2078: Any Non-Dead Person Can Post In This Mafia Game [end]

RadiantCowbells · Fri Jul 05, 2019 6:51 am

quack

RadiantCowbells · Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:54 am

RadiantCowbells · Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:57 am

wait uh

uh

237

isn't prime

what am i doing

RadiantCowbells · Fri Jul 05, 2019 7:58 am

oh it's 137 ok

RadiantCowbells · Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:00 am

136

*

RadiantCowbells · Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:07 am

ack

that's 137 so still ok

sky i will recruit you don't think i won't do it

RadiantCowbells · Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:09 am

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

RadiantCowbells · Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:10 am

NO I SEE THE WHOOPSGAZER ONLINE

RadiantCowbells · Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:11 am

RadiantCowbells · Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:11 am

have fun being part of this game skygazer

RadiantCowbells · Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:13 am

wtb +1

RadiantCowbells · Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:14 am

want to buy

RadiantCowbells · Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:17 am

RadiantCowbells · Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:19 am

LOG OFF OF EMOTIONAL ROLLERCOASTER RIGHT NOW

RadiantCowbells · Fri Jul 05, 2019 8:20 am

next good number is 144

RadiantCowbells · Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:16 am

so you were 3p?

RadiantCowbells · Fri Jul 05, 2019 10:17 am

actually yeah there's no way PP was 3p, he's just scum.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:13 pm

Hey Mastina we had a JoAT component to our role.

If you're town, why did you lie about your role and why did you not claim earlier?

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:13 pm

We had a role cop on Mastina is what we're saying, and she's not the role she has claimed.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:19 pm

idk why mastina as town would ever not claim the roleblocker component so i'm pretty sure she's scum but please don't vote her until we get back ausuka

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:24 pm

In post 5968, RadiantCowbells wrote:please don't vote her until we get back ausuka

btw if you were bluffing about your cop restriction out your result as well

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:24 pm

In post 5969, ofrhz wrote:Can you fullclaim? What were the other JOAT components

why are you asking us to fullclaim here?

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:26 pm

maybe she had a good reason for withholding the claim

aren't we confirmed town anyway?

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:29 pm

mastina?

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:34 pm

yeah honestly i don't know if we were going to get anything out of mastina from that but that ofrhz reaction was pretty fucking awful.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:42 pm

GOOD product we put pepper on it in my household

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 08, 2019 5:42 pm

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:32 am

We r the best

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:18 am

Annie!

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 09, 2019 7:42 am

I'm going to add bitmap if it's a loss and someone else if it's a win.

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:41 am

why solve the game when we can post dank memes

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:41 am

also scumbag creature

need you to spew us town? nowhere to be seen
cleared in mylo? shows up in scum PT "HEY GUYS HOW CAN WE SOLVE THIS GAME"

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:45 am

oops umm

hmmm

did i say scum pt?

i totally meant neighbourhood pt

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:45 am

wait

no

hydra pt

sorry

yeah

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:46 am

HOW CAN WE SOLVE THIS GAME?

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:17 pm

where tf are mastina and ausuka

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:07 pm

Hope you feel better soon mastina

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:10 am

Lil Uzi vert must not be posting his IC post so the newbies can't catch him.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:47 am

In post 6072, ofrhz wrote:I just realized, isn’t today actually lylo because mastina is hated? And not mylo

Doesn't that assume that she's town

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 10, 2019 7:55 am

Left.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:01 am

Should I be looking for scum or shitposting

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 10, 2019 8:28 am

No but I think you're pretty cute.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:27 pm

It's unfortunate that I think the likeliest scum by a significant amount is Ofrhz and yet they're the most widely townread here.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 10, 2019 2:30 pm

Besides us I guess.

Is it casing time?

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:32 pm

i was kinda hoping for something closer to "yes absolutely we will sheep you rc"

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 10, 2019 3:54 pm

no game ends today

everyone can do all the shitposting they ened

jsut don't cover up my serious content post when i do it

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:18 am

Can you list reasons to townread Ofrhz all in one place pls

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:44 pm

you're not trying to solve
you're making low key attempts to discredit the townlocks that people have on me
you haven't really said anything about who you scumread

feels like you're waiting and hoping someone votes mastina so you can quickhammer.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Jul 12, 2019 7:40 am

VOTE: Ankamius

sorry we were scum gg ty for the win

RadiantCowbells · Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:29 am

VOTE: Ofrhz

the latter. i'm done from here.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:34 am

actually it's PoE because every other slot is town.

i'll follow through and finish this game I guess.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:40 am

it's not mastina because they clearly roleblocked her

ohh

unless mastina's an odd night roleblocker

okay give me a bit

VOTE: unvote

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:45 am

Ausuka you understand that we're mechanically cleared, correct?
Both our role and night actions are confirmable, and there's no way that Xyzzy would have given 1 scum role multiple active abilities and the other two none.

Ofrhz, shortly after you claimed governor PP claimed a guilty on Pine, and by doing so made it impossible for your role ever to be tested for the remainder of the game.
You also keep alluding to "testing" your role in ways that would give you the win as scum.
Jingle said the fakeclaim was super good so clear but it would actually be a super easy fakeclaim to come up with by just basing it off of Pine's claimed role if you already know he's town and changing the relevant thread and effects.

I also just find that role super unlikely, so.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:46 am

basically my argument for 100% clearing mastina was that it was obvious that scum used the roleblocker on her on N2 since they would have otherwise roleblocked the vig when they killed her
but I guess that doesn't apply if it's jailkeeper or odd-night

still think mastina's more likely to be town than you. you keeping your options open on me when I'm objectively cleared feels like you know you might need to 1v1 me to win this game.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:48 am

In post 1464, zoraster wrote:Wagonomics is third party. Thank you and goodnight.

this happened though

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:49 am

like as soon as you claimed and we started discussing how to confirm your role (and not even your alignment) PP claimed a guilty.

It didn’t count

why?

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:55 am

ok i checked pine's role and it had that qualifier too

i think it's really obvious that ausuka isn't the scum here
i don't know why you/mastina are putting that forward and i think mastina is more likely to be horribly wrong as town than you are

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:56 am

wait

how much town power would that be

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:57 am

so who are you pushing then?

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:57 am

so who are you pushing then?

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:58 am

ok sure

so now what

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 13, 2019 6:59 am

if mastina is scum roleblocker this game is nastily townsided
if ausuka is scum roleblocker this game is slightly scumsided
if ofrhz is scum roleblocker the game seems mostly fine balance wise

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:01 am

like neither flipped scum had any powers

if mastina's a hated roleblocker
scum had to face

ic
cop
vig
governor
multiple hydra recruiters
loverizer (which balances as 2 flips)

with their most powerful PR playing at a deficit and being unable to live to lylo situations
i really can't see that. i think xyzzy is better than that.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:02 am

ok i changed my mind

the game is townsided no matter what

roleblocker doesn't contest any of that, mastina being hated or not

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:02 am

like unless you have both a governor and the roleblocker

but that's similarly wtf design choice from xyzzy whereby if you got copped d1 the game would be 100% over

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:02 am

even if it's not doubling up on night actions

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:03 am

has xyzzy ever included or talked about including factional scum powers in their games before?

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:04 am

because the best answer here

is that ofhrz is the role that he says he is

and scum also have a factional roleblock

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:05 am

how opposed am I to just leaving my vote on ofrhz and seeing if mastina hammers

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 13, 2019 7:11 am

no one said that mastina was confirmed town

today was always between ofrhz/mastina

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:53 am

When this game is over i'm free.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 9:59 am

yea that

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:09 am

In post 3136, PenguinPower wrote:
In post 3125, ofrhz wrote:Yo what’s happenin

How has PP still not claimed

Kinda unfortunate for him but we know he read this page at the very least and someone mentioned that we’re waiting for him to claim zzzz
Yes, because seeing a mod post that a player repped back in is the same as reading the game. I'm usually inactive on weekends so sorry for the delay.

I'm a town 100 page tracker (as long as I don't have 10% of the posts) 200 page watcher (as long as I don't have 5% of the posts) 1000 page next day innocent child (as long I don't have 3% of the posts).

I tracked Pine last night and saw him visit nomnomnom.

In post 2281, EeveeLution Army wrote:
In post 2277, ofrhz wrote:I don’t think you’re lynched? In any case, I voted for you after nom

Right right sometimes main site lingo slips in
Main site lynch = vote hammer= lynch

both ELA and PP have literally one mention of or interaction with ofrhz in their iso and thee ELA one feels completely unnecessary and the PP one feels like they're trying to show that they're in conflict

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:16 am

ofrhz also managed to vote both of penguinpower and ELA on the first day and was voting one of the two of them for almost all of the day.
they voted roster when they were getting wagoned but then unvoted for "hey look im so protown" reasons and ended up not being on the wagon at eod despite being a claimed scumread.
the rest of the time they spent vanity wagoning.

d2 they lampshaded the roleblocked vigilante by immediately asking about it then literally 0 engages with ELA. Even though the guilty was somewhat questionable they don't give a stance. they just voted them and then fluffposted until the day ended. they didn't comment on mastina's retraction of the guilty either.

the claim is also super, super questionable as a scum role.

i really don't understand how anyone townreads them. i feel like this is one of those games where scum is just obvious and everyone else is being stupid for no real reason.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:18 am

they also 0 commented on the possibility that Pine could be the scum instead, they just left their vote on PP and never engaged with it.
they're pretty much exactly what I would expect scum in this game to look like at every point in the game

Mastina was using the postcount regarding their role as a thing but given that they were literally fakeclaiming a guilty and getting powerlynched the next day, clearly scum weren't relying on the godfather role.

Hmmm, ofrhz, are there four other people who would qualify?

pine flipped town, so not really.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:19 am

like mastina post was saying really stupid shit along the lines of "oh well he scumread every scum on D1 so he's towny"

that's literally the opposite of how this works.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:20 am

and yeah. ofrhz did nothing today, and their explanation of why they were scumreading us despite us being objectively conftown by role is that we were scumreading their slot.

so...

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:25 am

In post 6103, mastina wrote:
In post 60, ofrhz wrote:Yah yeet
*instantly opens ofhrz's iso*
*It's five pages long*

...

Given PenguinPower's real role, that uhh...that actually looks really damn clearing for him?

In post 732, ofrhz wrote:VOTE: penguin
Could be a bus vote; there's no real reasoning attached here.

That being said, while ofhrz's content is lowkey, it IS there the entire time, too.

In post 924, ofrhz wrote:Why is PP town?
There's naked voting for distancing and then there's some actual attempts at leading a lynch on scum which is therefore either bussing or town; this looks like the latter and of the "bussing or town", the latter actually looks more likely.

In post 1083, ofrhz wrote:Penguin and Pine are both town?
In post 1089, ofrhz wrote:I think Penguin is scum!
In post 1095, ofrhz wrote:I think PP usually gives more reads by now if he were town

And also GUT
This looks REALLY good for ofhrz.

In post 2255, ofrhz wrote:
In post 2253, Ausuka wrote:I don't think that's beneficial right now.
Why not?
Not a comment on ofhrz but my random theory time is that Ausuka's telling the truth about the conditions for her role to function but is lying and she's actually a roleblocker who needs those conditions in order to roleblock.

Marking this for reference; ofhrz, the day before PP's roleclaim, had 125 posts and many of them had actual content in them. By the end of the day, this was 920 posts.
920 + PP's 62 + EeveeLution Army's 66 = maximum scum content of 1048/5450 posts: 19.22935779816514% of the total posts in the game.
In post 5928, xyzzy wrote:starting on day 1, if the game thread reaches 200 pages with no more than 5% of the posts having been made by any individual member of the mafia, you will become a godfather for the rest of the game. once you become a godfather, if an investigative role would investigate you, their results would suggest that you are a member of the town.

starting on day 2, if the game thread reaches 1000 pages with no more than 2% of the posts having been made by any individual member of the mafia, you will become a vigilante for the rest of the game. once you become a vigilante, each night, you can target another player. that player will die.

starting on day 3, if the game thread reaches 3000 pages with no more than 1% of the posts having been made by any individual member of the mafia, you will become lynchproof for the rest of the game. once you become lynchproof, if you would die as a result of a majority of players voting for you during the day, the day will instead continue without you dying in this way.
Oh it's individual member of the mafia, but point still holds. A mafiate needed to not make more than 5% of the posts.
920/5450 = 16.88073394495413%. Over triple that.

That seems to REALLY strongly suggest ofhrz town here.

In post 3038, ofrhz wrote:Mastina, Jingle, Ausuka, Titus town
I will be voting in Penguin, Pine, and Who today
This looks good for ofhrz.

In post 3125, ofrhz wrote:Yo what’s happenin
How has PP still not claimed
Kinda unfortunate for him but we know he read this page at the very least and someone mentioned that we’re waiting for him to claim zzzz

In post 3127, ofrhz wrote:VOTE: penguin
Again, seems to indicate ofhrz is town.

rule of 3 containing exactly one scum and no supporting details
that awful PP vote that was the only one that PP felt the need to respond to
why is PP town is a classic scum-scum post

everything on this list i would slot as reasons to scumread ofrhz and yet mastina has chosen to hold them up as examples of why he's town

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:25 am

i'm almost wondering if it's possible t

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:26 am

Is there any possibility at all that Ofrhz and Mastina are scum together?

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:26 am

OH MY GOD

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:26 am

OH MY GOD

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:26 am

THAT"S FUCKING IT HTINK ABOUT IT

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:26 am

think about it

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:27 am

Wait why's the game still ongoing then

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:29 am

But still that makes so much fucking sense
The game seems townsided because there's four scum, probably with one traitor
Ofrhz's role is real but he's traitor, Mastina is hated roleblocker, idk about the ELA guilty but like
That's why they're both defending each other today when it's obvious that everyone outside of the two of them is town

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:29 am

Mastina has to be the one that we can lynch to win if they're both scum or we can't win

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:30 am

Or maybe some sort of white flag and there's no traitor?

The interactions going towards ofrhz feel SvS both ways

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:31 am

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:32 am

the balance is so much less questionable if there's four scum

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:32 am

like we have so much town power

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:32 am

What if ofrhz is traitor and by lynching him instead of mastina we lose?

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:34 am

scum had the same win condition that we did

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:34 am

what if scum thought that our slot was the traitor?

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:36 am

btw technically mastina is being truthful when she asserts that she put ofrhz as scum all game
but EVERY SINGLE REFERENCE to him being scum, she puts him at the bottom of his lynchpool
like in the lynchpool but never in a position that she's ready to vote him. she hedges on him with ausuka sometimes, puts him in fourth slot, etc.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:39 am

In post 34, mastina wrote:
In post 17, SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis wrote:
In post 0, xyzzy wrote:mastina
Jingle
Ausuka
Wagonomics
PenguinPower
rosterfoster
Gamma Emerald
EeveeLution Army
Pine
Who
nomnomnom
Lavender
ofrhz
My GUESS is Pine, Lavender, adn the Gamma Emerald slot! ヽ(〃･ω･)ﾉ
Nahhh Gamma slot's town. Not sure about Lavender, but I'll allow it as a "sure, why not?" guess. My money's on Ausuka/ofrhz as the most likely third.

In post 128, mastina wrote:
In post 122, rosterfoster wrote:MASTINA <3
Yo.
You're town by virtue of the scumteam being Pine, Lavender, and one of Ausuka/ofrhz. So I can indeed return the <3.

In post 497, mastina wrote:
In post 207, Jingle wrote:As a compulsive loyal vig who do you kill?
Pine-->Lavender-->Ausuka-->ofrhz, obv.

In post 516, mastina wrote:
In post 499, Jingle wrote:reads list, mastina?
To a lesser extent?
Everyone outside of Pine/Lavender/Ausuka/ofrhz as town.

It's actually kinda redundant to go any further than that. Like, it's literally just. "All these people are town, but these people are MORE town than town".

So.

Jingle
Wagonomics

Titus
PenguinPower
rosterfoster
nomnomnom

Who
EeveeLution Army

ofrhz
Ausuka
Lavender
Pine

Like this. Basically-conftown, high-town, town-but-I-won't-fight-their-inevitable-mislynches, scum. And you can flip any names in any tier pretty much as much as you'd like and it'll be just as accurate a readslist.

In post 2034, mastina wrote:
In post 1854, rosterfoster wrote:
In post 1849, ofrhz wrote:UNVOTE:
I think we should wait for jingle to chime in first
I don’t think Pines role condition has been met yet either
This is a town post btw
Noooooo it's pretty blatantly a scum post.

In post 2039, mastina wrote:
In post 1932, rosterfoster wrote:So let’s put Pine/Lavender/Ausuka as the scumteam with who as the filler
Substitute Who for ofrhz and you have a deal!

In post 2429, mastina wrote:
In post 2248, ofrhz wrote:VOTE: eevee
For the record.

Really not fond of both of my tertiary scumspects pushing for an Eevee lynch...

...When my result, albeit potentially damning, is in no way an assured 100% guilty.

In post 4763, mastina wrote:
In post 3067, ofrhz wrote:I’m a conditional governor. Conditional on one of the top 5 posters from the us politics thread making a post here that’s relate to us politics
(If Ausuka's legitimately town, then this is our third scum btw. Not only is that an easy fakeclaim, but also if it is a real role I'd expect it to be a scum one.)

In post 4789, mastina wrote:
In post 3231, ofrhz wrote:Why is everyone so sleepy today
Well me? I was diagnosed with a vitamin D deficiency, so.
Still working on fixing that.

FUCKING LOOK AT THIS JESUS

all the hedges on different slot's flips
calls it a lockscum post then still puts them only as filler scum after
uses ofrhz's vote as an excuse not to vote ELA

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:41 am

yeah okay.

Mastina if you don't vote Ofrhz in your next post I'm voting you.

not sure what to do from here but that's definitely a thing.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:42 am

like we still HAVE to have a path to victory, correct?

So we should be able to win somehow by lynching Mastina?

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:42 am

Maybe this is unannounced white flag for scum, maybe ofrhz is just a traitor. idk.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:46 am

if they're svs

we know based on the fact that the game isn't over that the path to victory is lynching mastina b/c we can't force an ofrhz lynch without her vote.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:49 am

would xyzzy be cruel enough to have continued the game when it was already lost

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:50 am

In post 902, ofrhz wrote:
In post 14, mastina wrote:Oh perfect timing.
So this will presumably be shown in a VC the moment it comes true, but just in case it doesn't, I'm a conditional hated; the condition is 25 people posting in this thread.
Given the game's theme, that's going to happen in, what, like, 24 hours? Soyeah basically I'm hated for the full game length. Pretty sure it doesn't go away in lylo, either, so lylo's a day earlier if I'm still alive unless I'm the lynch the day before lylo.
Maybe I can help you

this is such a traitor soft.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:52 am

unrelated tangent

Ausuka you understand that I'm town, correct?

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 10:55 am

Ausuka we need to talk when you're around

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 11:06 am

i think reactions will be very telling whether i'm right or wrong.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 14, 2019 3:49 pm

because i think they're both scum and we may not be able to win the

oh yeah we can just lynch Mastina in 2 way

so ofrhz lynch is optimal if we can get it

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 12:34 pm

mastina if you don't catch up today i'm voting you.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:43 pm

In post 6292, mastina wrote:
In post 6196, RadiantCowbells wrote:how opposed am I to just leaving my vote on ofrhz and seeing if mastina hammers
Considering that I'm like 90% going to vote Ausuka right now and only 9% ofhrz? Sure feel free to confirm me as town because yeah I'm not hammering there.

well if you were confirmed town because you didn't hammer ofrhz, clearly I am forced to follow you and lynch ausuka.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:49 pm

lolol

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:49 pm

you should have read ahead before you started posting, mastina.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:56 pm

scum have flipped. scum win condition is known, and it's not reaching parity.
i'll wait for an answer from xyzzy.

why

are you so sure that ofrhz is town?

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 2:59 pm

Hey Mastina if you force me to lynch you over ofrhz and you're town then the loss wasn't on me, it was on

YOU

.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:02 pm

you know full well that I'm a way better scumhunter than you.

i don't believe for a moment
for 1 fucking moment

that you hard defend ofrhz in this way as town, townreading me, when I'm telling you that he's scum.

Ignoring all the awful associatives between your slots all game, i don't think you stand in my way when you're acutely aware of how strong my town performance has been this year.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:03 pm

I

know

ofrhz is scum.

and if you're calling him town, I'm going to assume it's because you're his buddy.
and if it's not, I don't take the loss. you do.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:05 pm

and you know full well I've earned the right to say that I

know

someone is scum, and it's coming from a mechanically cleared me, no less.
Hell, you ought to be acutely aware of the fact that it's STRICTLY AGAINST YOUR WINCONDITION for you to be lynched over Ofrhz here.

we'll see what Xyzzy says.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:08 pm

nah, i don't know what the setup is but mastina/ofhrz are literally scum together or masons and if they were masons they would have claimed at start of day.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:12 pm

by win conditions a faction doesn't win until they are incapable of losing, and mastina would have known that. she's perfectly capable of making that bluff.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:13 pm

I've done all I'm doing to convince you, Mastina.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:15 pm

then this play really needs to be lynched until it stops. idc.
conftown with an exorbitantly strong towngame over the year is telling her the someone is confirmed scum and she's refusing to vote them.

Rc

Should I make a wall case on why ofrhz is scum

sure but I think that I'm right that it's both of them and any efforts you make to convince her will just result in her trying to argue why your case is incorrect.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:19 pm

In post 6326, mastina wrote:Not "you don't vote with me, I vote you".

when i'm conftown this should literally be all that matters.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:21 pm

it's rly not personal, from my side at least.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:22 pm

i really wish there was a way to hammertest ofrhz onto mastina to force her to acknowledge that he's town without giving ofrhz hammer on her.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:22 pm

err

ausuka onto mastina.

actually there is

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:22 pm

err

ausuka onto mastina.

actually there is

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:23 pm

but it requires ofrhz to vote mastina so.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:23 pm

to acknowledge she's town sorry I'm getting lost

Wait, Ofrhz, what's your preferred pronoun?

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:24 pm

For the record chennis

I was

SUPER FUCKING CLEAR

all game that Buj was the guy who was always the buddy and the others were just my best bet for the remainder based on associatives.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:25 pm

if shoshin wasn't in the game town would have lost, yes.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:26 pm

btw i already cased ofrhz and you just said "NO AUSUKA DID THIS MORE" even when it didn't apply at all, so.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:32 pm

VOTE: mastina

peace.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:32 pm

actually

UNVOTE:

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:33 pm

I'll wait until Ausuka's on and Ofrhz isn't.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:35 pm

its easy chennis

when ausuka doesn't hammer mastina

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:36 pm

yes, then she either has to out or vote ofrhz.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:44 pm

chennis i find it so, so hard to believe mastina<->ofrhz is just coincidence.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:48 pm

unless ofrhz is traitor and mastina flipped out about the implausibility of that because it was true.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:49 pm

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:51 pm

so like

knowing ofrhz is scum doesn't actually solve the correct play here

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:51 pm

yeah.

but that does require us to be able to lynch ofhrz

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:52 pm

ugh

i don't want to give ofrhz hammer on mastina i guess, regardless of my feelings about this situation.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:53 pm

yeah.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 3:56 pm

okay there's a bunch of us and there's only one of ofrhz

ausuka say something when you're around and hopefully one of us is here to hammertest you onto mastina

congrats on the win if you're scum.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:00 pm

i meant me who ether creature etc

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:02 pm

this is true

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:10 pm

it's not a bad title tbh

certainly better than Beat It

Not sure if better than Smooth Criminal

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 15, 2019 4:19 pm

i think it was intended as the latter as a joke about me metaphorically [blank] about how good i am in threads.

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:13 am

Need to both be online at the same time

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:35 am

Aaaasaagkd

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:35 am

VOTE: Mastina

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:36 am

Jgiksks

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:37 am

Taking vote off in 1 minute ofrhz is probably checkihn periodically

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:37 am

Only if she's here but yeah

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:38 am

UNVOTE:

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:42 am

VOTE: mastina

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:43 am

UNVOTE:

itt I don't have a heart attack

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:44 am

So, Mastina. Now what?

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:47 am

Sjdjlsmsmsna

Ok

I am really glad I wasn't wrong on a game this many people were reading

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:15 am

Oh yeah I have a question mastina

Why were you not okay to vote Ofrhz but okay with having Ausuka hammer tested?

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:51 am

Didn't do anything to stop it either

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:55 am

True. But she didn't even try.

Like if she'd rather lose than see Ofrhz lynched supposedly you would think she would deal with this situation differently

But yeah it's probably gonna end up being both of them

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 16, 2019 4:58 am

Yup. We'll see.

If she 180s on me now that Ausuka can't be scum we can hammer test me onto her and post that she's hard claiming scum with Ofrhz if she doesn't vote him.

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 16, 2019 5:37 am

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:03 am

Hey Chennis

Does Ofrhz remind you of someone?

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:10 am

What exactly have you done to be townread for, Ofrhz?

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:47 am

if i was playing solo i would have just voted mastina for her posting on the last page btw.

ausuka, vote ofrhz please.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:50 am

nm you

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:52 am

not hammering yet

we're considering lynching mastina over you right now.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:53 am

In post 6524, RadiantCowbells wrote:not hammering yet

we're considering lynching mastina over you right now.

just officially conftowning us

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:56 am

don't towncase yourself, i really don't think it'll change my read on either of you.

scumcase mastina

vice versa for mastina.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 5:58 am

gimme some flirting and i'll consider it

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:03 am

i'm like trying to math this out
because i do believe that ofrhz at the very least received the governor role as a fakeclaim given how early they came with it
i guess we'd be looking at, what, conditional governor odd-night roleblocker?
whereas mastina would likely be hated odd-night roleblocker

mastina role fits in better in a lot of ways
but ofrhz associatives are so so bad
but the governor role could just as easily either not exist or not be usable on scum

i still feel like the setup makes the most sense if both mastina and ofrhz are scum.

Has anybody told you recently that you have eyes one can get lost in

Awwwww
okay let's powerlynch Chennis

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:05 am

if i just say 'ok the setup isnt supposed to make sense' ofrhz is more scum by play
honestly i really just wanted to get hammertested so that there wasn't a risk of the game somehow turning around and us getting mislynched, i wasn't 100% sure where i wanted to go
and mastina's play on the last few pages, like, who starts raging at and trash talking a confirmed town for having been

right

?

i sincerely hope that both of them are scum.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:08 am

mastina never really gave a reason to townread me.
the "we're never both roleblocker and role" argument isn't strictly a mechanical argument as it is a it doesn't make sense with the setup and i stand by that
but i would have expected mastina to come in pointing that i could be multitasking whereas she just seemed to immediately take it being impossible at face value

but if mastina is scum she probably isn't hated in lylo so i don't think we win by lynching ofhrz

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:09 am

chennis how sure are you that it's ofrhz over mastina

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:11 am

maybe we should force who to actually play the game and place the final vote

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:13 am

i messaged who on discord with the situation, he should come back and read up at some point

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:15 am

it's so freeing to not have to force towntells every other post

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:16 am

i agree.

i dunno if mastina's recent posting is "scummy" or "holy shit i have no respect for this player if they're town doing this"

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:17 am

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:19 am

btw the paraphrased text of my message to who was

"hey you should come read the game because we're in mylo, I think that scum is ofrhz over mastina but I'm still checking the game"

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:19 am

if this is a loss i don't take responsibility for it. i didnt tell who to hammer now. there was a lot of rereading i still wanted to do.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:22 am

if it's both of them and this doesn't win the game I don't think it's our fault.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:47 am

what did i do?

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:48 am

sry we were scared that there was some sort of way for town to still win and were deciding optimal lynch and kills

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:48 am

sry we were scared that there was some sort of way for town to still win and were deciding optimal lynch and kills

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:51 am

nom i kinda get the impression you're resolved to call me scum and not try to read me and that makes me sad.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:55 am

In post 216, RadiantCowbells wrote:mfw i actually scumslip

dw i covered it up

pretend it didn't happen. don't respond to it. if you treat it like a meme the town will as well.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:55 am

In post 6048, RadiantCowbells wrote:also scumbag creature

need you to spew us town? nowhere to be seen
cleared in mylo? shows up in scum PT "HEY GUYS HOW CAN WE SOLVE THIS GAME"

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:56 am

that was a Real Thing That Happened btw

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:57 am

In post 179, Creature wrote:Hi, how can we solve this game?

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 6:59 am

In post 6621, xyzzy wrote:
In post 3116, xyzzy wrote:
so it turns out I thought I'd changed my ruleset to accommodate replacements being able to be undone, but I apparently never did that, which makes Pine continuing with his slot potentially in violation of that part of the site rules. I'm locking the thread until I hear back from a list mod re: the best way to handle the situation now. (technically I've already heard from a list mod, but PenguinPower is the one who brought this to my attention, and he's also in the game.)

edit: no action is needed beyond a slight change in my rules. carry on!
anyway this is the worst post I've made as a moderator ever. I've got a tendency to try to overcorrect whenever any potential issue comes up in a game -- I get nervous whenever a moderator just locks a thread and says "thread locked while I do a thing," so I tend to panic and write too much. I need to not do that! you just gotta write "thread locked while I do a thing."

yeah

we had pp fakeclaim the guilty because this post basically confirmed him as scum and the only way i could think of to justify him still being town is town sitting on a guilty looking at rxns

it was fine though

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:00 am

don't be so quick to assert that you would do better from the safety of your spoiled dead PT with no actual experience reading me

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:11 am

Yeah, we weren't just not hammering for lulz. I wanted to try to work through every mechanical path to a loss. Supersaints, vengefuls, 3p, etc.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:13 am

there's really no point placing votes in lylo until you know who you're lynching for that reason, kinda.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:13 am

or mylo obv

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:16 am

i saw the game as already essentially won when we pushed the idea that we couldn't simultaneously be the hydra recruiter and the roleblocker.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:21 am

notably everyone in mylo bought that reasoning except ofrhz which was why ofrhz was the best person to push on
i don't think that, from the point that we convinced the game that that was likely, anything else really mattered
Jingle was talking in dead thread about trying to prevent us from losing if PP flipped but he was only considering that during the day based on Roleblocker!PP

Yeah that worked waaaaayyyy better than I was expecting it to.

i think that we had more chance of losing if we had successfully gotten PP flipped town by the cop than by doing what we did

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:21 am

notably everyone in mylo bought that reasoning except ofrhz which was why ofrhz was the best person to push on
i don't think that, from the point that we convinced the game that that was likely, anything else really mattered
Jingle was talking in dead thread about trying to prevent us from losing if PP flipped but he was only considering that during the day based on Roleblocker!PP

Yeah that worked waaaaayyyy better than I was expecting it to.

i think that we had more chance of losing if we had successfully gotten PP flipped town by the cop than by doing what we did

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:27 am

In post 156, nomnomnom wrote:though one time he did it as town and once as scum so like the guy's pretty hard to play with when he starts thinking you're scum because you vote him every single time and OMGUSes you hardcore :/

think about this and you'll figure out what the problem really is

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 18, 2019 7:28 am

In post 6671, RadiantCowbells wrote:because you vote him every single time

hint