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[RadiantCowbells]

Rce just discredited my scumread on a player NOTORIOUS for having a bad scum game and whom I am known for having a phenomenal ability to meta read by calling it a fear read.

Does anyone actually believe that that is something that he does as town? Does anyone actually believe that is something that he does when CoA is not a buddy?

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Because I won't just vote with you when I don't agree with You?

You actively seek to fuck me over however you possibly can to get something over on me.

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I don't know her meta, this is the first time I've seen CoA. So the way you've talked up her game is the only impression I have of her.

wow i totally believe you

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If I was a role cop confirmed cop with a guilty on someone you would still claim that you don't trust the guilty.

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Pick 1/2 of CoA and BnH. I'm nearly certain the third is RCEnigma but not risking the game voting them first. We're murdering the two confscum first.

[RadiantCowbells]

Rce just discredited my scumread on a player NOTORIOUS for having a bad scum game and whom I am known for having a phenomenal ability to meta read by calling it a fear read.

Does anyone actually believe that that is something that he does as town? Does anyone actually believe that is something that he does when CoA is not a buddy?

So this was also my issue with your Morality 1v1, you aren't really attacking him this game. Or me for that matter, based on this game. You're making it a personal meta issue. I simply want you to back your read change up with content.

Especially if I'm included in your scum team knowing I'm scum along with someone else that I have no reason to scumread and legitimate reasons to townread.

This isn't a pissing contest man, slow it down.

if you're town I want you instadead for double townreading scum. I don't care what else you have to say at this point. bye.

You really don't understand my motives when I do things though.

I don't? but you don't explain them. I'm left to come up with my own motives and I can't think of any towny ones.
So if you really think your intentions are good and you're not just screwing with me on principle why don't you explain your decisions instead of just working against me constantly and never giving a reason.

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I literally don't have a reason to scumread you that isn't picking out pieces of CoA and BnH's isos (who I do have hard reasons to scumread) and thinking that they make a lot of sense for you as third scum.

That's why I don't want to go after you. That's why I've repeatedly said that you're the potential hole in my theory. Etcetera. But if you're doubly defending them as someone who seems to be spewed scum by their isos, you die. end of story. you're a slot that has to go before endgame. so I don't see the point in trying to establish positive relations with you when I have to convince everyone else that I'm right.

[RadiantCowbells]

Rce just discredited my scumread on a player NOTORIOUS for having a bad scum game and whom I am known for having a phenomenal ability to meta read by calling it a fear read.

Does anyone actually believe that that is something that he does as town? Does anyone actually believe that is something that he does when CoA is not a buddy?

So this was also my issue with your Morality 1v1, you aren't really attacking him this game. Or me for that matter, based on this game. You're making it a personal meta issue. I simply want you to back your read change up with content.

Especially if I'm included in your scum team knowing I'm scum along with someone else that I have no reason to scumread and legitimate reasons to townread.

This isn't a pissing contest man, slow it down.

if you're town I want you instadead for double townreading scum. I don't care what else you have to say at this point. bye.

You really don't understand my motives when I do things though.

I don't? but you don't explain them. I'm left to come up with my own motives and I can't think of any towny ones.
So if you really think your intentions are good and you're not just screwing with me on principle why don't you explain your decisions instead of just working against me constantly and never giving a reason.

Sure, if it makes you feel any better I'll wager on it. If CoA and BnH both flip scum this game I'll quit the site.

Against site rules etc etc and the sole time I have ever seen a player make this wager they were scum making it regarding a scum teammate flipping scum.

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Thank you I appreciate that.

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Why not CoA?

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Maybe I lied. Maybe only the person I have an 100% track record in reading is actually confscum. Who knows. Why are you voting the person I don't have an 100% track record in reading if you're tryna do the right thing?

[RadiantCowbells]

{RCE, Morality, COA, BNH} contains all the scum.

I'm going to say that it's conceivable that BnH is actually town.

I'm tired of feeling that I have to use big rhetoric to be taken seriously but this is the scumpool that wins the game when its all dead.

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Oh and before CoA tries to bring up the two cases that she's going to use against me

1) the game she won where I was town I got force replaced before I could mention that I wasn't locktowning her like I said I was. I said I was because it was strategically useful to have her work with me.
2) THe game that I errantly scumread her... I ended up not scumreading her at the end. I had a scumread on her for a period. Sue me. I didn't lynch her.

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I dunno.

I'm actually worried that BnH is the town one out.

I really don't have a way of knowing. I'm not actually that good.

But that is 3/4 scum.

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kk well

don't like the vedith wagon even though i really think we should policy lynch him sooner rather than later.

VOTE: Creature

boooooo
Come on over yellow a seat just opened up

RC I'll chill on yellow for today and let you do your thing. If I'm right you'll see it eventually. You're not hitting scum if you lynch me though and we should do roomy or creature instead.
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Ftr these two are super towny posts. hard to fake. So.

Tarkus is town.
Creature is town.
Yellowsnow I always townread.
RC always was town.
Shoshin always was town.
Aura is aura.
Vorkuta is town.

This is already gamesolve. Going from there.

Vedith/DDL I have reasons to townread both of them as of right now. I think Vedith as scum... is actually worse than this. I think that DDL is too easy to lynch in the current gamestate.

So I'm actually willing to put every single person outside of these 4 people as townreads outside of the fact that 3 3/3 pairings make so much sense together.

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Also. FL trying to lynch me and shoshin makes SO MUCH FUCKING SENSE now that we know CoA is town.
Lynch one of us, nightkill the other, bam. lights out for town having any chance of winning.

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Now that we know CoA is scum.

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In fact

I'm gonna guess right now that boats n hoes is the towny

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Sheerly based off of RCEnigma randomly voting there when I'm already voting COA and there's no real reason to, etc.

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It also makes for a fairly tight scumteam where scum are absolutely refusing to bus

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Also explains why Morality is fine just bailing out: he wouldn't have expected either of his partners to be under fire. It's a strategic move. He isn't lynching me or shoshin, so he's just waiting for one of us to die. Town mislynches some random lynchbaity townie, I die (not shoshin), etc.

RCEnigma is being so push scum wincondition-y as well

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he's being a good little powerwolf tbh. i respect the powerwolfing from rcenigma.

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Ftr my initial impulse was

NSG/BNH confscum b/c there's literally no way that NSG doesn't recognize so therefore scum
but if NSG isn't actually trying to sort BNH, then, yeah. So really what was confirmed is that NSG is scum. nothing to do with BNH.

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Aura, morality conf town

So, Morality hasn't scumread me at all, probably scum but like I said I won't really read his play until tomorrow.

kappa

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So I've had an epiphany and if Creature flips town RC is always scum. Don't @ me.

VOTE: Creature btw.

But I'm done thinking for today, the more I think the scummier I think RC is.

But yeah I only want to flip creature today.

So RC not voting creature despite hyping him up as today's Lynch pinged me in retrospect. Running creature up spews his alignment as obvtown or kbvscum. Which kind of splits the Poe he keeps bringing up.

On top of that I could see RC setting up for late game already, his Poe is part of it, reluctance to Lynch what he called the power slots is another. It gives ScumRC wiggle room late so he can't be poe'd based on the strong players being nightkilled and RC remaining. Which would be one of the stronger points against him.

But yeah back to creature, I think if Creature is town RC is getting town to push creature for him. Or decide not to push him at all since he knows creatures alignment becomes clear close to a Lynch.

oh hey look

trying to set me up to take the fall when Creature flips town, pushing more scum wincon

[RadiantCowbells]

and that makes sense from a morality scumteam perspective. all the scum players are pushing mislynches. they're not trying to be sneaky wolves, they're all playing to powerwolf. pushing mislynches separately. making sure as many people as possible are in the lynchpool. pocketing different townies, etc.

[RadiantCowbells]

My hangup with RC/Morality was that if they both rolled scum together I was fully expecting them to buss each other day 1. I was waiting for it actually, and what do you know we have a 1v1 that fizzles out pretty quickly.

I'll ping out some of the posts that prefaced this but I mostly expected it based on Moralitys setup of the situation, it doesn't necessarily mean it's S/S but it was premeditated at least on Moralitys end.

also this

setting me up to be scum when morality flips scum

etc

[RadiantCowbells]

Shoshin I swear to god I am not wolf please I need you to work with me here

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Would you stop dumbtelling about not knowing it's getting really annoying

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not being an ass, just tryna win dis game

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that... is game related

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you seem to think that virtually everything i say is personal rather than game related when everything that i have said game related, only vedith at all goes outside of this game and it was still mostly regarding his play in this game

[RadiantCowbells]

i'm treating it like i think you would have figured it out by now if you were town and actually cared about sorting her. i'm treating it like you wouldn't locktown the slot not knowing that.
it's not outside of the game to say that you, in this game, are pretending not to know something that I think that you know.

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if you want a case on you based on inherent scum motivation of all of your actions i've already made it. already explained how all of you are pushing shit tons of mislynches and setting up scum favored dichotomies.

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That's not alignment indicative at all if I literally don't care about her alt since I'm sorting her based on THIS game.

i sincerely disbelieve that you lock her as town not knowing who she is. you're trying to argue a technicality based on how the game 'should' be played without arguing that you're town.

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funny how a second ago you were willing to make this gigantic bet about it.

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also regardless of your alignment lol even I have a point at which I'm obvious town and this is well past it. you just finished pointing out that I was being closer to your perception of my town meta. yet you're still hedging on my alignment.

I know that you gotta be ready to push me if town turns on me for my swift switch in reads but you don't have to be so obvious about it.

Whom I've only played one game with that there were mod replaced in.

still doesn't matter you're arguing technicalities.

[RadiantCowbells]

OK vote COA

it should be super not difficult to convince the rest of the town to vote someone that I have a phenomenal track record reading.

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Because I now have the same issue with you that I have with DDL in that I know you are pushing the wrong way in regards to me and simultaneously pushing someone I believe to be town.

thought you were willing to vote CoA?

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I'm arguing your basis on meta doesn't trump the actions specific to this game.

funny because like i've called out so much of your bullshit. trying to set me up s/s with morality. trying to set me up as scum if creature's town.

[RadiantCowbells]

no more lip service RCE. you can vote COA or you can not vote COA. i'm done with your caught for the wrong reasons bullshit about meta.

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what happens if you're voting scum?

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what if I'm actually all that, Kim Possible?

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No, I actually want you to not leave the site if they both flip scum

I want you to learn from your mistakes and continue to play

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well I guess that could be argued as more

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this isn't personal. i don't dislike you. i actually kind of like you. if you're scum I REALLY like you. I just have a game to win.
I'm not using stuff you don't like being pushed on to piss you off or as an affront, I'm just trying to struggle through things

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like I feel like you're taking stuff that's wholly in game personally. i don't even think you're a bad mafia player if you're doubly wrong. i haven't even gone that far. i just think your slot needs to die then. that's it.

[RadiantCowbells]

Please, just realize that I'm being me. It's nothing against you. I wasn't aware that you didn't deal with this kind of pressure well and I didn't really grok that was driving your responses until this page.

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I never want to hear how good you three are at town ever again when I flip. Your town block sucks and your reads suck.

Who is RC wrongly townreading?

if i'm correct, every single scum at the point where he said that.

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or, well. every non morality scum.

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Creature, take a leap of faith with me and murder COA

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just feel it man. sometimes you feel things

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I want morality added to that pool. the game ends when all 4 are dead. I'm back to thinking RCE is town but if he's scum I really don't want to reward him for the ate, so I still want him dead

fourth

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[RadiantCowbells]

seriously: don't worry about it. do your thing. i think that it's the 3 that aren't you even.

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I disagree with your disagreement

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i die n1. period. end story. thank you, the end.

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I have an iron clad reason to scumread CoA

Give my track record of reading her everyone who is town needs to vote with me instead of against m e

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I have read every single one of her games historically. I've misread her in spurts but I always find my way to the correct read. The correct read this game is she's scum.

I mean it when I say she has literally never played a game that I haven't at least skimmed

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She did a thingy

I guess we could vote morality but like reasons so

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It's what's not there, not what is there Shoshin

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I townread her because I wanted her to be town full stop. Saw her posting, wanted the game to be easy, wanted to have a check on my reads, was really easy to just call her town. When I said I didn't trust my read on her I realized how much I was just calling her town because I wanted her to be. Her iso is objectively a scum her iso

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Doubling down on this I think

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There is something in the iso that's super super gg nsg scum damning but I think it would be impossible to make you understand why and using it as evidence would probably discredit my entire case because you'd all be like ??? Cuz you don't know her like I do

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Just let me do my thing

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There's also the sheer waffliness, her *reasons* when trying to counterwagon morality, sheer lack of commentary on the slot when we established in a previous game that she would try to understand me vs Vedith who is town where she tried to get my read.

If I say why you'll disagree and you'll be wrong to didagree

[RadiantCowbells]

Like she doesn't have to follow me on morality

But she's certainly gonna engage me on my reasons or give some sort of read if she's town to avoid incurring my frustration

[RadiantCowbells]

She struggles to read me
She struggles with certain common behavior from town me
She struggles to get herself taken seriously sometimes

It is insanely out of character for her not to follow up with that in a way that involves us engaging more and giving her more material to read me off of or to make the game easier for her. That response comes from scum who wants to engage me less not more.

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At the very least if she was town she'd think about what it means that I'm trying to give her everything that she can to give her a good game.


There's also the fact that NOWHERE this game does she explore a thought process in a towny fashion. No stop and introspect around anything meaningful. just a bunch of reads that become other reads and trying to abuse my willingness to follow her to derail Morality

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Like she's not trying to sort people

That's really, really obvious to me going back

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It's not. And you can't read her like I can.

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That's... a terrible post to scumread, too

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To townread. Like what? You think that's outside of her scum range?

Creature could make that post as scum

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If you're calling her town you're calling me wolf Shoshin

Please keep that in mind. I think you're good but you just do not have the breadth of my knowledge about this specific player. No one does.

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We're not. Don't go down that road.

You're making a mistake thinking that I townread her in the reck game. I didn't. I never did. I said it because I thought it was useful to not fight against her.

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Like go back and read the fucking game read my reversal. You really believe that I was calling her scum to keep her alive?

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This is really stressing me out

I shouldnt need this much justification to claim a guilty on nsg

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It's my cakeday vote her as a cakeday present IDC why you do just do it

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I'm not lynching CoA today. There's better plays.

The sole better play involves forcing someone who is clearly suffering a great deal of stress from this game to have to fight against the strongest pusher that exists on the site

I am not going down that road.

Nit because you have cold feet about trusting me on a CoA read

Do you think that I'm scum, is that what this is about?

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I have the body of knowledge about NSG and the general competency to be able to just say she's scum 100% and it should be trusted. If you don't trust me I will lose trust that you're town for it and if you're town in the long run it will influence my trust in your abilities. If you're town you have got to just trust me.

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Yes that's a threat

I truly feel like unless you think that I'm scum there is no excuse for you not following me

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VOTE: Boats

Let's lynch this. No need for Creature/COA to post.

Like even this I could see as you trying to get me killed before I could read her. I'd you're town you could fuck this game over so so badly by not following me here. NSGs not worth it if you're scum with her. Just fucking vote her.

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That's a promise

If I survive tomorrow and you don't vote her you are fucking dead.

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Don't make me think that morality was right about you please

I don't want to do this I just want to fuxking kill scum NSG

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WHY ARE YOU FIGHTING A LYNCH ON SOMEONE I HAVE SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS MAINTAINING A READ ON WHEN YOU THINK THAT IM TOWN SHOSHIN

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We're done you're scum instead of morality stop talking to ne

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If you're town even if you weren't 100% on my read accuracy you'd see that it's the right play. You're just trying to keep her alive

Fuck the game mod for randing my favorite players against me

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emotions cloud my judgement?
no

my judgement is shit my emotions have carried me forever

when my judgement said NSG was scum the sole time i got her wrong emotionally i could not push her. made me nauseous trying. she was town. i trust my feelings.

you wouldn't do this as town. you're scum.

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boats n hoes was never a townread but you two are the only people who could slip into my blind spot.

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RCE I felt was town even if intellectually I didn't want to townread
Morality is still who teh fuck knows and is never going to be anything but. I'll get over it.

but you make every bit as much sense in the third slot in that scumteam

boats n hoes planned on being bussed, give you boatloads of towncred, give CoA a slot on the wagon and the ability to stall to D2. you eat the protectives allowing me to die. threats to both of you are gone and you're both in town leader position

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subtract RCE in my scumblock, add shoshin. you'll win. gg.

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VOTE: Boats

Let's lynch this. No need for Creature/COA to post.

see

i thought she could not possibly be saying this genuinely

i thought she was reaction testing me: i thought she was trying to test if I'd give her pushback

the answer is much simpler: she didn't want CoA to have to post while I was alive.

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go to hell shoshin.

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nothing personal. but you rolling scum here pisses me off so fucking much.

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everyone else

understand

that i literally

have read every nsg game. i've never ended with a wrong read on her. the reckoner game that shoshin and coa are gonna cite as me being wrong i made a guess at the scumteam which included her immediately after. the time that i pushed on her you can read for yourself that in the end i couldn't bring myself to lynch her. it's not just my reasoning you're trusting, it's that if I was pushing her when she was town I'd feel something wrong and it would tear me apart on the inside.

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I'm not scum, RC.

doing an awful job of showing it.

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there's literally no motivation for you to do what you're doing.

even if you mistrusted my read (i doubt you would) you'd see how worked up i'm getting and vote her anyway.

Are you going to talk to me about DDL?

no.

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ddl is now conftown. gl.

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note boats n hoes being online like, a fuckton today without posting in thread.

they're posting in scum pt. they're coming up with a plan of attack to deal with the current situation.

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Last visited:Today, 6:29 pm

not the only time they've visited and not posted.

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i too know how to hide my online status. yet i've never bothered doing so. i probably wouldn't have in your situation because i wouldn't expect to be called out on it.

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Just stop talking to you is giving me a headache.

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not reading that last post.

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Ok I got a breather

I don't think DDL is scum regardless of your alignment

I was not forthcoming about CoA because I feel like I shouldnt have to justify a read on CoA being who I am.

I'm probably not ever townreading you the remainder of the game from here so I'll try to Poe around you I guess

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Btw ily Shoshin and ily CoA out of game even though you're prolly both scum in this one

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two things

1) i never townread you. i've stated this already, i called you town to see what came of it.

2) shoshin/nsg are players that i like a lot and respect a lot and given how much i wanted thme to be town it's really easy for me to just slot them town.

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i first starting thinking critically about them relatively recently.

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3/4 {coa, rce, shoshin, morality}

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maybe but far less likely ddl.

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i think rce is most often town right now.

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i did

let's call it somewhere between 90 and 100 %

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electing not to answer.

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ok

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kk starting to think that i overreacted with my reads change on shoshin

but she really needs to vote coa...

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my lynchpool is COA/BnH

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i'll give a full readslist right now for the sake of having done so

RC
Aura
Creature
Vorkuta never scum

YellowSnow
Tarkus almost never scum

Vedith
RCEnigma probably town

Shoshin
DDL more likely than not town

-very long distance-

{COA, BnH, Morality} ultrascummy

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i have felt really helpless to push my reads this game and when I feel like that you get the ragey frustrated RC you've been getting over the last dozen odd pages.
everyone was shitting on my morality scumread. then i got forced to abandon it by an out of game appeal when i knew it was scum. now i've solved the rest but i feel like no one's going to listen
even if i flip one of my scumreads and get scum everyone's just going to go back to their pet scumreads. it'll still be DDL tomorrow then whatever lynchbait follows that.
i have a ridiculous track record feeling the way that the future goes on gut and I feel in my heart that this ends up being a town loss after I get ignored despite the solve.
and that makes me lash out but that doesn't really help anything I guess? but I think it's truly unfathomable that I work to develop an 100% read on someone to have it ignored.

there's a really narrow path to victory here and that victory involves people who are town actually trusting my reads. can't force you to do that. but for

reasons

this game is important to me.
i'm done pushing this, it's no longer worth it at this point. if you think that you're better than me, if you think that your pet scumreads are more important, fine. do whatever.
i have no desire to win this game by brute forcing everyone into doing what i want. i feel that's the only way to win, and i feel that i am playing against my wincon by letting go, but fine.
my fatal flaw as town is that my scumgame gets me in situations like this game where I'm either so burnt out and frustrated at the town or so scumread that I can't convince anyone of anything
and that's not going to change this game. i think i'm at the point where if people like shoshin despite knowing that I have an 100% read rate on NSG

still want to fight me because I've pissed them off that much that i'd rather just take the loss and leverage my success here in future games.

UNVOTE:

do what you want.

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i'm never gonna make paragon with my scumgame so I might as well just be sure I make 12 players and a mod instead

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fun fun fun fun fun~

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Please drill into your heads the fact that Morality was going on shore leave when the viable wagons were all on town but now that CoA is at risk he comes back and tries to push another mislynch

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Boats n hoes / morality never stopped being obviously scum vs scum btw

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RcE towntold really hard and morality is still pushing there

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Oh morality is back

VOTE: MORALITY

this Lynch is still a gamesolve on a silver platter
I'll case it again with associatives and just general scum stuff

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There's a lot for CoA to respond to if she's town I'd like to give her that safety net now that another person I can confidently say is scum is on the table

I'm now at least somewhat wary that my nsg scumread came from a bad place, I would appreciate the chance for her to come back and confirm herself one way or the other.

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Like I did my reread this morning and it became more hey bnh Morality is locked in and theres a wide pool of people {Tarkus, ddl, CoA, probs not Shoshin unless she's trying to bus both her partners} who could be the third

Now unfortunately I don't know what the reaction tells me about CoA because I could see both of them in either universe, either trying to keep scum her alive but hedging on the flip or just trying to get town cred for her getting hilariously mislynched

I don't rly deserve to say she's 100% scum right now. I'm not there yet I lied because I got tilted and it didn't seem like anyone was listening w

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But actually

I think there's a better lynch here than even morality

VOTE: boats n hoes

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Wait is that right? I dunno. My head is fuzzy.

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Shoshin what's your readslist

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I've made posts like Morality is making on this page an absurd number of times as wolf. They're effective at getting you townread because they typically come across as genuine town thinking things when it's really just bullshit

Also i have a lot of games where I've used hey this is how I play scum to attack townies who are being objectively towny by trying to judge them to a different standard

Yeah Morality is the right D1 lunch. I guess if CoA won't hop on we can lynch her

My big paranoia point on CoA is that I think it's an all Town or all but one town wagon. Knowing that and knowing that if she's scum she is always going to fall to my push... why are Morality and BnH not bussing? They're both antibus but does that extend to this situation? I think it doesn't. I think that I made a mistake and that morality and BnH are trying to milk my incorrect CoA push for all the town cred they can get. It's possible it's the buddy and they somehow think the play is to defend her, but that's a discussion for another time I think.

VOTE: Morality if I haven't already

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I feel a lot better about this either way

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I see you as the scum who’s controlling this game, and you’ll probably get pretty far into this game.

I’m hoping you make the mistake of trying to keep me alive to mislynch me later.

These are posts that you make as scum to preemptively lead your audience into thinking a set of events means a narrative is true. In this case, Shoshin and FL living -> Shoshin keeping FL alive. I would go a step further even and say experientially that Flavor Leaf intends to be the 'deepwolf' and not get his hands dirty at all and save Shoshin for the lylo mislynch

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I suppose that I would, yeah, but I have some really unfair advantages here that you must have put together by now regarding why I'm so sure that you are scum.

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Well then if that's the case it doesn't exactly help your case because it explains why you would suicide bomb the fuck out of the two strongest non-NSG townies in thread. Even if you're not actually dragging Shoshin all the way to endgame which was sheer conjecture on my part.

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I mean for all of NSGs skills I feel very unthreatened by her town game if I was hypothetically scum. Unless it's a lobby where her being conftown takes away all my paths to victory

Sidestory aside: we can always lynch boats n hoes

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I mean I think you're buddies and I'm gonna leave a strong mandate for you to follow but hey at least you get a chance to give reads with 1 flipped scum

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My thought process is something like

??????? welp I'm dead anyway so gbai

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How's that?

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c that makes so much sense but like

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RadiantCowbells has been flipped he was a vanilla townie etc etc

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If I were a protective, I’d target you.

Actually this isnt entirely true. I’d let townRC die sometimes so I can catch scum in his town locks. But regardless, yeah, I’d go over that possibility.

Ftr I think it's playing against wincon not to vote you

I just don't want to have to muscle everyone back onto you

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I find statements like that odd. I don't shine at any point I just find a path to endgame and I execute it

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If anything I excel at pushing lynches but I earned that skill through town play and just apply it to scum games... So is that really a scum skill I wonder.

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Going to ask for an extension on day.

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In the end this all matters very little

CoA response to the last dozen pages determines if she's the Lynch or not

From there it's basically whichever of you and BnH that people townread less

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I'm going to actually read Shoshins scum game for a little bit of context but I doubt it changes my read on her much

Maybe if scum is something like Tarkus Shoshin BnH

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Like I do see this world

I just think it's... less likely than other worlds

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You scumreading shoshin and not considering Tarkus the obvious obvious partner is weird to me

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Like either flip fmpov you'd speedlynch the other

You haven't even brought it up

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So you see why I wolfread you

The entire push comes across as super half baked

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You've called Shoshin scum and you've considered what Shoshin would do as it pertains to me because it sounds good but you haven't even made a cursory effort to check her associatives

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Look at how Shoshin reacts every time Tarkus Lynch is brought up she hems and haws and requests more info.
I think I'm gonna vote boats n hoes for the safe scumfllip

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But we need CoA

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Ok I would have caught Shoshin effortlessly in StarCraft

Let's read this game again

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Conceivable I guess?

Fuck it yachts n escorts it is

VOTE: boats n hoes

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As a game let's treat it like a confirmed fact that at least one of Shoshin and Morality is a wolf. If both of them feel this strongly about it it's probably true.

Why is it a scumtell

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Maybe her heart just aches for me to return her affections.

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I want to case all the things that i see as possibilities but I don't wanna dilute my message

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I wonder if Shoshin Morality could even be SvS

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I expressly object to CoA lynch

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I wonder if Shoshin Morality could even be SvS

Ssh, ssh, don’t think like this.

Sry I am thinking like this

If Tarkus is town and Shoshin is scum you're prolly next on the buddy list

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Ughhhhhh

Okay let's start over

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Let's start over

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I'm town
Creature is town
Vorkuta is town
Aura is town
DDL should be town
YellowSnow town

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RC Creature Vorkuta Aura DDL YellowSnow RCE maybe Johnny?

Still a good starting point . .

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Hypothetically if boats is town which maybe?

Shoshin Morality CoA Tarkus

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Okay RC you have this thread under your thumb anyway

Serious question do you not think that I'm town

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Fuck it morality is right every time.

VOTE: Morality

I think 1/2 of CoA and Tarkus is villager other is wolf
I think shoshin morality scum v scum answers a lot a lot of questions

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Okay RC you have this thread under your thumb anyway

Serious question do you not think that I'm town

Dunno, I can't really read you.

Damn straight now sheep me

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No.

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I wonder if Shoshin Morality could even be SvS

Reading for this cleared everything up in my head I think

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If I were a betting man I'd even out Tarkus as third

I might even have the confidence to make a case

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I think your and Shoshins actions indicate SvS

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The reason you don't want to lynch CoA today is because you feel like Morality will slip away if you die tonight?

No I'm just not 100% that she actually is not town

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So that's great and when she still does nothing here we lynch her

But give her until prod to do something

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What happened to me being scum for even suggesting she was wolf

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No you're just objectively a wolf

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RC / CoA / Morality is my solve, and that is not why I have you as scum

Guess who doesn't want morality getting wagoned again huh

Maybe Shoshin was the villa or maybe all 3 of you are scum or something

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Fuck

Stop faking consideration and just scumhammer like you're obviously going to

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You stopped pushing Boon for his irl shit VERY quickly, and you did it again with me for a bit, and you'll probably find another way off the lynch. Yet, I'm busy irl (hey mr online stalky actvity i was online exactly once twice when the wifi actually connected in the waiting room) and you held no regard for that. Which is fine, I chose not to sub, but you excused yourself from the Morality lynch way too quickly.

WOW SUCH BULLSHIT

YOU ARE VOTING THE COUNTERWAGON TO MORALITY AND CALLING ME SCUM FOR BACKING OFF MORALITY WHEN THEY ASKED ME TO LEAVE THEM ALONE FOR OUT OF GAME REASONS

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Telling you guys literally 100% of the time boats n hoes reversal on CoA was scum realizing that Morality is gonna get lynched if he doesn't. He voted the counterwagon to morality on the basis that they were scum with morality after he in his previous posting called them literally conftown. CoA takes breaks from posting constantly it's NAI

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THE MORALITY WAGON IS YOU AND SHOSHIN, THE LATTER OF WHOM YOURE CALLING POSSIBLE SCUM, THATS IT. I AM NOT LETTING YOU MISLYNCH ME TODAY. IS CAPS LOCK FUN?

You are a bad scum player

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Town if you don't see how bullshit those reversals are and power Lynch not one but both of BnH and Morality then you are all shitty players. No comment on the third scum from me I'm not diluting my message.

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Telling you guys literally 100% of the time boats n hoes reversal on CoA was scum realizing that Morality is gonna get lynched if he doesn't. He voted the counterwagon to morality on the basis that they were scum with morality after he in his previous posting called them literally conftown. CoA takes breaks from posting constantly it's NAI

I was never getting lynched here and you know that...

I have never been lynched with you in my game except the one time you were scum, and it was lylo.

You were going to die until you went bitch mode and used the RL defense to stop you getting lynched as scum you cowardly fuck

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Town if you don't see how bullshit those reversals are and power Lynch not one but both of BnH and Morality then you are all shitty players. No comment on the third scum from me I'm not diluting my message.

You’ve made more reversals than anyone.

You were calling COA lockscum earlier

Just stop

Morality/BnH SvS. Partner is in Shoshin/Tarkus/RCE

Every other player in the game
RC Creature Vorkuta DDL JohnnyEnglish Aura YellowSnow etc all town

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Still think CoA has a decent chance of being scum and that was just some nasty townhammer.

No it wasn't

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Town if you don't see how bullshit those reversals are and power Lynch not one but both of BnH and Morality then you are all shitty players. No comment on the third scum from me I'm not diluting my message.

You’ve made more reversals than anyone.

You were calling COA lockscum earlier

Just stop

Morality/BnH SvS. Partner is in Shoshin/Tarkus/RCE

Every other player in the game
RC Creature Vorkuta DDL JohnnyEnglish Aura YellowSnow etc all town

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Town if you don't see how bullshit those reversals are and power Lynch not one but both of BnH and Morality then you are all shitty players. No comment on the third scum from me I'm not diluting my message.

You’ve made more reversals than anyone.

You were calling COA lockscum earlier

Just stop

Morality/BnH SvS. Partner is in Shoshin/Tarkus/RCE

Every other player in the game
RC Creature Vorkuta DDL JohnnyEnglish Aura YellowSnow etc all town

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Eddie cane is not good scum
This entire setup is so fucking obvious

If you don't powerlynch both of them when I wind up dead you're terrible.

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uwu

what the votes at

Boats n hoes set up boons scumhammer when their last post on the topic was saying how they were obvtown

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We were gonna lynch Morality before then FL uses out of game reasons as a defense

We were going to now then boats n hoes while asserting that morality is scum enables him to quickhammering CoA while not even expressing concern that his stated scumread just quick hammered

They're not even pretending not to be scumbuddies

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RC explain your Snow read huh?

I give explanations that only opens them up to being argued with when i am dead. My POE is right you're a wolf morality is a wolf all the players I've card town are.

BnH JUST ASKED FOR A DEADLINE EXTENSION SUPPOSEY

THEN IMMEDIATELY SETS UP A QUICK HAMMER ON COA

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Btw the way they're talking about me I'm 110% the nightkill so

your last posts didn't have me in the scum pool, and were talking about not lynching my "partner" boon. more like, mr stalky online time, that is the first time i've logged on since the morning and i dont have time for the game.

I for the span of 5 posts while always considering you in the scumpool thought about what the world would be if you were town. In that world Shoshin Morality always SvS.

For fucks sake if there's a doctor and you're not on me you're gamethrowing aura is gonna do nothing with their misplaced morality TR

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RC explain your Snow read huh?

I give explanations that only opens them up to being argued with when i am dead. My POE is right you're a wolf morality is a wolf all the players I've card town are.

BnH JUST ASKED FOR A DEADLINE EXTENSION SUPPOSEY

THEN IMMEDIATELY SETS UP A QUICK HAMMER ON COA

ok but Vorktua and then I asked you for explanations 50 pages ago when you had me and him as town reads, and you didn't do it then. its not a fucking real read

No shit it's not a real read

I expressly states that my townread on you was a lie to see what you'd do.

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I still need to find out who tf is BnH

No you don't it doesn't matter all you gotta do is lynch them

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Stop avoiding lol

You can't call my reads fake when I'm flipped town and if you don't kill me I'll personally bitchslap your scumteam 3 in a row

I have literally no reason to give you a word of explanation about any read that I have, thanks.

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Also note how BnH is twisting reality regarding me discussing what the world is if he's villager and me trying to explain what the world is to him in that world being equivalent to villagereading him when I have called him wolf all day

Also note that when the counterwagon to CoA was NOT morality he was perfectly happy to call her town but when Morality is back under fire he's 180ing a lock town read to set up a scum hammer by his scumread.

I switch my reads around as part or the scumhunting process. When I am flipped town it is ok confirmed that my reads come from a genuine place. Other people universally do not 180 townreads like that to enable scum hammers and CoAs townflip should at the very least show that my process of reevaluating and clarifying gets my reads to a better and better location.

They did not want to lose Morality today so they used out of game defenses and now they double scumhammered CoA. When I'm gone there will only be Shoshin who might not even be village and an IC who hard townreads scum for no reason. You guys need to power train BnH and Morality consecutively. I S2G at the VWRY LEAST 1 of them flips scum but both ot them really are just scum. Look at the horrible BnH scumread on Morality that morality calls him locktown for.

My trajectory into tomorrow is clear and I'm obviously VT. I only die to protect morality and BNH

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Also note that BNH is sitting there calling ME scum instead of the guy who just scumhammered. What kind of position is that as town? He's not even pretending to be sorting Morality genuinely

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And all this btw goes regardless of the flip

I'm 90%+ on town right now but even if scum the same rationale works that they would rather lose CoA than Morality and in that world the lynchpool is literally only 2 people: BNH then Morality

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Understand

That there is a reason

That scum thought it was worth throwing two slots in the toilet to shut me up when I am dead tonight

There is a reason for that and that is my Poe townlist