find scummy at all is Thok (she later said she finds him pretty pro-town). I find this odd, given that Thok's predecessor was a complete no-show and he himself has done little more than suggesting a massclaim and fishing for info.

To expand on this, I find a Kilmenator/Thok pair most likely at this point. As far as I'm concerned, the massclaim he instigated has been of little use for the town, but did a good job of helping scum map out good and bad targets for the following nights,
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if Kilmenator is one of them. He insisted that massclaiming might win the game today as opposed to no-lynching, which makes me wonder what exactly he expected out of it, seeing as he claimed vanilla.
It should be noted that Thok and Kilmenator couldn't have planned the massclaim together if they're scum, because he replaced during day. On the other hand, why would Kilmenator be so quick to act on a thought from a player she has seen only 2 posts of (+3, if you count Colonel Kurtz's)?

As for Bogre, I got a townie vibe from his involvement in the pablito-wagon and his reaction to his claim. Apart from that, he wasn't very visible, and if he's scum, he's done a great job at not leaving any ties with his buddies. His claim makes sense, but then again, so did pablito's (while it lasted).

Concerning today's lynch:
No lynch is the safe way, but it has the distinct possibility of not giving us any useful information tomorrow if kilmenator is scum. And even if I'm wrong about her, who knows what powers the other two are hiding. But be that as it may, it won't lose us the game.

It's either no lynch or Kilmenator, IMO.
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Post Post #405 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2006 3:35 pm

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CrashTextDummie wrote:To expand on this, I find a Kilmenator/Thok pair most likely at this point. As far as I'm concerned, the massclaim he instigated has been of little use for the town, but did a good job of helping scum map out good and bad targets for the following nights,
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I was expecting that the combination of cop investigations/mason claim would help town, which I believe it has. Recall at the start of today one of our confirmed innocents was going hardcore against the other confirmed innocent.

Your defense of Bogre is noted. Didn't it bother you at all that he's claimed a donkey, which fits in naturally with a goat as a likely mafia?

That said, I do feel better about you/Falcone given your most recent post.
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Post Post #406 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2006 3:43 pm

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Actually, now I'm curious what you see good about Bogre on the pablito wagon. I see (essentially) a fourth vote on a wagon that had suddenly caught a lot of speed against a guy that was an obvious person to bus, followed but by little to no discussion of pablito after the initial vote.
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Post Post #407 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2006 5:37 pm

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here are my thoughts what they are worth...
Not buying the claim of CTD, sorry guys... in my eyes, it is either CTD (Falcone), or Bogre, both whose claims are a little out there... being we have scum less, i am assuming two... knowing there is a role blocker, was a doc, 2 masons, a cop, 2-3 scum, i would bet that would be all the power roles left being that is 8 out of 12. i am not buying the claim. still sticking to a falcone/bogre pair.

are we in a lynch or lose situation? because if we are then i would say no lynch, and would plan on blocking and pray that i block properly to save MBF. but being that i am not buying CTD's claim of protecting powers, i think it would be smart to give innocents as MBF would be the most likely target tonight.

ahh... and another thought... if we do a no lynch and i did block correctly that would allow CTD to say he healed and that i didnt block... IMO if we lynch today it will be CTD or myself.
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Post Post #408 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:05 pm

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CTD, since our doc is dead, does that mean that you are the doctor now?
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Post Post #409 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:52 pm

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"I'm a pig, backup cop/doc.
I took Lowell's role on N1
and used it to protect Fletcher on both following nights (credits to Falcone). "

That means yes. Mike, can you tell us your investigations now?
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Post Post #410 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:02 pm

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Just as an observation, nobody's claimed to be a horse, which I find surprising for a Ranch-themed mafia.
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Post Post #411 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:03 pm

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Although I guess MBF hasn't claimed his flavor yet.
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Post Post #412 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:08 pm

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Ah, excellent. As for myself,

N1: Investigated C Kurtz (currently Thok) and received an innocent result.
N2: No investigation choice was made.
N3: Investigated kilmenator and received an innocent result.

This leaves Bogre, klebian, and CrashTextDum/Falcone as the remaining scum. Since CTD has claimed to be a doc, this should go very smoothly. Forfeit today's lynch. He will protect me while I will investigate once more. Tomorrow we should be at a nice FIVE players, with THREE investigation results. If I die, then we know CTD is lying. If one of the two that I have investigated dies, then we know that I am sane. If CTD dies, then I will have three investigation results and be able to tell if I am sane or not.

VOTE: NO LYNCH


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Post Post #413 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:16 pm

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Curious. I will go along with this plan, and I'll vote no lynch if we decide to go this way. No vote from me until we get everybody to agree.

The only thought I have is that I find it hard to believe that a pig could be a generic back up to two humans. I mean, I shouldn't try to outguess the mod, but it seems weird flavorwise.
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Post Post #414 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:18 pm

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Right, since klebian claimed mason I've pretty much jumped to the conclusion that Bogre-CTD are the scum. But I'll find out for certain tomorrow.
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Post Post #415 (ISO) » Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:36 pm

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Fair enough.

I'm tempted to offer CTD-Bogre a chance to resign (assuming something weird isn't happening).
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Post Post #416 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:31 am

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the only option you didnt really think of was wether or not you made it through the night... if CTD is not what he says then i would assume you wont make it through the night.
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Post Post #417 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:32 am

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If I die, then we know CTD is lying.


Yes I did.
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Post Post #418 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2006 6:38 am

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yep, i just wanted to bring that out, so CTD should make sure that he protects you tonight, if someonen else dies then that isnt as big of a deal as if you died, i would also suggest you investigating CTD... but that is just my opinion.
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Post Post #419 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:38 pm

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what's the point of investigating ctd? If mike dies, we know ctd is guilty. If ctd dies, we know he's innocent, and that'd be a waste of an investigation. If someone else dies, we'll have sufficient investigations. I recommend investigating bogre.
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Post Post #420 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:38 pm

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Oh, and, btw, about pig being backup to humans, that could have something to do with the book animal farm.
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Post Post #421 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2006 5:53 pm

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If there's a pig reference to Animal Farm, I wouldn't expect that pig to be protown.
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Post Post #422 (ISO) » Sun Dec 10, 2006 8:38 pm

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yeah, well, then the humans wouldn't be either. never mind.
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Post Post #423 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:39 am

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I could be naive. We'll see. But first, we need to go into night. I'd like to hurry it along so I can win and replace into another game please.
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Post Post #424 (ISO) » Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:03 am

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We're just waiting on CTD to confirm his part of the plan, right? (I guess Bogre should say something also).
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