Open 690: Kill All Townies - Game Over

[Sesq]

@Ali, what will you do if I flip green?

You're not a cop if you have to use the word IF here
-Ali

this is not legit reason

[CommKnight]

@Sesq, vote Siblings. They didn't retract their claim and continue to push their nonsense. Do you really believe Siblings would be Cop of everyone else in the game? There was no hesitation, Ali wanted to CC anything I claimed.

[Siblings Pet Doggo]

Comm.
I'm CCing you.
-Ali

But this is sesq.

-Ali

[CommKnight]

It's a FAKE counter claim. Like you outed yourself as scum because if you're doing this as town, it's against the rules to gamethrow soo blantantly.

[Siblings Pet Doggo]

@Sesq, vote Siblings. They didn't retract their claim and continue to push their nonsense. Do you really believe Siblings would be Cop of everyone else in the game? There was no hesitation, Ali wanted to CC anything I claimed.

You are going to need more then "Oh, I didn't retract."
Like attack my play?
I'm forcing a 1v1 with you.
-Ali

[Siblings Pet Doggo]

Like.
From your PoV I'm confirmed scum.
You should be hardpushing me and trying.
You should be aggressive like you said you would be.
But you aren' doing any of those things.
You act like it doesn't matter and you don't care.
You aren't even willing to put up a fight.

-Ali

[Sesq]

what night tho lmao

[CommKnight]

Let's see:

- You build a case on me from "Meta"
- Don't like my "reactions"
- Force me to L2/L1 intention to a full claim
- Immediately CC.

How convenient that you are "Cop" after all that and *I* claim it as well eh? That speaks for itself. I claimed first.

[Siblings Pet Doggo]

Let's see:

- You build a case on me from "Meta"
- Don't like my "reactions"
- Force me to L2/L1 intention to a full claim
- Immediately CC.

How convenient that you are "Cop" after all that and *I* claim it as well eh? That speaks for itself. I claimed first.

A. This is misrepresentation, because it's also mostly your play.
B. Yeah, you're passive when you go all out and aggressive. You're not doing that.
C. How is this scummy?
D. Yeah, because

that's my role

CommKnight is not a cop.
I am.
Now kill him.

-Ali

[podoboq]

Official Vote Count 1.15

Lynching

With 17 votes in play, it takes 9 to lynch.

CommKnight

(6): Siblings Pet Doggo, Balki B, EchoVision, MarioManiac4, GameNBurger, Flubbernugget

Kawso

(4): Gamma Emerald, Hawk, havingfitz, beeboy

Siblings Pet Doggo

(2): Almost50, CommKnight

Flubbernugget

(2): Sesq, Tenshii

Almost50

(1): Bellaphant

MarioManiac4

(1): DeltaW

Nobody

(1): Kawso

Deadline

: (expired on 2017-06-13 01:40:00)

[CommKnight]

Want me to be aggressive and say that your play right now just set in stone the deaths of your two hydra partners? You want me to tell you that your reads were shit? You want me to tell you that whether I live or die today, you die 100% by the end of D2 due to your not well thought out CC.

Like I'm gonna die tonight unless WW doctor protects me in hopes I find the mafia for them. Either way, this is a 1 for 1 trade. So yeah, I don't care a whole bunch, I planned to lay low and be scummy just enough to avoid being targeted at night. But nah, you gotta pull some shitty ass "meta" which you don't even understand yourself since you don't know me that well evidently. So no, I don't give a shit. You were tunneling so hard on a town PR and out them to both scum factions. And if you do somehow flip green, I'm immediately reporting you to the list-mod for what would be gamethrowing.

[Almost50]

OK, cool. We have TWO Cops. One is going to be NK'd for sure. We can leave them BOTH alive today and lynch the fake Cop tomorrow. Easy peasy.

[Almost50]

SHUT UP ALREADY!

Give Mafia the chance to decide between the two of you GDI. We had a 50-50 chance we get ONE Cop result!!

[CommKnight]

@A50, look at the people on my wagon, other than Ali, who else do you think is scum? There's at the very least 2 more in there.

[CommKnight]

Balki B, EchoVision, MarioManiac4, GameNBurger, Flubbernugget
^ Vig, if you can shoot in this pool that'd be awesome.

[Balki B]

Nah, CommKnight is scum.

[CommKnight]

Nah, CommKnight is scum.

^ I even suggest shooting Balki, that would probably be a scum flip from the 5.

[Siblings Pet Doggo]

Comm, why aren't you suggesting the vigi to shoot me?
From your PoV, I am confirmed scum.
Better for the vigi to shoot me rather then waste a lynch on me from your PoV, right?

And Almost, I refuse when I've caught scum already. :[
Sry.

[GameNBurger]

Well this interesting

We lose a cop in exchange for a free lynch yippee

So whats with all the delay, Lynch one and then lynch the other if wrong right?

I guess this does get more interesting now that its a choice between two And we all we have to do is pick the right one

Honestly from a numbers persepctive in a vacumn i dont see a reason for doggos to be pulling a CC since its multiball and both get kills

Okay I'm just gonna think aloud here and outline the situations:

CommKnight is Scum, Doggos town

Commknight decides declaring townie isnt gonna save him (which with the conviction some people have on his scumminess I'd agree) he claims cop to take a cop down with him. No real explanation needed, Its totally plausible.

Commknight is cop, Doggo is scum

CommKnight is really a cop and trying to atleast use the claim to get connections from his vote day 1, perhaps hoping both mobs decide not to shoot assuming eachother shoots? Not a necesary part, he could just be doing the good honest thing and claiming to try and move things along

Doggo, even though not immediately dead guilty decides to sacrifice themself down the road (if we buy into it) and take Comm down fast, so the mob doesnt have to kill the doctor at night and can get us to waste a lynch. We vote doctor, they get 2 kills, all for the tradeoff of one dead scum after day 2 is done very quickly.

I don't buy this side entirely. The tradeoff doesnt make sense and the gambit gives little to no payback for the scum, given that its multiball and the goal is to eleminate the other mob, and being down one is not gonna help.


As for the implications of us voting, I see either case as producing equivalent results. We're down a cop and a scum. Ill give in situation 1 does give us a small bit of hope, If neither mob can resolve the wonderful WIFOM as to who's shooting the cop

IDK i just dont buy circumstance 2 at all, just seems like a lot of circumstances would have to be forced for it to be true

Yeah lets lynch Comm

POST AUTHORSHIP: A50 is suggesting something interesting, as both factions would just shoot the opposing "Cop"

Too bad its stupid since mafia have doctors

[CommKnight]

Comm, why aren't you suggesting the vigi to shoot me?
From your PoV, I am confirmed scum.
Better for the vigi to shoot me rather then waste a lynch on me from your PoV, right?

And Almost, I refuse when I've caught scum already. :[
Sry.

OK, cool. We have TWO Cops. One is going to be NK'd for sure. We can leave them BOTH alive today and lynch the fake Cop tomorrow. Easy peasy.

Plus you're now outed to the OTHER scum faction, so they'll likely pick you off as well.

[Almost50]

{MarioManiac4, GameNBurger, EchoVision} Pick one.

Actually, I retract the TR on flubber too. Might as well switch him with Siblings. That's the last 4 votes on you, and flubber now the scummiest of them all.

VOTE: flubber

[GameNBurger]

Comm, why aren't you suggesting the vigi to shoot me?
From your PoV, I am confirmed scum.
Better for the vigi to shoot me rather then waste a lynch on me from your PoV, right?

And Almost, I refuse when I've caught scum already. :[
Sry.

OK, cool. We have TWO Cops. One is going to be NK'd for sure. We can leave them BOTH alive today and lynch the fake Cop tomorrow. Easy peasy.

Plus you're now outed to the OTHER scum faction, so they'll likely pick you off as well.

Why are you making a case as to why scumm doggo would never do this

[CommKnight]

Also consider this... if I were scum, why would Ali CC? The other scum team would have to SHOOT me with no CC's.

So there's no benefit for town!Ali to CC me as they just get themselves killed in a crossfire.

Just saying.

[Balki B]

Plus you're now outed to the OTHER scum faction, so they'll likely pick you off as well.

You are so scum. You did not think through this one before you posted it.

[CommKnight]

Comm, why aren't you suggesting the vigi to shoot me?
From your PoV, I am confirmed scum.
Better for the vigi to shoot me rather then waste a lynch on me from your PoV, right?

And Almost, I refuse when I've caught scum already. :[
Sry.

OK, cool. We have TWO Cops. One is going to be NK'd for sure. We can leave them BOTH alive today and lynch the fake Cop tomorrow. Easy peasy.

Plus you're now outed to the OTHER scum faction, so they'll likely pick you off as well.

Why are you making a case as to why scumm doggo would never do this

Because if I'm dying. I'm calling a spade a fucking spade. Yet we have people still blindly following her *Cough* Balki *Cough*