Overkill 1: Serenity/Firefly (GAME OVER)

[Toranaga]

although I thought toogeloo was joking

[CheekyTeeky]

Tor what do you think the chances of NSG/RC/you/me are all town?

I think you're all town

Top 3 scumreads?

I don't have a single scumread right now.

What would you think if I said I townread >6 people and didn't have a single scumread?

[CheekyTeeky]

i wanted to vote chicka but i feel like 10 is town spewy

Why? What makes you think only town don't know wwho they are?

thats not it, i dont think scum would post anything role pm indicative before the sample pm was posted

that's so smart

Yeah actually that is.

[Toranaga]

I'd think you're scum but you're a different animal

[Toranaga]

I had several scumreads in moments of this game and I pushed them, and they revealed to be towny enough for me to back off

[CheekyTeeky]

What do you think about TW and Mala?

[Toranaga]

I'm reading mala's ISO now and my thoughts about it remain the same as whatever I thought in real time. I don't like his start. I dislike #33 tonally but I have no patience to explain in any way why, it's just one of those things where the phrasing pings my radar. #89 felt to me like he was just copy/pasting stuff people said and making a scummy montage with it. and then I liked this:

It's an over dramatic serious response to a post that shouldn't even be taken super serious considering it's RC. I love RC, but he's a guy that plays off other people's reactions. Unless he's changed his playstyle in 2 years+.

Again, I don't see where someone who's been playing for over a year would blindly believe RC and think it's a real mason claim like off the bat. Then attack people for voting RC in a RVS stage.

I can't tell if you, Tora, are defending Elsa because you think elsa is a newbie that can't defend himself or it's motivated some other way.

the fact you say he's someone who didn't play with people who opened with fake claims. I wouldn't know how the site played back in 2017. I was on a leave during that time.

@elsa have you played with RC before?

cause I liked his thoughts about me here. it's a minor thing, he can be scum saying it for sure, but I backed off after this post.

I had the strong impression when people were pushing elsa, that scum had to be pushing elsa too cause he was so towny it made no sense that so many people were piling on him.

[Toranaga]

TW is not someone I'm gonna parse out right now. he hasn't been transparently towny like I expect, but I'm also probably overrating his ability to project town when the game recently started. I townread his tone, I don't like some of his content, it needs time for my read to become anything solid.

[CheekyTeeky]

I had the strong impression when people were pushing elsa, that scum had to be pushing elsa too cause he was so towny it made no sense that so many people were piling on him.

That boggles my mind. It was the scummiest thing I saw, but in the same token why would scum stick out their necks so far in RVS.

I don't know if I'm tunneling you because I'm scared you'll fool me again or if there's genuine reason underlying my bad feeling with you this game.

Time wil tell.

UNVOTE: will reread the game later. Sorry everyone for overposting.

[RadiantCowbells]

i'm gonna not have scumreads and instead just poe 9 town on d1.

i have 4 so far, maybe 5.

[Toranaga]

elsa's starting posts were bad thoughts but I don't associate bad with scummy necessarily and I believed he believed what he was saying, not only in those posts but through and through. feeling genuine matters to me a whole lot more than being reasonable. scum is often reasonable, town is very very often unreasonable... it's player dependant. sounding genuine all the time is a town tell.

[RadiantCowbells]

were you aware that elsa has an 100% scum winrate thus far and has been called genuine as scum in all of them?

[Toranaga]

I don't know the player

if he is always super genuine sounding, I can't read him. I'm not gonna find out because I'm not gonna metadive anybody.

[BuJaber]

I don't know how I feel about agreeing with sky

am i that bad of a player? ):

Nope it's just I don't trust you yet.

[BuJaber]

I don't know how to react to this calm and friendly RC

I don't know about Elsa being so clearly town like you seem to believe .. posts are mainly NAI to me.

[RadiantCowbells]

i'm being nice because i'm scum clearly

[CheekyTeeky]

There has definitely been scum-motivated thread inflation going on throughout the game anyway. That part is obvious.

Why is it obviously scum-motivated?

[RadiantCowbells]

I think this might be what Bujaber scum looks like c:

[the worst]

toog PM spew thing felt fairly intuitive for me, idk I liked it for town!geloo

Disagree. NAI at best.

Feels like a weird move for scum to make, but it really doesn't feel natural at all. At best it was a town move to just see how people felt about them saying those things.

So yeah. Definitely contrived, motivation unknown.

-Cerb

ok and I feel bad for modspeccing but the sudden appearance of the sample pm.....?

[the worst]

And sure TW. I'll agree to whatever you like if you sheep me on the read displayed by the person who you said "vibes so towny" who has made true statements about another slot and the play we should expect from them, statements you should know to be fair expectations based on HW.

-Cerb

deal~ <3
VOTE: Toranaga

[the worst]

VOTE: the worst

obvscum

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AND WE STILL HAVE TO PRESSURE TORA?! OKAY CERB

[the worst]

Tor what do you think the chances of NSG/RC/you/me are all town?

I think you're all town

Top 3 scumreads?

I don't have a single scumread right now.

What would you think if I said I townread >6 people and didn't have a single scumread?

I feel this :[

[CheekyTeeky]

NSG is my Scum buddy

Fixed that for you.

Now 2 people have decided to vote a Mason claim.

I appear to have been put into a ship of crazy people.

Must Update my Captain's log.

This doesn't make sense to me at all. How can you joke about his claim and then berate others for not taking it seriously?

I literally had no reason to disbelieve your claim, RC. Just thought you were getting any protective roles on either you or North real quick in a Multiball game.

I don't buy this.

Calling it scummy is just weird as heck though.

Weird? Why not sort the reactions to your behaviour?

VOTE: NSG

Finally, a united front.

This is literally the only mention of NSG. In total Elsa has voted 2 people, mala/NSG and then unvoted both. Their whole ISO is fluff/defending themself/two random votes. Zero stances on anyone. How Tor finds them townie is beyond me.

[the worst]

it's very refreshing that Jay sounds exactly the same as I remember him sounding

[the worst]

he's funny and entertaining and I want to lynch him but I can't explain why, and I also don't want to lynch him and can't explain why. such fun.