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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:38 am
by northsidegal
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Votecount 2.1
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Aubrey (2):
Slaxx , Shoshin

Not voting (6):
Gamma Emerald, OkaPoka, Aubrey, brassherald, no lunch, u r a person 2

With 8 alive, it’s 5 to lynch. The Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2019-01-22 04:09:59).

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:47 pm
by OkaPoka
I could continue opposing this townbloc because I don't like it when so much power in basically unchecked.

Or.

I could be lazy and sheep some people because apparently I don't know how to play this game.

VOTE: aubrey

whee

see you guys when aubrey flips

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 5:08 pm
by Aubrey
I’ll deal with reads tomorrow,

But this wagon is lackluster.

I’m basically being voted for agreeing with someone’s own logic.

Unknown from Shoshin, though how hard is it to guess I’m being voted for because I haven’t done a reads list and been a thorn in her side for the first part of the game.

And a sheep.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:55 pm
by no lunch
VOTE: Aubrey
L-1

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:56 pm
by no lunch
Is this wagon still lacklustre?

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:12 pm
by Aubrey
Yes.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:12 pm
by Slaxx
UNVOTE:

Oh my god lol no

Maybe but don’t put him at L-1 before he can at least expand on reads

Let’s not squander a D1 scum lynch with some lolwagons

Not everyone has checked in yet I think?

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 7:17 pm
by Slaxx
Gamma hasn’t and Brass has made some NAI post. Bad practice to steamroll like that

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:21 pm
by u r a person 2
In post 399, u r a person 2 wrote:@NL Why null town?
hey, NL, i think you probably overlooked this. about slaxx

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:13 am
by no lunch
In post 406, Slaxx wrote:lolwagons
Nice.
I was excited for the pressure of him being at L-1. :(

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:19 am
by no lunch
In post 408, u r a person 2 wrote:
In post 399, u r a person 2 wrote:@NL Why null town?
hey, NL, i think you probably overlooked this. about slaxx
It's hard to explain exactly. I believe I was half expecting a townie replace-in, and what I did see was....faintly town indicative. Just faintly..

I'm not going to clear him for the Maestro push, but I did enjoy his fervour around it and commentary with respect to Maestro's fearmongering obvious town being scum indicative.

It's very likely we have an instance of the "flag gambit" where another of the scum (probably the flag bearer) has bussed on day one to achieve some measure of town credit. I am not convinced that someone experienced enters a gamestate where one of his scumbuddies is going down, and randomly busses them in an attempt to gain town credit (a well-known, yet dangerous, play in flag games).

Not clearing by any measure. Just not someone I want to be pushing right now with OkaPoka, and Aubrey being in the game.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:19 am
by no lunch
I just used an Oxford comma in a list of two names. I am officially dead inside.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:46 am
by brassherald
Yeah weekends are bad for me. Please don't lynch right now while I am doing things like making sure my car's brakes don't give out.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:10 pm
by Aubrey
Slaxx backing off my lynch at L1 didn't make much sense to me from a scum perspective. He's the only one voting me with halfway decent reasoning, so my flip wouldn't incriminate him as much as the later voters. I've ruled Slax and NL out due to CT's rage quit. if one flips scum, the other instantly should be confirmed town.

that being said I dislike Maestro's defending you and joining the Shoshin wagon when the both of you were at L2

Scum lean

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Oka's blind sheep doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
I have liked that fact that he seems to have been playing against the grain of the game. typically I find scum trying to flow with the town vs. going against that grain.

town-lean

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Shoshin and I seem to have different views when it comes to gameplay, so I'm wondering if my dislike of the slot stemed more from play-style differences. That being said, if her main issue with me is having hesitance with her, then I find it funny seeing as her top TR holds the same opinion I had. That being said, Maestro put her at L1 yesterday. That doesn't make sense from a scum perspective.

Town.

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Gamma, null. The previous slot didn't do anything worthwhile, and Gamma has yet to do anything worthwhile either. I think it best to give the slot a bit more time and see progression before we start voting it up. Otherwise we're potentially giving scum an easy wagon to vote up.

Null

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My biggest complaint with NL is his main votes have been on slots that don't I consider that hard to vote up: CT, myself, Oka and Slimer/gamma. most of yesterday was highly focused on pushing CT as well.

Scum-lean. Obviously if one of he and Slaxx flip red, the remaining should be cleared. I don't see two scum players yelling at each other to the point where they rage quit.

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You're a person 2 hasn't overly bothered me.

Town lean

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Brass, waver. If Slaxx were to flip red, I'd say that hop on and hop off of CT's wagon would look suspect. His pushes on Shoshin I liked however. Nobody but the two of us were really pushing that even when it was unpopular. Pushing unpopular reads like that can backfire quickly for scum. later followed by Cheeky as it was her only counter wagon at the time.

waver.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:15 pm
by Slaxx
Does Oka's sheep today "not make sense" in a town, scum, or NAI way to you Aubrey?

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:55 pm
by Aubrey
It’s no better than NL’s.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:14 pm
by u r a person 2
In post 413, Aubrey wrote:You're a person 2 hasn't overly bothered me.

Town lean
every other read feels thought out

i didn't vote for aubrey at the start of this day, and am being town read by many (most?) players.

This feels like scum!aubrey setting up a bad association for me post flip. I'm good with this.

VOTE: aubrey[/vote

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:15 pm
by u r a person 2
VOTE: aubrey

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:21 pm
by Aubrey
K. Whose the flag bearer then?

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:46 pm
by Slaxx
In post 418, Aubrey wrote:K. Whose the flag bearer then?
Lol I might be confbiasing but this reads like TMI

Like why would U2 assume he was Goon? I guess because he was widely scumread?

I’ll probably hammer later tonight if there’s no objections.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:47 pm
by Slaxx
Ohhhh I am confbiasing

Because setup implies another day which wouldn’t happen if it Aubrey was flag

Nvm

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:47 pm
by Slaxx
Actually this wagon feels a little easy I’d like to hear from Gamma.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:56 pm
by Aubrey
In post 419, Slaxx wrote:Lol I might be confbiasing but this reads like TMI
If he says I'm setting him up for when I flip, then he clearly should be assuming I'm not the flag bearer.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:09 pm
by Gamma Emerald
I’ll be here later today hopefully
Sorry for not posting for a while, I want to make significant progress catching up and posting when I’m not ready hurts that

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:15 pm
by u r a person 2
If you're the goon, flag bearer is 1 in {gemma, NL, slaxx}

if you're the flagbearer, and I'm misinterpreting a read that is simply lazy (or made for some other reason), the other scum is likely oka or gemma.

If you are town, then there are 2 in {nl, slaxx, gemma, oka} with oka being the least likely scum

this is all off the top of my head. I'll try and go back and really look into associations again over the next couple days.