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Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:17 pm
by zMuffinMan
because it was clearly a joke
one which didn't have any consideration for your alignment at all
but it doesn't matter to me whether or not i'm right about it because i was only mentioning that as a side point; it doesn't change how i feel about #393, whether or not what dunnstral said was or wasn't a joke
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:22 pm
by zMuffinMan
er, #363 rather...
also
In post 391, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I mean that scum is obviously not voting for genuine pro-town reasons. That is specifically what I meant by “opportunistic”.
this is not what opportunism means and it's part of why i hate the word
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:23 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 398, Brian Skies wrote: In post 394, zMuffinMan wrote:i don't particularly feel like breaking this down into very minor details and explaining specifically what i don't like, so i will just float this out there and you can say whether you see why i might think this:
i currently think the most likely scum team is nancy-kaede-ginngie
subject to change on a whim if i feel like it
I'm okay with these reads.
My lynchpool is currently <Dunn, Hebi, Kaede, Nancy> with Ginn as a 'meh' read. Hebi I still think is an easy target. I do think Ginn's reaction to Moment is a little overblown.
I don’t see how Kaede would have ever unvoted me if she were scum. Why wouldn’t she want to mislynch the lhf?
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:24 pm
by Brian Skies
In post 402, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I don’t see how Kaede would have ever unvoted me if she were scum. Why wouldn’t she want to mislynch the lhf?
Because it would make her look bad?
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:25 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 401, zMuffinMan wrote:er, #363 rather...
also
In post 391, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:I mean that scum is obviously not voting for genuine pro-town reasons. That is specifically what I meant by “opportunistic”.
this is not what opportunism means and it's part of why i hate the word
Of course it does. Everything scum is for opportunistic reasons. Lol.
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:26 pm
by zMuffinMan
@isaac,
nosferatu isn't anywhere near that high up for me
dunnstral still seems fine to me, would prob put him above wisdom
hebi above ginngie
rest seems about fine, but varying degrees of strength in ranks and my "meh" is more like "mehtown"
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:27 pm
by Brian Skies
Those reads aren't in order, but duly noted.
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:29 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
Because she doesn’t want to mislynch.
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:34 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
What evidence is there in her ISO that makes you think she even cares how she looks?
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:41 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 394, zMuffinMan wrote:i don't particularly feel like breaking this down into very minor details and explaining specifically what i don't like, so i will just float this out there and you can say whether you see why i might think this:
i currently think the most likely scum team is nancy-kaede-ginngie
subject to change on a whim if i feel like it
A) I am most certainly not scum.
B) Ginngie has not posted a lot of content (so not a lot to go on), however he doesn’t seem different than he was in Necro game.
C)I already explained Kaede.
I’m currently townleaning all 3 Necro players rn, two of which were town in that game.
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 4:43 pm
by zMuffinMan
can you give your current reads in one post? (with or without sprinkled reasoning, i don't care, i'm just unclear what your actual reads are)
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:07 pm
by Kokichi Oma
Why am I town Nancy?
Also, that was a weird wagon on Nancy and needs to be looked at later on in the game. As soon as I stated that if Nancy didn't obvtown, I was going to vote her a weird wagon of 6 or 7 formed. Her posts have been ok so far, so I don't see myself voting there right now. Nancy what is your Wisdom read?
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:12 pm
by Brian Skies
Okay, so like, this wasn't me saying Kaede was scum jumping off of you because she's scum trying to avoid your wagon. Possible, but not what I was saying.
It was me giving an example of why, if she were scum, and you were actually town here (which I don't know and isn't even my current stance on you, which should be evidenced by me still voting you), that scum Kaede
could
have unvoted there. If this is still unclear to you, then let me know, because there is a difference.
Secondly, why does it matter if there's evidence in Kaede's iso on how she cares she looks? Scum do care how they look, and many town also care about how they look, but who cares? Yes, scum do sometimes blatantly push bad wagons, but not always, and some are more strategic in how they do it.
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:24 pm
by Kaede Akamatsu
I think nancy is bleeding town and that muffin is being nitpicky.
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:31 pm
by Wisdom
^agreed
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:36 pm
by Human Sequencer
dunn might be scum
hmm
kochiki
why
please explain your history and thought process here in your own words
responding to
moment
on the topic of hebichan
In post 325, Moment wrote:I can understand you calling it "trash", then, but do you consider it scummy? That is, do you think that just because it offers wriggle room to a potential scum Hebichan, that it's more likely to come from a scum Hebichan? The way I've phrased it I feel like the instinctual answer is "of course", but it seems to me that just because there may potentially be scum utility in a certain method of posting, that doesn't necessarily imply that it comes from scum. Town is just as capable of phrasing things, explaining things or just making posts in general in such a method that would offer a lot of room as scum.
i mean yeah sure but this was like all we had from her at this point in the game
i can see a clear cut scum motivation behind what she said, making non-committal busywork. your read on nancy drew in the same post isn't much different.
reflecting on it some more i'm thinking the 'foolhardy town' archetype fits her better because of her tenuous grasp of what's actually happening in the game expressed more but i hadn't made that connection at the time
i dont think i could go for nancy today
i like
349 for the most part
359 is super wrong but i don't think its scum
Nancy Drew
, are you an alt?
gin could be scum
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:37 pm
by Human Sequencer
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:39 pm
by Wisdom
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:40 pm
by Human Sequencer
VOTE: kochiki
can swing kaede on a whim
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:40 pm
by Nosferatu
In post 382, zMuffinMan wrote: In post 374, Ginngie wrote:I wouldn't call it fence sitting because that is a pool of suspects that nancy is interested in.
it's not fence-sitting - fence-sitting would be someone who's unable to decide (e.g. someone weighing up the pros and cons of something but being unable to decide which is more likely)
what she did is just a lack of commitment
was gonna say the same thing but i kept reading and lo and behold
In post 398, Brian Skies wrote: In post 394, zMuffinMan wrote:i don't particularly feel like breaking this down into very minor details and explaining specifically what i don't like, so i will just float this out there and you can say whether you see why i might think this:
i currently think the most likely scum team is nancy-kaede-ginngie
subject to change on a whim if i feel like it
I'm okay with these reads.
My lynchpool is currently <Dunn, Hebi, Kaede, Nancy> with Ginn as a 'meh' read. Hebi I still think is an easy target. I do think Ginn's reaction to Moment is a little overblown.
I did not remember how big this game was
why am I so high? I've been really tuned out of this game, usually a scumtell for me.
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:42 pm
by Human Sequencer
tune in quickly please
otherwise i'm gonna have to scumread you
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:47 pm
by Dunnstral
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:49 pm
by Brian Skies
In post 419, Nosferatu wrote:why am I so high? I've been really tuned out of this game, usually a scumtell for me.
I liked your interactions with HS regarding your Kaede read. Particularly how you admitted to having history with Kaede and you would try to read her emotions, but that you wouldn't write a dissertation on it.
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:57 pm
by Nosferatu
Posted: Fri Jun 15, 2018 5:59 pm
by Andriod18
In post 280, Moment wrote:Foregoing quotes for the sake of convenience.
I'm both distrustful and confused at the Hebichan wagon. Seeing Kaede and Wisdom go from a seeming 1v1 to the death to voting together perplexes me, and I'm lightly townreading Hebichan myself.
Quoting this to start my catch up after work.