New York 196: My Game, My Flavor Mafia (Mafia Win)

[Zachstralkita]

Fuck no, I want Vedith.

[Zachstralkita]

I'm not moving my vote off of Vedith, Dunn can do what he wants.

[Zachstralkita]

I can't stand for that mandatory fakeclaiming is scum on principle bullshit, by the way.

[Zachstralkita]

@podo I know what you mean, as I 've considered replacing out as well. 1 or 2 people fake claiming on d1 is horrendous enough, but 4 people?? Good grief.

If we don't resolve any of this by day 2, I'm just leaving. I never thought there would be a game so bad I wanted to replace out of it, but I just can't work with people who genuinely don't have their own self interest in mind.

Who doesn't have their own self interest at mind? I thought Titus was scum?

[Zachstralkita]

well that's subjective buddy since I believe neither of them are scum, but if you want to let absolutes dictate your actions then go right ahead because there's many people who agree with you.

[Zachstralkita]

well that's subjective buddy since I believe neither of them are scum, but if you want to let absolutes dictate your actions then go right ahead because there's many people who agree with you.

Here is the absolute I'm dealing with, are you ready for it?

If a player is damaging to town, you should lynch them.

I believe Titus is likely scum, which is obviously damaging to town. Regardless, she is

incredibly

damaging to town.

Again, not stopping you just like you're not gonna stop me when she flips town and I laugh.

[Zachstralkita]

Dunn cease that vanity wagon on podo

Titus is town for the love of christ have some fucking intuition we know how fucking awful that play was

Ok bye

[Zachstralkita]

AND HE VOTES aGaR HOLY SHIT

[Zachstralkita]

There's scum present on Agar/Titus wagons at the very least.

I'm so disheartened that you're all so opposed to Vedith.

[Zachstralkita]

Vedith wagon >>> Titus wagon

[Zachstralkita]

There hasn't been a god damn flip uet and we're talking about multiball already?

[Zachstralkita]

the agar wagon is just an excuse for people who don't want to be scrutinized for leaving the titus wagon

[Zachstralkita]

Hunh. Oh well. they're still both shit wagons.

I'm not sure what to think of Vedith switching his vote to shannon just for that Dunn stuff LOL

[Zachstralkita]

^^ If Sickofit is lean scum to you it shouldn't matter the amount of " info " the flip provides -- a scumflip is a scumflip

So from your POV Agar > Sickofit in terms of scumminess?

Also don't be silly a lot of people's " town play " has already lost us this game in theory

[Zachstralkita]

I'm up for voting Agar if needed.
I'm also up for revealing my role for people to decide if they want me lynched or not, considering there is 5 days or so left. As this stage, my opinions still haven't changed on where I favor and I doubt my opinion on it will change so easily.
Due to that, if you actually think that I'm being anti town (regardless if you have other reasons or not to call me scum) with being so stubborn over the opinion, then it's a case of whatever.
Glad to see a second wagon actually forming though, otherwise it was just an obvious scum push.

Other than that, I don't really know what else to go with on this day from my side. I'm not going to individually comment on votes for me and there's no point in me wasting towns time in flip flopping if you can make a better choice on my details.

WHAT THE FUCK.

Soft PR claim from Ved.

NICE EYE THERE MAGNUM FUCKIN PI


In light of these developments my vote is switching:

VOTE: Performer

(Case inbound! If that fails I'll switch to Mirhawk)

Dunn's openly advocating lynches without claims.

the guy wasn't even at L-1 or L-2 or L-3 or L-4. i enjoy you shifting things to make them look the way you want them to, though.

[Zachstralkita]

I had a case typed up on Performer but I just wanted to ask Dunn...

So you weren't really masons... in that case, what is the real reason that you townread Titus since game start? You say you townread Lapsa to " mask " Titus so to speak, but now that you being masons is an admitted fakeclaim....

[Zachstralkita]

is that what you can't say? LOL I'll carry on then

[Zachstralkita]

ok a performer d1 wagon is a bit naive on my part not to mention i haven't said anything about him

and whY THE FUCK ARE WE CLAIMING VT UNPROMPTED?????

[Zachstralkita]

I really don't get this AGar scumread.

Anyways.

VOTE: Vedith

[Zachstralkita]

ISOing Performer (88 posts):

Since I'm only explaining my reads here I need not go through anything beyond his opening post.

"Vote No Lynch" is enough for me to get a town read on him.

Contrary to popular belief, only TOWN would suggest a No Lynch so openly and that early. Scum know this move will put them at the very center of everyone's suspects list. Personally, I wouldn't dare suggest it if I was scum (and I wouldn't dare fake claim on D1 either). I know YMMD and all, but that's how I classify Performer until further notice. Nothing in his ISO makes me think otherwise either.

Mirhawk (88 posts):

By implication, his early duel with Sick over Performer's NL suggestion makes him a slight town lean. However, most of his posts are one liners and uninformative.

I did like him asking about LAMIST, bc I didn't know what that was, but assumed it was a misspelled derivation of "lame"

I also like his stance on the mason claims.

Conclusion: Upon reread I'm relegating him from Town to Town-Lean.

There's nothing scummy in his ISO, but there's nothing strongly indicative of him being town either.

N.B. Shannon is now conf!town to me. The role claim was uncalled for, but it was also out of the blue (i.e. there was not much pressure on her).

I wouldn't be lynching here bc -although uninformed- that's a vote that can help us.

Scum are informed and will know where to vote

9and it certainly isn't in town's favour),

while town -no matter how uninformed- are more likely to hit on scum sooner or later

, besides.. if scum want to shoot her she's doing exactly what a VT should be doing, i.e. eating a bullet for the town PRs.

Everyone else has posted over 100 posts, and I'm not about to ISO them anytime soon.

I'll wait and see how the day (and night) go before I start doing that.

Also, welcome beeboy.

Huh? What the fuck did I just read? This is among 5 worst posts in the game.

I'd like to know the other 4.

[Zachstralkita]

I'd like to know the other 4.

Lapsa's Interactions

25 - dunnstral vote
28 - dunnstral
32 - implosion
35 - implosion
190 - performer
191 - dunnstral
192 - wake88
203 - dunnstral unvote
206 - implosion
210 - sickofit
213 - dunnstral
215 - zachstral
217 - shannon
218 - nosferatu/transcend
219 - boem
281 - titus
282 - performer
284 - zachstral
287 - boem
288 -

mirhawk

(looks like distancing instead of a real thought process)
289 - zachstral
294 - podoboq
296 - zachstral
298 - zachstral
302 - peregrine
305 - almost50
346 - podoboq
414 - podoboq
415 - shannon
416 - performer
417 - performer
419 - implosion
420 - implosion (reads list, leaves out mirhawk)
421 - podoboq
452 - podoboq
454 - zachstral
456 - titus
462 - titus vote
498 - titus
502 - zachstral
504 - titus
521 - lapsa
539 - titus
566 - titus
567 - agar
623 - dunnstral
626 - wake88
627 -

mirhawk

vote (looks like distancing)
699 - zachstral
703 - zachstral
704 - zachstral
709 - zachstral
711 - zachstral
716 - zachstral
718 - varsoon
721 - zachstral
729 - zachstral
734 - zachstral/titus vote (asked to question mirhawk; doesn't)
739 - read list (mirhawk mafia - no interaction)
742 -

mirhawk

(strange, saying it is worth towncred when it came before his reads list, but doesn't influence it)

Past this point, he never interacts with mirhawk again.

Mirhawk's Interactions

16 - podoboq vote
88 - sickofit
196 - sickofit
200 - dunnstral
243 - wake88
244 - performer
251 - zachstral
252 - performer
432 - dunnstral
435 - performer
639 - boem
640 - performer
641 - dunnstral
644 - shannon
645 - transcend
649 - mirhawk
650 - performer
652 - zachstral
655 - zachstral
656 -

lapsa

(about the macho claim, aka filler)
657 - zachstral
658 - zachstral
660 - titus
662 - transcend
664 - dunnstral
665 - varsoon
667 - zachstral vote
717 - zachstral
719 - zachstral
731 - dunnstral
735 - zachstral
737 - dunnstral
740 -

lapsa

(about painbringer, aka filler)

He never talks about Lapsa past this point (until now when I brought them up as a scum team)



Also notable: both don't interact with Almost50 in that time frame

In post 2335, Almost50 town reads both Lapsa and Mirhawk
In post 2549 I ask Almost50 to do an iso of mirhawk; he goes on to do one of performer who is of similar length to mirhawk, but gives an excuse about length for "not doing other people"
Almost50 also responded to the macho claim by Lapsa, in 423

[Zachstralkita]

What scumteam would nightkill shannon?

One that wants to deprive town from (a) one conf!town, and (b) someone who IS voting them off

How is shannon conftown? Saying you're VT doesn't necessarily make it so, and even then she has to realize her claim was an anti-town move to begin with.

[Zachstralkita]

How is shannon conftown? Saying you're VT doesn't necessarily make it so, and even then she has to realize her claim was an anti-town move to begin with.

At least half of us have done anti-town stuff, mate. I ask again, and I want you to THINK about it.. when you had less than 5 games under your belt, would you have claimed ANYTHING as scum with just 2 votes on you (i.e. L-8)????

OK, second question: If you felt the heat and wanted to gambit -as scum- would you have claimed a VT in a CLOSED SETUP??

I feel like the chances of me doing that would be slightly higher than me claiming mason with a townie? Idk maybe I'm a pussy

[Zachstralkita]

What's goin' on in the thought compartmentalizations Transcizzle, I'm going to be thoroughly interrogating you this game (think guantanamo bay with jumper cables) so I don't get tomato mafia'd again.

[Zachstralkita]

Hey buddy where's your reads list this game?

[Zachstralkita]

....I was one of the original proprietors of this wagon..... I have nothing to do with any of this you all should feel bad

[Zachstralkita]

LmFaO LOL but ffs what is this amateur hour? I'd rather be a fake mason than a L-indicator ignorer

[Zachstralkita]

At least he didnt drmyshottyizsik himself

[Zachstralkita]

How is Zachstralkita worth insta-lynching? You little fuck you think you and Performer can scum it up this game and no one will take notice? My crusade for you begins Day 2.

Unless I were to die.

[Zachstralkita]

The scumteam is in Performer/podoboq/Implosion/PeregrineV/shannon

Leaving this here for when the flips happen mad flipz bruv

[Zachstralkita]

Yeah but podo is town

And so is performer most likely.

Listen they just happen to look town ok? Pretty sure Performer's gonna pistol whip you in your sleep til blood is spurting out of the bridge of your fucking nose and I will not provide a Kleenex, you heretic.

[Zachstralkita]

The scumteam is in Performer/podoboq/Implosion/PeregrineV/shannon

Leaving this here for when the flips happen mad flipz bruv

That list doesn't include Titus, so there's no way it's even remotely close to correct.

Except... Titus would be town go ahead cast all the fucking doubt you want on me though you doubt cloud

[Zachstralkita]

if I thought Titus was scum we would have lynched Titus about 40 fucking pages ago but I connected all the puzzle pieces and Titus and Dunn are both town

In order for Titus to possibly be scum, Dunn has to be scum as well and there's no fucking way that's what happened

Why didn't we just rope implosion

Oh well

i didn't have anyone to help me engage in a fucking frontal attack because you only show up afterward to criticize my decisions and spur on my alcoholism

[Zachstralkita]

In order for Titus to possibly be scum, Dunn has to be scum as well and there's no fucking way that's what happened

I can see Titus mafia and Dunn town lol.

Titus says she claimed to save Dunn.

In a world where that's a fucking scum gambit, they both have to be scum because scum does not initiate a mason claim with a god damned townie, for fuck's sake.

podo does not see that because that scum role PM constricts his vision like a leopard-print blindfold usually used in any S&M situations involving myself.

The other people who I believe are Town that think Titus is scum are too caught up in their preconceptions, I imagine.

[Zachstralkita]

Podo you're honestly doing a lot of guilt tripping lol.

I'm angry. In reality, shannon is prob scum, Dunn is prob useless town, and Titus is probably ego-tripping town who doesn't care if she destroys town as long as she gets to pull CUHRAZY gambits.

You say this after you've claimed Titus is scum and insinuated most of Vedith's wagon was scum as a result of that.

The scumteam is in Performer/podoboq/Implosion/PeregrineV/shannon

Leaving this here for when the flips happen mad flipz bruv

That list doesn't include Titus, so there's no way it's even remotely close to correct.

Why didn't we just rope implosion

Oh well

The same reason we didn't rope Titus. The scum wanted to lynch town.

Congratulations, YOU'RE our Day 2 rope winner!

remember this when i die

[Zachstralkita]

I can buy that you're angry. But it is what it is. Ic is basically the equivalent of clear vt. No massive loss there.

& To my knowledge he wasn't cleared at all.


anyways you guys have me, so I pretty much can just replace dude as IC.

[Zachstralkita]

vc ~

Titus (3):

Lapsa, Varsoon, Wake88

Vedith (10):

AGar, Performer, PeregrineV, Zachstralkita,

beeboy,

Titus, Transcend,

Boem_u_dusi,

shannon, Dunnstral

AGar (4):

Airick10, Almost50, podoboq, implosion

shannon (2):

Vedith, Mirhawk

Not Voting:

People worth insta lynching in purple.

;-;

Maybe Transcend can get a pass
Would really prefer insta-killing

Titus

,

Dunn

, or shannon.

The names in light pink are the ones podo called scum before he called them both town a few moments ago.

remember this again when i die

[Zachstralkita]

Except what the fuck are they going to do? Claim mason again and fuck up some more shit?

Oh, so they're the correct lynch. You shouldn't really be mad about the IC being lynched, then, because you're pretty much going to lynch two more townies and not give a shit. That's called apathy. Spell that one out for me.

[Zachstralkita]

He also did not want to " policy lynch " them until a few moments ago. From his posts and tone you can infer they were solidly scum and they're only town to him now because he's backpedaling out of it.

[Zachstralkita]

I'm thinking 70% you flip scum here,

[Zachstralkita]

Why didn't we just rope implosion

Oh well

The same reason we didn't rope Titus. The scum wanted to lynch town.

This blatantly implies once again that Titus was scum. It also implies implosion is scum.

Except, if I'm reading your policy lynch thing right, the Titus wagon would have been town lynching town?


You're quoting posts you made 1000 posts ago to try and trump ones you made like 10 posts ago.

If you're lynching someone on policy and you believe they're just awful town, you don't only mention it after I say something about you calling them scum.

The scumteam is in Performer/podoboq/Implosion/PeregrineV/shannon

Leaving this here for when the flips happen mad flipz bruv

That list doesn't include Titus, so there's no way it's even remotely close to correct.

" That list doesn't include Titus, so there's no way it's even remotely close to correct.




- Titus isn't on that list of scum players, so there's no way that that list is accurate because Titus isn't on it and Titus is scum.







- Titus is scum. "

[Zachstralkita]

HAHAHA whaddya fucking know i was the second initial person on Nos' wagon and look how THAT turned out. yw



Wake town by the way, because his reactions to the hammer I felt were genuine


I still don't want to vote Titus.

[Zachstralkita]

1902 - Vedith: '

Titus had a very strong argument to being town. Detail why I should vote her.

'

Btw I'm pretty sure this was satire as Titus basically said " hey, I'm town x is town vote x "

[Zachstralkita]

2117 - Wake:

Nosferatu did not provide content.

Why exactly are you all going after Vedith?

Give me a sentence or two. Some sort of content.

2118 - Dunnstral: 'He's Mafia'

This actually pisses me off. Dunnstral never wanted to vote Vedith/Nos slot in the first place.

[Zachstralkita]

2117 - Wake:

Nosferatu did not provide content.

Why exactly are you all going after Vedith?

Give me a sentence or two. Some sort of content.

2118 - Dunnstral: 'He's Mafia'

This actually pisses me off. Dunnstral never wanted to vote Vedith/Nos slot in the first place.

Meaning that Dunnstral pisses you off?

Yep


I'm very disheartened to say that for some reason today they seem more plausible as scum and they haven't even posted yet LMFAO

Why kill Lapsa???

FINALLY we have some real data to chew on.

Going back to start and look at interactions.

tinfoil: Titus did it because all Lapsa was going to do all game was call her dumb

[Zachstralkita]

1237 - Zach: '

Why exactly are you opposed to lynching Nosferatu?

'
1238 - Titus:

1. There's nothing scummy in his ISO.
2. The subout was really townie.
3. Wake wants to lynch him and is pushing it.
4. Wake is willing to lynch Sick of it and not pushing it.
5. Every single other push by Wake (myself, Dunn, boem) lately has been obvious town, so anything he wants I am opposed to.
6. Any reason given to lynch Nos fits others better.

This is a really bad look for Titus

1 is bullshit

2. ya get the fuck out of here (I actually think this doesn't lend credibility to Titus being scum, it might just be an example of her bad reads - she scumread me, for fuck's sake)

3. ....

4. ........................

5 that's uh.. that's... yeah...

6. bullshit


However I'm still going to vote Performer.

He's been a wallflower this entire game in terms of gamesolving, no solid stances because all of his stances are so flexible that they can switch at any time for any reason. He does not commit to anything that he can't weasel out of. If you don't believe me, read his ISO.

That is all.

VOTE: Performer

[Zachstralkita]

The most obvious one is Performer with his weak ass townread on Vedith.

Can you help me out with this? I know Dunnstral's gonna swoop in here and cite some bullshit reason why Performer is town.

podoboq is another choice but something about his reaction to Vedith's claim puts me off from that lynch at the moment....


Titus, if you're not getting lynched today Wake definitely isn't.

I will wagon myself before that happens.

[Zachstralkita]

I want to wagon Wake or Varsoon, depending on Wake's answer.

Do your scumreads ever exist outside of people that vote you?

[Zachstralkita]

I want to wagon Wake or Varsoon, depending on Wake's answer.

Do your scumreads ever exist outside of people that vote you?

Yes.

I remove

liars

and

drama stirrers.

Lack of energy has prevented me from collapsing a lung laughing at this.

Do you..... not remember fakeclaiming mason yesterday?

By the way, a Wake wagon is not happening under any circumstance and I'm against a Varsoon wagon.

[Zachstralkita]

1237 - Zach: '

Why exactly are you opposed to lynching Nosferatu?

'
1238 - Titus:

1. There's nothing scummy in his ISO.
2. The subout was really townie.
3. Wake wants to lynch him and is pushing it.
4. Wake is willing to lynch Sick of it and not pushing it.
5. Every single other push by Wake (myself, Dunn, boem) lately has been obvious town, so anything he wants I am opposed to.
6. Any reason given to lynch Nos fits others better.

This is a really bad look for Titus

1 is bullshit

2. ya get the fuck out of here (I actually think this doesn't lend credibility to Titus being scum, it might just be an example of her bad reads - she scumread me, for fuck's sake)

3. ....

4. ........................

5 that's uh.. that's... yeah...

6. bullshit


However I'm still going to vote Performer.

He's been a wallflower this entire game in terms of gamesolving, no solid stances because all of his stances are so flexible that they can switch at any time for any reason. He does not commit to anything that he can't weasel out of. If you don't believe me, read his ISO.

That is all.

VOTE: Performer

Performer also soft-defended Vedith.

[Zachstralkita]

I should have included a caveat there that forced gambits are not in that category.

Well we are going to have problems on wagon selection because I was the counter to Vedith so my wagon is the natural place to look for scum.

It would have been a fucking US Government level caveat considering no one held a gun to your head and made you do that gambit on account of Dunn being so obvtown.

If he died last night it would have been all for nothing.

I also disagree, scum probably bussed Vedith to look better

[Zachstralkita]

I'm not against wagoning Wake because Titus wants it. I'm against wagoning Wake cause he is super fucking town.

If you had to kill a townie, you're better off killing me. In fact, you're better off killing shannon who

claimed VT

to help us out!

Yes, I'm hard defending the shit out of him right now. I do not care.

Zach, the game rules made me. It's a pretty small one.

If Dunn died, the gambit would be fine. I would have been proven right and the fact I couldn't defend him from lynch makes my actions more understandable.

Scum bussed Vedith when they could lol policy lynch me? No. My wagon was chock full of scum.

Whatever, I'm not arguing that shit now.


WHY would they policy lynch you? What exactly have you DONE? If you had your way Vedith would be kicking his feet up sipping a fucking pina colada right now and one of Varsoon, Sickofit (beeboy) [Town], Wake, or Me would be dead. All townies.

Scum bussed Vedith for towncred. There could have been scum on BOTH of your wagons.

[Zachstralkita]

Zach, why wouldn't scum policy lynch me? Zero content, zero risk. Scum is the main counter in Vedith. Your Varsoon and Wake reads such. Beeboy is likely town. Also look at podog when I make that statement. Lapsa (town) said he'd tunnel me to no end. Easy content less pushes is where scum are.

If scum want to look better able to defend themselves they wouldn't go for an easy lynch.

But again, they could have been split up on both of the wagons. It does not have to be black or white.


Your tunnel on Wake is the worst possible thing that could happen this game. Varsoon isn't a good choice either. I urge you to re-analyze your decisions.

[Zachstralkita]

Wake, do you think scum!Titus would go out of her way to fakeclaim to save DUNN on the grounds that DUNN is OBVTOWN and also connect him to her by fakeclaiming MASONS, then RETRACT THE CLAIM and openly tunnel the same people who were voting her? Where is the sense in that?


Answer me this.

I don't and that's why I'm hesitant to vote Titus. But if the wagons were Wake and Titus, I would not hesitate to vote Titus.

BUT THAT WON'T HAPPEN BECAUSE WE'RE VOTING PERFORMER.

[Zachstralkita]

Basically what I'm saying Wake, is for Titus to be scum Dunn has to be scum 99/100 times.

Zach, why wouldn't scum policy lynch me? Zero content, zero risk. Scum is the main counter in Vedith. Your Varsoon and Wake reads such. Beeboy is likely town. Also look at podog when I make that statement. Lapsa (town) said he'd tunnel me to no end. Easy content less pushes is where scum are.

If scum want to look better able to defend themselves they wouldn't go for an easy lynch.

But again, they could have been split up on both of the wagons. It does not have to be black or white.


Your tunnel on Wake is the worst possible thing that could happen this game. Varsoon isn't a good choice either. I urge you to re-analyze your decisions.

Oh, I see more do what I want threats.

Why are you intent on having me lie? Your choice is suddenly townread people hellbent on being scummy or else.

From MY perspective, Varsoon has tunnelled exclusively on town, CCed solely so that I would remain lynchable AND tunneled me with no comment on anyone else. Varsoon fits the profile of how I scumhunt on who should be scum. So why are you townreading him?

Do what you want but I will derail the lynch by any means necessary. Have your pride take the backseat for a little bit.

[Zachstralkita]

Wake, do you think scum!Titus would go out of her way to fakeclaim to save DUNN on the grounds that DUNN is OBVTOWN and also connect him to her by fakeclaiming MASONS, then RETRACT THE CLAIM and openly tunnel the same people who were voting her? Where is the sense in that?


Answer me this.

I don't and that's why I'm hesitant to vote Titus. But if the wagons were Wake and Titus, I would not hesitate to vote Titus.

BUT THAT WON'T HAPPEN BECAUSE WE'RE VOTING PERFORMER.

Listen to me please.

Titus is more skilled than you know. I can never be certain what she is doing. Do not underestimate Titus.

At least vote her to pressure her. You don't have to commit to a lynch, but at least get some pressure on her so we can stir up even more invaluable actions and reactions we can analyze later.

Hey, my name's Paul and this shit's between y'all.

Spoiler:

I'm gonna stay on Performer. I want pressure on Performer. No one is going to go for that lynch without me. Performer scum.

[Zachstralkita]

P.S. Wake's recent posting is blatant psychological manipulation. By putting Titus, Nos and the color red together, he wants players to associate these things together and is trying to use underhanded tactics and ignore what goes against him.

Oh wow and now Wake is trying to get town to vote me while abandoning any pretense I can be proven scum because he cherrypicks and even Zach knows it.

With your actions he does not need psychological manipulation to get people to vote you, trust me.

You and Wake are TvT. I am trying to clear you to him and trying to clear him to you. It's NOT WORKING.

IF THIS IS THE PRIMARY TOPIC OF OUR DAY WE ARE GOING TO BE FUCKED.

[Zachstralkita]

Then let me back out of the thread. Wake is going to do nothing but tunnel me drowning out everyone else, and I read others by iteracting with them and how they interact with others. I will also not be interrupting your Performer push. Wake has to prove himself town. You cannot. I have had some suspicion on Wake since before he entered and his checkbox post didn't help. Cherry picking is scummy. Wake has to do something townie for me to townread him. Which means getting out of the thread so your Performer push can happen and YOU can see you are wrong.

I'd feel much more comfortable backing out of the thread and letting you push Wake so he flips Town LMFAO just to spite you

Have fun see you in a bit

[Zachstralkita]

Then let me back out of the thread. Wake is going to do nothing but tunnel me drowning out everyone else, and I read others by iteracting with them and how they interact with others. I will also not be interrupting your Performer push. Wake has to prove himself town. You cannot. I have had some suspicion on Wake since before he entered and his checkbox post didn't help. Cherry picking is scummy. Wake has to do something townie for me to townread him. Which means getting out of the thread so your Performer push can happen and YOU can see you are wrong.

I'd feel much more comfortable backing out of the thread and letting you push Wake so he flips Town LMFAO just to spite you

Have fun see you in a bit

I am not getting lynched today.

The only way Titus will get rid of me is if she NKs me tonight, but she'll also die in the attempt, or one of her teammates.

I wasn't serious, I'm too invested in this game to throw it LOL

[Zachstralkita]

I'm a 1-shot vigilante, I shot Lapsa.

.................

Why did you kill

Lapsa

, Dunnstral?

I'm not answering dumb questions like that. Get off of Titus and stop asking me stuff

You should know why

...........................................................................

Read: I'm having a hard time making up something that sounds reasonable



Ok scum probably targeted me LMFAO but I had someone looking out for me

[Zachstralkita]

where are these performer votes guys.. why dont you contribute to a good cause

[Zachstralkita]

where are these performer votes guys.. why dont you contribute to a good cause

Can you do something useful???

Why performer?

FUCK YOU MEAN DO SOMETHING USEFUL??

I originally wanted Nos' lynch in the first place

And I explained it already (not in the same way you " explained" why you shot Lapsa)

Wee a lynch

vc 1.22

Titus (3):

Lapsa

, Varsoon, Wake88

Vedith

(10):

AGar, Performer, PeregrineV, Zachstralkita, beeboy, Titus, Transcend, Boem_u_dusi, shannon, Dunnstral

AGar (4):

Airick10, Almost50, podoboq, implosion

shannon (2):

Mirhawk, Vedith

Not Voting:

None

The last 6 people on all quick wagoned Vedith (and I townread all of them)

PERFORMER WAS PARKED ON VEDITH....

that doesn't matter


?????? you want to lynch A50 LMFAO

[Zachstralkita]

i dont like a50 lynch


scum are gonna coast through this game

[Zachstralkita]

@Zach can I get you to explain why performer?

He's been a wallflower this entire game in terms of gamesolving, no solid stances because all of his stances are so flexible that they can switch at any time for any reason. He does not commit to anything that he can't weasel out of. If you don't believe me, read his ISO.

That is all.

VOTE: Performer

And he soft defended Vedith.

i dont like a50 lynch


scum are gonna coast through this game

How about that fabled implosion lynch did you see his post

what about that post pinged you?

[Zachstralkita]

i dont like a50 lynch


scum are gonna coast through this game

Why and why?

Of all the people on AGar wagon to vote he is one of the least favorable candidates. I actually was planning on voting him daystart but it was largely for reasons that will not be disclosed at this point in time


Why? Because town are going to tunnel town into the fucking ground

I don't think Zach is on the same team as Nosferatu.

Spoiler:

GET YOUR OWN IMAGES

[Zachstralkita]

@Zach can I get you to explain why performer?

He's been a wallflower this entire game in terms of gamesolving, no solid stances because all of his stances are so flexible that they can switch at any time for any reason. He does not commit to anything that he can't weasel out of. If you don't believe me, read his ISO.

That is all.

VOTE: Performer

And he soft defended Vedith.

i dont like a50 lynch


scum are gonna coast through this game

How about that fabled implosion lynch did you see his post

what about that post pinged you?

If your case on performer is that weak

Why would we vote them over other people with stronger cases

what about that post pinged you?

Are you serious

what is your case on implosion lmfao

How is my case weak? just because it isn't 9000 words and I'm not Titus doesn't mean my case has no bearing

[Zachstralkita]

what is your case on implosion lmfao

This is literally what I was asking you guys all of day 1 . Don't start with that

Why are you acting like a fucking rock? Quit pissing around Day 1 has nothing to do with this

[Zachstralkita]

Why? Because town are going to tunnel town into the fucking ground

Who specifically are you afraid of this happening with? Titus I assume, or others as well?

The Wake and Titus bullshit.

what is your case on implosion lmfao

This is literally what I was asking you guys all of day 1 . Don't start with that

Why are you acting like a fucking rock? Quit pissing around Day 1 has nothing to do with this

BECAUSE HE HAD A BAD POST I VOTED HIM

That's my case

Okay WHAT ABOUT THAT POST IS BAD EXPLAIN IT LIKE I'M A HAMSTER



And you made a list of fucking Lapsa interactions just to shoot him?

[Zachstralkita]

Good waste of your shot btw

[Zachstralkita]

And Zach I will look at Performer again later (I agree with you completely about titus/wake) but I do have what I think is a pretty solid townread based on Performer's play in a vacuum; if you want to try to convince me I'm willing to listen.

Just cause it looks like he's playing town doesn't actually mean he is. His posts look posty but I don't think there's any substance and I don't think he has intent to scumhunt.

Vedith's lynch was lucky because that lynch would never have been achieved with Dunnstral/Titus dominating Day 1. Varsoon did right to fakeclaim.

Good waste of your shot btw

It wasn't a waste. I would have been pursuing lapsa/mirhawk connections today

He literally said he would disappear and only post again to say Titus is dumb

I peeped his meta on Day 1 apparently arrogant town is his thing

[Zachstralkita]

thats fucking awful Dunn YOU wanted to lynch Almost50 and YOUR vote was just as opportunistic

this is coming from the guy who wanted to lynch implosion but implosion < performer right now

probably

What if I told you all 6 people who fast wagonned vedith were town?

Get the fuck out of here oh my god


by the way Vedith was a prime example of the TrueGent factor. that's 2 for me!

[Zachstralkita]

Gonna need a real good reason to be voting performer

Over like, 5 other people who I could vote before him

go ahead push town

[Zachstralkita]

*Reveals

Annihilator Beam

*

[Zachstralkita]

Um, because he claimed IC to fuck with us like a scumbag. I don't know people's alignments so I have to factor in room for error. I'm pleased that my original decision was right though

[Zachstralkita]

Airick is town



guys

he's town

just like me

Fuck you my emotional trauma still hasn't subsided from last game

[Zachstralkita]

If you have a point in 2930, make it plain.

You said don't put words in his mouth but the quotes appear to indicate you are indeed assuming multiball

Zach, are you willing to lynch Dunnstral or Titus Day 2?

only if it's an ultimatum between you/Titus TBH

[Zachstralkita]

If you have a point in 2930, make it plain.

You said don't put words in his mouth but the quotes appear to indicate you are indeed assuming multiball

Zach, are you willing to lynch Dunnstral or Titus Day 2?

only if it's an ultimatum between you/Titus TBH

That was before there was only one kill, which was claimed by the supposed 1-Shot Vig.

SO... you refuse to be willing to lynch Dunnstral or Titus unless they're 1v1'ing me.

OK, let me make a note of that.

...

Alright, who ARE you willing to lynch?

FUCKIN performer (#1)

podo(?)

PeregrineV

Implosion(?)

Mirhawk


The question marks indicate uncertainty.

[Zachstralkita]

Ok scum probably targeted me LMFAO but I had someone looking out for me

Probably no kill from mafia because I got docced.

Anyone else want to claim NOT doctor??

Buddy, you're only reading it one-dimensional.

[Zachstralkita]

HES POSTING AS HE CATCHES UP???????????????????????? calm down

[Zachstralkita]

Why did you ask someone " What do you think of my claim " as if something they say will negate said claim

[Zachstralkita]

Except that's speculation and you vigged Lapsa lol

Why would you claim the kill instead of trying to draw tonight's NK? You already used your shot and you haven't really been game solving... just sheeping Titus

[Zachstralkita]

Except that's speculation and you vigged Lapsa lol

Why would you claim the kill instead of trying to draw tonight's NK? You already used your shot and you haven't really been game solving... just sheeping Titus

Where do you get this impression? I am finding Dunn to be difficult to work with myself.

Not sure he sheeped you quite a bit D1 (Sickofit?)






PSA everyone, stop fucking claiming without reason.

[Zachstralkita]

Lapsa claimed Macho he was an easy scum NK target anyway

holy shit lol

[Zachstralkita]

Not sure he sheeped you quite a bit D1 (Sickofit?)

Wtf you guys where trying to lynch me day 1.

I was defending your predecessor the whole way actually but you make it no easier for me with lack of content. Do you have any opinions you care to share?

[Zachstralkita]

Not sure he sheeped you quite a bit D1 (Sickofit?)

Wtf you guys where trying to lynch me day 1.

Look at sickofit's iso?

Nos was a lurker just like Sickofit but you never originally wanted him

THAT maybe true, but then who killed Lapsa then??

U wot m9

[Zachstralkita]

OK.. I'm totally lost, so you guys work it out.

1- I'm the Jailkeeper
2- Dunn didn't shoot Lapsa bc I Jailed HIM (Dunn).
3- I let him go with it to see if he was faking, and it looks to me that he totally believed his shit, so he may still be a vig and all, but he DID NOT SHOOT LAPSA! Period.

.......

God damn it.

All this means is SOMEONE ELSE targeted Lapsa as well, Dunn saw the death and because he targeted Lapsa he believes it was his doing.

I don't know if you are informed by moderator when roleblocked?



WHY DID YOU CLAIM THOUGH GOD DAMN IT

OK.. I'm totally lost, so you guys work it out.

1- I'm the Jailkeeper
2- Dunn didn't shoot Lapsa bc I Jailed HIM (Dunn).
3- I let him go with it to see if he was faking, and it looks to me that he totally believed his shit, so he may still be a vig and all, but he DID NOT SHOOT LAPSA! Period.

Pardon but what?

If Lapsa was actually jailed, then Lapsa wouldn't be dead.

Seems more likely that you were blocked if you're the jailkeeper.

He says he jailed Dunn

[Zachstralkita]

Is this game claim festival 2091 or something?

On this site, people are not informed of roleblocks.

Investigates get "no result" when blocked so they can suspect.

ok


And I've been saying before A50 was town and I have no reason to doubt his claim whatsoever.

It's a shame that he claimed this early though.

*Someone*

please protect him.

Does this mean Dunn still has a shot ??? LMFAO

PROBABLY NOT LOL IT WAS A WASTE OF THE SHOT IN EVERY ESSENCE OF THE WORD

[Zachstralkita]

Ok first of all:

1. Almost50 you're dumb for claiming
2. You're half-dumb for roleblocking me (you protected me too so)
3. It's probably multiball after all. One mafia faction targetted Lapsa to try to kill mafia, another targeted me to get rid of town.

it doesn't matter you wanted to lynch him

anyways almost50, wagon performer with me innit yeah safe bruv

I didn't want to claim either, because I figured it would be best play, but Dunn's misleading the town leading us in circles and it HAS TO STOP NOW!

I didn't want to claim either, because I figured it would be best play, but Dunn's misleading the town leading us in circles and it HAS TO STOP NOW!

I didn't want to claim either, because I figured it would be best play, but Dunn's misleading the town leading us in circles and it HAS TO STOP NOW!

I didn't want to claim either, because I figured it would be best play, but Dunn's misleading the town leading us in circles and it HAS TO STOP NOW!

Why does Dunn randomly claim the shot if NOT actually the one that shot Lapsa?

How would he know that? He targeted Lapsa just the same but had no way of knowing if he was roleblocked or not. Someone ELSE targeted Lapsa.

I think we got some info from this.

[Zachstralkita]

Titus can you answer what you think of my claim anyways?

I thought I said that it was anti-town to do so.

Why were you saying I was VT on day 1.

I don't feel like that's protown to answer.

Alright, let me put it this way. If it's multiball and there was more than 1 scum-sided kill, I think you're mafia.

If there was only one scum sided kill and it was on lapsa, you're probably town

If someone told me before this game started that two people would fakeclaim masons together then suspect each other Day 2 I would have called them a fucking lunatic..........

[Zachstralkita]

I didn't say I suspected Titus.

Well scum isn't going to come out and go " Yeah we... we didn't go for Lapsa must have been those other mafia assholes " so I'm not sure how you're going to determine that today

[Zachstralkita]

And you only serve to get in the way

Okay fuck off what are you gonna do? Wagon beeboy?

anyways almost50, wagon performer with me innit yeah safe bruv

i may end up sheeping you if I finally give up, but I want to be back on Peregrine. WHERE is he anyway? Is he VLA too? I mean, half the site is going VLA already, and my games are getting mixed up.

Also, could someone remind me why beeboy is town??

Since Day 1 I always felt Sickofit was an easy ML target and it was evidenced by people hopping on his wagon so easily

Also it's the 4th of July, I don't expect people to be sitting at home playing mafia. I just have no life and nursed a hangover for most of today

@A50 You're dead tonight from that claim, btw. Unless you role-block your killer or we have two protectives

He would have claimed when you got him to L-1 for no good reason lol

the trade-off was we know a minimum of two people targeted Lapsa including you

[Zachstralkita]

This is certainly a this. How about let's kill this.

VOTE: implosion

Transcelsius pls I know

Who would have killed Lapsa?
Aside from me of course, who on mafia?

Hmmm... There's only one way I know to test this theory I have.

I'll get back to you tomorrow If I'm alive.


Titus, you are dumb.

Dunnstral your list doesn't help. At least briefly say what the player did in each post.

Dude, I've been waiting so long for the Annihilator Beam.

[Zachstralkita]

That quote @Transcend I didn't finish, I know you obvtown read Performer but that may be a bad school of thought to maintain

[Zachstralkita]

YOu don't have anything on performer

I do, I told you to keep pushing town though I won't get in the way

[Zachstralkita]

It's still perfectly possible A50 is mafia but certainly less likely and certainly not today's lynch so.

I don't like this. Scum hate having people practically clear in the town's eyes.

[Zachstralkita]

It's still perfectly possible A50 is mafia but certainly less likely and certainly not today's lynch so.

I don't like this. Scum hate having people practically clear in the town's eyes.

1) Why do you think he should be practically clear?
2) If this is the case then why have I been pushing that so damn many people (lapsa, you, titus, dunnstral, maybe others that i can't name off the top of my head) should be practically clear in the town's eyes?

1) I believe if he was a scum RB it's too much of a risk to claim like that. And when he would not turn up as dead in the future it would arouse suspicion. The slot reads pretty Town to me.

2) I don't know? Have any of those pushes worked?

[Zachstralkita]

How was Lapsa "practically clear"?

I was referring to A50

[Zachstralkita]

How was Lapsa "practically clear"?

I was referring to A50

And I was talking to implosion...

I used the same verbage so I got confused

[Zachstralkita]

Can somebody tell me why performer

Fuck you mean can someone tell me Performer?

I'm the only one voting him, no one believes in me ;-;

But you'll see.

[Zachstralkita]

I already explained it in that one post I showed you when you asked the other 5 times you just don't think that warrants your vote. It's not my fault.

[Zachstralkita]

That was like two quotes

You're acting like you featured a case

That was all I had to say.

How is my case weak? just because it isn't 9000 words and I'm not Titus doesn't mean my case has no bearing

[Zachstralkita]

@Zach can I get you to explain why performer?

He's been a wallflower this entire game in terms of gamesolving, no solid stances because all of his stances are so flexible that they can switch at any time for any reason. He does not commit to anything that he can't weasel out of. If you don't believe me, read his ISO.

That is all.

VOTE: Performer

And he soft defended Vedith.

i dont like a50 lynch


scum are gonna coast through this game

How about that fabled implosion lynch did you see his post

what about that post pinged you?

Can you point out where Performer soft defended Vedith?

Vedith's posts are a lot worse than nosferatu's

Dunnstral is my hero
Vedith your posts stink

I'm not perfect, but I do have meta with Vedith 's towngame . He is generally smug and brief, as I've been seeing in this game. When I first played with him, I scumread him quickly but he turned out to be town, so I do see where you guys are coming from. #usemetaitisavitaltool

Vedith's posts are a lot worse than nosferatu's

Dunnstral is my hero
Vedith your posts stink

I'm not perfect, but I do have meta with Vedith 's towngame . He is generally smug and brief, as I've been seeing in this game. When I first played with him, I scumread him quickly but he turned out to be town, so I do see where you guys are coming from. #usemetaitisavitaltool

So you think we're headed in wrong direction with his lynch? What's the alternative?

My lynch pool:
any of the fake claimers
trans
a50
sickofit
possibly Mirhawk

I wanted to include Airick, but he has recently returned this week with some alright input.

I'd like a VC update from mod please.

Vedith was not in this lynch pool at that point in time. It's also laughable almost all of those names were townreads of mine save for Mirhawk alone.


He then acquiesces to a Vedith lynch after " looking through his ISO " nullifying the statement he made about meta.

[Zachstralkita]

So you're not townreading mirhawk?

Hey, guess what...

hey he's my option 2 I'm not ABANDONING my lynch like that so early

[Zachstralkita]

Airick I already explained that loll

[Zachstralkita]

Well it was a shitty soft claim. Are you implying he was my partner and I bussed him in the end? LMAO

[Zachstralkita]

Hey gang that was some spooky stuff

I'll just continue sheeping Dunnstral, I don't give a fuck.

VOTE: Mirhawk

Is Dunnstral your infallible townread and scumhunter?

[Zachstralkita]

To clarify - out of this group I suspect Performer and Zach mostly. I'm not completely gone away from AGar, but I did like his last posts towards the end of D1.

Yo am I gonna bus my OTHER partner then too? LMFAO

[Zachstralkita]

Your OTHER partner, huh?

Reading comprehension guy, I believe he implied I bussed Vedith earlier otherwise he wouldn't bother with that line of thought

It's not like you were gonna do anything about it anyway

[Zachstralkita]

Well it was a shitty soft claim. Are you implying he was my partner and I bussed him in the end? LMAO

Yes, I'm saying that's entirely possible. I'm looking at votes and what happened at night and asking questions. As I've said, I think it's plausible to believe someone who voted Vedith was scum. I tend to believe it was one of the early votes. It's also plausible someone who did not vote Vedith was scum. Out of the five people who voted Vedith before the blitz wagon, I find Performer and your actions the most suspicious.

You've got a better chance landing a fucking plane than landing a lynch on me, and I hope you're a pilot.

I'll also note that while you find mine and Performer's actions the most suspicious, you have cast a vote on no one.

Hey folks,

so I was doing a skim catchup before the servers crashed. Did a check of how d1 ended, I'm glad we got mafia scum. Not sure why there is Titus talking about reaction fishing while voting me - isn't the purpose of reaction fishing not supposed to be revealed that obviously?
Anyway , there have been irl commitments that are just getting in my way to properly continue contributing as a player in FM. I sincerely apologize but I'll have to replace out. I am town.

My honest apologies to the mod - I just don't believe I can stay invested as a player in FM games, the way my commitments are going on irl now. I have a number of wedding preparation events my friend has me helping out on, my career I'm doing overtime at, etc etc.

In my next post: what I like to call the " TrueGent " factor, maybe even the " shaddowez " factor

Hi

hey pal help me scumhunt this game?

[Zachstralkita]

Now, this isn't exactly to say Performer is scum based on a few simple images. No, it's more to implore you all to put your faith in my keen intuition, honed over the years until it became sharper than stalagmite.

Spoiler:

Exhibit A - Here we see Zachstralkita's prime scumhunting take place on the VERY FIRST(or second) page of the game, folks, during RVS no less. As usual we have Dunnstral making a cameo being a nuisance




Exhibit B - So it begins. Well another thing to note is the replacement had a fucking K in his ZAC as opposed to an H, so that's how you know he's a fucking mark. Not to detract from how I accurately pinned that slot as scum Day 1 like the fucking fortune teller in Animal Crossing on the Gamecube.






Exhibit C - An innocent question, almost as innocent as small children newly born.




It seems they're always trying to keep a playa down.




Exhibit D - ??? profit Nevermind that Dunnstral was trying to derail this lynch the whole game and he was town, let's not even get into that

[Zachstralkita]

I know you like to relive your life story and talk about how you got modkilled but that has nothing to do with this game so..........................

We also had that Vedith situation that happened this game. I know you hate being wrong.

[Zachstralkita]

Vedith would never have been lynched if I hadn't pushed Nos in the first place

[Zachstralkita]

[Zachstralkita]

It's like that awkward silence where the guy who realizes you have to look at past interactions Day 1 gets ignored even though he knows what he's doing.

WAIT NO WAIT. Don't look at early Nos-slot interactions. Might be dangerous!

Let's keep voting players NOT based on interactions with dead flipped Scum slot!

Nos didn't interact with much of anyone IIRC. I know scum interacting with their partners is tell-y but what indication do you have that the people Nos DID interact with WERE his partners? There are scum that completely ignore them.

[Zachstralkita]

It's like that awkward silence where the guy who realizes you have to look at past interactions Day 1 gets ignored even though he knows what he's doing.

WAIT NO WAIT. Don't look at early Nos-slot interactions. Might be dangerous!

Let's keep voting players NOT based on interactions with dead flipped Scum slot!

Nos didn't interact with much of anyone IIRC. I know scum interacting with their partners is tell-y but what indication do you have that the people Nos DID interact with WERE his partners? There are scum that completely ignore them.

I mean GOOD GRIEF why even look at players reactions REGARDING Nos Day 1?

I mean it makes NO SENSE.

It's too tough for our collective Town brains to, you know, work with the Scumflip...?

???? Why do I have to hold your hand?

[Zachstralkita]

It's like that awkward silence where the guy who realizes you have to look at past interactions Day 1 gets ignored even though he knows what he's doing.

WAIT NO WAIT. Don't look at early Nos-slot interactions. Might be dangerous!

Let's keep voting players NOT based on interactions with dead flipped Scum slot!

Nos didn't interact with much of anyone IIRC. I know scum interacting with their partners is tell-y but what indication do you have that the people Nos DID interact with WERE his partners? There are scum that completely ignore them.

I mean GOOD GRIEF why even look at players reactions REGARDING Nos Day 1?

I mean it makes NO SENSE.

It's too tough for our collective Town brains to, you know, work with the Scumflip...?

???? Why do I have to hold your hand?

HEY!

HEY.

Let's not talk about holding hands when you're not using Nos-flip and associatives, and you seem to be completely fine with the fake-Mafia claimed Vig who killed Town Lapsa.

Can you elaborate on that? Do you remember just a little bit ago when day started when all you were doing was settling for tunneling Titus -- and vice-versa?

So you're talking about Dunn? So you think both Titus and Dunn are mafia supposedly? And you're doing what?

[Zachstralkita]

Dunn thought Lapsa was scum -- you and I most likely thought that was bullshit but I can perfectly see why he thought that

The important thing is what both of the claims mean -- Dunn claimed Vig but was Jailkept and it means someone ELSE targeted Lapsa

Dunn no longer has a shot -- His pool of three included Lapsa, Mirhawk, and A50

Lapsa is dead and town, no surprise

A50 claimed JK and I believe it more than I believe any of the shit that's been going on this game because he's townier than most by a long shot

Mirhawk is the closest thing to a non-bullshit choice out of the three in that pool, you throw enough darts at the fucking board and you're going to hit something


I don't see A50 or Dunn's claims as scum motivated to be quite honest, maybe they could have been done more tactfully or not done at all, but they're done now.

But you do not need me to help you look into Nos-associatives. Why could you not have done your research and reported back? All that first post you made seemed to do was implicate Titus....

Can you elaborate on that? Do you remember just a little bit ago when day started when all you were doing was settling for tunneling Titus -- and vice-versa?

So you're talking about Dunn? So you think both Titus and Dunn are mafia supposedly? And you're doing what?

If you're Scum you need to be careful with your wording because the game is still young! You might make my gut pang differently.

Titus' posts Day 1 were heavily associated with Nos. I don't know you and you might be a bit sub-par as Town but you should be able to see that Titus was saying and doing things regarding Nos.

It's like you didn't read 2752.

I can't tell but at least one of you/Titus/Dunn has got to be Scum. I CAN'T TELL.

I don't give a fuck how your gut pangs dude, you're probably wrong on all three counts.

[Zachstralkita]

You trust your gut? You wanna see where it leads you? I triple fucking dog dare you. The problem with you guys is you all think you're fucking hotshots, and maybe I do too, but if we play chicken I'm not moving a fucking inch. So maybe get a different pool of three and start coloring names again lol, cause that one kinda sucks.

[Zachstralkita]

I'M WILLING TO MOVE

Nobody has a GOOD reason to get performer

It hasn't been 48 hours and your post doesn't say " prod dodge "


Seriously throw me a bone here I am trying to save your life

Zach wants to get performer because he's replacing out is basically the core part of his case

ya except i specifically said that WASN'T the case I just felt like doing something again

It's like you didn't read 2752.

I can't tell but at least one of you/Titus/Dunn has got to be Scum. I CAN'T TELL.

Yeah. I didn't read the post I quoted from about three times. Hold up. I'm finding this quote for you.

" Handwriting is NAI "

Yeah, no shit. Did you, Wake and Dunnstral study criminology together? LMFAOO

Man, if you were scumhunting when the Zodiac Killer was active we would have caught him in no time.

VOTE: Performer

So you did throw me a bone but you did it in the same breath where you shade me in some form as usual. Well, beggars can't be choosers.

[Zachstralkita]

I don't think that analyzing the Lapsa kill is likely to be useful, for multiple reasons (the main one simply being that he claimed macho and so could very easily have been targeted simply for that).

That's defeatist.Well there's plenty of people who weren't likely to be first picked as protective role target choices, if you catch my drift. Scum could have targeted any one of them. Unless, they happened to be one of them. You unfortunately fall into this category. Hey, if it makes you feel better, I'm probably in it as well. I'm sure some people want me dead a little bit. Not because I'm useful though, god no.

You trust your gut? You wanna see where it leads you? I triple fucking dog dare you. The problem with you guys is you all think you're fucking hotshots, and maybe I do too, but if we play chicken I'm not moving a fucking inch. So maybe get a different pool of three and start coloring names again lol, cause that one kinda sucks.

Unless you're an alt you really

don't

give the impression that you know what you're doing.

I find it really odd how Day 2 on you keep saying I'm Town yet you find every opportunity to not listen to me and fight against me when I'm trying to get you and everyone else to look at how players behaved early game when it came to Nosferatu. I don't understand why you're doing that. Either you're really, really obtuse, or you're Scum. I mean why else won't you listen? And it doesn't help that Titus and Dunn seem to want to ignore how players defended/pursued Nos early game, either. Look at who actively wanted to lynch him, and who pretty much took him off the table no ifs and or buts. But it's like you just ignore that. I don't know if you're Town and playing dumb, or what. Why won't you listen? Town's expected to be pliable, but you don't even want to work with me and see all the early behaviors

toward

,

about

, and

regarding

Nos/Ved slot.

Your main point out of that is that Titus and Dunn are scum.

I don't believe either one of those to be true. Because me believing that would mean both of them are scum to me, and I do not believe that is possible FMPOV.

And Town can be wrong, Town can be dead wrong. I don't have to listen to you if I think you're wrong.

[Zachstralkita]

Wake for a solid chunk of Day 1 you had a thing for Titus due to the mason claim shit and your gut. It just looks like you saw the scumflip, saw Nos' posts,

all 12 of them

, and then carried that thing on into Day 2. Do not talk to me about pliable.

[Zachstralkita]

sorry, I'm just in too many games.

replacing out

rip my replacement for having to read through all this.

pedit: or you guys could lynch me, that could happen too.

Is this an invitation? This doesn't sound towny.

that's a loaded question. If you guys were still looking for scum, ^^^^^.

Like, you could have inferred he was doing some super WIFOM shit here and Boem was his partner from this post. Which I'd believe over Titus/Dunn - it actually seems like it could be the truth

Wake, you're totally not working with me and

clearly

you're not seeing ALL the early behaviors

toward

,

about

, and

regarding

Nos/Ved slot.

[Zachstralkita]

sorry, I'm just in too many games.

replacing out

rip my replacement for having to read through all this.

pedit: or you guys could lynch me, that could happen too.

Is this an invitation? This doesn't sound towny.

that's a loaded question. If you guys were still looking for scum, ^^^^^.

Cool cool let me break this one down for you I may not have covered all the bases with that last post

the Nos/Ved slot

[X] Toward

[X] About

[X] Regarding



[X] Applesauce @Transcend

Unless you're an alt you really

don't

give the impression that you know what you're doing.

So if I were an alt I

would

give the impression that I know what I'm doing? You can say that without knowing who I would be an alt of? Who would I be an alt of?

"What other players were saying and doing"

OK but...

I hammered vedith in the end ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Be completely honest if our roles were reversed and I said this to you you would make about 8 posts on how that is not a valid reason

And I was trying to figure out Titus on my own and you were butting in the way

Nah you can't say this either, you went along with the mason shit, you assumed she was town or you're handing Wake a free lynch card and if you keep talking like that it just might slip into his hands

[Zachstralkita]

Dunn, scum can hammer fellow scum. That statement was obtuse as a fucking angle and I'm going to reiterate that

I know how you play but these other people don't scumread you out of thin air

[Zachstralkita]

Nah you can't say this either, you went along with the mason shit, you assumed she was town or you're handing Wake a free lynch card and if you keep talking like that it just might slip into his hands

I was talking about day 2.

Of course you were butting in with him so

If you claim masons with someone Day 1 you can do a lot of things but you do NOT try and figure out their alignment Day 2 because it shoulf have been quite obvious to you in the first place.

fos

Hey Transcend what color are your eyes

[Zachstralkita]

blue

Yeah I got my eye on you you shifty fuck I'll catch you slipping

[Zachstralkita]

Unless you're an alt you really

don't

give the impression that you know what you're doing.

You're worse

OK I have a theory and I'm pretty sure it's going to be shot down by a grown up but I want to try it out.

Titus is a bulletproof mafia traitor and Dunn is regular mafia.

How I arrived at this (and point out any flaws as you see them, there are heaps I'm sure).

1) Newbie games are 9:2 with a smattering of PRs, so I extrapolated from that to get 19:3 or 19:4 in this one
2) I speculated about what the roles would be, based on what's flipped and what has been claimed. I feel like I shouldn't go in to detail in case it's anti town but will if you want (I'm probably wrong anyway)
3) I think we are looking at a 'half mafia' player for balance, i.e. the traitor role
4) Titus claimed Masons with Dunn, with no way of knowing (if Titus is town) what Dunn's role is. I think this could actually be a way of Traitor Titus letting the main mafia faction know who she is. I think Titus might only know who one of the mafiosi is, not both of them, so she tried to save what she saw as the beginnings of a Dunn wagon using a strategy so implausible no one would believe it
5) This fits with Titus's claims that she can't tell us why Dunn is town without breaking the rules - what she's really saying is that she knows Dunn is scum but can't say why without revealing her role PM
6) Titus' early play, to me, fits the 'bad townie' role, and she has now toned it down I think after losing the other scum
7) I do think this could be, as Zach says in 872, the best scum gambit of 2016

Thoughts?

I'm not saying anything about this post but if they're both scum it's the slimiest victory ever and I'm going to have PTSD.

Well it was a shitty soft claim. Are you implying he was my partner and I bussed him in the end? LMAO

Yes, I'm saying that's entirely possible. I'm looking at votes and what happened at night and asking questions. As I've said, I think it's plausible to believe someone who voted Vedith was scum. I tend to believe it was one of the early votes. It's also plausible someone who did not vote Vedith was scum. Out of the five people who voted Vedith before the blitz wagon, I find Performer and your actions the most suspicious.

You've got a better chance landing a fucking plane than landing a lynch on me, and I hope you're a pilot.

I'll also note that while you find mine and Performer's actions the most suspicious, you have cast a vote on no one.

First of all, funny enough I do fly planes and have landed hundreds of times.

You're pretty defensive over some simple questions, that you...kind of...answered. Such as why you'd revote Vedith after you unvoted him due to his soft claim? You're saying it was just a shitty soft claim. Okay, I trust your actions more then I do your words. You're correct, I have not voted anyone yet. That's because I haven't narrowed down the top scum target on my list. I'm going through D1's vote totals and trying to find scum. Yes, I'm suspicious of you, but haven't voted you yet.

Damn it. What are the odds?

Okay I answered your questions and you still believe I even COULD BE scum. It is an exercise in futility. For you.

[Zachstralkita]

I'M WILLING TO MOVE

Nobody has a GOOD reason to get performer

Zach wants to get performer because he's replacing out is basically the core part of his case

VOTE: Performer

What even is this? Am I misunderstanding this, or is there some kind of joke in there, or is Dunnstral just an idiot?
"There's no real case on performer....... Vote: Performer"

Well, there were no complaints on my end as you can see.

@my dear mod, I will be sorta V/LA and posting at night time for like the next 2 weeks but I won't abandon you like I did my hopes and dreams. I am fleeing the country(going on vacation)

[Zachstralkita]

Then let me back out of the thread. Wake is going to do nothing but tunnel me drowning out everyone else, and I read others by iteracting with them and how they interact with others. I will also not be interrupting your Performer push. Wake has to prove himself town. You cannot. I have had some suspicion on Wake since before he entered and his checkbox post didn't help. Cherry picking is scummy. Wake has to do something townie for me to townread him. Which means getting out of the thread so your Performer push can happen and YOU can see you are wrong.

Hey Titus, what changed? Do you believe in miracles now?

[Zachstralkita]

I still want to get Performer. But what do you think of podoscum?

And what do you think of Airickscum?

[Zachstralkita]

Dunnstral only unvoted cause he got shook when dudes put him on the spot LMAO

[Zachstralkita]

If you're not going to revote on Performer I can do a podo wagon


But the rest of you fucks may just let scum kill us all

[Zachstralkita]

If you're not going to revote on Performer I can do a podo wagon

But the rest of you fucks may just let scum kill us all

?

I am of the belief that podo may be scum given that he's voting Titus for anti-town behavior, when nothing Performer ever did when he was active constituted pro-town

Podo himself stated Titus was town but still the prime lynch choice yesterday after his statements blatantly indicated he believed Titus was scum prior. Of course, no one gave a fuck about this when I pointed it out.

And by willing to lynch Titus when he admits Titus is town is an example of the very anti-town behavior he is voting Titus for. Probably scum.

As a matter of fact, what the fuck?

VOTE: podoboq

Zach, I am voting the largest wagon my townreads are pushing at the moment. Get more votes on Performer, I will go back.

Pls help with movement I am starting

Boem you picked Dunnstral to sheep, and Dunnstral is a really bad fucking shepherd. I just wanna say.

Pododboq if you're Town and you want to live, follow me. I need you to come in here and be more active—at least with me—and share more of your thoughts on this game.

I'll be waiting for you to post.

Bad Wake! Bad! *slaps with newspaper*

[Zachstralkita]

And before someone says " being contradictory isnt a scumtell WAAH! " it is in this case if you know how to process information.

If you're not going to revote on Performer I can do a podo wagon


But the rest of you fucks may just let scum kill us all

Zach do you think Titus calling Podo terribly anti-Town is justified considering she lied to us about being Town Masons?

The pot can call the kettle black, but the pot being black doesn't change anything if the kettle is as well.

Why are you threatening podog Wake? He's doing exactly what you are but less dramatically so.

VOTE: podog

Ok, but you are carrying the weight here. My cold is bad plus scum will paint this as evil omgus.

dont worry you/Dunnstral, Wake and Varsoon are lynches I won't let happen. Also beeboy


Yo Wake chill the fuck out real quick if you say " Podo if you're town come in here and help me" that obviously implies if podo doesn't come in here and interact and help you that he is scum in your eyes. That is how those statements work. That is kind of a threat.

[Zachstralkita]

Dude, are you high? My post on podo was in the works before you posted telling him to help you. I quoted your post so I didn't have to address it with another one. Now stop putting words into MY mouth. That is not why I'm voting podo.

[Zachstralkita]

Yo Wake chill the fuck out real quick if you say " Podo if you're town come in here and help me" that obviously implies if podo doesn't come in here and interact and help you that he is scum in your eyes. That is how those statements work. That is kind of a threat.

What planet are you living on?

Boem

,

Implosion

,

Mirhawk

,

Varsoon

,

shannon

, all of you I am asking to come in here and give your thoughts on.

Oh sorry those names must have been written in invisible ink because I didn't see them in the post WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.

Are you going into politics? You're super good at twisting shit around.

[Zachstralkita]

@Wake thanks for not addressing the posts where I pointed out specifically why scum is not trying to get podo lynched.

Did you see the posts where I asked Titus her thoughts on podoscum and she responded saying podo was a viable lynch? You know, before you even appeared to talk to podo? Hellen Keller called me. She said she saw those ones.

Airick if you're Town I need you in here to comment on these last two pages.

You and podo feel I'm Town you should join me in a Townbloc, because I do not like how these hidden forces are moving and manipulating us.

This goes for you too, Boem. If any of you three think I am Town, JOIN ME, and we will change this game.

I want to swallow a .357 round

[Zachstralkita]

Boem if you haven't ingested crack cocaine in your lifetime you need to see how dumb Wake is being and how he's acting like my posts aren't there

I appreciate it

[Zachstralkita]

Okay big man, we have you to thank when town gets fucked big time by ignoring me just like you are. I'll see myself out, you guys have a nice day

[Zachstralkita]

Podo himself stated Titus was town but still the prime lynch choice yesterday after his statements blatantly indicated he believed Titus was scum prior. Of course, no one gave a fuck about this when I pointed it out.

I said at one point yesterday, "Titus is probably town." That's a frustration thing, like "Knowing all the garbage that's happened this game, there's probably three scum teams, and I'm the only town left."

I go back and forth between thinking Titus has 40% of flipping scum and 90%. I don't have greater than 40% odds on anybody else in the thread, so even when I think Titus is more likely to flip town, it's still usually the lynch I'm happiest with.

you didnt need to rebuttal that no one is going to touch you

I also did explain my scumread on Performer but that doesn't matter..

[Zachstralkita]

@podo

I would but the reason it doesn't matter is because I could show you a fucking unicorn making rainbow trails around a pot of gold and that lynch wouldn't happen

Wake is clearly 120% correct and I clearly have a sign on my forehead that says " I'M A FUCKING IDIOT "

[Zachstralkita]

@podo

I would but the reason it doesn't matter is because I could show you a fucking unicorn making rainbow trails around a pot of gold and that lynch wouldn't happen

Just because the lynch seems unlike yo happen doesn't mean you should withhold your thoughts. I feel like I'm having a conversation with a child.

You might be. I have to work on my convincing people skills. I can't do that very well so I can try to use Wake as sort of a contrapositive argument and let him steer town into a volcano then maybe I'll get some support after that happens. That's why I'm leaving it alone right now.

And I'm really too faded to be upset at stuff so don't take it personal, friend.

[Zachstralkita]

However I'm still going to vote Performer.

He's been a wallflower this entire game in terms of gamesolving, no solid stances because all of his stances are so flexible that they can switch at any time for any reason. He does not commit to anything that he can't weasel out of. If you don't believe me, read his ISO.

That is all.

VOTE: Performer

Is this seriously it?

I was in the middle of replying then the internet fucked. I didn't have my " please Wake and podo " receptors on otherwise I would have done some heavy paragraphs and quotes. If town and you looked at Performer's behavior Day 1 and found no fault I cannot dissuade you. Believing you are scum I obviously could not do this anyway

Titus sorry in advance if your lynch happens. I've said multiple times on Day 1 why you and Dunnstral are both town relentlessly. The horsies have been led to water but I cannot make them drink.

[Zachstralkita]

Believing you are scum I obviously could not do this anyway

Wait, you actually think I'm scum? I thought you were just voting me for bullshit "why the hell not" reasons.

Yeah.

Oh, I'm not surprised at that.


Varsoon can you please tell me why originally Titus would claim masons with Dunn TO SAVE DUNN if only Titus was scum? Does that make sense from a scum perspective? You said Dunn was fine today.

And in the fucking parallel universe where Dunn IS scum, why would he claim vigilante when he could have just left it for the town to speculate about Lapsa's death? Is there something hard-coded into your DNA that says dumb gambits like the fake mason claim have to be scum?

And does Wake's town bloc bullshit not look like he's just trying to discredit myself, Dunn and Titus in every way possible, please tell me this.

Transcend, please hop in the front seat.

[Zachstralkita]

But I defend the VI and I'm town. I obviously get that it's good for scum to do but can some people not get that, you know mislynches are a BAD thing?

And please Dunnstral wasn't the VI. I was the closest thing to that. People were just voting Dunnstral because the way he plays indicates scum to a lot of people.

[Zachstralkita]

Titus said Dunn was stupid town but it's not because he's unintelligent. I think it's because with every game you play there's a set of new players and when you're scumhunting you need to look at the perspectives of those players first and foremost and get accustomed to the social interaction that you will have to break into as the game progresses. Dunn is not antisocial but Dunn likes to be Dunn and not give a fuck what anyone else says ( like I do ) and if someone is gut town to him it's pretty hard to convince him otherwise. Dunn is also very satirical like me but a lot of people think shit he says in jest is serious. These words probably dont make sense atm

[Zachstralkita]

Anyone who can't tell when Dunnstral obvtowns is full of shit. He shouldn't even be a topic


God damn it Transcend

[Zachstralkita]

OK I read the whole thing and wake needs to shut up

podoboq is a bad lynch though

Anyone else notice that Mirhawk came in and voted me? lol

You can scream all you want, but you don't control anyone here.

It's also ironic considering you've posted far more often than me.

If you're going to tell me to shut up I'll simply dismiss as a lowlife.

Who is screaming? Do you know what screaming is?

d o y o u n e e d m e t o s a y t h i n g s s l o w l i k e t h i s

There's been a marked change of tone for wake recently, by the way

I think the stupid votes on me riled him up.

ya that totally justifies wake reacting to 2 votes like they're 200 and ironically ignoring any information that does not fit his agenda

im waiting for these fucks to push and lynch town like they seem intent on doing ( dunnstrals good at this) maybe after they'll cease acting like this

[Zachstralkita]

We should lynch that hes just coasting

[Zachstralkita]

Oh ew podos voting that nvm

[Zachstralkita]

podo is town

you hard defended scum i was pushing on mafiauniverse because he was " town " you can obviously do it again

Great, *repeats day 1*

Almost any lynch you two agree on I am game for.

I am not agreeing on a lynch with him he can let his master scumhunting take the wheel

[Zachstralkita]

Unless I have to make an executive decision

This means you won't lynch whatever Titus and I agree on

Titus, Performer/Podo? If you're getting Mirhawk you and Dunn can do that by yourselves I'll go sit in a corner

[Zachstralkita]

And it won't be by yourselves, that's a main wagon

[Zachstralkita]

I don't wanna pick between my daddies.

Showed em how to hit them pints tote them pipes shoot them dice then one day he served a random trapper twice his name was Ike AND HIM AND IKE THEY START FINNESSING ON THE PLUG

[Zachstralkita]

Huh?

I wasn't actually sure myself.


A50 pls help

[Zachstralkita]

and GIMME that pagetop motherfucker

[Zachstralkita]

Nah Transcend get the fuck out of here run my fade you don't get to just candyland hot pocket bamboo chute wagon implosion like shit is sweet out here.

VOTE: Performer

[Zachstralkita]

And now, back to sleep.

[Zachstralkita]

VOTE: Zach

Feisty, I like that. rawr

[Zachstralkita]

Also, fucking bravo @AGar my hero

[Zachstralkita]

Dang. Was hoping to get a hilarious reaction off of Zach. That was about 3/10 in the funny factor.

I don't fos him guys. His reactions are just funny.

VOTE: implosion

aw mane im not on pc otherwise there would have been a GIF and all

[Zachstralkita]

Transcend why the fuck did you out the reaction testt

[Zachstralkita]

it wasn't a reaction test

it was just me wanting to get a reaction because you're funny

You deserve to go on Wake's colored checklist for that one

[Zachstralkita]

it wasn't a reaction test

it was just me wanting to get a reaction because you're funny

You deserve to go on Wake's colored checklist for that one

his what now?

Wake has proper scumhunting procedures down to a scoence

[Zachstralkita]

Hey Zach

Who else do you think is mafia, aside from performer? What do you think of the possibility of scum wake


Hey Mirhawk, what do you think of this performer wagon?

Wake is town but he's kooky

Podo mafia

[Zachstralkita]

Beeboy hammer him smite the scum

[Zachstralkita]

Why is the Performer slot being allowed to escape

Dunn come on you had no problem lynching the replacement in Peruvian Nightclub Mafia (both of them)

[Zachstralkita]

I will eat your pancreas if you make me read the entire thread only to lynch me before I get the chance to say anything ♡♡♡

You should stop now

It's not my fault the slot didn't get lynched before you replaced in, it's not like I have 8 votes


Boem if scum can bullshit halfway decent they can wiggle out of a lynch when they replace in

That's what's about to happen here

[Zachstralkita]

That's a loaded question. But I don't push mislynches. Dunnstral is over there.

[Zachstralkita]

I can almost feel Almost50's blood pressure rising with each passing moment caused by kraska not claiming.

Then my blood pressure must be NASA right now

U guys really let it go that easy? Okay


Performer did not play like a PR.

[Zachstralkita]

no
i wont claim before i get my word out
it will hurt town
enough of this crap

So this means if you claim AFTER you get your word out (gives reads) it somehow helps us and somehow doesn't hurt us in the way it would if you just claimed now?

Yeah. That makes sense......

[Zachstralkita]

Nah Wake is town

GG scum tho ez win

[Zachstralkita]

Watches

Is Wake town?

You asked TITUS if Wake is town if you followed beginning of Day 2 YOU WOULD KNOW she thinks Wake is scum


Maybe ask one of the people NOT tunneling Wake

[Zachstralkita]

convoluted and hyperbolic.... yea... descriptive words aren't exactly how you rebuttal an argument. you need to address it

also LOL @ the AGar scumread yea cause he would openly push a "ML"like that...


The majority of people who scumread AGar are people he has voted in the past.

or they're just stupid

[Zachstralkita]

So Wake and Titus are both on your scum list.....I'm going to omit the fact that the dead mafia was included on that list

Neither of them are scum they just death tunnel each other and Wake doesn't know when to quit

[Zachstralkita]

I'm 100% certain that don't lynch me until I read the game is not alignment indicative. Nor is refusing to claim for the same reason. For what reason would you attribute this behavior to town?

Refusing to claim is very town in my eyes.

I've seen scum not claim at L-1 twice

Of course in that game we lynched the town bp after he did not claim and selfvoted so....

[Zachstralkita]

I've seen scum not claim at L-1 twice

Of course in that game we lynched the town bp after he did not claim and selfvoted so....

Sure, but were they replacements at L1 or L2? I haven't seen that before.

No... but I fail to see how...:....

Nevermind you guys just carry on doing what you were doing I'll return to make fun of you if I'm proven right

[Zachstralkita]

You fail to see how scum replacing in at L1 or L2 wouldn't claim a town PR immediately? One scum is already off the board. The town didn't hammer Performer because they are awaiting this claim. You don't think scum would claim immediately to save their hide?

Well the fact that she still hasn't claimed and we still haven't hammered her leads me to believe it was never the general intention of most of you to hammer Performer. Look at all the shit that's happened and now that slot is going to dodge rope.

[Zachstralkita]

AGar is blatantly town. Any scumreads on that slot ping me. Of course Titus scumread AGar before but.... that's Titus



So let's say Performer/kraska is a mislynch.
Rather than AGar who is the main proponent of the lynch (along with ME!!!) I feel like a better place to look for scum would be.... hmm... I don't know... the people who voted that slot with little to no reasoning? But that's not what transpired.

We were able to speedlynch scum yesterday. I feel like if the slot were town the scum would have encouraged a faster lynch but now.... the wagon is just stopped

kraska's scumreads include:

Agar (haha)
Mirhawk( The wagon that's NOT you. Good detective work!)
Titus or Wake (.........)

[Zachstralkita]

i'll vote AGar or mirhawk today
i want to see what AGar and those sheeping him have to say about my post and implosion's defense of performer
noone's allowed to keep their vote on me before they state why they're keeping it
VOTE: mirhawk for now

Hahahaha scumfuck mcscumfuckerson thinks that she just gets to waltz in and tell us what to do.

Adorable.

You do realized I called shit on Performer in like my second post, right? His posting was absolutely not town motivated in any sense of the word. He clung to a fence for the most part, but when he did step off of it, it sure as hell wasn't on the pro-town side. You come in and your rebuttal to my case is "hyperbole and convoluted," and "someone else picked it apart, so I don't have to." Point me to the actual pro-town motivation you can find in Performer's ISO, and I'll wait while you can't.

Lynch the fuck out of this.

Also, cute trying to apply your meta to other people! That always works out just so swell!

---

@Airick

You do realize that refusing to claim, KNOWING that Varsoon had said "Don't lynch anyone without a claim because I can ~confirm~ people!" made that an implicitly pro-scum motive? No one was going to wildly hammer or speed up to a lynch with that, so by coming in and not claiming, she knew she stood to gain time to cop up a half-reasonable defense rather than claiming, Varsoon going "Lol nope." and her dying.

---

Transcend and Boem are also highly likely to be scum. Watching them ping-pong around to the popular opinion, while useful, has been so blatant it's not even remotely amusing anymore. And they're not doing it in the shannon "Fuck this, I have no clue what's going on," way - it's a "let me slide into these DMs while no one's looking real quick and pretend I give a shit about this game." Both immediately lost their will to vote when it suddenly looked like it just miiiight not go through to a lynch.

Lmfaoo +1

Well except for ya boy Transcend, he good

[Zachstralkita]

Damn it Wake, I guess this is what I get huh

[Zachstralkita]

kraska - "Please lynch anyone but me, PLEASE!"

I actually don't mind getting lynched if i get to drive you to a corner first so you down after me
Why are you not pushing boem?

Okay selfvote then.

I can derail an AGar lynch ez pz

[Zachstralkita]

I have a good feeling that tomorrow it'll be even PZer

[Zachstralkita]

Zach you are dumb
Zach you are dumb
Zach you are dumb
Zach you are dumb
Zach you are dumb
Zach you are dumb

I dunno what it is about you that Vedith couldn't seem to do, but it looks like it worked because there needs to be a few more people other than AGar and myself to get this lynch. And I don't think we're gonna get that support.

Zach what is your opinion of Boem?

Neutral because all he fucking does is sheep you

[Zachstralkita]

Since it's L-1 I have to remind everyone that you're all idiots for abandoning the kraska wagon and you will be made to know it. Congratulations, I made you guys a bunch of fucking medals made of chocolate. I'd be upset if it was a wagon that wasn't Mirhawk, though Mirhawk's posting has been better as of late.

@AGar if Transcend was scum, we'd most likely call him obvtown. I am calling him town based on that factor.

[Zachstralkita]

But hey, if you're scum and trying to pick me off, go ahead and do it - I'd rather the game lose me than lose a PR.

By the way, this is exactly how you narrow it down for scum to kill the actual PRs. Please stop this. A lot of people know you are transparent, so you don't have to prove anything to anyome.

:*

Yeah, this game does nothing but fill me with warmth! Yaaay!



Should the lynch go through and I happen to somehow magically end up deceased, *gasp*

Let's see...

- Lynch kraska lol
- Don't lynch AGar, Dunnstral, Wake, or Titus you simple simon motherfuckers.
- Don't give podoboq a free town pass to coast through the game and then act surprised when he ends up endgaming your fuck asses. Implosion should also be somewhat scrutinized, though podo moreso.

By the way....

Why can't I recall anyone defending Mirhawk? Isn't this a fucking red flag? Come on, guys.

[Zachstralkita]

@Zach, no one defended Vedith either but me.

Scum are defending by deflection, not frontal defenses.

The " deflection " in that case was basically your wagon.

But here we have implosion making a huge ass post as to why kraska is town, and several people just losing their sense apparently. So much that kraska doesn't even need to defend herself adequately to dodge rope.

[Zachstralkita]

^ performer softdefended that slot as well

[Zachstralkita]

Transcend I lack the energy to argue this right now you applesauce eating son of a bitch



90% of my Day 1 was spent trying to derail Titus/Dunn lynches and convincing people to lynch Nosferatu. I am 1 for 1 so far


I've obviously considered the possibility of kraska town but in that case if you haven't already noticed we already have a Dunn in this game so we don't need any more " scumhunting " of that caliber if we want to actually win this fucking game.

[Zachstralkita]

For what it matters, I also believe Boem has been an unrepentant asshole to people this game. There's a certain level at which it stops being sportsmanlike, and becomes just inappropriate, and several players have crossed that line this game.

It's made this game a real fun one to continue playing, and makes me excited to contribute my own thoughts and reads!

He's been pretty tactful in my eyes.




A little bit of go fuck yourselves shouldn't hurt anyone. If we're going to play the modkill game then Vedith should have been the prime contender....

[Zachstralkita]

Boem and Titus are still my heaviest scumreads.

please lord, this boy needs jesus heal this child help us destroy these demons

A little bit of go fuck yourselves shouldn't hurt anyone. If we're going to play the modkill game then Vedith should have been the prime contender....

I'm not saying we should be modkilling people for being unfairly dickish. I'm just saying that whenever Wake is transparent and open about his reads and opinions, people call him stupid and tell him to fuck off, even though his reads are justified and fair. It's either townies being unnecessarily cruel, or scum trying to make this game so unfun that players with good reads decide to leave.

I just do that to Wake brcause he's campaigning for the lynches of Titus and Dunnstral, which is unfortunate because those names are on my " DO NOT LYNCH AT ALL COSTS " list.

if i were mod this game i wouldn't have modkilled anywhere or even given a warning.

the game is supposed to be aggressive. heated conversation is to be expected.

[Zachstralkita]

#3905 is actually the realest post i've ever seen lmfao A1

Wake, I wouldn't be arguing against those lynches if I didn't wholeheartedly believe you were wrong more than you believe you're right

[Zachstralkita]

Okay guys, who wants me to LOLHAMMER?

[Zachstralkita]

Okay guys, who wants me to LOLHAMMER?

me even though i townread mirhawk. i just wanna see if i'm right or wrong about him. he's not in my first tier and i've fosed him before. so i can possibly be wrong here.

I'm thinking of a number between 25 and 60. Get it right and you win my no questions asked LOLHAMMER!!!

Only one guess.

[Zachstralkita]

Both incorrect.

[Zachstralkita]

Transcend if you had said applesauce initially I would have slammed that vote button so quick

tis a shame

[Zachstralkita]

well 4 non townreads and two women and dunnstral and the dude that was afk for all of d1 are voting this slot

i don't think this is a good lynch

LMFAO I just got Mortal Kombat fatality'd

[Zachstralkita]

well 4 non townreads and two women and dunnstral and the dude that was afk for all of d1 are voting this slot

i don't think this is a good lynch

LMFAO I just got Mortal Kombat fatality'd HAHAHAHAHA


HE TOOK IT BACK TO THE 1930s

[Zachstralkita]

If you havin' role problems, I feel bad for you son
He's got 99 posts but a claim ain't one

AND FOR THE LOVE OF FUCK WOULD PEOPLE STOP outing the fakehammers please

[Zachstralkita]

Okay... so that happened...

I don't know if I feel good about a Boem lynch. Since you FUCKS won't lynch kraska I'm willing to go podo or PeregrineV.

Transcend im going to kill you in your fucking sleep