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In post 397, bubbajack8 wrote:Ika how is Titus scummy?

consider it a mixture of guts and poilcy.

Day 1 was day 1 where im more carefree and just kind give reads wherever. Day 2 is where i am more inclined to look into stuff.

Titus and I have a history of playing aginst each other, I always hope shes town in games but i always have an irk that she might be scum.

Right now titus feels more passive in her abilites on scum hunting, so im trying to force her out of that passive state that irks me

p-edit: snork, why are you appealing to anti about ppl "ganing up" on you

I'm appealing to anti because I know he's a good player and I think he's town. I also have the highest respect for him of those on this playerlist. I'm asking him to look at those two so he can see for himself rather than me telling him what to look at.

In post 401, Guilty Gunsmith wrote:I'm appealing to anti because I know he's a good player and I think he's town. I also have the highest respect for him of those on this playerlist. I'm asking him to look at those two so he can see for himself rather than me telling him what to look at.

me. the site is being slow and shitty today.

Hmmmmm.
bubba is unsettling
Anti v Titus looks like a waste of time
Pants looks graspy
ika said

I already gave enough info on my plan. I'm not giving you more.

even though there was no info and probably also isn't a "plan."

In post 402, Snork wrote:the site is being slow and shitty today.

oh god so much whyyyyyyy

More when I can actually post without timing out every time.

In post 399, Snork wrote:

In post 391, Dr Pants wrote:theres 3 scum, because thats how almost every 13 person game is balanced.

Says the guy whose account isn't even old enough to mod anything.

Uhh.... uh..... your account is newer than mine is. soooo dismissing my very correct observation because I have a recent join date is really stupid.

Association reads leads to trouble you say? Hmm... tell me again about this connection between me and Bubba.

Why are you so comfortable with Antihero and Good Morning?

Your thing about "oh maybe there's only 2 scum, only scum would know!" thing is an attempted townslip because you are suggesting that you do not have information that scum would have, thus being town. Its a terrible attempt because unless this ends up being a bastard game then the distribution of scum, town, and PR's should be like most balanced 13 player games.

In post 402, Snork wrote:

In post 401, Guilty Gunsmith wrote:I'm appealing to anti because I know he's a good player and I think he's town. I also have the highest respect for him of those on this playerlist. I'm asking him to look at those two so he can see for himself rather than me telling him what to look at.

me. the site is being slow and shitty today.

^2nd on site being shitty.

but really if your being "ganeged up" like you are implying, you should eb able to defend yourself. I find your "oh im in trouble anti help me" is scummy.



i still want to hear from titus though the sooner i can figure her motives and plans, the sooner i can get rid of my paranoia

p-edit: there was plenty, its just lost within my posts somewhere. Also, it is more or less a plan. Its a mixture of winging it and planning

p-edit 2: ooooo looks like a pissy fight. *gets popcorn*

oh, and probably there are 3 scum so can we stop arguing now?

you all missed the entire fucking point.

1) I am not the one discussing balance like I know what I'm talking about when I don't. That said, the point wasn't about balance, it was about making association groupings of 3 instead of 2 and creating confbias about a slot and being unable to fucking pull back from that when it's crucial.

2) I don't give a shit what you think about town slips or whatever the fuck because that's a stupid thing to pretend to be a townslip in the first place and was absolutely not intended that way so you acting like it was is a fucking horrific misrep and just makes you look scummier.

3) ika ffs I am not asking anti to help defend me. I am asking him to use his goddamn brain like I would expect pretty much all of you to do and you're not. I think the titus thing is dumb. I think the ika thing is dumb. I think people are losing focus chasing vanity lynches that don't have any evidence.

I am done fucking around with this site and refreshing everytime I get a fucking 504 error so I'm going to bed. Lynch me or don't - IDGAF at this point because none of you seem to be bothering to actually read the game. Maybe when I flip town and you see I was right about reinoe, I was right about GreyICE, you'll fucking lynch Dr Pants and Bubba. I may not be taking the time to put some pretty little case together for you but that is no fucking excuse to NOT READ PEOPLE.

In post 397, bubbajack8 wrote:Actually I said I could see Snork scum, and I didn't see a Pats scum at the end, so misrep much?

no, not misrep at all. you didn't explicitly say either of those things.

In post 397, bubbajack8 wrote:He's putting himself in the town pool with the dead guy, and then saying everyone else on the wagon is scum (in different tiers).

he said "". the misrepper here, my good sir, is .

In post 403, goodmorning wrote:bubba is unsettling

snork wrote:I was right about GreyICE, you'll fucking lynch Dr Pants and Bubba. I may not be taking the time to put some pretty little case together for you but that is no fucking excuse to NOT READ PEOPLE.

WHERE IS MY LOVE?

WHERE?

God damn it... Site ate my post. I will try again tomorrow

but for ika 211 and 218 are far from fucking passive and you know it. I just am trying to break my death tunnel habit but you make it so fucking hard. I will not tunnel...

My name is Titus and I am a member of Tunnelers Anonymous. I have gone 0 games without tunneling as town....

lol at least you have company.

In post 412, Titus wrote:God damn it... Site ate my post. I will try again tomorrow

but for ika 211 and 218 are far from fucking passive and you know it. I just am trying to break my death tunnel habit but you make it so fucking hard. I will not tunnel...

My name is Titus and I am a member of Tunnelers Anonymous. I have gone 0 games without tunneling as town....

lol, this is why i love you titus, tunnle me all you like, you will not be getting much more from me on what im playing at. You already know i love to gambit like hell.

Just sometimes, the best gambit, its the one thats not so obvious and is shouded in layers of WIFOM.

Ok Pants, I'll try to break you out of yours, you try to break me out of mine if we start to tunnel ok? (aka be my co-sponsor)

As for Snork's comments, I know it's not popular but don't stop people when they do setup speculation. You can tell a lot by how people direct the setup speculation. I was pretty effective at this in Mini 1549. If you think a player is scum, they will reveal something about the setup or withhold it. You frequently shut your scum targets down. That doesn't help anyone else scumhunt them. Now I'm not advocating walls and walls of text but scum can be caught by having too grandiose of plans (Gundam Seed... again another scumgame of mine).



Snork, what about Anti's play here has been good at all? I'm just seeing accusations around and throwing out the word misrep like candy while avoiding the substance. For instance, the whole "if" thing doesn't matter at all. Removing yourself and saying scum is in this group is rather pointless without further analysis.

ika, are you just absolutely refusing to scumhunt or contribute in any meaningful way? Refusing to answer direct questions? If you want me to stop pressuring you about your plan, do SOMETHING! ANYTHING! townish.

In post 415, Titus wrote:Ok Pants, I'll try to break you out of yours, you try to break me out of mine if we start to tunnel ok? (aka be my co-sponsor)

I'm fine with this as long as we keep it focused on our methods, and not our reads.

Fair enough. That's the idea to get better as town, since you're a pretty solid townread of mine ATM.

talk to me about snork and ika.

Snork I can see as flailing town or scum. As town though, I don't get why he would keep talking to specific people, notably Antihero and Goodmorning. Even though I murked up day 1, I still feel Anti and Goodmorning as scum. In the case of Anti, its not his play so much but rather his predecessor's and the fact that Snork is talking to him. What do you think?

Your position on Ika seems to be based a lot off of meta. You say he's not scum hunting this game, but I've seen arguments and pushes from him at a similar rate as some of the other posters. Why is this a problem you have with Ika, but not Bubba, Shroomish, or Burning_Earth?

In post 415, Titus wrote:ika, are you just absolutely refusing to scumhunt or contribute in any meaningful way? Refusing to answer direct questions? If you want me to stop pressuring you about your plan, do SOMETHING! ANYTHING! townish.

I have? you are ignoring my questions though....

I need something to focus on and i gave you something to do that i can bounce off of. Either your not read the questions directed at you or you are expecting me to give you something.

I am planning titus, i need ppl to answer my questions. That includes you.

Pants, I'm talking to you specifically. That's not something I particularly view as alignment indicative unless you see a reason to ignore some and not talk to others.

I want to solve ika the fastest because of meta. ika, as town, is generally the opposite of me and we can do wicked shit if we are both town. I also want to see if that hammer was scum or just anti-town first. There is most likely scum somewhere in that wagon. If I can solve ika/SSK first, then that helps for down the line.

ika what did I miss?

In post 394, ika wrote:So heres something, give me a logical standpoint on why a scum would kill grayice.

this was for you. I want to see if your logical reasoning matches with mine. I have ohter theories on the kill but i want to hear you first.

also titus, outside of me and SSK atm, who else do you suspect?

You need to also give me something to look into

as far as ssk goes for me titus, i can see him being scum lets use him as an interchangable scum slot. The early hammer on townie is null, reione was being anti-town himself by not claiming at l-1 for so long really.

Antihero (duh) and Burning Earth would be my two top outside of you two ATM.

As for scum killing Greyice, he's one of the oldest players here and thus much harder to lynch independent of content, so I can see that as a reason for scum killing him.

Look into Pants/Snork. See if it is TvT or not.