Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:47 am
@mod can we get a votecount
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Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:56 am
i am caught up
what a whole load of nothing
what a whole load of nothing
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:57 am
My first thought would be - if I were to argue that we shouldn't discuss this stuff - "no, we shouldn't talk about this because we could leak info to scum."In post 398, Toranaga wrote:see that's why I wanna talk about this. I think there's definitely benefits in claiming the powers, I'm just not yet sure the positives surpass the negatives
knowing who's in the hood isn't really anything special so I guess we're all claiming that already.
we shouldn't speculate if it's one in which or any other combinations and we should treat the neighborhoods as NAI, but knowing what powers is in each one makes it so that we have control over those powers as a collective, while we could have e.g. a certain power in hands of a 2/3 scum hood, they kill the towny in it and run the thing wild alongside their factional powers. this is just an example. we could ofc have a 3-town hood where claiming the powers wouldn't benefit us, but the safest route seems to be claiming everything from the get go.
that's just my 2c and I can be convinced otherwise ofc.
Then I realize that the 1 scum per 3 out of the 4 neighborhoods could be a thing and they're already informed about 3 out of the 4 factional powers.
So, that's kind of a moot point since the town's the one left as the uninformed at this point if scum are spread out amongst the neighborhoods. Plus, they have day chat, so it's more than likely they've already told one another who's inside each hood and what power each hood offers.
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:58 am
@popo - Who's in your lynch pool?
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 2:58 am
idk
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:00 am
@Popo - Any town reads?
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:01 am
your mumIn post 405, AnonymousGhost wrote:@Popo - Any town reads?
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:02 am
What do you think of any of the cases/wagons so far then?
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:03 am
If I've understood the setup correctly, we vote for factions secrelty.
Meaning townies only know 1 power. And are likely to vote for their own faction instead of voting for an unknown power.
So if there is a scum split among the neighborhoods, scum will coordinate and vote for the best power for them. While townies will likely end up with roughly even splits among the factions.
We probably should know all the powers before end of day so that we can make an informed vote.
Meaning townies only know 1 power. And are likely to vote for their own faction instead of voting for an unknown power.
So if there is a scum split among the neighborhoods, scum will coordinate and vote for the best power for them. While townies will likely end up with roughly even splits among the factions.
We probably should know all the powers before end of day so that we can make an informed vote.
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:04 am
In post 407, AnonymousGhost wrote:What do you think of any of the cases/wagons so far then?
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:05 am
vote:anonymousghost
this is a good lead
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:06 am
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:08 am
Think the winning world wins via majority or whomever has the most votes? There's an RNG mechanic the Mod will use if there's a tie, so I'm thinking whomever has the most votes.In post 408, BuJaber wrote:If I've understood the setup correctly, we vote for factions secrelty.
Meaning townies only know 1 power. And are likely to vote for their own faction instead of voting for an unknown power.
So if there is a scum split among the neighborhoods, scum will coordinate and vote for the best power for them. While townies will likely end up with roughly even splits among the factions.
We probably should know all the powers before end of day so that we can make an informed vote.
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:08 am
i have to admit im new to this 'useful town power roles claiming for no reason in day 1' meta
but i believe the shinori claim
but i believe the shinori claim
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:10 am
Providing that comment about what happened overnight so hard, wasn't so hard, was it? 
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:15 am
:^S
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:17 am
>X3
Bright side, we didn't call each other names!
Bright side, we didn't call each other names!
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:27 am
yes, that's the main reason why town should know the powers. the number of of scum infiltrated in any given hood is elevated enough on average (4 hoods with 3 people in each and there are 3 scum, so on average scum will know about at least 2 hoods unless they're all gathered in the same hood, and very often 3 hoods) that we're literally just levelling the field by having everyone know hood powers.In post 402, AnonymousGhost wrote:My first thought would be - if I were to argue that we shouldn't discuss this stuff - "no, we shouldn't talk about this because we could leak info to scum."In post 398, Toranaga wrote:see that's why I wanna talk about this. I think there's definitely benefits in claiming the powers, I'm just not yet sure the positives surpass the negatives
knowing who's in the hood isn't really anything special so I guess we're all claiming that already.
we shouldn't speculate if it's one in which or any other combinations and we should treat the neighborhoods as NAI, but knowing what powers is in each one makes it so that we have control over those powers as a collective, while we could have e.g. a certain power in hands of a 2/3 scum hood, they kill the towny in it and run the thing wild alongside their factional powers. this is just an example. we could ofc have a 3-town hood where claiming the powers wouldn't benefit us, but the safest route seems to be claiming everything from the get go.
that's just my 2c and I can be convinced otherwise ofc.
Then I realize that the 1 scum per 3 out of the 4 neighborhoods could be a thing and they're already informed about 3 out of the 4 factional powers.
So, that's kind of a moot point since the town's the one left as the uninformed at this point if scum are spread out amongst the neighborhoods. Plus, they have day chat, so it's more than likely they've already told one another who's inside each hood and what power each hood offers.
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:42 am
I can be convinced otherwise as I said. for instance, there's a chance one or more hood powers are only really useful in hands of town if scum doesn't know about them. on the other hand, one of the hoods might have a night kill, and that's really better off if we know about it now because of some circumstances where that kill ends up being 100% controlled by scum, either by killing the town players in that hood before that power is outed in thread, or by working ways to have it concealed through pocketing the town in the hood into thinking it's best to decide those kills at night within hood members etc.
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:45 am
yeah the powers should be outed so we can vote them ITT, there's no arguing against it. I was under the false impression we'd be able to use those powers every night, but we definitely need 100% control over the votes because scum can coordinate between them to have preferable powers being used at night when they're not all packed in the same hood.
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:47 am
if everyone votes their own worlds but scum is divided into 3 hoods, they'll just vote pack onto whichever of those 3 powers is preferable for them and work out their factional abilities around it
it's pointless not to out the abilities so that we'll do informed votes on which power we want used every night.
ok that's out of the way already.
it's pointless not to out the abilities so that we'll do informed votes on which power we want used every night.
ok that's out of the way already.
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:50 am
I couldn't finish catching up with the thread and I won't for a while now
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:56 am
Thanks for explaining my point better than I did.
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 3:59 am
Can you give me an example? I have a vague idea of what you're talking about.In post 418, Toranaga wrote:for instance, there's a chance one or more hood powers are only really useful in hands of town if scum doesn't know about them.
Pedit: @Tora - We have no confirmation just yet that scum are evenly, or is perfectly since 3 isn't an even number?, amongst the hoods.
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2018 4:00 am
For a moment, I thought that we should keep the identities of the hood mates a secret, but then I remembered if the scum are spread across 3 of the 4 hoods, they already know who's in what based on PoE.