Perfect Masquerade [Game Over]

[Gentleman 5]

Assuming L5/G8 is T-T. Which team benefits them surviving longer?

Town just needs the numbers.
Scum needs their distracting.

Ignoring how yall feel about L5, G8 has continued to show apathy towards this game, has refused to give reads in thread and in PT as far as we know currently.

L5 has interactions that can be looked at again with a flip (pretty much anything before when she wanted to replace out). There are some stuff that pertain to G3, L2, and L8 off the top of my head. Her flip gives us valuable information we can use towards a lynch.

Meanwhile G8’s flip would give us an idea of why he picked L5 over 1 and 2. At the worst, putting him at L-3 or L-2 would light a fire under his ass and out those reads he refuses to tell anyone about.

The longer we keep them, the tougher it will be to remove them depending on if we hit scum.

[Gentleman 5]

G5 your posting this game has just been bad take after bad take after bad take and it makes me want to lynch you regardless of my read on you and I'm trying to rein that in but it's hard.

Spoiler: G6’s Main

Or maybe Vegeta. That quote could be from either of them

[Gentleman 5]

Anyone getting the new Pokemon game? I'm getting Shield.

I know someone who booked time off work just to play the game.

I would too but I'm going to an anime convention that day.

Sword and Shield look like they are gonna suck.

I want a switch for 3 houses.

[Gentleman 5]

1024 is a joke.

Can you reclarify what your question to 1054 is?

[Gentleman 5]

G5 your posting this game has just been bad take after bad take after bad take and it makes me want to lynch you regardless of my read on you and I'm trying to rein that in but it's hard.

Spoiler: G6’s Main

Or maybe Vegeta. That quote could be from either of them

What’s my main?

Spoiler: L5’s Main

[Gentleman 5]

Can we get an F in chat for G1 who looks to be rereading the entire game.

[Gentleman 5]

Spoiler: G8’s Main

Spoiler: L3’s Main

Spoiler: L1’s Main

Spoiler: G2’s Replacement Main

Spoiler: OG G2’s Main

[REDACTED]

[Gentleman 5]

Spoiler: G5’s Main

[Gentleman 5]

The purpose of this selective recall, in my opinion, is to generate a plausible deniability to ignore anything at will in the future.

I don’t ignore stuff.
Point of why I ask about questions or concerns.

There were questions you ignored.

I expect G1 to find them soon

[Gentleman 5]

G2 got replaced?
Aw that sucks.
Why did you change your PFP G5?

It was Anime before.

This should have been so obvious that Im not even going to give you a sarcastic answer

[Gentleman 5]

If I had to make a positive comment t about G1's posts I would say that if he were scum his buddies would probably be yelling at him to do literally anything other than what he is currently doing, yet he is still doing it.

G1:

theres a post somewhere down the line where I ask G6 why hes been ignoring me. Thats when the game ended. Save yourself the time and dont read past it.

[Gentleman 5]

You doubt that Lady 5 of all people in this game has trouble remembering something?

I feel like I wouldn't be surprised if she forgot her phone number.

To me it seems like she has selective recall. She seems to pick and choose what to remember, and it seems like is consistently choosing to forget rather important things.

She was playing the game, got too behind when the game started getting too fast, requested to replace out and have someone who shared her reads (specifically G3 is locktown) and love of pokemans. When it became obvious the person she wanted to replace in for her was allegedly in this game, she said fuck it and kept playing.

The problem is she kept bringing up replacing out and personally asking someone to take her spot, which is frowned on or against the rules. So people really stopped giving a shit about her.

Shes really just air at this point

[Gentleman 5]

Spoiler: L4's Main

Spoiler: G4's Main

Thats all I got.

Also I don't understand equating Lady 3 to Ariana Grande's God is a Woman?

Spoiler:

BECAUSE SHE IS A GOD AT MAFIA!

Actually IDK.

[Gentleman 5]

Reasoning for vote plz

[Gentleman 5]

Reasoning for vote plz

Do I need one?

Yes?

Since both you and L9 seem to be blindly voting imo.

[Gentleman 5]

L8 you ever play 3 houses? Any good?

[Gentleman 5]

G2 got replaced?
Aw that sucks.
Why did you change your PFP G5?

It was Anime before.

This should have been so obvious that Im not even going to give you a sarcastic answer

I think you main slipped fyi.

Im FakeGod, ama

[Gentleman 5]

L8 you ever play 3 houses? Any good?

Notice me senpai

[Gentleman 5]

G6 do you have any opinion on what L4 said about G1?

[Gentleman 5]

If I had to make a positive comment t about G1's posts I would say that if he were scum his buddies would probably be yelling at him to do literally anything other than what he is currently doing, yet he is still doing it.

[Gentleman 5]

Mastin

Shudders

[Gentleman 5]

VOTE: Gentleman 6

What the fuck....

[Gentleman 5]

I want you or me today, and if I don't get lynched and you flip town, I want Lady 3 to leave.

WAIT WHAT THE FUCK?

[Gentleman 5]

I think scum want to aim to lose no scum before intermission

Brilliant deduction, Watson.

In all seriousness, my vote is tied to L4, as Im pretty sure right now shes not voting either G1 or G4 (I assume)

In my opinion, I COULD vote G1 i guess, but its not a strong read, Im sure as hell not voting G6 on the basis that G6 is scum, but I’d go for it to get L8.

FAKEGOD: Can you confirm or deny G8 is currently playing this game, is prodded, or is replaced.

[Gentleman 5]

You played the first half of day 1 solidly enough to convince people to trust you and then from there somehow your process just completely dissolved, your reads went to crap and you're trying to act like you don't trust anyone.

This is not wrong.

I dont think hes acting though, I think he is paranoid. This is town.

P-Edit slow down fuck

[Gentleman 5]

My pair is literally leaving sometime second dance. I don't understand why anyone would push G6 right now.

No shit.

They should push L8 instead, atleast that has a chance of being a legit case.

[Gentleman 5]

G4 no one is going to lynch G6 first.

Try again and find another pair

[Gentleman 5]

I'm not saying that he doesn't trust anyone

I'm saying he's acting like he doesn't trust anyone

But, uh, if he is town who doesn't trust anyone, then he would act like he doesn't trust anyone...

yes

he would

but if he's scum who doesn't trust anyone

he would

act

like he doesn't trust anyone

and i'm not accusing him of the former

i think it's pretty obvious there are people in this game he trusts

Hes not acting, hes honestly paranoid.

If anything hes acting like he trusts people.

[Gentleman 5]

Brilliant deduction, Watson.

I mean, I disagree with it. It's not a foregone conclusion.

I mean unless G8/L5 is scum I wouldnt want any scum to die if I was scum

[Gentleman 5]

I'll push Lady 8 if that makes you happier, Gentleman 5?

I mean you have a better chance of getting G6 lynched that way.

G6 is pretty obvtown at this point. L8 not so much.

[Gentleman 5]

I'll push Lady 8 if that makes you happier, Gentleman 5?

aka

he's fine with anyone flipping except g1

who when they flip scum makes him look really bad

I mean I do see the chainsaw. I really do.

[Gentleman 5]

I could actually go for a Misty flip though.

G6 consider my vote for G1 at this time, but you gotta talk the lady into it.

[Gentleman 5]

Eh. I honestly don't care at this point. I have put more time and energy per real life day into this game than I have in any other game of mafia. And that's more than 7 years of mafia. I feel so solid on this read right now.

Unfortunately playing mafia forever doesnt equate to accurate reads.

[Gentleman 5]

The joke is funny, because calling what I'm doing a chainsaw defense and legitimately believing it is like trying to lynch firebringer when he opens with "I rolled scum guys" in the RVS stage of a game.

With talk of the great mastina and now this, Im really having ptsd

[Gentleman 5]

L5 is the only person who's put an ounce of thought into what will happen after I pair.

Everyone else refuses to do it and is just saying "make a decision already" without telling me how they will respond to what decision I make, as though I don't deserve to know that in order to factor it into my decision.

What you talk about here and in your other posts on the same page tell me L5 seemed like a great match for you. So why would you not pick her? Actually, I can figure that out myself: you didn’t think that would reflect well on you. Well maybe it would not have, but grandstanding about the situation reflects worse than that would, that I can be sure of.

(if he pairs with L5, hes getting speedlynched tomorrow)

Orly?

L5 is the only person who's put an ounce of thought into what will happen after I pair.

Everyone else refuses to do it and is just saying "make a decision already" without telling me how they will respond to what decision I make, as though I don't deserve to know that in order to factor it into my decision.

Which, btw, is something I know L5 won't do.

I am concerned that G3 seems extra concerned about how he’s being read and wants to gauge how his potential partner is being read too

This is, or should be, the entire point of pairing. Townreads with townreads, nulls with nulls, scumreads with scumreads, then eliminate them generally from the bottom up.

But there's no consensus on me. And nobody is endeavoring to form one. They're trying to use my pair to determine their read on me, which is backwards.

Then ask L5??????????

This is stalling, you know it, I know it. Theres over 50 pages of information, you should have some semblence of who to pick at this point.

I think there is a reason why you havent picked L5.

Is it because you dont townread her, or because you both are scum?

G5 being so matched with me in how we view this makes me feel just that much better about my beliefs. I recall G6 throwing some hate his way as well, so I definitely get the sense the mafia at this point are just {G3, L5, G6}.

Careful G1, you just scumclaimed to G3 and L2

[Gentleman 5]

Or, you know, make stupid guesses and ad hoc modifications to support your preconception. Your choice.

Chill hes obviously rereading, despite what he says

[Gentleman 5]

Eh. I honestly don't care at this point. I have put more time and energy per real life day into this game than I have in any other game of mafia. And that's more than 7 years of mafia. I feel so solid on this read right now.

Unfortunately playing mafia forever doesnt equate to accurate reads.

Time and energy, on the other hand, does.

And I wasn't saying I felt solid because of my time in mafia, I was saying it because of time and energy, hence sentence structure.

Whats really sad is I honestly thought you and G6 were going to reveal some damning information during the dance and town autowins.

We never got your reads

[Gentleman 5]

G5 being so matched with me in how we view this makes me feel just that much better about my beliefs. I recall G6 throwing some hate his way as well, so I definitely get the sense the mafia at this point are just {G3, L5, G6}.

notice that

scum are both pushing the agenda that i'm scum all of a sudden

because they realize there is no path to endgame without killing me via lynch

Btw, that quote says G5, but I did not say that.

[Gentleman 5]

Ignoring L8, who else is against you G1?

[Gentleman 5]

I followed Gentleman 6's process all the way through the first half of the game. Unfortunately, he stopped having one at a specific point (conveniently the point at which things were going really well for town) and then started hammering wildly at Gentleman 5 for barely any reason whatsoever. He continues to cause chaos into the beginning of the dance, at which point he all of a sudden drops his scum read on Gentleman 5 and then tries to oppose Gentleman 8 and Lady 5 just

barely

enough in order to let them still get lynched, but get town points for when they do. When they fail to get lynched, he tosses teasers out to see if Gentleman 8 and Lady 5 are still up for a lynch, but pretty much gives up, instead going for the second lynch-baitiest pair in the game - Gentleman 1, the man who's always behind.

There all of a sudden isn't any thought or depth to his reads for some reason, they're opportunistic and they grab at every town point he can get. He refuses to actually share where his reads are at or if there is any sort of path to victory, and yet he confidently proclaims he's presented people with one. He's living off of the sustained belief that he's lock town, established in your minds since early day 1, and he will continue to take advantage of this until he wins.

This is all correct. But theres a reason he can do it.

I think most of the players are aware of who he is, and his suicide gambit makes him obvtown I think?

But yes, G6 went off the deep end last weekend when I asked him why he was ignoring me. Im not sure what caused this to happen. Good question to ask postgame

[Gentleman 5]

I want you or me today, and if I don't get lynched and you flip town, I want Lady 3 to leave.

Ok you are aware that we just did that earlier

P-Edit: It was for townpoints, thats the point of the gambit

[Gentleman 5]

Except you can just leave. Why would you say "I want lady 3 to leave" unless you're relying on her refusing to leave when the time comes to it?

I'm going to leave if you flip town. But me saying I'm going to leave doesn't hold me accountable in the slightest.

Me saying I want Lady 3 to leave does.

WHY ARE WE GOING IN FUCKING CIRCLES?

[Gentleman 5]

G6, if you are town, I don’t see scum killing you ever. I think you have demonstrated wild thought processes that make you an asset to them. Your best course of action if you are town is to take a step back and stop trying to control everything, because at this point I think you are bringing this game down.

LOL WTF

[Gentleman 5]

I want you or me today, and if I don't get lynched and you flip town, I want Lady 3 to leave.

Ok you are aware that we just did that earlier

P-Edit: It was for townpoints, thats the point of the gambit

Ok sure, but I've been thinking about mine for several IRL days now, probably close to a week. And I'm serious about mine.

And he's serious about mine.

Also yeah you're right in that it was a gambit, but the fact that he was trying to grab extra town points doesn't ring alarm bells in your head? Why not just do it for real.

Ive stopped questioning the dude.

[Gentleman 5]

Im honestly thinking of leaving.

Im tired of going in circles.

I just dont know if our flips do anything to benefit town.

[Gentleman 5]

G6, I assume you’ve been here the whole game.

G4 and his partner have been joined at the hip for 99% of the game even at the beginning. What do you think of that?

[Gentleman 5]

Fuck it, L4 can whine about it later.

VOTE: G4/L3

[Gentleman 5]

Ok real talk.

1) G4 hasnt given us a full set of reads that he said he was going to bring up at the dance.
2) OG G4 and New G4 both intended to getting L3, and both asked very early of playing.

[Gentleman 5]

FG what happens at deadline if we are still >12

[Gentleman 5]

OMFG, your both Town.
Grab each other’s socks, stick it in your mouth and shake each other’s hands.

OMFG FUCK YOU FUCK YOU ALL

WE HAD THIS SAME EXACT CONVO EARLIER.

[Gentleman 5]

G6: G5 is conf scum.
G5: No, your partner is scum.
G6: G5 is conf scum.
*Argues for many pages*
L5: Youre both town.

*YEARS LATER*

G6: G4 is confscum
G4: NoU
G6: G4 is confscum
*Argues for many pages*
L5: Youre both town.

[Gentleman 5]

I really do not want to predicate actual gameplay on who I think someone is but I think I might. G6’s probable identity makes me have a very strong feeling that he is town, despite his grip job the game being something that will likely kill it for town.

^Why G6 isnt getting lynched this game

[Gentleman 5]

I really do not want to predicate actual gameplay on who I think someone is but I think I might. G6’s probable identity makes me have a very strong feeling that he is town, despite his grip job the game being something that will likely kill it for town.

This is how we play.
Best mafia Player in World replaces G8 slot.
G8 Slot is Town.
We all follow G8.
Town swims.

Idk how to swim

[Gentleman 5]

ok mathdino

Speaking of fossils...

[Gentleman 5]

G6: G5 is conf scum.
G5: No, your partner is scum.
G6: G5 is conf scum.
*Argues for many pages*
L5: Youre both town.

*YEARS LATER*

G6: G4 is confscum
G4: NoU
G6: G4 is confscum
*Argues for many pages*
L5: Youre both town.

I called him scum first.

I called L8 scum first. Point still stands

[Gentleman 5]

Do it.

[Gentleman 5]

G5 please point out which post you believe should be my cutoff point directly because at this point I think I am well grounded in what has and is happening but I still want to attempt my due diligence. I started reading and I’m not going to stop until I’m certain the job has been done right.

Theres a post where I ask G6 to explain why hes ignoring me.

Right around then is where he blows a gasket. Stop there.

[Gentleman 5]

I wanna see a Misty Flip more than G4 honestly

[Gentleman 5]

Why does L3's alignment have anything to do with it?

He thinks its S-S

[Gentleman 5]

I hate the way that Lady 5 is playing regardless of their alignment.

Yo can you talk to me.

How do you currently feel about your pairing?

At the time, did you believe you were making a town/town pair?

G1 here

[Gentleman 5]

G4 if youre town you should leave,

I think theres a pretty good chance theres scum in L3/L8

HERE WE GO

[Gentleman 5]

VOTE: G8/L5

[Gentleman 5]

Im ready for an L8 flip

[Gentleman 5]

Actually I wanna do L5 first, have mafia get rid of G3/L6, then G6 leaves

[Gentleman 5]

Oh