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[Wake1]

Wake can you link a couple of your recent scumgames?

also are you still feeling scum on Alo?

All I want to know from Aloratom is why he said that other guy was definite Scum.

Him evading my question only makes me suspect him more.

If he explains why, I'm more likely to relent.

But what if his explanation is scummy?

That question is rhetorical & facetious in equal measure.

Wait, what?

Yeah, if Aloratom flips Scum you're next.

[Hectic]

The early readslists and questioning I've been doing on an alt of mine with decent results; trying it out here now! Sir Cakez, why is the progression not there for a readslist? Not all the reads are substanceful/have good reasoning behind them - some are just thoughts and feelings.

My Aloratom ping is essentially entirely based around 288. I wanted to hold off on saying why but for the sake of transparency and all that: Scum!Aloratom has this habit where he tries to sound

too

transparent, as if he's overdoing it while explaining his thought process. It's hard to articulate but you should get what I mean by reading it. He did a lot of that as scum in the last mystery box game.

How dare you call my questions generic, Aaron. They're handpicked and excellently woven to yield the best alignment-indicative replies you'll ever see.

[Hectic]

how would you say your stance differ?


Not saying your doign the same but what to hear in your words how you woudl describe every push and stance you have taken and how you think it compares.


Also do you think any of his thoughts? Even as if they are as you suggest unoriginal?

As its bit easy to say unoriginal to interact while also avoiding truely commenting on them

I think taking less natural stances and explaining less thought processes is scum-indicative in general but especially for Gamma. Usually as town he's a lot more active and transparent. It's as if he recieved the

Running Shoes

early on, but then decided to walk around barefoot through Hoenn. It's just not right.

[SirCakez]

WOW I thought CSF was a newbie this whole time...

why did you only comment on that when Wake pointed it out, rather than when it happened?

Because I missed it.

The early readslists and questioning I've been doing on an alt of mine with decent results; trying it out here now! Sir Cakez, why is the progression not there for a readslist? Not all the reads are substanceful/have good reasoning behind them - some are just thoughts and feelings.

My Aloratom ping is essentially entirely based around 288. I wanted to hold off on saying why but for the sake of transparency and all that: Scum!Aloratom has this habit where he tries to sound

too

transparent, as if he's overdoing it while explaining his thought process. It's hard to articulate but you should get what I mean by reading it. He did a lot of that as scum in the last mystery box game.

How dare you call my questions generic, Aaron. They're handpicked and excellently woven to yield the best alignment-indicative replies you'll ever see.

I think a lot of the players in this game have done very little that's AI. I'm not the only one who feels this way. It feels weird that you somehow could pull a full readslist out of that. And what's the point doing so so early?

[Hectic]

Newly Revised NON-Generic Questions

AaronFFrost:

You're on a sinking ship. The load on the deck is too heavy. However, you can throw 2 of [Bobman, tictac, profii, HoldenGolden] overboard to save humanity. Who'll it be?

Morning Tweet

: [Waka Waka] has gifted you [Cop, Vig, and Neighbouriser] shots. Very generous of him, and you give him a nod of approval as thanks. How do you use your newly found powers?

tictac:

You're taking a leisurely stroll on the top of the Empire State Building when you notice [Aloratom] manically talking to himself by the edge. Seems like he's chanting about the Bobman; he might jump! Do you:

• Ask Hectic to lay a ladder out on the building's side.
  
• Ask Davesaz to do a drive-by on his electrically-powered flying scooter.
  
• Remind Aloratom of the
  power of friendship
  .

[Hectic]

I think a lot of the players in this game have done very little that's AI. I'm not the only one who feels this way. It feels weird that you somehow could pull a full readslist out of that. And what's the point doing so so early?

It's NAI. I've been putting out full readlists (without explanations) as early as page 3/4 in other games. Like I said, a lot is gut in the early stages.

[SirCakez]

are you related to mastina per chance?

[Hectic]

Mastina's my alt, yeah.

[Gamma Emerald]

Reading now

I didn't realize bob was here. Definite scum.

VOTE: bob

Could you explain that confidence here?

Let me double check.

@bob -- are you scum this game?

@bob -- Before I definitively report back to Wake, can you answer this for me?

This interaction you’re having here feels weird dude

[Gamma Emerald]

What are you seeing town in about Wake's questioning, dave?

Its existence. I see this post as possibly town motivated as well.

The question was pretty inane imo

Why’d you ask it then?

[Aloratom]

at first galnce i woudl say alorat seems different from his scum game. There he was say x and y was scum without any reason.

So Bob, gotta ask -- in this game he said you were scum without any reason.
If that's what he does in scumgames, then why were you so nonchalant about it here?

This feels a little selective. I say alor in general is not acting like he was in his scum game. And you jump on the fact that he made a quick early scum read. Although he may of given a bit of a scum read at the same time he is saying things like in post 262. Where he says he hasnt got handle on me. Thus what ever read he has is not strong. With this same read being a page 4 read and not real much of big deal.

What level of reason wuld you expect anyoen to have so early into teh game. where if everyone posted equally no one woudl hae more than 7 posts. With me havign 3 or so mostly rvs posts. What level of reason would you realy expect any player to have at that point.

And everything else regarding me in his posts has not been to push me but just generaly commenting on early events in neutral manner.


In his scum game he as active in throwing shade around and persistently push the same reads and pushs even though he never backed them up

Did you think that RVS post where I voted you was a serious post?

[Aloratom]

Alirotam can you explain 138 please?

Nothing wrong with ending RVS, but usually it's done organically.

I didn't see anything strained about Holden's posts.

You slammed on the brakes, saying stopping RVS was always pro-Town. Saying that Holden's posts were strained raised one of my eyebrows.

Making a point of saying that you're pro-Town raised both

.

I dont like this for the last part since in Cakes response to my post during the time he revealed he was making a general statement about ending RVS is protown. I agree the wording was a bit ambiguous at first (I thought he was saying that I thought he wasnt protown for doing it myself first time around), but it doesnt change the fact by the time this post came out it was clear what cake meant.

Spoiler: Posts in question

@sircake did I ever say it wasnt? Regardless of how pro town it is, that doesnt change the fact I want to see the thought process you put into it. I have an rough idea over the games I've played on how scum vs town approaches my playstyle. I do find the way you done it to be more of the latter, but I needed to understand what lead you there a bit more

I think you misunderstood my post. I was saying in general to the thread to move out of RVS is protown, it wasn't specifically directed at you.
I'm not sure what else to add to my description of my thought process here. I think 118 and 120 cover it.
I will agree that MT's vote reasoning was weird

Alirotam can you explain 138 please?

You slammed on the brakes, saying stopping RVS was always pro-Town. Saying that Holden's posts were strained raised one of my eyebrows. Making a point of saying that you're pro-Town raised both.

I think it's likely that Alo was explaining why he felt that way at the time of 138, rather than stating that's how he still felt.

Oh shoot I got the ordering wrong as well. Cake didnt post his thing to me till afterwards *facepalm*

I think you figured this out, right?

[Aloratom]

Alright. If you had to vig shoot and protect in {Gamma Emerald, tictac, profii} tonight, who would your targets be, and why?

Is that a possible role?

One more thing: Have you ever been in a private topic with Bobman before?

I'm not aware of having been.

[Hectic]

Alright. If you had to vig shoot and protect in {Gamma Emerald, tictac, profii} tonight, who would your targets be, and why?

Is that a possible role?

One more thing: Have you ever been in a private topic with Bobman before?

I'm not aware of having been.

Not sure actually. Witches can heal/kill, I suppose.

[Morning Tweet]

Thank you wake you are very kind!

I would cop the hardest to read player in the pool of players who hasn't contributed too much yet. Either because they're good at scum or lack an easily accessible meta. Lol I want to say bob just because I haven't been able to read him in the past. but I think i'd probably actually go for Gamma or tictac since I think there's hope I can figure out bob this time around

Vig someone? i don't want to vig someone d1 unless i had a really good reason, a better reason than "can't read" or "doesnt post much". So i'd save it for later, running the risk I lose it but I think that'd be better than accidentally shooting a townie that hasn't done anything wrong

I'd neighbourize hectic, without a doubt. He's the coolest!

[Morning Tweet]

Alright. If you had to vig shoot and protect in {Gamma Emerald, tictac, profii} tonight, who would your targets be, and why?

Is that a possible role?

Multitasking 1-shot vig 1-shot doctor, maybe. Also why does it matter if it's possible?

[profii]

Wake can you link a couple of your recent scumgames?

also are you still feeling scum on Alo?

All I want to know from Aloratom is why he said that other guy was definite Scum.

Him evading my question only makes me suspect him more.

If he explains why, I'm more likely to relent.

But what if his explanation is scummy?

That question is rhetorical & facetious in equal measure.

Wait, what?

Yeah, if Aloratom flips Scum you're next.

You know what I meant when I said I'm being facetious or not?

[Klick]

tictac has been prodded.

[Cat Scratch Fever]

Wake can you link a couple of your recent scumgames?

also are you still feeling scum on Alo?

All I want to know from Aloratom is why he said that other guy was definite Scum.

Him evading my question only makes me suspect him more.

If he explains why, I'm more likely to relent.

He said in 325 that it was just rvs

[Cat Scratch Fever]

WOW I thought CSF was a newbie this whole time...

:3

[Cat Scratch Fever]

What are you seeing town in about Wake's questioning, dave?

Its existence. I see this post as possibly town motivated as well.

The question was pretty inane imo

Why’d you ask it then?

I was trying to say

Wakes question was inane

[davesaz]

I, for one, would like to hear more from tictac.

I would hate to think he's holding back.

I'd like to hear more from you about players other than Aloratom and tictac. The early TR is slipping a lot.

[davesaz]

I was trying to say

Wakes question was inane

What do you think of the conversation that it prompted?

[AaronFrost]

How dare you call my questions generic, Aaron. They're handpicked and excellently woven to yield the best alignment-indicative replies you'll ever see.

Honestly, it's less about the questions and more about the fact that you don't seem to be doing much with them. Like if they actually do yield AI content from people then you do you, it's just something I haven't really seen from you before.

[AaronFrost]

Newly Revised NON-Generic Questions

AaronFFrost:

You're on a sinking ship. The load on the deck is too heavy. However, you can throw 2 of [Bobman, tictac, profii, HoldenGolden] overboard to save humanity. Who'll it be?

bob and tictac probably.

Again, I'm not really seeing how this is supposed to help you scumhunt.