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i'm pretty sure an event like that sticks in your head for next time
but is that allignment indicative? could easily do that as eitherRawr!
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that's the problem i have with these 'crumbs'
i'm sure if i dig into my iso i can probably find 'crumbs' for any range of PR's with some inspirational effortRawr!
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actual title of the gameIn post 2203, Datisi wrote:why the fuck did nobody claim trackerRawr!
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i talked about your remark here was wellIn post 2125, Iconeum wrote:
like, one of the claims isIn post 2100, Iconeum wrote:backup tracker
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someone in here is lying because i don't believe there's gonna be 4 town PR in a 9 p gameguaranteedto be lying
there's confscum in (emps/luca)Rawr!
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Luca: 'its emp and icon'
Luca: 'icon killed in the 2 players he thinks were the tracker'
also Luca: 'scum emps roleblocked datisi'Rawr!
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that gives town 2 confirmed towns on D2 with a little luckIn post 2227, Luca Blight wrote:Yes I was informed Aldu was the town back up Tracker.
wtfRawr!
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2 conftown : the FN and the backup trackerIn post 2230, Datisi wrote:well, not necessarily, nothing there proving Luca's Town.
pedit: there's at least one liar there fypov lmao
also, supposedlyRawr!
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i've thought about it
but that's like
both of them faking, 1 serious 1 easier and hoping to take one of them into 3p lylo
and also if they are both fake that leaves town with what
a FN
and a backup tracker
that's only possible vs like 2 goons?Rawr!
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it's possible, because if there are 2 goons they *know* town is gonna be limited in power, and they might try this
but it's at the very limits of being possible i thinkRawr!
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i'm looking at it from a different perspectiveIn post 2237, Datisi wrote:If we can collectively agree that one scum claims PR and one claims VT, then this game becomes much easier. But I'm not willing to bet the game on that.
i think i can assume both scum don't claim vtRawr!
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if it's luca/emps then they decided 1 claims a pr that fits, and the other something powerfull
luca hard busses the claimed doc, gets all the credit, coasts to 3p lylo and wins the game from there
it's not impossible but why doc over tracker
i mean it's such an unlikely claim that i have a hard time believing it comes from scumRawr!
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god i hope this is true because of the potential memes aloneIn post 2240, Datisi wrote:Luca/emps. They're undecided between Icon and alimdia being the Tracker. They bet on alimdia, they miss.
Luca's ready to cc Icon's Tracker claim. Icon claims VT. ohshit.jpg Dat's the Tracker plan B claim some informed shit.
Dats claims VT.
Pedit: i mean from both our povs scum don't both claim VTRawr!
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there's a couple good posts in Luca ISO where he is warming up to a scumread on me
combined with how he had emps very low on his readlist during most of the game but when i talked about emps being a bad lynch he agreed there
not enough time right now to fully case this but it's there and i can do it after the weekendRawr!
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The entirety of this post is Bad with a capital B. It's based on speculation, setup speculation and WIFOM.In post 2270, Luca Blight wrote:There is confirmed one scum in me and emps, and confirmed one scum in Icon Datisi.
Me and emps cannot be partners, because for that to happen the game would only contain: friendly neighbour and a useless back-up Tracker. Not only useless but actually detrimental to town, as there would be nothing to back up his claim. This situation is impossible: me and emps are therefore not partners, but one of us is scum, because otherwise Town is too powerful.
It’s also basically confirmed me and Datisi are not partners as well, given we were both last to claim and neither of us hesitated in claiming or claimed Tracker. So the only slight possibility of me being scum here is if I’m scum with Icon, but there still stands the point that Aldu’s power is anti-Town without my PR.
Fun fact: Datisi coasted the last game we played in with her as scum by claiming her actual role as scum.In post 2280, Wickedestjr wrote:I'm considering the possibility that Luca is an Informed Mafia Goon. Perhaps he is telling the truth about everything except for his alignment. From a setup standpoint, it would explain a lot:- It gives purpose to Aldu's role.
- Aldu's role serves as a weird distraction for both town and scum, so it's fair.
- Scum are informed about a town-aligned power role, but it's a weak power role and they only find out on day 2 so it's not a mega game changer for them.
- The setup wouldn't have three confirmable players. It could conceivably just be a FN, named townie, and doctor which doesn't seem over powered.
- It explains how Luca-scum could claim so quickly.
Oh I wasn't relaxed one bit by the thought of potential Scum!Datisi in this gameIn post 2379, Luca Blight wrote:I wasn’t expecting you to attack Icon during his V/LA, it was more the interaction before his V/la where you both seemed unusually relaxed despite knowing the other was very likely to be scum. I’m about to sleep so will elaborate on this tomorrow.Rawr!
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Luca's been setting up a potential lynch on me from the previous day after townreading me for the rest of the game
then he comes into today with a hard scumread on me, and it wasn't until later in this dayphase he started considering scum!datisi but only AFTER he saw there was a potential mislynch there
so it's luca/emps most likely
does that leave town weak? yes
is that unbalanced? not if there's 2 goons
so i don't wanna read anything even related to 'this isn't POSSIBLE because setup'
i'm casing what i'm writing in this post right nowRawr!
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what is this evenIn post 2429, Datisi wrote:
icon stop wasting your time on Luca/emps case and vote me alreadyIn post 2341, Datisi wrote:Here goes. VOTE: Iconeum
Both Luca/emps have to be posting at the relatively same time. No use just one posting lolRawr!
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There's no such thing as confirmed not partners. There just isn't. THAT is the misrep here.In post 2431, Luca Blight wrote:Before you waste time on your case, you should probably know that emps and I are confirmed not partners, because Datisi voted you.
And I townread you up until the mass-claim was finished, please don't misrep me.
And also, i said I was in the process of casing what I said. You can judge yourself when I'm done with thatRawr!
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The entire assumption of emps/luca not being scum is that they would ALWAYS attempt a double-vote quickhammer while KNOWING datisi is here?
That's just bad mkay
why would they risk everything on a technical manouver when there's other options available to themRawr!
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ur either scum trying to look like town baiting, or ur town actually baitingIn post 2435, Datisi wrote:Icon, my vote's been sitting on you for longer than 24 hours. But you know what, sure, go ahead. Just what we need. More page inflation.
if the first, then town is gonna be clever enough not to risk an L-1 yet
if the second, then scum isn't gonna be stoopid enough to hammer and risk their entire game being compromised on things like timingRawr!
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why are you trying to force me into a 1v1 with you?In post 2439, Datisi wrote:I have voted you 30 goddamn hours ago. I have not been online constantly refreshing for those entire 30 hours. They haven't even attempted to try to organize a quickhammer.
Like... I'm genuinely unsure of what to say here. I was getting ready for a bloody 1v1. What is this?Rawr!
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i'm confirmed scum to you because of wrong assumptions on your partIn post 2442, Datisi wrote:Because you're kinda confirmed scum fmpov? As I am from yours? You said yourself at the beginning of Friday. Like...?
Plus you're not even worried, you didn't even try to get me to unvote?Rawr!
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how do you know they haven't tried it? did it pass your mind that they maybe just haven't been online together while you weren't here?In post 2444, Datisi wrote:Eh, for posterity's sake, you ever explained why that one post made you think Luca was the Tracker?
pedit: what wrong assumptions? That scum will try to at least organize a qh when they have the chance?
that a scumteam of luca/emps might opt to play the game out, instead of going for a timing victory which is inherently more riskier as it can literally blow the game up for them?Rawr!
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and you are now saying i'm conf!scum to you
in a world where i leave a towncore of datisi/luca and a conftown of wicked ALL alive to MYLO
knowing i had a tracker read on Luca
yeah makes a ton of senseRawr!
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because of how he posted that made me feel he had smt up his sleeveIn post 2444, Datisi wrote:you ever explained why that one post made you think Luca was the Tracker?Rawr!
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it's you or emps, and i don't even need to know which one it is because emps claimed doc
doc!emps is gonna protect wicked and die, giving town the winning lynch in you tomorrow
or emps is scum and has put himself in a corner with no way out:
can't kill wicked because he is outed scum
needs to kill in datisi/icon
needs to explain why scum let the doc alive
really small wifom chance, but Luca lynch wins the game for town in most of the cases hereRawr!
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luca thought i was the tracker, but puts me in the middle of the pack for massclaim BEFORE himself and datisi
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In post 1353, Luca Blight wrote:I have a hard TR on Icon.
Menalque I’m much less sure on but still leaning Town. I worry I could be wrong about either him or Pops.In post 1401, Luca Blight wrote:1304, 1305: I like Icon's Aldu/Menalque theory here, I think it shows a Townie thought-process.In post 1930, Luca Blight wrote:I get your point about Icon and can feel myself being slowly talked round to suspecting him, but it isn't that strong and I still feel you're more likely to flip scum than he is.
Icon's play resembles what I'd expect from previous experience with him, although he is generally less townie here than in those games. The reason I TR him is due to: Confronting Menalque and defending Wimpy upon entering the thread, pushing Aldu for a claim and then linking Menalque and Aldu as partners following the lack of hammer. These I consider townie thought processes and are consistent from what I'd expect from Town!Icon.
I'm not just going to lynch my stronger TR because he made a few awkward looking posts.
This is the progression from Luca to justify an Icon vote todayIn post 1935, Luca Blight wrote:There are reasons why I'd like to leave Icon until Tomorrow. I don't know for sure he's Town, but right now I think he is.
I'm willing to consider Alim if you want to talk about that slot instead.Rawr!
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i'm saying it feels like you were already setting up your justification of voting me today, on the previous day as I layed out with quotes.In post 2459, Luca Blight wrote:Icon is making out I shouldn't be suspicious of him during LYLO because I TR him all game, which is ridiculous.
I TR Datisi even more than you and I'm suspicious of her too.Rawr!
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come on man that's just not trueIn post 2459, Luca Blight wrote:Icon is making out I shouldn't be suspicious of him during LYLO because I TR him all game, which is ridiculous.Rawr!
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you were 'reasonably' sure about me being tracker up until my actual claim, yes?In post 2455, Luca Blight wrote:1. That wasn't necessarily my order of reads (otherwise I would have been above Datisi). It was to reach a consensus.
2. After the Alim kill I was less sure of my TR on you because I remembered your comment from D2.Rawr!
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In post 2451, Iconeum wrote:it's you or emps, and i don't even need to know which one it is because emps claimed docRawr!
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the point being that if we lynch correctly outside of emps, this game is solvedIn post 2472, Datisi wrote:you still haven't answered, what was the point of laying ot the strategies for scum in 2451?
and no i didn't take into account the option of a no-kill at that timeRawr!
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If i'm wrong about Luca then the *actual* reason for there not being a coordinated hammer on me is easy
Dats is scum baiting a town L-1 to have scumpartner hammerRawr!
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argh ur right, the game is solvedIn post 2479, Datisi wrote:but it isn't, even if we assume kills are compulsory and emps dies, Icon/Dats is still not solvedfor mein that caseRawr!
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In post 2482, Datisi wrote:pedit: lmao the worst of all i know town!icon is bad with mechanics so this is legit NAI from youRawr!
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if i'm wrong on Luca means exactly thatIn post 2482, Datisi wrote:wdym if you're wrong on Luca? Isn't Luca/Dats technically possible for you?
it could literally be you and empsRawr!
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