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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:54 pm
by northsidegal
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[4] Suka
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Nero Cain , OkaPoka , YyottaCat , BrightEyedFish
[3] DrDolittle
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Leodanny , rb , Varsoon
[1] BrightEyedFish
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Suka
[1] YyottaCat
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Kmd4390
[1] Nero Cain
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DrDolittle
[1] rb
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Creature
[1] Nero Cain
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mbaki

[1] Not Voting
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Vorkuta

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch


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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:04 pm
by rb
In post 342, BrightEyedFish wrote:anyone want to help me get caught up? Is YyottaCat still the best lynch?
wow i had high hopes for you imo

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:08 pm
by Suka
"Justification" is scummy. And Nero should know better than to suspect me for voting without it.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:16 pm
by rb
In post 402, Suka wrote:"Justification" is scummy.
wow..

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:19 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 383, mbaki wrote:
In post 354, Nero Cain wrote:I rather lynch Suka or Mbaki
u wanna talk about this supposed scum read on me?
Sure, man.

lets start with your read and changes on me.
In post 227, mbaki wrote:Nero on the town side
In post 339, mbaki wrote:Very slight toward scum I guess. No strong opinion to give.
In post 357, mbaki wrote:
In post 354, Nero Cain wrote:I rather lynch Suka or Mbaki. I'd compromise on DDL though.
VOTE: Nero Cain

No.
talk more about how you go from town reading me to me being your #1 scum read and you want me lynched. If your sole justification for scumreading me is that I'm not meta reading a string of posts then I think that's pretty weak. Sans meta, why is Creature town and why am I more likely to be scum pushing Creature than town misreading him?


In post 124, mbaki wrote:I agree with 123.
In post 186, mbaki wrote:Oka and Vork kinda kinda feel like partners trying to force interactions.
In post 226, mbaki wrote:
In post 221, Leodanny wrote:So which one(s) do you think are scum and which aren’t?
Neither, particularly. It was a throwaway comment for now. If there are more between those slots in the future or if one ends up flipping scum, that is when it becomes relevant.
In post 227, mbaki wrote:
In post 222, Nero Cain wrote:
@mbaki
-how do you read suka and DDL?
I have no strong feelings.

My reads right now are RB, Creature, Nero on the town side, possibly Varsoon as well, and YYotta on the scum side slightly. Nobody else is worth mentioning.
In post 247, mbaki wrote:
In post 233, Varsoon wrote:Woah, woah, woah.
Slow down.
A player of my caliber?
What informs this?

Also, I don't see how you get off playing the 'Varsoon is experienced' card while also casting my postulation that 'Nero sorts himself out' as pocketing rather than me just sharing meta experience.

As for my YYotta vote, that was never a serious vote and was only meant to highlight Oka talking out of their ass.
That's fine. I'm not interested in lynching you as of now. Just pointing out you're not a town read like I recalled.
In post 339, mbaki wrote:
In post 332, Suka wrote:mbaki, what's your current read on Nero?
Very slight toward scum I guess. No strong opinion to give.
In post 381, mbaki wrote:I could lynch every one of the posters from the last two pages, this is going to be a long game.
Your scum hunting seems very weak and fence sitty. You're just blowing in the breeze and leaving your options open and I think thats pretty likely scum play. Your sole hard scum read, YyottaCat, whom you aren't even voting for anymore, you never even tried to convince anyone to vote there.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:27 pm
by Nero Cain
In post 402, Suka wrote:"Justification" is scummy. And Nero should know better than to suspect me for voting without it.
I ain't never played with you b4. If you are town you should absolutely be giving justifications for the actions you do and the ppl that you vote otherwise how would you ever convince anyone?

Though metaing you now, that micro you played in you just did a series of votes but it's possible that you are just going for a NM type meta and without a scumgame to compare it to I can't really say this is or isn't a town game.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:52 pm
by Suka
Persuading isn't helpful. Besides the obvious problem of confirmation bias, it gives the scum cover to sheep.

I've made my top suspect clear. If someone needs explanation to see that my perspective comes from town, I'm happy to oblige. But don't expect unsolicited explanations. And regardless, I'll never "justify."

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 1:56 pm
by Nero Cain
but on the flip side there's plenty of potential scum motivation in not giving reasons for your votes.

Can you tell me why you were scum reading me pre-114?

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:04 pm
by Suka
In post 407, Nero Cain wrote:Can you tell me why you were scum reading me pre-114?
You were less town than others.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:10 pm
by mbaki
In post 391, Suka wrote:mbaki, why don't you townread me despite having the same reaction to Nero's posting?
A good question indeed.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:12 pm
by mbaki
In post 404, Nero Cain wrote:Your sole hard scum read, YyottaCat
I have never called YYotta a scumread.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:13 pm
by mbaki
In post 404, Nero Cain wrote:Sans meta
Unfortunately, sans meta is not how we are playing mafia. If you prefer to play in meta-less games Town of Salem might be more your speed.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 2:15 pm
by mbaki
In post 404, Nero Cain wrote:talk more about how you go from town reading me to
me being your #1 scum read
and you want me lynched
Talk more about how the first 20 pages of a game are not allowed to have read changes. I town read you for weak reasons, now I scum read you for weak reasons. Welcome to day 1 of a mafia game. And stop with the underlined, you are adding things in that were never said
constantly
, and it is more argumentative than debate-y.

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 4:15 pm
by BrightEyedFish
In post 412, mbaki wrote:
In post 404, Nero Cain wrote:talk more about how you go from town reading me to
me being your #1 scum read
and you want me lynched
Talk more about how the first 20 pages of a game are not allowed to have read changes. I town read you for weak reasons, now I scum read you for weak reasons. Welcome to day 1 of a mafia game. And stop with the underlined, you are adding things in that were never said
constantly
, and it is more argumentative than debate-y.
Nero does make a point. Of course you can have read changes but are your read changes based on evidence or just on gut reads?

I too, am getting a weird vibe from your posts

Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2018 8:17 pm
by mbaki
Don't you have to read the game to get a vibe?

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:24 am
by BrightEyedFish
In post 414, mbaki wrote:Don't you have to read the game to get a vibe?
I asked you a question first.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:35 am
by rb
i'd lynch like 5 other people before mbaki at this point, even though i think Nero is right his play isn't great i don't think the bar is very high right now

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:42 am
by rb
In post 391, Suka wrote:mbaki, why don't you townread me despite having the same reaction to Nero's posting?
zzzzzzz

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 2:44 am
by rb
btw nero is my top townread

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:41 am
by Leodanny
Wat what is your top scumread?

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 7:46 am
by Leodanny
*Wait

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:16 am
by mbaki
In post 415, BrightEyedFish wrote:
In post 414, mbaki wrote:Don't you have to read the game to get a vibe?
I asked you a question first.
Not a question that has any value.

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:21 am
by Varsoon
In post 416, rb wrote:i'd lynch like 5 other people before mbaki at this point, even though i think Nero is right his play isn't great i don't think the bar is very high right now
Who are these 5 mystery scummers?

Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:23 am
by northsidegal
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Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2018 10:23 am
by northsidegal
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