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And I don't sense any real resistance to ASP, at all, though. Which worries me some. Yea I was enthusiastic about it earlier but I'm more meh on him now.

Like he hasn't even responded to the prod so it's not like he's thread dodging.

On the other hand I feel some invisible resistance to starbuck. In the form of not many peeps talking about her among other things.

VOTE: starbuck

Subject to change I guess. Like I said I'll be around. It's pretty dependent on her response to me at the end of the day, though.

Prod received. Been busy, sorry.

↑ grapes wrote:

↑ Starbuck wrote:Trust me, I know. I just logged on and started reading/catching up from where I left off.

that's fine and dandy; but also not the largest issue ive got with you

could you possibly go into who you think is town/scum a bit?

how good do you feel about that ASP vote?

I'm glad you finally asked because I'm sure you can go back into my extensive history on site and see that I usually don't participate in the listing of town/scum on Day 1. Given how short Day 1 is in this game, and the fact that I haven't played on MS for almost two and a half years, it's taking me a little longer to get back in the swing of things. You could have just asked me from the get go, though, instead of the way that you just went about it.

So as of right now......

A Simple Plan - TBD, I hate lurkers.
Sound of Silence- town
Vedith - leaning scum
Davsto - leaning scum
Knuckles - nullish but leaning town, in the past it's always been hard for me to read Nachomamma, now that she's in a hydra, it's even tougher
Xtoxm - null
Dongempire - null
grapes - null
Peptobislawl - null
Aj The Epic - town

Yeah, so which is the opportunistic wagon now.

UNVOTE: A Simple Plan

Nice to see that a little pressure of a wagon gets him in here.

That or a prod.

I guess it's the welcome back to MS that I should expect. A Day 1 lynch. Never change, MS, never change.

Huh. That's not the reaction I was expecting.

↑ Starbuck wrote:You could have just asked me from the get go, though, instead of the way that you just went about it.

A bit of pressure brings out alignment. I find it plausible that someone coming off a long hiatus would retain old habits - but giving townreads is a fundamental of mafia and as town you do it almost unconsciously (or at least I do). So if you happened to roll scum your first game back that would kinda fit with how off your approach to this game has felt so far.

unfortunately I don't have the time (or desire really) to meta you to find out for certain

↑ Starbuck wrote:
Sound of Silence- town
Vedith - leaning scum
Davsto - leaning scum
Aj The Epic - town

Is there more to these reads? If you've given thoughts before just link posts or w/e.

↑ A Simple Plan wrote:Prod received. Been busy, sorry.

That's all? You're being wagoned and there are questions for you in the thread.

↑ grapes wrote:SoS, could you go into your thoughts on starbuck? I recall you had some suspicions there but don't remember if you elaborated.

I had her as pretty null and I wanted to know the basis of Nacho's town read.

I'm a little surprised how that developed.

↑ grapes wrote:And I don't sense any real resistance to ASP, at all, though. Which worries me some. Yea I was enthusiastic about it earlier but I'm more meh on him now.

Like he hasn't even responded to the prod so it's not like he's thread dodging.

On the other hand I feel some invisible resistance to starbuck. In the form of not many peeps talking about her among other things.

VOTE: starbuck

Subject to change I guess. Like I said I'll be around. It's pretty dependent on her response to me at the end of the day, though.

Among what other things?

↑ Starbuck wrote:I guess it's the welcome back to MS that I should expect. A Day 1 lynch. Never change, MS, never change.

Does your wagon formation inform your reads? You have A Simple Plan as TBD in your reads list. Who would you vote if it weren't a self preservation situation?

↑ Sound of Silence wrote:

↑ Starbuck wrote:I guess it's the welcome back to MS that I should expect. A Day 1 lynch. Never change, MS, never change.

Does your wagon formation inform your reads? You have A Simple Plan as TBD in your reads list. Who would you vote if it weren't a self preservation situation?

If it wouldn't be considered OMGUS, grapes, for one, because of his sudden tunnel that came out of the blue. Knowing my own alignment, I can't help but think he's just trying to either buddy up or trying to help his buddies push a case so that there won't be a scumflip.

Other than him, I'm still not a fan of Davsto. I don't really care for how he replied when I questioned him, as he completely beat around the bush and did everything but answer my question. He hasn't impressed me whatsoever.

Vedith is just purely gut atm.

And on the wagon, I'm rather surprised by Knuckles jumping on so fast, which has made me pause.

I'm not so surprised by Xtoxm. He seems the type to want to stick it to anyone who questions him.

↑ Sound of Silence wrote:Among what other things?

a day till deadline and the leading wagon stalls for 24 hours at two votes

and universal rabble(or at least no strong resistance) about an alternative lynch on a dude with about 4 posts

who also spookily enough hasn't gotten much headway - i think it's just there's too much -not playing the game- going on more than anything which admittedly waters that down a good bunch

She's towntelling. And she'll work with us.

I guess my preference now is ASP > Pepto > anyone else.

I hate people who sign up and don't play. I was hoping he'd flake out, but he's clearly planning to occupy the slot and do nothing. I feel like we have to purge this before we can play properly.

VOTE: ASP

pedit: Starbuck, I did something that I expected scum may jump on me for. You bit.

↑ grapes wrote:

↑ Starbuck wrote:You could have just asked me from the get go, though, instead of the way that you just went about it.

A bit of pressure brings out alignment. I find it plausible that someone coming off a long hiatus would retain old habits - but giving townreads is a fundamental of mafia and as town you do it almost unconsciously (or at least I do). So if you happened to roll scum your first game back that would kinda fit with how off your approach to this game has felt so far.

unfortunately I don't have the time (or desire really) to meta you to find out for certain

↑ Starbuck wrote:
Sound of Silence- town
Vedith - leaning scum
Davsto - leaning scum
Aj The Epic - town

Is there more to these reads? If you've given thoughts before just link posts or w/e.

You don't need pressure to ask a question. That's what I'm saying. If you outright wanted to know where my thoughts on current players are, all you had to do was ask. Instead, you went about using it to try and garner a flimsy case on me. If you don't have the answer, and you never asked to begin with, how can I know what information that you want to see? I don't. I'm not a mind reader. So using that to try and paint me as scum is scummy in, and of, itself.

You don't have to explain the game to me either. I know how mafia works. I comprehend that townreads are fundamental, but just because I didn't outright list every player in the game and give my reads doesn't make me scum or scummy. There's plenty of folks who haven't done that either and I don't see you tunneling them. You didn't even look at me until my wagon started.



As for Vedith and Davsto, you can look a few posts up for my thoughts on them.

On SoS and Aj, they are of the very few that seem to be legitimately scumhunting and not jumping all over to opportunistic wagons. I understand pressure needs to happen (which is why I placed my vote on ASP in hopes that his wagon would bring him back around), but neither of them are tunneling, making up ridiculous cases with no footing, or sheeping about.

I do think it was foolish of Knuckles to use their dayvig on Nosferatu. There were much better options.

↑ Xtoxm wrote:She's towntelling. And she'll work with us.

I guess my preference now is ASP > Pepto > anyone else.

I hate people who sign up and don't play. I was hoping he'd flake out, but he's clearly planning to occupy the slot and do nothing. I feel like we have to purge this before we can play properly.

VOTE: ASP

pedit: Starbuck, I did something that I expected scum may jump on me for. You bit.

What specifically did you consider a towntell?

The unvote. I'm betting it's the unvote.

↑ grapes wrote:

↑ Sound of Silence wrote:Among what other things?

a day till deadline and the leading wagon stalls for 24 hours at two votes

and universal rabble(or at least no strong resistance) about an alternative lynch on a dude with about 4 posts

who also spookily enough hasn't gotten much headway - i think it's just there's too much -not playing the game- going on more than anything which admittedly waters that down a good bunch

I think the dayvig result has something to do with the slowdown, but this game overall is moving really slowly, except when knuckles gave it a kick in the pants.

↑ Aj The Epic wrote:The unvote. I'm betting it's the unvote.

grr.

What? I mean, I'm being honest. xtoxm has literally no other reason to think the posts turned around other than starbuck hopped off his wagon.

↑ Sound of Silence wrote:

↑ Xtoxm wrote:She's towntelling. And she'll work with us.

I guess my preference now is ASP > Pepto > anyone else.

I hate people who sign up and don't play. I was hoping he'd flake out, but he's clearly planning to occupy the slot and do nothing. I feel like we have to purge this before we can play properly.

VOTE: ASP

pedit: Starbuck, I did something that I expected scum may jump on me for. You bit.

What specifically did you consider a towntell?

It's her first game back from a hiatus, and she's responded to being wagoned with apathy. I'm liking much in her recent posts, tbh.

Pedit: Your rhetoric is boring. Fuck off.

↑ Aj The Epic wrote:What? I mean, I'm being honest. xtoxm has literally no other reason to think the posts turned around other than starbuck hopped off his wagon.

That was a line of questioning you stomped through.