Magical Girls UPick - Heart of Shadow (Game Over)

Titus · Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:39 pm

LLD, do not take that as you played a bad scum game. I was just being open about my flaws.

If I was tougher, I might have shot you n1 but I doubt it.

I almost blocked LLD before the mason claim. :/

Titus · Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:39 pm

*shot you n2

Titus · Mon Sep 30, 2019 5:48 pm

Yeah I didn't have the energy to pull a Titus.

I figured LLD didn't die bc Croag.

Titus · Mon Sep 30, 2019 6:48 pm

In post 5320, RadiantCowbells wrote:titus do you remember when you were all 'yeah LLD is my base this game instead of you because i trust her more'

Yeah, and she was more helpful than you.

I pushed LLD early alone and cracked her. Katsuki bailed her out.
LLD turned my focus onto RCE.

If I had emotional support from you, maybe I pursue it.

I cannot and will not pursue a Mason claim alone.

Titus · Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:54 am

RC, there were signs of LLD's mason being fake.
I saw them.

The two biggest ones were...1) The early null read of Katsuki by LLD and saying she could sort her later.
2) The abnormal as fuck voting pattern, which suggested someone familiar with how I operate was calling the shots.

Looking at dead chat, others felt the mason claim was fake.

Yet, you had to be in charge and stifle all discussion. You railroaded a fair amount of the game.

When a toxic leader emerges, people don't rebel to his face but in other ways. You literally failed to notice the extreme amount of effort I put in to work with you, so I gave up. Scum can and will capitalize on that. If you continue to demand to be leader, you need to get the best out of people.

You were just as helpful as Katsuki. Without you being you, maybe we second guess it.

Titus · Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:55 am

*calling the shots regarding VCA, not in the game

Titus · Tue Oct 01, 2019 4:02 am

Do you think RC's play was good? That RC randomly fighting with town and throwing his weight around helped?

What do you think is fair to him? What I told RC might not have been what he'd like to hear, but I think he needed it.

Titus · Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:06 am

In post 5335, Dannflor wrote:Randomly fighting town is an odd criticism given every player has probably fought town in about every game. Even despite the mistakes this game, RC’s reads were better than most and I don’t think it’s fair to blame him for not knowing the mason claim was fake.

That's an absolute fiction.

Gameplay shot CW.
Tana wanted LLD alone. RC conditioned that on me being scum as well.
RC violently tunneled SS long after it was productive.
He engaged in a pissing match with me when I tried basic scumhunting because it wasn't his mislynch du jour.
He pushed many town players to wagon status by stifling dissent.
He didn't want the RCE wagon that was deep hammerred.

By the time he lynched HH, town was so demotivated we just did what he said, which is how you got quicklynched.

Titus · Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:09 am

In post 5337, Dannflor wrote:If you did what he said I wouldn’t have been quick lynched?

RC was the one pushing your lynch soooo

Titus · Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:08 am

In post 5357, RadiantCowbells wrote:is it not enough for you that you don't enjoy playing with me? why do you have to lie to make me out to be this demon who is hurting town wincon and playing against my wincondition
can't you just say 'well i do not enjoy playing with RCs dictatorial style and it makes the game less fun with me and I will choose to avoid him on that basis'
as opposed to RC is playing against his wincondition!, or RC is responsible for this loss!, or RC is responsible for the mislynches of people he hard townread!, or RC is setting out to ruin the game for people!

RC, by arguing the accuracy of your reads justifies your play misses the point. While I disagree with some things (see pg 131), convincing you your reads suck doesn't help you learn anything.

Feelings are related to results. Town players perform better when supported. Your dictorial style negatively impacted both SS and myself who Tana told you were town. It stopped the LLD guilty from being exposed. It stopped me from getting underneath LLD's claim. It stopped SS's ability to contribute.

The more you dictate, the more your reads must be perfect. There are players who read not based on claim and based on feelings. This is just as valuable in mafia. When this gets silenced, scum can win. A feelings based player catches LLD fast.

Your insistence that certain players deserve more than others will ALWAYS bite you. Eventually, you'll reach the point where you're better than everyone else. No one will respect your process until you respect theirs.

Titus · Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:10 am

Your actions relate to your ego which makes the game easier for emotionally savvy scum.

Titus · Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:29 am

RC, you can either get defensive and keep making the same mistakes or you can get real and learn to support all skillsets. I am trying to prevent you from going down my road.

Wisdom miss you. I'm trying to grow here as a player. Would love to see you around.

Titus · Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:32 am

In post 5366, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:No amount of feeling based player was going to win this game for you.

Disagree but we needed a team. A team that could never form.

That doesn't mean we would win. But to beat you, it needs more than yelling.

Titus · Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:43 am

No. RC it doesn't. Good luck. Maybe someday you'll get my point. Until then, I hope to draw scum in your games.

Titus · Tue Oct 01, 2019 7:44 am

In post 5375, Krazy wrote:There's nothing you can say to RC in a public space that will make him reconsider an iota of how he plays. All you're doing is providing him with fodder the next time he's scum to come up with excuses why he doesn't want to play or reasons when he's town to mislynch you. In his own mind his play will be flawless. Here he has the out of kats.has he mislynched masons before because he scumread them? Of course, but this time he didn't scumread them so its kats fault he was duped by lld. And as usual since he took every position on every player at some point throughout the game he can always point to the thirty seconds where he was right. It doesn't matter how many correct reads he drowned out or how many players tuned out because of his manipulative ate. There's really no point to this argument, rc is set in his ways and you can either take them or leave them.

+1 but I hope he changes.

Titus · Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:16 am

In post 5379, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:Finally, I really wish people like Krazy, Varsoon etc. (whom I both adore btw) would try to get to know RC personally before they egregiously unfairly demonize him. Anyone who does, would know sooner or later what an awesome person he is. Yes, I’m still extremely angry and hurt at what RC did to me in this game but he in no way deserves to be condemned at a personal level. RC is still one of the best people I’ve met anywhere and while I’m still currently struggling, I’m proud to call him my friend.

I don't think it's fair to say Krazy is demonizing RC. RC isn't being condemned publicly on a personal level.

Titus · Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:41 am

@Nancy, I have. I think RC is a great person. His need to validation and being correct gets in the way of him being a better mafia player. Eventually, it will hinder him IRL too.

Revolting is used in a group project sense, when one person is railroading and in charge.

RC gets real defensive when his ego is involved. You and I know this.

Titus · Tue Oct 01, 2019 8:54 am

In post 5389, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 5387, Titus wrote:@Nancy, I have. I think RC is a great person. His need to validation and being correct gets in the way of him being a better mafia player. Eventually, it will hinder him IRL too.

Revolting is used in a group project sense, when one person is railroading and in charge.

RC gets real defensive when his ego is involved. You and I know this.
It does frustrate me extremely that he still isn’t giving Sakura’s and others’ correct read on us the respect they deserve and is still clinging to the idiocy that we were somehow “less town” than everyone other than LLD.

But let’s be fair, “revolting” is kind of over the top here. I can come up with true examples of revolting play, if you’re interested, none of which involves anyone on this playerlist.

Wrong meaning of revolting.

I'm using revolt in the overthrow a dictator sense, not the synonym of bad.

Titus · Tue Oct 01, 2019 1:21 pm

Your comment on masons and roleblocker helped.

Titus · Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:30 pm

@Katsuki, I love your posting.

Tbh, I faked masons only once but I'm sympathetic. My gut said something was off with LLD. To own up to things is pretty cool. Every failsafe you had failed in setup and town players.

Titus · Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:24 pm

In post 5432, popsofctown wrote:What really counts is posting my magical girl thank you Titus for protecting me from janitor lld

Welcome. Your vigging was role related only at the end. I do hope you see that.

Titus · Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:24 pm

In post 5433, Dannflor wrote:the real lesson were the friends we made along the way

like faerie chess piece popsofctown

Good friends are good

Titus · Tue Oct 01, 2019 3:25 pm

Can't tell if serious

Titus · Fri Oct 04, 2019 3:18 am

Gnar is the best magical boy.