Then why don't you make those others who called me a 'he' before hold accountability too? I mean, if you are scolding people for calling someone by the wrong pronoun, then scold EVERYONE who did it. Cos right now it seems to me that I am the ONLY ONE WHO DID SOMETHING WRONG. Meanwhile, you seem to be dismissing the fact that I was wronged in the exact same way, as if you believe that those who did it to me had DONE NOTHING WRONG and I am just embellishing things. Newflash, it really happened. Want me to fetch those posts? Cos I can.In post 4129, Not_Mafia wrote:No one is doing that, you did something wrong, it was explained to you and took no accountability for it, if you don't understand why it was wrong, just move on because we'll be talking about this until endgame otherwise
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How I 'perceive' I am being treated? You think my grievance isn't real? That I would make it all up to gain sympathy?In post 4134, Pine wrote:No one here is mis-gendering you. You're trying to hold us responsible for others' bad behavior as an excuse for your own bad behavior. This is more bad behavior.
Stop.
Play Mafia, not this "I am being persecuted and shamed for wanting to treat others as badly as I perceive I am being treated" game.
Seriously. For the second time, please talk to me about your reads. Not a half-sentence statement of two people you scumread. Give me your reads on as many people as you can, in what detail you can.
That's it, I am finding the post where someone misgendered me and linking it here to prove to you it's freaking real. >.>- NicoRobin
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They haven\t misgendered me in THIS game, but they did in ANOTHER game. And if you think that me being misgendered is irrelevant because it didn't happen in this game, then go away.In post 4165, OnTheMark wrote:In post 4137, mastina wrote:
Can you blame me?In post 4088, MOMOMEN wrote:this one singular post was like a punch in the gut in terms of how I felt about this game
You have an elite scumgame; calling you scum here is a compliment, not an insult. Every player has at least some evidence suggesting they are town. I have three metrics by which to evaluate the evidence.
-Gamethread base evidence,
-Meta feeling evidence,
-And crowdsourcing evidence. (This being, trusting the read process of others, e.g. beeboy's Lovebird-is-town; Mathdino's RedFlavor is town. Among others.)
The reads I have are combining all of those. Some reasons for being town have grown from these, others are weakening, but they are in a state of constant flux. The current overall weakest reads are you and Mathdino, with LLD distantly as a third.
1) Please help me find where someone misgendered you in this game. I did a skim of your ISO and couldn’t find it. If I am wrong I apologize. This way if the person did not apologize then they should. Misgendering is bad no matter what as it can have devastating effects.In post 4135, NicoRobin wrote:
How I 'perceive' I am being treated? You think my grievance isn't real? That I would make it all up to gain sympathy?In post 4134, Pine wrote:No one here is mis-gendering you. You're trying to hold us responsible for others' bad behavior as an excuse for your own bad behavior. This is more bad behavior.
Stop.
Play Mafia, not this "I am being persecuted and shamed for wanting to treat others as badly as I perceive I am being treated" game.
Seriously. For the second time, please talk to me about your reads. Not a half-sentence statement of two people you scumread. Give me your reads on as many people as you can, in what detail you can.
That's it, I am finding the post where someone misgendered me and linking it here to prove to you it's freaking real. >.>
2) Misgendering me for example, even the unintentional ones causes me to get angry. It becomes very difficult for me to think rationally as I go into fight survival mode because of some things in my past. And in other extreme cases even worse. That is my unique experience however. Yours is/maybe probably different if/when misgendered.
3) I care more about people than I do a fucking game. If someone ever does to you and insists you are male when you say you are female I will defend you rather staunchly. However your use of ‘he’ in quotes implies you really don’t believe I am male. Along with the ‘mistreatment’ in quotes same thing.
4) Even if it is not as damaging to you it is/can be more damaging to someone else. Using yourself as a pain meter tbh should be a last resort always the other person. But I have a hypothetical for you (note I in no way condone child abuse)
Assume two muscled up people are having fun sparring in a gym. Each person knows the rules and knows how to not hurt each other. Then one of those muscled up people grabs a baby. “We can take punches so can this baby.” The other nods but a Good Samaritan or someone with common sense/is a decent human being stops them.
Babies can’t take punches. In this case I am a baby. I cannot take being misgendered intentionally. It is something I am working on but with some of the experiences I have had that is difficult for me.
This site is very trans friendly one of the reasons I do love it and the world is rapidly moving towards treating people as who they are. Please just apologize and move on. I am trying to work to get my scumreads lynched. If you really think it is me and Not Mafia work on Not Mafia with your partner- NicoRobin
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And you are blaming me for not knowing that he'd flip out, so shove it.In post 4171, Pine wrote:I'll gladiate you anyway. Fite me.
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No, there isn't. I had no way of knowing it would offend him so much, otherwise I would've stopped.In post 4173, Pine wrote:I'm blaming you for not stopping when he asked you to stop. There's a gigantic difference.- NicoRobin
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Ya think. That someone like her. Would give someone like me. A free pass.In post 4589, zMuffinMan wrote:ok
so cheeky wasn't scum with kokichi - that i'm pretty sure about. the posts i've read from mathdino haven't bothered me either. pretty sure he's town
pine is also town, unless you think he's suicidal (and he's pretty likely to be lynched today via not_mafia anyway). he's also town via kokichi
mastina is probably town and giving nico a free pass so i'm ignoring that
kokichi probably wasn't scum with wisdom, so i'm putting OTM aside (despite his reads being virtually the opposite of my own)
which leaves LLD, lovebird, nahdia, not_mafia
i'm willing to leave LLD alone for today because of whatever she's hinting at with her role, even though i think there's a decent chance she might actually be scum. i figure that can be dealt with tomorrow
nahdia and lovebird are not scum together (probably). lovebird and not_mafia are not scum together (probably). LLD and not_mafia are not scum together (probably)
this is basically where i'm at right now
and i'm starting to get cold feet about lynching not_mafia because the only really viable team i see is nahdia+not_mafia (unless i'm wrong about someone else) and i'm not sure this is all that likely atm
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lelIn post 4601, zMuffinMan wrote:yes, i do, if she thinks the enabler thing makes you town (which was what i've been thinking might be the case but seeing as it isn't all that likely that mastina is going to avoid being NKed before lylo, i don't care to delve into it atm)- NicoRobin
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And yet, that's exactly what happened. :/In post 4982, OnTheMark wrote:
I just had top surgery on my mind more than anything else.In post 4978, NicoRobin wrote:Well, maybe you should do gut in lylo sometimes.
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