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I hate shanba's flavor, and i don't like her claim but I can't see Amelia having been the SK :/.
Adele, I really don't like the fact that you have no list of targets to provide us. It weakens your claim incredibly for me. However, I want to know, will your role count the SK as scum for all intents and purposes?
I also don't like theo's vanilla claim
Adele, I really don't like the fact that you have no list of targets to provide us. It weakens your claim incredibly for me. However, I want to know, will your role count the SK as scum for all intents and purposes?
I also don't like theo's vanilla claim
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I have a plan: ( Adele is killed when she hides with SK, right? do we know that?)
1. Adele says who she picks to hide with.
2. we all quickly vote nolynch
3a. If Adele is dead during the day we know who the SK is !
3b. If Adele is all right she quickly picks another target and before Sk strikes we all vote nolynch
... repeat. (there is no mafia left, each DAY we sleep safely. It's nights we need to be affraid)
the additionall benefit is each night I will look for work and maybe my ability will give us extra information.
That's why I've been interested how DELAYED sk works.
(oh, and if I were Sk I will definitely not be shareing this plan with you.)
1. Adele says who she picks to hide with.
2. we all quickly vote nolynch
3a. If Adele is dead during the day we know who the SK is !
3b. If Adele is all right she quickly picks another target and before Sk strikes we all vote nolynch
... repeat. (there is no mafia left, each DAY we sleep safely. It's nights we need to be affraid)
the additionall benefit is each night I will look for work and maybe my ability will give us extra information.
That's why I've been interested how DELAYED sk works.
(oh, and if I were Sk I will definitely not be shareing this plan with you.)
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Unless you knew you could tell the mod to daykill someone in the opening scene. Or if the mod gets a pm from the SK dated earlier than the lynch it backdates and the daykill goes through instead.Totem wrote:I have a plan: ( Adele is killed when she hides with SK, right? do we know that?)
1. Adele says who she picks to hide with.
2. we all quickly vote nolynch
3a. If Adele is dead during the day we know who the SK is !
3b. If Adele is all right she quickly picks another target and before Sk strikes we all vote nolynch
... repeat. (there is no mafia left, each DAY we sleep safely. It's nights we need to be affraid)
the additionall benefit is each night I will look for work and maybe my ability will give us extra information.
That's why I've been interested how DELAYED sk works.
(oh, and if I were Sk I will definitely not be shareing this plan with you.)
Even if neither of those are true, it sounds like you're betting the house on whether the SK is in the mod's timezone, or reacts quicker than the median player.
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Was this game (using Mariyta's terms)
Day-Start or Night-Start??
In Day-Start, we'd have had a D0.
Does anyone remember?
Adele, why won't you answer my questions?
Totem isn't the day SK, I did block him that night. Shanba is probably not the day SK, her flavor is real, as is several other roles in this game (Bambi Darlin, Candi Kane, Jace Crispin - these are all real people. Janu Tornell was a real survivor candidate. And besides that, he's the only Doc.)I'm sure of this, sure enough to stake the game on it.
So this means it's Theopor or Adele.
Frankly, I think Adele is much, MUCH more likely.
But here's how we do it.
TONIGHT, Adele, you MUST target theo with your ability.
If theo dies today (from the SK), you will target Shanba.
If I die today, town, here's what you must do tomorrow:
If Adele dies, lynch theo. If no one dies, lynch Adele.
There is a problem with this plan, however. If Adele dies, then theo only must kill before we can lynch him tomorrow to win. So, honestly, It might be better to lynch today.
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Ok, Guys, on a hunch I did a crapload of flavor research on Myself, Theopor, and Shanba, Totem, and Adele.
It turns out our roles
Myself and Theo: Use find to find "Amelia" and then "Tammi": http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/ ... 71424.html
We are both showgirls that had a reality TV show done on us.
Totem: Cristal Conners is a character from the movie Showgirls, and works at a place called Stardust (check google for Cristal Stardust if you need confirmation)
Shanba: Janu Tornell was a survivor contestant who left the game. (check Wikipedia for confirmation)
Adele: Adele, I could not find any mention of a Julie who was a member of Jubilee. This makes me think you made that flavor up. And that makes me think you're the SK.
I retract my earlier statements, we need to lynch today, as we have the same odds as we will tomorrow. I think that lynch needs to be Adele.
I remind you, the SK will likely kill one of us. If that is the case, the other three of you MUST come to unanimous agreement for a lynch.
Day-Start or Night-Start??
In Day-Start, we'd have had a D0.
Does anyone remember?
Adele, why won't you answer my questions?
Totem isn't the day SK, I did block him that night. Shanba is probably not the day SK, her flavor is real, as is several other roles in this game (Bambi Darlin, Candi Kane, Jace Crispin - these are all real people. Janu Tornell was a real survivor candidate. And besides that, he's the only Doc.)I'm sure of this, sure enough to stake the game on it.
So this means it's Theopor or Adele.
Frankly, I think Adele is much, MUCH more likely.
But here's how we do it.
TONIGHT, Adele, you MUST target theo with your ability.
If theo dies today (from the SK), you will target Shanba.
If I die today, town, here's what you must do tomorrow:
If Adele dies, lynch theo. If no one dies, lynch Adele.
There is a problem with this plan, however. If Adele dies, then theo only must kill before we can lynch him tomorrow to win. So, honestly, It might be better to lynch today.
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Ok, Guys, on a hunch I did a crapload of flavor research on Myself, Theopor, and Shanba, Totem, and Adele.
It turns out our roles
are
based off of real people... or at least real characters.Myself and Theo: Use find to find "Amelia" and then "Tammi": http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/ ... 71424.html
We are both showgirls that had a reality TV show done on us.
Totem: Cristal Conners is a character from the movie Showgirls, and works at a place called Stardust (check google for Cristal Stardust if you need confirmation)
Shanba: Janu Tornell was a survivor contestant who left the game. (check Wikipedia for confirmation)
Adele: Adele, I could not find any mention of a Julie who was a member of Jubilee. This makes me think you made that flavor up. And that makes me think you're the SK.
I retract my earlier statements, we need to lynch today, as we have the same odds as we will tomorrow. I think that lynch needs to be Adele.
I remind you, the SK will likely kill one of us. If that is the case, the other three of you MUST come to unanimous agreement for a lynch.
Vote: Adele
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Piece of a nice work there Timmy.
I agree and will follow with vote on Adele. On thing I don't like is, that she claimed to be from the same hotel that the person claiming right before her. She is the only person in the whole game that does that.
If we fail I will look for job with Shanba, If she is doc maybe I will turn nurse.
I think Timmy shouldn't block because he is not able to block SK
I agree and will follow with vote on Adele. On thing I don't like is, that she claimed to be from the same hotel that the person claiming right before her. She is the only person in the whole game that does that.
If we fail I will look for job with Shanba, If she is doc maybe I will turn nurse.
I think Timmy shouldn't block because he is not able to block SK
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Ho hum. Timmy's case is interesting, but I'm wary of voting based on flavour alone. Timmy, I notice earlier you said that Adele has shown a lot of tells. Could you list them for me? I looked through her posts and couldn't see much that was particularly scummy.
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Yes, actually, I'd ask the same.Shanba wrote:Ho hum. Timmy's case is interesting, but I'm wary of voting based on flavour alone. Timmy, I notice earlier you said that Adele has shown a lot of tells. Could you list them for me?
Oh wait. I did.
Now then.Adele, post 337, March 9th, wrote:Such as?ubertimmy wrote:Adele in particular has shown a lot of tells.
Erm, what questions? Whether I'll die if I hide with the SK (yes)? What else? Which did I miss?ubertimmy wrote:Adele, why won't you answer my questions?
[quotew="ubertimmy"]Shanba is probably not the day SK, her flavor is real,[/quote]Distrusting someone becuase of their claim is sometimes okay. Trusting someone because their claim "makes sense" is a very foolish move. Myself, I find Shanba's claim singularly unconvincing - but then I've never seen this surivior show, as I'm British.
Becauseubertimmy wrote:I'm sure of this, sure enough to stake the game on it.
So this means it's Theopor or Adele.
you're
sure enough, we're
meant to be, too? And, um remind me - when were you cleared exactly?At this point, I have no intention of doing so.ubertimmy wrote:TONIGHT, Adele, you MUST target theo with your ability.
Because your plan bites.
It assumes that you are town, that Shanba's town, and that theo isn't an SK that can put through an immedi-kill.
It bites, dude.
And I think you know it.
I think ubertimmy is the SK. I never did any research into everybodies' claims because I didn't have to make a claim up. I imagine once I've researched the matter as fully as ubertimmy has ("on a hunch"), I'll find some Julie connected to Jubilee, but I don't have ten hours to throw down the pan this week. If and when I do, I'll see if I can find out who Fluff, Laine and Candi Kane are, too.
Oh, and Totem, I'm in the same
show
as Amelia - if
that claim's even true.btw, everybody, my LOS:
ubertimmy - 66% and rising with every desperate and illogical attack
totem - 20% - enough that I'm not ready to vote for ubertimmy - yet.
Shanba - 10%. It's unlikely from my POV atm.
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But he is confirmed roleblocker.Adele wrote:I think ubertimmy is the SK.
And that is extremely odd to me.Adele wrote:I'm in the same show as Amelia
Just to be sure .. Timmy, does your roleblocking have any constant flavor or method. How exactly do you block? what your role suggests
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Yes, I'm the SK, despite being CONFIRMED ROLEBLOCKER
Besides the fact that on Night 1...
Besides that fact, Totem knows he was blocked D1 (counting the first day as D0), and because SJ is dead, and no one has claimed blocker but ME, it was ME who blocked him. Unless me and Totem are a Day-Mafia, is that what you're saying? That's why I'm confirmed.
"Desperate and illogical attack" irony lol.
As a matter of fact, Adele, I did my research in less than 15 minutes, Using GOOGLE SEARCH, and found my results on the FIRST PAGE of each search. These things are NOT hard to find.
I distract them with magic, Totem, because I am a magician's assistant.
And, Adele, you're in the same show AS ME. Not amelia, ME. But of course, I stole that from you because I made my claim up. Despite the fact
This is scum trying to make me back down by launching an aggressive attack on my character. I've let this stop me before, I won't now. And here, Adele, let me help you out:
Fluff: http://www.reviewjournal.com/bestoflv/2 ... HKFBGPJEGC
(first result on google for Fluff Showgirl)
Laine: http://www.oncewritten.com/ReviewTitle. ... WhoLovedMe
(first result for Laine Showgirl)
Candi Kane (and Bambi Darlin): http://www.chessville.com/misc/QueenWinsOscar.htm
(first result for Candi Kane Showgirl)
That took me about 3 minutes.
I'll write up the complete list of tells later, but for now, here's a partial list
There're more, but I don't have time.
Besides the fact that on Night 1...
ubertimmy wrote:Confirm Vote: Sailor Jerry
Confirm Vote: Sailor Jerry
Confirm Vote: Sailor Jerry
That's bullshit.
ubertimmy wrote:unvote, vote: sailor jerryfirst actually >_>
There was a reason I did this. Because he claimed MY ROLE.ubertimmy wrote:I'm totally serious by the way. Sailor JerryIStoday's lynch.
Besides that fact, Totem knows he was blocked D1 (counting the first day as D0), and because SJ is dead, and no one has claimed blocker but ME, it was ME who blocked him. Unless me and Totem are a Day-Mafia, is that what you're saying? That's why I'm confirmed.
"Desperate and illogical attack" irony lol.
As a matter of fact, Adele, I did my research in less than 15 minutes, Using GOOGLE SEARCH, and found my results on the FIRST PAGE of each search. These things are NOT hard to find.
I distract them with magic, Totem, because I am a magician's assistant.
And, Adele, you're in the same show AS ME. Not amelia, ME. But of course, I stole that from you because I made my claim up. Despite the fact
I claimed before you
. DIRECTLY before you.This is scum trying to make me back down by launching an aggressive attack on my character. I've let this stop me before, I won't now. And here, Adele, let me help you out:
Fluff: http://www.reviewjournal.com/bestoflv/2 ... HKFBGPJEGC
(first result on google for Fluff Showgirl)
Laine: http://www.oncewritten.com/ReviewTitle. ... WhoLovedMe
(first result for Laine Showgirl)
Candi Kane (and Bambi Darlin): http://www.chessville.com/misc/QueenWinsOscar.htm
(first result for Candi Kane Showgirl)
That took me about 3 minutes.
I'll write up the complete list of tells later, but for now, here's a partial list
Yea, there's something, but let's just ignore it! Don't worry about it! Just let them go about their business!Adele wrote:It's either a day-killer or a time-delay NK. I don't think we can draw conclusions about it yet though. Let's play tight, not wander around in the murky mud of speculation just yet. Good play "day" 1 usually seems to be about digging away til someone acts scummy, and forcing everyone to make a call on that player, so there's patterns to look at later.Totem wrote:I am here.
Why somebody wanted to quickly kill Twito? And what kind of uber powerful role is this?
Hey guys, any of you able to detect that I'm scum???Adele wrote:Hmm. The wording of that suggests to me that there may possibly be a second cop, searching for a different quality. If so, that'd mean 2 partial-cops and 2 masons at least... plus, probably, a doc (since that's the only reason I can really see to throw in a mafia RB). It may, of course, be just 1 partial-cop, 2 masons and a doc.Mariyta wrote:Evilandy, Fluff,, shot Day 2gender cop
Either way, I think that's all the power roles that town's likely to get in a balanced game, so obviously doc shouldn't claim unless in dire peril, same goes for the mason... but if thereisa second cop, I think they'd be the SK-hunter. If they think they have viable info, then it's useful to the town and not too huge a sacrifice for that cop to come out (since the act'll make him essentially vanilla and he won't be a particular danger to the mafia). Of course, again, that's unlikely. So, I think there won't be any power claims today. That's my guess.
There're more, but I don't have time.
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In the first quoted portion, I'm saying that I think it's unwise to get bogged down in an unsettleable question day one, when we could, instead, be productive. Oh noes! How scummy for me to suggest something that makes perfect sense.
In the second, you'll note that I'm saying that if anyone can detect the SK, they either have the SK and can get that person lynched, or can't and should stay safe under the radar. Not everyone's necessarily familiar with partial cops. It's a useful summary of what's probably going on, and I'm, again, suggesting we get the game moving rather than wait around for a game that won't or shouldn't come.
So in fact, both of the "tells" you point to helped make those days (marginally) more effective scumhunting days.
Out of curiosity, is the "crapload" of research the same as the research that took "about 3 minutes"? You seem to be adjusting implied workload to suit your changing argument.
As far as "confirmed" goes... I'll have to reread and do some research. But let's not forget that SKs usually have perks; when someone acts as scummy as uber, I'm very very hesitant to give out some free cards. I've seen too many games lost because someone's "obviously" confirmed but
- that's the show Jubilee at the venue Ballys danced in by me, uber and theorpor, plus who knows how many of the dead players.
In the second, you'll note that I'm saying that if anyone can detect the SK, they either have the SK and can get that person lynched, or can't and should stay safe under the radar. Not everyone's necessarily familiar with partial cops. It's a useful summary of what's probably going on, and I'm, again, suggesting we get the game moving rather than wait around for a game that won't or shouldn't come.
So in fact, both of the "tells" you point to helped make those days (marginally) more effective scumhunting days.
Out of curiosity, is the "crapload" of research the same as the research that took "about 3 minutes"? You seem to be adjusting implied workload to suit your changing argument.
As far as "confirmed" goes... I'll have to reread and do some research. But let's not forget that SKs usually have perks; when someone acts as scummy as uber, I'm very very hesitant to give out some free cards. I've seen too many games lost because someone's "obviously" confirmed but
actually
evil (for example Buffy as an SK).Isn't amelia your nameclaim? So, yes, I'm in the same show that you, amelia, claimed. And, doing some research, it looks like the routine that Theorpor's in "At Ballys" is also probably Jubileeubes wrote:And, Adele, you're in the same show AS ME. Not amelia, ME.
- that's the show Jubilee at the venue Ballys danced in by me, uber and theorpor, plus who knows how many of the dead players.
Adele, no amount of rereading can help you here - I am CLEARLY confirmed. Unless you posess no logic whatsoever, you should be able to see that
a) Totem was blocked d1. Thus, there must have been a roleblocker alive d1.
b) Sailor Jerry was lynched n1, BEFORE d1. Thus, he was not alive d1, and did not block Totem.
c) I am the only other person who has a roleblocking ability.
Therefore, If I am lieing about being a roleblocker, then there is nobody who could have blocked Totem. Therefore, Totem is lieing, as well as I am. Therefore we are both scum? This doesn't work.
Thus, I must be telling the truth about being a roleblocker. THE END.
a) Totem was blocked d1. Thus, there must have been a roleblocker alive d1.
b) Sailor Jerry was lynched n1, BEFORE d1. Thus, he was not alive d1, and did not block Totem.
c) I am the only other person who has a roleblocking ability.
Therefore, If I am lieing about being a roleblocker, then there is nobody who could have blocked Totem. Therefore, Totem is lieing, as well as I am. Therefore we are both scum? This doesn't work.
Thus, I must be telling the truth about being a roleblocker. THE END.
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Guys,
I get massive warning bells on timmy all of the sudden.
Why, if he has DAY choice, he claims that there was day 0, day 1, day 3
From my point of view it was d1 d2 d3 ( and now it's n3 before d4)
Also, the blocking flavor somehow does not match.
And he is the one of two "Jubiliee" claims
Let me reread and see if he could guessed I was blocked. And fake his claim
I get massive warning bells on timmy all of the sudden.
Why, if he has DAY choice, he claims that there was day 0, day 1, day 3
From my point of view it was d1 d2 d3 ( and now it's n3 before d4)
Also, the blocking flavor somehow does not match.
And he is the one of two "Jubiliee" claims
Let me reread and see if he could guessed I was blocked. And fake his claim
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I think Adele or totem at this point. The thing I would say is, if UT was the SK, why would he call bs on SJ's claim? He couldnt know that SJ was anti town if he was the SK: pro town roleblockers are also pretty common, and putting himself out like that seems a very strange play for an SK to make.
Actually, I like Totem's last post. Dunno why, just get a good feeling from it. So I think Adele could well be the SK. But I dont like Theo's last post, a vote with no reasoning to put someone at -1 at this stage? Geh. I would like to know his thoughts on the issue, more than just a vote.
Actually, I like Totem's last post. Dunno why, just get a good feeling from it. So I think Adele could well be the SK. But I dont like Theo's last post, a vote with no reasoning to put someone at -1 at this stage? Geh. I would like to know his thoughts on the issue, more than just a vote.
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