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Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:48 pm
by Titus
Aquanim wrote:
Titus wrote:You're starting from the right point, but seeing the word thing. Look at the word choice. Farside says lazy and weird, not scummy and provides an opportunity to explain.

I give people opportunity to explain themselves frequently. Not buying that one.

Town might use this to investigate but it functions even better to determine if she can or cannot get on the wagon.

There IS no wagon at that stage. Why would Farside be trying to work out if she can run a wagon on her buddy, when she could just... not, and sit on her reasonably popular Pip wagon?

A town likely votes Loha at 191.

I didn't vote LoHa based on what was in the thread at 191.

Second, why are you focusing more on Farside when I am pushing for Loha lynch?

Your Farside read makes very little sense and I am trying to work out whether you can possibly believe it as town.


That's why it's called shopping a wagon.

Trying to work it out, or are you the third wheel? I'll figure out soon enough.

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 5:54 pm
by Aquanim
That's not an answer to this, I don't think.

There IS no wagon at that stage. Why would Farside be trying to work out if she can run a wagon on her buddy, when she could just... not, and sit on her reasonably popular Pip wagon?


What is the actual point of that play? Considering how much pull Farside has in this thread there seems to me that there would be considerable risk of the wagon taking off. I simply don't buy it as a bus. Too little reward for far too much risk.

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:03 pm
by Titus
Again, why so focused on Farside when Loha must be flipped first for any of it to have a point?

Second, if Farside had as much "pull" as you state, why doesn't she say Loha is town? She doesn't. She calls my case weak, but never says he's town when inviting him. She doesn't say he's town when she's paranoid over him.

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:04 pm
by Titus
*inviting = unvoting.

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:07 pm
by Aquanim
Titus wrote:Again, why so focused on Farside when Loha must be flipped first for any of it to have a point?

Again, it's because I'm trying to work out whether your thought process comes from a townie.

Second, if Farside had as much "pull" as you state, why doesn't she say Loha is town? She doesn't. She calls my case weak, but never says he's town when inviting him. She doesn't say he's town when she's paranoid over him.

I don't call LoHa town either. Why do you think Farside should?

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:09 pm
by Aquanim
For that matter I doubt Farside (or anyone, in most games) could stop a wagon dead in its tracks simply through thread presence. It is far easier to start a wagon than to stop one.

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:10 pm
by Aquanim
Back in a while.

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:11 pm
by Titus
To unvote, she should or say her target is scummier.

If you think a wagon is wrong, it's a duty to try of any town.

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:12 pm
by TheLhix
Vote: LoHa

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 7:33 pm
by Titus
VLA 12 hours

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 8:01 pm
by KittyMo
Image

[4] LoHa ~ Soren, Titus, itlepip, TheLhix
[2] TheLhix ~ pignash, hi im Yakko
[2] Titus ~ LoHa, farside22
[1] hi im Yakko ~ Nosferatu
[1] itlepip ~ pisskop
[1] pisskop ~ Kop

[2] Not Voting ~ Aquanim, Malakittens

With
13
alive, it's
7
to lynch!


Deadline is at (expired on 2015-11-17 22:00:00).

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 9:02 pm
by Malakittens
So..

I kinda don't want to vote farside.

I'm not really sure I feel about LoHa. Not really feeling a Itlepip scum here.

Soren is possibly town.

I'm not liking TheLhix nor titus/ :\

Yakko is prob town.

Not really liking Nosferatu either.

Rest idk.

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 9:33 pm
by Aquanim
Malakittens wrote:So..

I kinda don't want to vote farside.

I'm not really sure I feel about LoHa. Not really feeling a Itlepip scum here.

Soren is possibly town.

I'm not liking TheLhix nor titus/ :\

Yakko is prob town.

Not really liking Nosferatu either.

Rest idk.

Want to talk?

Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2015 10:55 pm
by Aquanim
</3

Still down with an itlepip lynch at this stage. He still hasn't done much useful, I still don't see towny motivation behind those early posts, and I won't be very sorry if it turns out the martyring, self-voting player is a mislynch. I'd be much sorrier if we went for Lhix or Titus and they flipped town.

VOTE: itlepip

I want LoHa to talk some more.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:28 am
by LoHa
Titus wrote:Yeah you do. You're trying to provoke me into perceived anti-town behavior and avoiding discussing substance. You're trying to avoid discussing your bus vote on Laho. Loha. Whatever.


Why am I supposedly scummy, Titus?

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:35 am
by farside22
pisskop wrote:I think Farside is acting like a silly bugger. Dont know what that means wrt her alignment yet though.



How so?

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:38 am
by farside22
Titus wrote:@Whoever asked

Farside did plenty of testing the waters before her vote.


Where do you see that?

Titus wrote:
Aquanim wrote:
Titus wrote:@Whoever asked

Farside did plenty of testing the waters before her vote.

You're missing the point. If Farside wants an itlepip lynch today and does not want a LoHa lynch, why would Farside "test the waters" for a LoHa vote?


She settled on itlepip. It wasn't by design. LoHa is scum. Farside distances a bit, and the rumblings pick up. Farside votes later. That buddies me and provides distance. Not expecting it to take off, Farside votes the counter.


That's another lie.


I can't believe people are buying Titus spinning a story over facts in the game here.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:40 am
by farside22
Aquanim wrote:That's not an answer to this, I don't think.

There IS no wagon at that stage. Why would Farside be trying to work out if she can run a wagon on her buddy, when she could just... not, and sit on her reasonably popular Pip wagon?


What is the actual point of that play? Considering how much pull Farside has in this thread there seems to me that there would be considerable risk of the wagon taking off. I simply don't buy it as a bus. Too little reward for far too much risk.


Notice Titus side steps the question when all she had done is use an association and her whole push on loha is over one fucking post.

Titus wrote:Again, why so focused on Farside when Loha must be flipped first for any of it to have a point?

Second, if Farside had as much "pull" as you state, why doesn't she say Loha is town? She doesn't. She calls my case weak, but never says he's town when inviting him. She doesn't say he's town when she's paranoid over him.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:41 am
by itlepip
Aquanim wrote:</3

Still down with an itlepip lynch at this stage. He still hasn't done much useful, I still don't see towny motivation behind those early posts, and I won't be very sorry if it turns out the martyring, self-voting player is a mislynch. I'd be much sorrier if we went for Lhix or Titus and they flipped town.

VOTE: itlepip

I want LoHa to talk some more.

You are aware that Mala and Kop together have 8 total posts here? Going for a policy lynch of me doesn't make any sense.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:45 am
by farside22
For those that don't know I phone post a lot so I'm going page by page comments while I do that.

Anyways.
I'm going to speak freely now.
Titus is pushing a case on loha over one point and is not engaging or asking question to the player she is supposedly scum reading.
What I don't get is why others are following it.
so those voting loha should explain what makes Titus points valid.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:45 am
by farside22
itlepip wrote:
Aquanim wrote:</3

Still down with an itlepip lynch at this stage. He still hasn't done much useful, I still don't see towny motivation behind those early posts, and I won't be very sorry if it turns out the martyring, self-voting player is a mislynch. I'd be much sorrier if we went for Lhix or Titus and they flipped town.

VOTE: itlepip

I want LoHa to talk some more.

You are aware that Mala and Kop together have 8 total posts here? Going for a policy lynch of me doesn't make any sense.



Pip: who are your scum reads?

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:54 am
by Aquanim
itlepip wrote:...
You are aware that Mala and Kop together have 8 total posts here? Going for a policy lynch of me doesn't make any sense.

I'm aware.

I dislike Mala's playstyle of lazing about day 1 but sadly it's not alignment-indicative, and typically her usefulness picks up later.

As for Kop, I simply have more reason to think you're mafia than I do him. Kop would be a straight policy lynch. Yours isn't.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 12:58 am
by farside22
Aquanim wrote:
itlepip wrote:...
You are aware that Mala and Kop together have 8 total posts here? Going for a policy lynch of me doesn't make any sense.

I'm aware.

I dislike Mala's playstyle of lazing about day 1 but sadly it's not alignment-indicative, and typically her usefulness picks up later.

As for Kop, I simply have more reason to think you're mafia than I do him. Kop would be a straight policy lynch. Yours isn't.



I'm feeling ignored this game.

I'm not crazy
And I'm not scum.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:13 am
by Aquanim
farside22 wrote:
...
I'm feeling ignored this game.

I'm not crazy
And I'm not scum.

I'm not ignoring you, I just don't have anything to say about Titus' cases at this moment that I haven't said already.

Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:26 am
by itlepip
pignash wrote:Scummy self vote there itlepip. What's the vote count?

Just read through the whole thread and was going to vote for TheLhix because of the interaction with yaako. Want to see an official vc first though.

farside22 wrote:
itlepip wrote:
Aquanim wrote:</3

Still down with an itlepip lynch at this stage. He still hasn't done much useful, I still don't see towny motivation behind those early posts, and I won't be very sorry if it turns out the martyring, self-voting player is a mislynch. I'd be much sorrier if we went for Lhix or Titus and they flipped town.

VOTE: itlepip

I want LoHa to talk some more.

You are aware that Mala and Kop together have 8 total posts here? Going for a policy lynch of me doesn't make any sense.



Pip: who are your scum reads?

Honestly I kinda feel that this game is being dominated by town, and scum is just slipping through the cracks a lot. So people like Pignash, Kop and Nos who have disappeared or not given much of what they are thinking are my top scum reads right now. I still have significant qualms with some of what LoHa has said, and since he still hasn't addressed my question I am going to keeping that vote on him. I don't see Lhx or Titus as scum here since lhx's posts seem to have town frustration and I think a scum Titus may have dropped 1-2 posts about how I may be town before I got lynched, but wouldn't have gone on such a different line of thinking from the rest. You and farside are also probably town honestly for you wobblings between me and Loha. Yakko and pisskop and who ever I have forgotten are null-town lean. (I trust the Mala lurking being NAI read).