If I had voted Cake in support of you mere moments ago when you asked me to would I have given you good vibes? Or was I already giving you bad vibes at that point and you asked me to back you up regardless?
If I wasn't giving you bad vibes prior to that - what about my response to you gives you bad vibes?
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 9:45 am
by Aeronaut
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 9:50 am
by SirCakez
So you think he semi-randomly claimed PR early on as scum, correct?
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:03 am
by Thor665
↑SirCakez wrote:So you think he semi-randomly claimed PR early on as scum, correct?
No, I think he's town and want to lynch him regardless.
Yes - I think he's scum.
Yes - I think he made some claims.
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:11 am
by Night Hunters
Idk what it is but the tone of your posts seems kinda off.
-Dad
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:16 am
by Thor665
Was my tone not off when you asked me to back your wagon of choice? Like, if you suspected him, and I'm a scummy seeming person who also suspects him shouldn't that positively affect your read on him or on me? Instead you seemed to suspect both, but only after I turned you down (something I made quite clear that I would prior to your ask, unless you thought me mentioning Cake's scummy posting was equivalent to the level of fervor I expressed towards my Fire read). I'm asking because the logic flow here seems really off, I don't ask people I think are scummy to back me up in lyching someone - do you?
If yes, why?
In no...then what happened here?
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:17 am
by Night Hunters
This is a hydra if it wasnt obvious by us signing Dad (dwlee) and Mom (titus).
lol
-Dad
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:19 am
by Thor665
I don't think you being a hydra affects my questions to you, but if you think they do please let me know how.
If they don't, could you answer the question?
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:20 am
by Thor665
Oh, wait, or are you saying Titus was the one who asked for support? That would make some sense.
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:21 am
by Night Hunters
↑Thor665 wrote:Was my tone not off when you asked me to back your wagon of choice? Like, if you suspected him, and I'm a scummy seeming person who also suspects him shouldn't that positively affect your read on him or on me? Instead you seemed to suspect both, but only after I turned you down (something I made quite clear that I would prior to your ask, unless you thought me mentioning Cake's scummy posting was equivalent to the level of fervor I expressed towards my Fire read). I'm asking because the logic flow here seems really off, I don't ask people I think are scummy to back me up in lyching someone - do you?
If yes, why?
In no...then what happened here?
Your entire question is asking me why I changed my position on you when that was titus' position. You're saying "was my tone not off when you asked me to back your wagon of choice" that was titus who asked you that. Not me. So your question is completely unrelated to me. *shrugs*
-Dad
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:23 am
by Thor665
Hurm, that post wasn't signed, but I will take by inference that you are saying it was Titus.
My counter then to your gut read is - ask Titus about my usual "tone" and then come back and clarify if you still think this is how I play as scum but not as town. I think that will save me a headache and you time.
In the meantime - on the basis that I agree Cake is screwy and massive is bad, please sheep me on Firebird.
Seriously - ask Titus to read my entrance and Fire's claim again in context, then sheep.
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:23 am
by Thor665
↑Night Hunters wrote:So your question is completely unrelated to me. *shrugs*
Meh, you are one account, deal.
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:35 am
by Night Hunters
Thor, you're asking me to read subtext. I struggle with that. I also hate meta. I could do fire but it's not a wagon I am thrilled by.
I will keep looking to see what you're getting at since I am pretty sure you're town.
Dwlee, Thor is like my first IC ever in a noob game. Why he's selling meta is weird but I don't think he'd make that strong of a push if he wasn't town.
~Mom
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:43 am
by Thor665
↑Night Hunters wrote:Thor, you're asking me to read subtext. I struggle with that. I also hate meta. I could do fire but it's not a wagon I am thrilled by.
My case is not meta - I *am* using meta (and specifically saying it is only for those who know me) to help clarify how serious I am about this case (which, is also a bit important for those who know me ) but meta is not part of the case. Replace meta with "I'm seriously serious" and you have gone as far as you need to go with meta for the case.
Subtext...yes, that is part of the case, and, in truth, is basically 100% of the case as stands. I am admitting that, and also am willing to admit that it is the totality thereof. That said - do you have a town read on Firebird? DO you see that player's actions as protown? Do you see my reads, as presented, as townish insomuch as I am apparently ahving a few similar thoughts to your own? If so, and if you don't have a strong case you can generate support towards, why not hop in on this case, at least for a while, to see where it goes and what happens.
Worst case - you take a stand, and can read some reactions, and then decide you don't support the case.
Best case - we lynch scum, and I feel manly and am a stallion in bed with my girlfriend.
Like, seriously, what is the concerning downside here?
You make me sad that you are missing it though.
↑Night Hunters wrote:I will keep looking to see what you're getting at since I am pretty sure you're town.
Your hydra gut is out of control.
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:46 am
by Night Hunters
@Thor, The why don't you hop on thing goes both ways and Cakes is the larger wagon?
I did have a strong case that had support from Toejam and Shaddowez? Why can't you sheep us?
~Titus
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:55 am
by Thor665
↑Night Hunters wrote:@Thor, The why don't you hop on thing goes both ways and Cakes is the larger wagon?
Because subtext.
↑Night Hunters wrote:I did have a strong case that had support from Toejam and Shaddowez? Why can't you sheep us?
State the case - but, as already said, I have issues with that slot and am actively choosing to vote this slot over it for very serious reasons.
Clearly I am not stating those reasons for...well, a reason.
Why is this so complicated of a concept to grok?
You've never seen this in a game before?
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:01 am
by Night Hunters
fire is town though
-dad
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:10 am
by Thor665
I strongly disagree with that.
Do you have any particular logic to back up that belief, or is it a gut read vs. my unwilling to explain textural case?
Because if so...meh, gut is less strong, and that's saying something because my case is weak to everyone but me and those who can get it.
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:12 am
by Night Hunters
Read his ISO. If that isnt town tone idk what is.
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:12 am
by Night Hunters
↑Night Hunters wrote:Read his ISO. If that isnt town tone idk what is.
-Dad
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:16 am
by Thor665
↑Night Hunters wrote:Read his ISO. If that isnt town tone idk what is.
You read my tone as scummy - so I will admit that I don't trust your tone read abilities.
Also, I have read his iso - it reads to me as scum.
Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2016 11:52 am
by Night Hunters
There are a lot of things that can ping my tonedar so *shrug*. Maybe you're weird.
-Dad