New York 195: Adventure Mafia - Game over!

Titus · Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:28 am

I could compromise on Kop, considering the wagon looks to be all town. I just think Seth was town.

I think Zakk is still much better though.

Titus · Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:08 am

Seth is a troll account. Lightning rod for bullshit but still scumhunting.

Titus · Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:17 am

In post 2889, Nahdia wrote:I'm completely behind and haven't changed my reads at all, really. I still think anen and copper are definitely scum but I barley have opinions on the other slots.

Talk to me about them then. What do you see?

Titus · Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:19 am

In post 2862, Lowell wrote:@shaz and zakk, I haven't really seen anyone articulate why the kop claim is scum. the "two-shot" part in particular makes me think it's a town claim. If he's scum, why wouldn't he polish his claim to be the more conventional "one-shot" or "even/odd" type of claim? I guess this is WIFOM too, but again I can't see why scum would benefit from this.

Really, we

just finished a game with even/odd,

when scum had even odd roles themselves.

I don't buy two shot commuter. I'm an odd night role.

VOTE: Kop

Titus · Thu Jun 16, 2016 4:20 am

In post 2928, Ircher wrote:Titus, what's your thoughts on Lowell's reaction to the Kop wagon before and after the claim?

Getting there. I catch up backwards.

Titus · Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:25 am

In post 2942, Nahdia wrote:yeah im not a big fan of the kop lynch

can we get a counterwagon pls?

*waves* can you give me a gut readslist?

Titus · Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:22 pm

*pulls hair out* These flips.

Will read up tonight/early morning.

Titus · Sun Jun 19, 2016 4:27 am

We have enough flips where I should eyeball VCA later today. I still feel relatively confident about Shotty/zakk being scum but given I swore Anen is town, I think some reevaluation is in order...

Titus · Sun Jun 19, 2016 4:32 am

In post 3037, Nahdia wrote:Anen was about as town as I am scum. toldja.

You also said Copper was scum...

What are your reads now?

Titus · Sun Jun 19, 2016 4:40 am

Thoughts on Lowell's fast hammer before we could discuss the my modifier based CC?

Titus · Sun Jun 19, 2016 11:04 am

In post 3049, Shaziro wrote:Alright so looking back at Titus and Ircher's interactions, I could see that being distancing. It looks like Ircher was going along with Titus, and Titus didn't mind and was defending Ircher, but the moment somebody mentioned it Titus switched into hardcore "NOPE DEFINITELY NOT LINKED TO THIS PERSON SHHHHH" mode. Ircher tried to explain things, and Titus slammed on the gas again. Even with daytalk, I can see them definitely wanting to show everybody that distance between them and drive a hard wedge in that thought. That's not looking good. Ircher, the scum motivation for directing town PRs to a town target would be eliminating town, and eliminating the odds that a town PR kills you or your scumbuddy. That should be blatantly obvious to you, and asking me to "show you the scum motivation" in that is ridiculous. What's the current Vote Count looking like?

This is non-sense. The whole "coaching" thing is absurd.

It also depends on Ircher being scum, yet big shock no one is pushing Ircher is scum.

This boils down to Titus is defending her townreads, so let's spam the thread with that so Titus doesn't have enough time/energy to look at the votes.

Titus · Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:29 pm

In post 3053, Ircher wrote:
In post 3049, Shaziro wrote:Alright so looking back at Titus and Ircher's interactions, I could see that being distancing. It looks like Ircher was going along with Titus, and Titus didn't mind and was defending Ircher, but the moment somebody mentioned it Titus switched into hardcore "NOPE DEFINITELY NOT LINKED TO THIS PERSON SHHHHH" mode. Ircher tried to explain things, and Titus slammed on the gas again. Even with daytalk, I can see them definitely wanting to show everybody that distance between them and drive a hard wedge in that thought. That's not looking good. Ircher, the scum motivation for directing town PRs to a town target would be eliminating town, and eliminating the odds that a town PR kills you or your scumbuddy. That should be blatantly obvious to you, and asking me to "show you the scum motivation" in that is ridiculous. What's the current Vote Count looking like?
That requires me to know Copper was town in the first place.

Again, prove that I knew Copper was town before making faulty conclusions.

If you're scum, you would have known Copper was town

Titus · Sun Jun 19, 2016 12:30 pm

In post 3054, Ircher wrote:Yeah, definitely could lynch Shaz too.

Nope. Won't do that as long as Shaz doesn't do anything inconsistent with my role read on them.

Titus · Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:27 am

I'm not a vig. There. We'll confirm that. I don't kill anyone.

I'm buying Lowell's claim. Given the claims on the table, that makes sense.

Titus · Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:33 am

In post 3083, Nahdia wrote:Titus basically just slam dunked Lowell

Huh?

Titus · Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:37 am

Why would Lowell claim vig as not vig?

Titus · Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:43 am

@Zakk, 3 kills in a night

strongly suggests

a vig no?

Titus · Mon Jun 20, 2016 9:47 am

That's not the way that works. Vigs don't cc. They just shoot the vig.

Titus · Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:03 am

In post 3105, zakk wrote:
In post 3103, Nahdia wrote:if no vig CC's Lowell, I'm gonna assume he's either real or they're planning on shooting Lowell tonight.

UNVOTE:
which is why you should vote titus not lowell. if he's scum it'll work itself out.

Then why did you feel the need to doubtcast and say you're trying to peg me and Lowell? This is a recurring theme. Say Titus is scum with player X but never say why either is scum at all.

Titus · Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:04 am

In post 3101, Nahdia wrote:
In post 3100, Titus wrote:That's not the way that works. Vigs don't cc. They just shoot the vig.
Unless they don't have any shots left.

Then, they'd CC.

Titus · Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:06 am

Why are

you

saying that Shaz given your day 2 admissions?

Titus · Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:11 am

No. Lowell is almost certainly telling the truth. While providing no evidence beyond him hanging his mind, you're doubt casting him. So why are you engaging in that bullshit rather than scumhunting?

Titus · Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:11 am

In post 3111, Shaziro wrote:
In post 3109, Titus wrote:Why are
you
saying that Shaz given your day 2 admissions?
I've already made my case against you and Ircher. Lowell looks scummy as hell now too. If we're waiting to see if Lowell gets vigshot, then I think you and Ircher are the best choices for a lynch. Which one is a more important lynch is entirely based on which would give us the most information based on their flip, but I'm not good at figuring that out, so I'm asking others.

VOTE: Shaz

Titus · Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:15 am

In post 3113, zakk wrote:
In post 3102, zakk wrote:
In post 3096, Titus wrote:@Zakk, 3 kills in a night
strongly suggests
a vig no?
100% yes
however, caveat:

if by some thing there are 2 scum teams and an SK

and if town has more blocky-healy-protecty type powers to counter-act balance stuff

then SK could easily claim vig and get away with it

another reason why it's
not
good to speculate and lynch due to speculation, however
still is good
to speculate, and figure out what may be happening, and decide to
let things resolve themselves
based on proper evaluation of said speculation, and educated guesses based on what might be the proper course of action

and let me know where i lost you, because i'm sure i did, yea?

SK claims vig putting a target on his back to both factions and you would call that easy to get away with? That serves no purpose for an SK whatsoever.

You're trying to speculate to remove ways of town recognizing each other and that's not cool.

Titus · Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:22 am

In post 3119, zakk wrote:here's a pro-tip:

speculate why/whether each possible faction might do each action

come to conclusions

whether you act upon those conclusions is as important as knowing whether to speculate in the first place

you aren't even speculating

you are trolling those who are

ergo i'm ignoring you now.

I don't troll. Not in my genes.

Rampant speculation =/= scumhunting.

Lowell isn't an SK or anything else scum. You're flailing to make a theory rather than be caught with your hand in the cookie jar again.

Titus · Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:23 am

In post 3124, Shaziro wrote:I heard you. Problem is, that sounds like Titus is a scum PR and you want her to use her ability another time.

Another time? You crumbed pretty hard that you role blocked me night 1.

Titus · Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:26 am

Nahdia, let's lynch Zakk and Shaz.

Titus · Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:27 am

In post 3132, Ircher wrote:
In post 2442, Shaziro wrote:
In post 2441, Titus wrote:
In post 2439, Shaziro wrote:No.
Why not?
Two reasons, the first of which is that I don't feel like you'd claim like that. The second is for ~reasons~ that would be bad for town to be outed atm.
This? @Titus

Yes and that conversation. You'll find me strongly suggesting to only jail me even nights.

Titus · Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:28 am

In post 3135, Nahdia wrote:those are both awful reads.

i mean, i can maybe see shaz. but the zakk read is awful.

What are good reads then?

Titus · Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:29 am

In post 3140, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
vig titus]/b]
I've had enough of this, see you guys tomorrow.

Troll scum fail.

Titus · Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:33 am

Lols. You vig me and not the guy claiming vig.

Fake or scumclaim.

Moving onto getting the Shaz to confess.

What were your ~reasons~ if not that you had jailed me?

Titus · Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:43 am

Calling people out on nonsense isn't role fishing Shaz.

Zakk, your posts haven't been scumhunting but doubt casting a vig. He sees 2-shot, thinks it matches. I say but roles are odd night (which I thought at the time). He had a mechanical based reason to suggest Kop was scum.

He's also claiming a death on scum. Lowell's town.

Titus · Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:45 am

Lowell, Really? Dude. This is why I feel town suck. Shaz Shotty and Zakk get town points for trying to doubtcast obvtown and I get scumpoints for seeing that you're obvtown...and they call me the moonlogi queen.

Titus · Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:50 am

Like has no one noticed Shaz walking back his roleblocker claim but me and Ircher immediately after Anen flips?

Oh yes scum get mad about obvown and discredit conftown. If you had bullets, maybe not. You've claimed to be out of bullets though.

Titus · Mon Jun 20, 2016 10:52 am

I want you to help me resolve this Shaz claim and walk back while we wait for Magna to return from VLA. I don't disagree with pressure there though...

Titus · Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:03 am

In post 3169, Shaziro wrote:Christ alive, Ircher, I've made it very clear that it is bad for town for me to explain it. You're either scum who actively wants town to suffer, or just a VI who can't accept that he's wrong. Either way, I'm not explaining more than I already have, so stop fishing.

Then why didn't you correct me when I obviously thought you were a jailkeeper?

I am not letting this go. You said you had ~reasons~ to believe I went nowhere and was town. That strongly suggests jailkeeper.

Your responses to when I said you were doubt casting Lowell were that "Healy or roleblockey" roles might protect Lowell, again insinuating that you could heal or roleblock.

Yet, now you're pretending you never blocked me.

Titus · Mon Jun 20, 2016 11:19 am

Spoiler: Shaz and I talking about his jailkeep claim - Real close attention to the last two.

In post 2435, Shaziro wrote:
In post 2428, Titus wrote:
Why did it seem like a reaction test to you?
As Ircher said, the way you phrased it, asking what their reaction would be. It seemed to be more of a "Hey, this is just me getting a feel for what people are thinking of me while also waiting to see who runs with the assumption" kind of thing.

In post 2429, Titus wrote: Who said anything on validation? Suggesting information can generate reads.

What do you think I am getting from my reaction test?
I think you were waiting for somebody to take that as an assumption that you were the vigilante and act differently towards you because of it, which is why I said "Interesting" about it being assumed that you were claiming it there.

In post 2433, Titus wrote:
If it is, don't out reaction tests. That generally ruins them.
I didn't say anything about it at the time, just like I didn't with the fakehammer earlier. Is it still too early to call it a reaction test when it was that long ago? I don't think you're really going to get any more reactions to it, and if it was a reaction test doesn't it benefit town to have them now know what it was and therefore be able to look at the reactions with that knowledge in mind?

In post 2438, Titus wrote:@Shaziro, I am pretty sure the fake hammer ran its course.

It was the one thing that made me doubt a Persivul lynch. No one seemed to be paying attention to the game.

Also, do you think I am the vig Shaziro?

In post 2439, Shaziro wrote:No.

In post 2441, Titus wrote:
In post 2439, Shaziro wrote:No.
Why not?

In post 2442, Shaziro wrote:
In post 2441, Titus wrote:
In post 2439, Shaziro wrote:No.
Why not?
Two reasons, the first of which is that I don't feel like you'd claim like that. The second is for ~reasons~ that would be bad for town to be outed atm.

In post 2446, Shaziro wrote:Do you think I messed up your reaction test by mentioning it too early, and if so is that just in this one case or was that too fast in general?

In post 2447, Titus wrote:I'll explain post game.

P.S. The hood is odd.

Join me on Zakk?

In post 2448, Shaziro wrote:My problem with the Zakk vote is that I don't like that Shotty is on it, as I'm not really liking Shotty for town this game.

In post 2504, cytheflyguy wrote:Ok, doe, as of NOW I am going to try to take this game seriously lol.

I only have one real reason why I'm voting Titus, but I feel it's an important one: She is too much in a leadership position for two people to be killed by non town to kill her. The only way I can reasonably see that she is town is if someone attacked her, but they were either roleblocked, she had a bulletproof vest on, or the doctor healed her.

Edit @Shaziro Ye, Ik. That is what I'm doing now! NYEH HEH HEH

In post 2505, Shaziro wrote:I'm not here to defend Titus, but I have reason to believe that isn't a concern, Cy.

You get the picture that Shaz knows that I couldn't have gone anywhere Night 1. He implies this repeatedly.

Yet, now his tune is that he acts as if I could get "another use" of my ability.

He's crumbed this through multiple places.

Titus · Mon Jun 20, 2016 2:04 pm

@Zakk, Why are you defending Zakk's blatant miscrumbing/lies? Is he important to your team?

1) There's zero chance Shaz is fake crumbing as a reaction east. The dude barely knows about reaction tests and how to handle them.
2) The crumbs clearly state he knows I went nowhere and no one tried to attack me (particularly the Cy interaction)
3) Again, this is throw mud at Titus when scumhunting. His actions clearly claim knowledge.
4) Highlighting inconsistent statements isn't role fishing.
5) The dude doesn't have a troll personality, as evidence by his asking me if he was interrupting my reaction test.

Titus · Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:02 pm

Nahdia, your definition of good posting is very different from mine.

Titus · Mon Jun 20, 2016 3:39 pm

Funny is NAI though.

Titus · Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:34 am

@Magna, Have you considered Shaz-Ircher team and Zakk being clueless?

Titus · Tue Jun 21, 2016 5:04 pm

This is an odd vote progression... For some reason Magna is saying all the right things, yet his votes seem calculated, like I don't even

Titus · Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:25 am

Why are there a bunch of suggestive colors in your VCS Ircher?

Titus · Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:36 am

In post 3245, Nahdia wrote:I mean, a neighborhood of 4 town is... not even slightly unreasonable?

It's not unheard of, just unlikely.

Pedit: Magna and Liger

Titus · Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:37 am

In post 3238, drmyshottyizsik wrote:Ok so looking at the VC scum is egg and zack. They are ALWAYS on opposing wagons and it almost seems methodical.

I can agree with this but it's not ideal methodology. Ideal method are to clear people first IMO.

Titus · Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:47 am

In post 3249, Nahdia wrote:I would really rather not lynch people just purely because of speculation on there being one scum in the hood.

Why do you think I didn't push for a hood lynch after Persivul? I am in agreement the wiki is usually right but that does not mean always

Titus · Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:51 am

In post 3261, Nahdia wrote:i mean if you're scum it's dumb too but at least i can understand you're using a crutch. a really bad, flimsy crutch, but some people just arent great scumplayers and that doesn't necessarily speak to their intelligence

I really don't think Ircher is scum here. Talk to me about Shaz Egg and Zakk please.

Titus · Wed Jun 22, 2016 7:02 am

In post 3265, Nahdia wrote:worth noting the anen line that i felt was a scumclaim was him defending Ircher.

Which post?

Why is everyone ignoring Shaz's bullshit?

Titus · Wed Jun 22, 2016 10:51 am

In post 3286, Lowell wrote:@magna, why are you assuming one scum team and an SK, out of curiosity?

Anyway magna's probably scum, but I need to try something.

VOTE: egg

Let me let this settle. Yep, feels good.

Something about his ISO, eh, I don't know.

Wit a vig + hood, that is the most likely scenario.

Titus · Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:16 pm

In post 3294, Lowell wrote:Well then I feel like a dumbass for claiming then if its an SK. I had assumed two scumgroups.

You claim stopped me from suspecting you were scum, so that's something.

Titus · Wed Jun 22, 2016 12:17 pm

My claim wound up getting a town PR mislynched and probably myself permanently roleblocked and people ignoring obvious scum... so *shrug*

Titus · Wed Jun 22, 2016 1:22 pm

In post 3298, zakk wrote:Titus, iso aneninen pls and let me know what you think of possible scumbuddies

That's not generally how I look for buddies... :/ I generally look in the votes. I'll look at the votes in the next day or so, given the large amounts of flips here.

Titus · Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:02 pm

In post 3313, Nosferatu wrote:As for the vig thing I'm kinda looking:

Titus - probably scum
Shaziro - if titus is town probably scum
Liger_zero - PoE from neighborhood makes probable scum
Egg - is perpetually catching up and I don't like that.
projectmatt - probably scum or bad. The fact that bad is an option makes him lower.
Ircher - I'm on the fence.
cytheflyguy - might be lurkerscum
drmyshottyizsik - probably town but paranoia
Lowell - might be sk, or 2-shot strongman but probably not
MagnaofIllusion - probably town
zakk - probably town
Nahdia - probably town

Your ranked readslist is looking who is easy to lynch

Titus · Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:04 pm

That's why you're at the bottom of his list.

Titus · Thu Jun 23, 2016 12:49 pm

In post 3379, Ircher wrote:Then do something about it.

If you don't want to be lynched, then participate. If your town, then the previous lynch should've been a wake up call for you.

You, Cy, Kop.... All you need to stop lurking and actually do stuff rather than prod-dodge constantly.

Kop needs to stop lurking....

You need to pay attention...

Go ahead. Pressure Kop.

Titus · Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:17 pm

In post 3388, Ircher wrote:I'm srry, I never said Kop was alive.

No those dead players need to start posting and help us.

Titus · Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:18 pm

In post 3396, Ircher wrote:
In post 3394, Nahdia wrote:i thought it was significantly funny.

Me too. :$

I make funny slips like that all the time.

Titus · Sat Jun 25, 2016 8:22 am

Zakk, regardless of your alignment, your level of stupidity makes me want to strangle you. But I work best when not in a pissed off rage. I don't care if you vote me but can you please try to put intelligence in the thread so I can focus? K. Thx.

Titus · Sat Jun 25, 2016 11:40 am

Why are you so far up my ass Ircher?

Titus · Sat Jun 25, 2016 2:33 pm

This is like the 3 or 4th time someone says [player] or [Titus] and Ircher immediately votes the other person.

Titus · Sun Jun 26, 2016 5:19 am

Hey, is there anyone town and sane still posting in this thread? Like anyone who is willing to talk at all?

Right now most people are just oh here's my scumread and I won't talk to anyone else. That's not going to work. No one's talking to each other, we're talking at each other.

Titus · Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:46 am

In post 3456, drmyshottyizsik wrote:Titus needs to die for this game to move on

In post 3457, zakk wrote:
In post 3456, drmyshottyizsik wrote:Titus needs to die for this game to move on

No. You two do.

Titus · Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:46 am

In post 3455, Egg wrote:I mean, I'm willing to talk but I don't think you and I agree on anything.

Great, well, you're caught up.

Who do you think is scum?

Titus · Sun Jun 26, 2016 6:57 am

In post 3461, Egg wrote:
In post 3459, Titus wrote:
In post 3455, Egg wrote:I mean, I'm willing to talk but I don't think you and I agree on anything.
Great, well, you're caught up.

Who do you think is scum?
Ircher, Magna, Nos. Cy SK.

I'm wierded out by Ircher at the moment. If I am being kept alive for my reads being terrible, Ircher is scum. I'm most likely kept alive so that Zakk and Scotty don't have to fake scumhunting though.
Magna, he's the only one who saw how obvious scum Shaz is. Shaz knew I was blocked and walked it the fuck back.
Nos is a decent policy lynch. I'm not hard townreading the guy.
Cy SK...I'm not townreading him but I don't like the attempt to pigeonhole as an SK.

Now, can you at least fucking talk to me about Shaz?

Titus · Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:23 am

In post 3463, Egg wrote:I don't think he knew you were blocked. You're giving him a lot of credit for a new player with the whole crumbing thing. And if he WAS crumbing, when you asked him about it, he'd either say so or he'd deny it because he didn't want that info outted. I don't think opening up the "Is Shaziro a power role" converdation was a good idea on your part. You tend to want all of the information as soon as you can get it and that's just not how this game works ideally. Basically, I don't think he came off scummy in that interaction and I don't think you should have said half of what you did.

Oh great. So there's this mystical other interpretation about how he knows I killed no one and crumbed jk? I would love to hear it.

This whole mystical other explanation theory is simply so stunted.

Titus · Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:33 am

In post 3466, Shaziro wrote:Titus I genuinely don't believe you could be missing the point at this point, I think you're scum being deliberately obtuse. You're better than this, from what I've heard.

The only point I see is that I cannot quote your role PM so I have to consider aliens took over town.

Titus · Sun Jun 26, 2016 9:35 am

In post 3467, Ircher wrote:Prodge,....

Ugh... This game is so slow & boring at this point.....

Oh fuck you.VOTE: Ircher Do something other than be up my ass then.

Titus · Sun Jun 26, 2016 10:53 am

In post 3470, Shaziro wrote:You're going in with the assumption that I am lying and not that you may have latched onto the wrong ~reasons~.

Yeah, it makes a ell of a lot more sense that you're lying than deliberately crumbed the wrong role.

Titus · Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:11 am

I can be. But why would I believe I am wrong without evidence? Ocam's Razor is a thing.

Titus · Sun Jun 26, 2016 11:22 am

Then why won't you say it?

Titus · Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:05 pm

Bad for town is your conclusion. That's just circular as fuck shit. I'm town. Don't push my shit because I'm town and I say it's bad for town. Therefore it's bad for town.

If that's true, SCUM already know so there's no harm in telling me. If it's not true, it's a defense you're hiding behind to refuse to explain why you lied/crumbed the wrong role.

If you're really town, then it's important to get town work together rather than this anti-town bullshit you've spewed since Day 1.

Titus · Sun Jun 26, 2016 12:51 pm

But he DID crumb with ~reasons~ and he knows I didn't kill anyone.

The only reason to say reasons is to withhold until a later time, which gets town going the same direction.

Like holy shit did all of Mafiascum forget how to play mafia?

Titus · Sun Jun 26, 2016 3:29 pm

In post 3483, Shaziro wrote:You're ignoring that there is a much more simple answer.

I am not ignoring it. I am asking you to say it.

Titus · Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:44 pm

In post 3492, Egg wrote:
In post 3486, Titus wrote:
In post 3483, Shaziro wrote:You're ignoring that there is a much more simple answer.
I am not ignoring it. I am asking you to say it.
Nah, there's no wagon on Shaziro. He doesn't need to claim just so you can understand what he meant.

And he wouldn't need to if the solution is simple.

I caught him in a lie and cannot gt a wagon. Don't you think if he was town at least a couple scum would wagon him?

Titus · Sun Jun 26, 2016 7:42 pm

So you're going cosmic coincidence?

Titus · Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:05 am

Wow, others disagree with you...you haven't agreed with logic you don't see... it's not scumhunting...

I am looking at you because I don't see this simple solution and I want an answer to why you crumbed what you did. Why should I look elsewhere because you refuse to answer? Every scum would refuse to answer with the exact trust me logic you put forth.

I am

voting

elsewhere because town is being dumb here.

We are STILL going to have 2 kpn per night, 3-4 scum alive and an SK. That's going to make it insanely hard to get a wagon on scum. Saying difficult = deterrent = bad pressure only wants me to defenestrate you more.

Titus · Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:22 am

You see, I have knowledge that you don't called my role PM.

This is about the 10th time you've implied that I am town and that I am attempting to solve this and you are STILL pretending like answering is a problem.

You just don't want to answer because scum have been perfectly fine tunnelling my ass since day 1 and now they are protecting you.

Let's suppose for a second that you're town, why wouldn't scum join me? Because they already know whatever you are going to say.

If you're scum, they won't join for obvious reasons.

You plugging your ears and trying to act like I am a five year old that doesn't exist is just the most dumb thing ever.

Titus · Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:23 am

You won't even begin to tell me where to look.

Titus · Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:39 am

I'm going with what happened to me and Shaz's responses are something close to a cop guilty and your response is I don't need to know. Like wtf?

Titus · Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:41 am

In post 3504, Shaziro wrote:I keep trying to give you the benefit of the doubt, you keep acting scummy. You haven't changed my mind and are just shouting more and more that you're definitely town and you deserve to know. I've told you more than o probably should have because I fell for your role fishing. I'm done. Either re-read me and find some way to prove that you are town, or I'm happy with you being today's lynch.

P-edit- oh look, town!egg

Suspecting me is scummy.
Back off or I am voting you although I know you're town (notice he says prove you're town).

We're like 1 day from mass claim anyway thanks to the SK being a terrible shot.

Titus · Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:46 am

In post 3507, Shaziro wrote:If you can't prove that I am wrong and you are town, then I think you are scum. You're misrepresenting what I'm saying in order to make me sound unsure or opportunistic. I'm being very straightforward.

Wrong about what?

I was role blocked.
You crumbed jailkeeper.
You claimed I didn't kill anyone because I was in jail.

I want you to swing for that or explain why not.

Titus · Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:46 am

^^ Then you claimed I was scum.

Titus · Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:54 am

Zakk, you can go a little more specific with your request if you want.

Titus · Mon Jun 27, 2016 3:59 am

OK, Early games to see my base nature or more recent, looking for a specific behavior? Ircher referenced a recent normal game. There's also Puppy Mafia too where I was wagoned early.

Titus · Mon Jun 27, 2016 4:04 am

Dude, I am asking for what you think is relevant because I don't think any is because I am not scum...

Titus · Mon Jun 27, 2016 4:08 am

@Magna, I usually do it on Day 4. I have Ben wanting to do it sooner but I am in a why bother wasting my time in a thread full of people who treat me like a child to be ignored mood.

Titus · Mon Jun 27, 2016 4:31 am

In post 3528, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
In post 3526, Titus wrote:@Magna, I usually do it on Day 4. I have Ben wanting to do it sooner but I am in a why bother wasting my time in a thread full of people who treat me like a child to be ignored mood.
If you are Town and you have expertise that can help Town achieve a victory then this explanation is at best petty. It isn't a good look.

I'm concerned because my experience (yes, it is limited) with scum Titus says she puts off doing VCA.

Really? Another do what I want or else.

Fucking dicks. All of you. It takes like 3 hours to do it right. So could you at least be considerate of my time and color AND spoiler all the VCs with NO suggestive crap.

Titus · Mon Jun 27, 2016 4:34 am

Then maybe I can get a God damn question answered.

Titus · Mon Jun 27, 2016 4:43 am

Egg, I am the one implying near cop levels of confidence Shaz is scum. Like holy crap.

Magna, Really? Petulant? When I have to post 30 times to get a question answered it's petulant?

@Zakk, Thank you.

Titus · Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:32 am

Kelbris was a mini. D4 for larges but I see that's done. So I will share what I have by 6 pm tonight.

Titus · Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:39 am

Eyeballing this.

Lowell, PM, Nahdia, Nos likely town from Day 1.

Titus · Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:21 am

In post 3556, Egg wrote:
In post 3541, Titus wrote:Egg, I am the one implying near cop levels of confidence Shaz is scum. Like holy crap.
Oh. That... changes things. But you claimed odd night and it's Day 3 so why is this just coming out now?

Nahdia, I noticed Lowell in your pool. Did you forget about his claim or do you just want to lynch him anyway?

Magna, ok. I took 3371 as a personal attack for joining a game I didn't have time for, not suspicion. My mistake I guess. Not really sure how you thought that was alignment indicitve, but you probably should have specified that buying a house is scummy. Seriously, do I have to post a picture of my paperwork or something? You expect that my brilliant strategy is to lie about RL circumstances? Come on, I've been playing long enough not to be scared of being scum. Oh, and no shit my opinions on the past are about the past. I'm not gonna come in here and be like "hi I'm up to Page 70 so here's my thoughts on Page 100." I need full context. It's how my mind works. Go look at any game I've ever been behind as on either this account or my Kmd one. I catch up when I'm behind. I'm actually kind of offended that I kept putting 2-3 hours into catching up on this at a time and you say it's not scumhunting. Also, there's nothing survivalist about lurking. Lurkers get lynched. That's bullshit and you know it. Funny how I was just telling my wife I need to quit mafia and I come back to a post that shrugs off the hours I put into this game as some kind of "lol I dont wanna play cuz Im scum". Now I remember why I can't handle playing mafia.

Because Shaz revoked the reason I townread him day 3. The reason I townread him is because of his Jailkeeper crumbs.

Titus · Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:23 am

In post 3558, Egg wrote:Meh, I'm willing to hear what the result is. If she outright claims to have damning info, I'm ok with asking Shaziro to claim.

I'm an odd night Neopolitan. Checked ETL n1 got no result. Therefore, I knew I was blocked. Shaz reacted as he knew I was blocked. Pressed him on it. Says he knows I didn't kill anyone for reasons and makes a jail reference. I try to tell him to jail only on even nights if he can.

On day 3, he starts speculating that I am scum and denies the jailkeep. So fuck yeah I want an answer.

Titus · Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:36 am

In post 3561, zakk wrote:what is a neopolitan.

Checks if VT or not.

Titus · Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:36 am

It's also multi colored ice cream.

Titus · Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:49 am

VCA notes

Nos is not scum unless both Cy and Ircher are. No need to stack with 2 on wagon that has three when there would be a town wagon to get on. (1.7)

1.10
PM jumps behind Aneninen on Seth. Only scum in Ircher scum world.

Seth and TBG wagons stall. Both on town. Highly points to Magna scum

Ircher becomes a wagon. Aneninen joinsTBG...suggests Ircher scum.

1.15
Nahdia Lowell PM all get on a scum wagon. Suggests town.

Copper town gets on Anen.

1.18
Cytheflyguy jumps on TBG
Seth (conftown) is counter. Suggests scum in Expedience Nos Egg.

1.19
Wagons on conftown cannot get to lynch. Suggest scum avoidance. Maybe. (1.20)

Counter on KTS was rolefish. Neg points Egg Shotty.

Titus · Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:53 am

Ugh anen shaz less likely in 2.1. But then why can't he answer a mother fucking question? Like jeezus.

2.5
Anen is omgusing bad. Anen cy less likely.

2.7

This makes me wanna lynch Magna

Titus · Mon Jun 27, 2016 11:53 am

I will need to polish that up.

Titus · Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:37 pm

In post 1027, Titus wrote:
In post 1025, Nahdia wrote:i think we should have an Ice Cream "im sorry for Space Dandy" Social because everyone on that player list including myself has something to be sorry for tbh.

except SugarJan.
I call dibs on the multi flavored ice cream because people think I go in too many directions at once.

Talk to me about TBG? Why do you think I'm wrong there?

Neopalitan is multi flavored ice cream BTW.

Titus · Mon Jun 27, 2016 2:17 pm

He wouldn't need to know my role to buddy me day 1. Oh and future future reference, always lynch the person who must be scum first.

So how's about finally answering my god damn question.

Titus · Mon Jun 27, 2016 4:07 pm

Really, I was blocked Shaz knew. Case closed.

Titus · Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:04 pm

In post 3584, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 3583, Titus wrote:Really, I was blocked Shaz knew. Case closed.
So mafia role blocker or a town JK? How does you being blocked confirm shaz one way or the other?

He recanted the rb. Day 3. Hence the push.

Titus · Mon Jun 27, 2016 5:09 pm

I was fishing for who knew I was RB by hinting at something impossible. Shaz knew I wasn't the vig.

Titus · Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:18 am

@Magna, Great. You agree with me. Why do you think Shaz knew I was blocked?

I kinda want to Lynch shorty.

Titus · Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:31 am

In post 3613, Ircher wrote:
In post 3612, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
In post 3606, Titus wrote:@Magna, Great. You agree with me. Why do you think Shaz knew I was blocked?
Because he likely blocked you. I mean that’s the Occam’s Razor answer.

In post 2442, Shaziro wrote:
In post 2441, Titus wrote:
In post 2439, Shaziro wrote:No.
Why not?
Two reasons, the first of which is that I don't feel like you'd claim like that. The second is for ~reasons~ that would be bad for town to be outed atm.
This is his original post. The first part makes sense but is made mostly irrelevant by the “reasons” second half.

Said reasons can’t be the following –

1. Role which investigates alignment directly (Cop / Hider / etc) – He would not be voting you today under that circumstance. And Pre-Lowell claim even if he did get an Town result he couldn’t clear you of being a Vig.

2. Non-JK protective role – has no impact on whether you sent a kill.

3. Being Vig himself and Town reading you – Lowell’s claim and his reaction to said claim shows this isn’t a viable possibility.

4. Him being scum and knowing you are Town – Serial Killer (or if I am set-up wrong, opposite Mafia team) would still be a possibility.

That leaves basically on a few things that could stand up as good reasons why he would suspect you didn’t kill someone.

1. He blocked you (Roleblocker / Jailkeeper).
2. He’s a Tracker and saw you go no-where.
3. He’s a Voyeur and saw you get targeted by a blocking power.

In post 3610, Nosferatu wrote:Egg, liger, and project matt

In post 3605, SirCakez wrote:
Votecount 3.7

Not voting (2) - Nosferatu, Shaziro

Exactly.

So why then does Shaz suggest there is a simpler reason?

P.s. I rejected tracker/voyeur because of me being the investigative role.

Titus · Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:41 am

Nos, he crumbed and retracted it.

Titus · Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:44 am

In post 3618, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 3617, Titus wrote:Nos, he crumbed and retracted it.
but why would he crumb it as scum in the first place? Much more likely that he's town that doesn't want the scum team to kill him.

Gain trust. Stupid error rolling with it.

Why recant though? The recant was unpressured.

He needs to answer this. Not you.

Titus · Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:48 am

Who do you think is scum Shaz?

Titus · Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:49 am

Why wait until tomorrow?

Titus · Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:23 am

Hmmph, pm thoughts on egg?

Nos case noted. I am looking at social dynamics

Titus · Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:42 am

In post 3633, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
Titus
my question still stands, why do you think it was a town RB and not a sucm RB or a scum JK? You being blocked is NAI as hell, but youdon't seem to see it that way.

Maybe because the whole recanting I think it's scum now.

I townread Shaz due to the stupidity.

Do you seriously have an inability to do anything other than throw a tantrum?

Titus · Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:43 am

In post 3640, Nahdia wrote:
In post 3639, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 3634, Ircher wrote:Shotty, read the thread.
Stop it with your chainsaw defense! Also my question wasn't answered. I asked Titus something about Titus and Titus said something about someone who was not Titus. Then I ask again and Ircher tells me to look at Titus's thing about not Titus in regards to my question about Titus.

I'm still feeling really good about an Ircher/Titus scum team.
this is dumb.

VOTE: shotty

VOTE: Shorty

Titus · Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:45 am

Can you add egg and Cy and Magna for awhile?

I really want Shotty dead but the info gained...

Titus · Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:09 pm

And the whole Titus is only scum with Ircher lynch Titus argument wasn't?

Titus · Tue Jun 28, 2016 1:20 pm

Speed or longevity have no relation to accuracy

Titus · Tue Jun 28, 2016 4:20 pm

In post 3675, zakk wrote:
In post 3667, Titus wrote:Speed or longevity have no relation to accuracy
i don't think you have a leg to stand on when it comes to talking about accuracy

*glares* yeah, like you've never tunneled town.

Titus · Tue Jun 28, 2016 5:34 pm

Let's get rid of shotty Zakk.

Titus · Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:24 am

In post 3685, drmyshottyizsik wrote:I'm an Even Night Role Blocker, now let's move on. I crumbed with italics in a quote pyramid day one, et me find it.
Titus needs to die.

Who were your targets? Why claim so early?

Why are you still insisted on this tunnel?

Why claim instead of explaining yourself and your reads?

What are your reads?

Titus · Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:24 am

In post 3687, Shaziro wrote:I explained that my nos scumread died at the start of this game, it's nothing to do with him town reading me. You're attempting to make up associatives when there are none there. Gross.

MoI's point is not an associative.

Titus · Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:29 am

Umm I am pushing Shotty?

Titus · Wed Jun 29, 2016 3:40 am

Ok, supposing for a second that you might be town (probably are not), why would you automatically assume that everything I said is made up when I have presented actual crumbing, acted in consistent with my crumbs, even to the point where I had to claim them? Why have your reads been static since day 1? Why wouldn't you see that town would not likely have two blockers and thus me being blocked clears me?

I don't even.

Titus · Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:06 am

In post 3706, Ircher wrote:
In post 3705, Shaziro wrote:VOTE: Ircher

Something just clicked for me. Ircher just proved he is scum to me. I can't explain why tonight but I can tomorrow. Lynch this. It's to do with my ~reasons~.
Shaz/Shotty team, and Shotty is Odd-Night RB who blocked Titus N1 and N3

Got psychic powers?

And yeah checked ETL.

Titus · Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:07 am

In post 3709, Shaziro wrote:
In post 3704, Ircher wrote:
In post 3700, drmyshottyizsik wrote:Ircher I already said day 1 and that's what makes it a good crumb.
UNVOTE: Titus

Fine Titus, but I swear to god if you are scum. Everything point to you being town at this point but I'm having literal nightmares that you are scum. Honestly it may just be you and I don't know how to read you, but everything I se from you just screams scum to me.

VOTE: Ircher
Your logic doesn't line up.

If you blocked me and 3 kills still went through, then that's a partial inno. Sure, someone else could've performed the nk, but you should take these partial inno's a lot more seriously rather than completely ignore them.
Completely false, but your argument here made it make sense to me. You are scum and need to die.

If Ircher was blocked N2 with three kills going through, it suggests not SK. Thus partial inno.

Titus · Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:13 am

Umm really, ETL was dead in the graveyard N1. That doesn't make Shotty scummy. ETL claimed VT and so did Anen which meant they were the only two investigation choices for me realistically.

Titus · Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:14 am

In post 3721, Ircher wrote:It means Titus didn't target an Ascetic or Commuter and therefore was blocked

That doesn't prove Shotty did it.

Titus · Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:22 am

UNVOTE: Shotty

Titus · Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:24 am

In post 3729, drmyshottyizsik wrote:
In post 3724, Titus wrote:
In post 3721, Ircher wrote:It means Titus didn't target an Ascetic or Commuter and therefore was blocked
That doesn't prove Shotty did it.
That's because Ircher is scum and using logical fallacies to fake a stream of logic

p edit I'm pretty sure it was all in one post. I'll find it when I get back in the office.

That's beyond Ircher's skill level.

Titus · Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:34 am

Yeah, but I buy the claim. I'm more concerned that Zakk was defending too soon. Like he wants me v Shorty to go on.

@Magna, I never would have claimed if not wagoned, who was scum voting for me?

Titus · Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:39 am

In post 3744, Nahdia wrote:dudes zakk is not in the approved lynchpool

Your approved lynch pool is stopping me from investigating.

Shorty and Ircher getting along like that...

Titus · Wed Jun 29, 2016 4:52 am

In post 3751, Nosferatu wrote:
In post 3686, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
In post 3618, Nosferatu wrote:but why would he crumb it as scum in the first place? Much more likely that he's town that doesn't want the scum team to kill him.
Do you really think that makes any sense given all the gymnastics he’s done today? He couldn’t have painted a more noticeable target on his back if he tried if he is Town.
Ok, what do you think is the regular town response for what happened to Shaz? In a situation assuming that townie Tim is in fact an odd night roleblocker. Tim crumbed that you had knowledge that Titus was town for god knows what reason, and she immediately decided to hound him like a dog for it. How does Tim respond?

By denying he role blocked me D3 isn't it.

Titus · Wed Jun 29, 2016 9:37 am

In post 3759, Lowell wrote:I believe shotty's claim and believe he's probably town for it.

None of this has to do with lynching nos, egg, or magna tho, so....

I'm starting to come around on Magna lynch. He's all fine on spec but when I push him for analysis, he shuts down.

Titus · Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:45 pm

In post 3771, Shaziro wrote:Folks, seriously. Ircher is scum, he literally gave me the answer when trying to make an argument, I quoted the argument and everything. If he doesn't get lynched today, I'm gonna be a sad panda.

In post 3773, Shaziro wrote:No, I'm not. I can accept that I'm not particularly convincing, because I can't give my reasons just yet.

Assuming Ircher is scum, then why not tell town? Scum ALREADY KNOW.

Titus · Wed Jun 29, 2016 2:59 pm

In post 3775, Shaziro wrote:How do you know that scum know, Titus?

If we presume Ircher is scum.
If we presume Ircher said your answer.
Then he knows your reasons.
Therefore scum know your reasons.

Titus · Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:25 pm

VOTE: cytheflyguy

Flash counter, I don't trust the nos wagon.

Titus · Wed Jun 29, 2016 6:42 pm

Titus · Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:46 am

@Magna, Cy is good enough by himself and Zakk and I have had conflict all game. He's pushed a shitty read on me, so that does not give me confidence in his other reads being accurate.

Who do you sreamread from my prior wagon?

Titus · Sun Jul 03, 2016 3:11 pm

Cytheflyguy is confirmed town.

Titus · Sun Jul 03, 2016 3:12 pm

Shaz your explanation? Sober Titus will review in morning.

Titus · Sun Jul 03, 2016 3:12 pm

In post 3818, Nahdia wrote:Why tho

I am a Neapolitan. He's confirmed vt.

Titus · Sun Jul 03, 2016 3:24 pm

In post 3822, Nahdia wrote:dont goons show up as VT

In post 3824, Shaziro wrote:Neopolitans can only tell if they are Vanilla or a PR, Titus. At least that's what the wiki said when I read it after you claimed.

Checked with mod pregame.

Titus · Sun Jul 03, 2016 3:26 pm

Cy is conftown.

Titus · Sun Jul 03, 2016 7:09 pm

@zakk, how often is it that scum for a Readslist with zero scum on it?

Titus · Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:33 am

In post 3872, Untrod Tripod wrote:maybe he's a MAFIA VIG

DUN DUN DUN

vote shaz
though seriously

Mafia vig is impossible

Titus · Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:40 am

Ok, either there's a town Roleblocker or the scum roleblocker got blocked last night. I should not have gotten a result if it was a scum blocker alone, unless Lowell's reads were good or paranoia.

Shaz is definitely SK. We should lynch him.

Titus · Mon Jul 04, 2016 6:04 am

VOTE: Shaz

Titus · Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:36 am

In post 3908, Nahdia wrote:ok still tho point remains why kill rolestopper over neapolitan. that's bad. that's real bad.

I was blocked night 1.

Titus · Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:39 am

In post 3905, Nahdia wrote:ok so working under the assumption it's 5-3 here:

i'm town, zakk is town, egg is town. i think.

one of liger/MoI is town. probably not both?

projectmatt, titus, cythefly remain. 2/3 scum in there.

5-3 means we gamesolve but only lynch if we feel the game is solved.

I do feel that one of Liger or MoI is town, at least.
I am town.
Cy is conftown.

Two of Egg/Nahdia/PM/Zakk are town.

I think a review is in order, of everything.

I have a cold, so give me time.

Titus · Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:40 am

Murdering me also conftowns Cy.

I do hink massclaim issss in order. If we hit the scum roleblocker, that forces scum to murder me and conftown Cy.

Titus · Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:18 pm

I am actually agreeing with Zakk here....

Titus · Thu Jul 07, 2016 2:18 pm

I need to look at the votes again...

Titus · Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:01 pm

Cy, can you unvote. I need to stare at the VCs.

Titus · Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:31 pm

Pr or vt only first.

Then Nahdia you should.

We chain massclaim.

Titus · Fri Jul 08, 2016 4:33 am

@Magna, They were never going to after blocking me N1.

Titus · Fri Jul 08, 2016 4:33 am

And the whole town roleblocker is dead...

Titus · Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:17 am

@Magna, massclaim makes it harder for scum and forces them towards shooting me or blocking me tonight. A mass claim forces scum to match my result, generating way too many PRs, or leave themselves vulnerable to my role outing them. Thus forcing the night play.

If we do lynch the scum blocker, and we have a protective role, worst case scenario we enter tomorrow with a conftown.

Titus · Fri Jul 08, 2016 7:37 am

In post 3944, Nahdia wrote:I don't particularly want to claim. Matt I wanted you to claim because you're my top scumread.

Sorry. Massclaim means all claim. I wouldn't mind Cy not claiming BC conftown but for him to b conftown means obvious role outage.

Titus · Fri Jul 08, 2016 9:33 am

In post 3949, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
MOD – I’ll be V/LA from today at 5pm EDT until Monday morning for normal weekend duties.

In post 3948, Titus wrote:Sorry. Massclaim means all claim. I wouldn't mind Cy not claiming BC conftown but for him to b conftown means obvious role outage.
This post makes me itch …

Why?

By stating conftown don't need to claim in a massclaim?

If my clear didn't reveal his told, but I was a Sherriff instead Cy shouldn't claim. My role necessarily outed his.

Interesting tactic Magna...

Titus · Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:06 am

Great. So Nahdia is IC, Cy is town. I am town. That's three lock town.

Titus · Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:07 am

Egg and Zakk are up to claim.

Definitely not Nahdia.

Titus · Fri Jul 08, 2016 10:32 am

Meh, I don't think you're scum zakk but not willing to write you off as obvtown.

I like pm Magna by VCs.

Titus · Fri Jul 08, 2016 4:21 pm

Foundation error: how are you supposing which kill is which?

Titus · Fri Jul 08, 2016 5:05 pm

Walk me through it calmly please.

Titus · Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:21 pm

Yeah in Liger v Magna, I am feeling Magna as the lynch.

Vca suggests Magna and PM to me...

Titus · Sun Jul 10, 2016 5:12 am

@Zakk, I want to hear all claims and lynch desires first.

Titus · Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:08 am

In post 4046, Creature wrote:I am town reading Nahdia (obviously), Titus, zakk and MoI.

In post 4048, Creature wrote:Therefore it must be Egg/cytheflyguy/projectmatt.

Does not compute.

I have an innocent on Cytheflyguy

Titus · Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:12 am

Try again with your reads...

Titus · Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:26 am

I need to get over this cold and stare at VCs

Titus · Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:27 am

My gut says Egg = town and PM is the best lynch. My gut also says Zakk is town.

Titus · Mon Jul 11, 2016 11:33 am

That's helpful. Although I will be treating myself and cy as conftown in my analysis.

Titus · Mon Jul 11, 2016 1:15 pm

Can someone unvote? It's likely right but I have reading to do.

Titus · Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:00 pm

@Egg, Who are you willing to lynch in Zakk/PM?

Titus · Mon Jul 11, 2016 4:46 pm

Pm, out of the vts, which two would you be willing to lynch? Which neighbor?

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:50 pm

Ok. Why is Zakk town? He's been pushing on townies forever (not just me).

Titus · Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:46 pm

@Zakk, Can you shut up and let me process? We won that mini.

I will look at the votes. We will win.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 3:36 am

In post 4112, Creature wrote:
In post 4104, zakk wrote:zakk/projectmatt/egg/creature/magnaofillusion

that's a 60% chance of hitting scum
Shouldn't we try to choose the most obvious/safe option then?

When the lynchpool agrees on itself, that's a suggested problem.

Pretty sure the proper play is lynch pM, lynch Magna, and then have the last two towns try to agree on who to lynch in Egg/Zakk.

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:37 am

I'm not taking 3 hours to color up what my vca already knows.

Zakk may be scum because we agree.

VOTE: PM[/vote\

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 6:38 am

VOTE: PM

Titus · Wed Jul 13, 2016 7:53 am

Conftown has hammer if contested lynch. Always.

Unfortunately, you will likely die because conftown and I will live because of my uncertainty.

Titus · Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:34 pm

@cytheflyguy, I think Magna's the lynch

I really don't want to decide between egg and zakk

@all, no result, but frankly duhhhh

Titus · Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:38 pm

N1, no result (pretty obvious early on)
N3, cytheflyguy is a vt, claimed D4
N5, no result, claimed D6

Titus · Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:42 pm

@creature, assuming only one of the vts is scum, who do you want lynched?

Titus · Fri Jul 15, 2016 4:51 pm

@egg, who do you wanna lynch? I am so confused...help me...

Titus · Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:15 pm

In post 4140, zakk wrote:so chuffed @ that flip! but what does it say about the wagon?
everyone who was SUPER SURE projectmatt was scum, could have also been scum hoping he wasn't a traitor

also, hate to bring it up again but
is there ANY WAY that Titus could be scum?

gut says no because I wouldn't have been left alive unless I was a lock to push Titus as scum probably
but she and Magna keep trying to insist that I am which gives me heebie jeebies

I think it's mooost likely Magna/egg with a small outside chance of Magna/Titus

Needless to say:
VOTE: MagnaofIllusion

I don't see Magna insisting on anything.

Titus · Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:21 pm

In post 3311, projectmatt wrote:Short version of that wall:

Town:
Titus, Zakk, Nahdia, Lowell, Ircher, Egg, Magna, Shotty

Scum:
Nosferatu, Egg, Shaziro, Liger (?)

I'm not gonna bother with the vig exercise right now.

Vote: Nosferatu

Did no one notice egg was a town and scumread for PM

Titus · Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:29 pm

In post 4148, Creature wrote:Magna did.

And which of the vts did he want to lynch?

Titus · Fri Jul 15, 2016 6:07 pm

We are not no lynching.

I know who I want to lynch today but I am playing it close.

Tomorrow will be hard, as I dunno about you.

Titus · Fri Jul 15, 2016 6:50 pm

@Zakk, let's be real here.

I die then Cy is conftown.
We hit a scum correctly. That leaves 1 scum left.

Unless we think 2 or zero neighbors are scum, then that strongly puts me as town.

If you're town Zakk, I need you to trust me to get it right.

Did I fail you in the last mini?

Titus · Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:05 pm

Ok, if you're town, I will get there.

for now, I really just don't know about you ok?

Titus · Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:10 pm

I've already decided for today.

Titus · Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:11 pm

I just don't know about that.

Titus · Fri Jul 15, 2016 7:12 pm

In post 4164, zakk wrote:Ok long story short: try to convince me someone besides Magna (and me) is scum,and I will sincerely look into it

I want to hear everyone. If scum thinks I suspect them, they will not talk.

Titus · Fri Jul 15, 2016 8:29 pm

*puts the dishes back*

Titus · Sat Jul 16, 2016 3:54 am

If Magna does not get in here and explain why Zakk, I am going to get really confident they are scum playing a Wifom game...

Titus · Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:01 am

In post 4175, zakk wrote:I'll tell you what Magna is gonna do. He's gonna

1. Come back and be real condescending
2. Criticize people (prob me) for spamming
3. Come up with some "gotcha" reason I'm scum
4. Throw shade on no more and no less than one other person besides me
5. Seem really matter of fact about his entire delivery

I want to see who he picks.

Titus · Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:27 am

VOTE: Magna

Magna's in prod range. He's posting elsewhere. I think this is a bus on Magna to force me to decide between Egg and Zakk. Oh no!

Titus · Sat Jul 16, 2016 12:32 pm

If Magna might contribute ok, but I don't see it.

Hammer away if you want Cy.

Titus · Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:00 pm

Creature, we're lynching Egg tomorrow imo.

Sorry for the routine Zakk, but I had to act that way to get egg to talk.

Titus · Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:08 pm

I was doing wink wink nudge nudge.

During that entire

convo, I was not scumreading you.

Titus · Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:09 pm

In post 4232, cytheflyguy wrote:Why would he joke about this?

We lost :/

I think that was creature won the 1 v 1.

Titus · Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:12 pm

Egg, tell me, why didn't you RB me n3? We prolly lose if you had?