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as you can see im kind of conflicted on the whole trying to discuss to figure out scum and just arbitrarily elim Norway's scumread because we know that's not scum-influenced, but then again it doesn't seem like the town wants to go off of Norway's reads anyway which kind of defeats the whole point since the BM elim will just go through with way higher probability than 40%. Especially now that I think BM is acting kind of townie I think I'd rather just try to discuss this out normally with everyone and accept we are not winning this situation even near 40% of the time, really waiting on Damus for input here.- innocentvillager
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word started posting Day2 just after I unvoted Battle Mage. From a conditional probability standpoint given that the day had started for a bit already at that point it's likely he was waiting to post. If he was waiting to post it's very likely because he's scum, BM is town, and he's posting thoughts in the PT to try and setup some quickhammering plan waiting for his partner to come online. I also saw word online in that half hour between the flip and his post which gives some credence to my theory.- innocentvillager
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i imagine if word was scum he'd have already worked out his quickhammer plan during Day 2. If he was scum with Deimos, I'd be even more certain, as both are very smart players. I'm not keen on these kind of "he was logged in for 10 minutes and didn't post" tells - not very reliable.In post 403, innocentvillager wrote:word started posting Day2 just after I unvoted Battle Mage. From a conditional probability standpoint given that the day had started for a bit already at that point it's likely he was waiting to post. If he was waiting to post it's very likely because he's scum, BM is town, and he's posting thoughts in the PT to try and setup some quickhammering plan waiting for his partner to come online. I also saw word online in that half hour between the flip and his post which gives some credence to my theory.
You got anything else?Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%- Battle Mage
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Damus is a cute petname, the sort of thing a lover might come up withIn post 401, innocentvillager wrote:as you can see im kind of conflicted on the whole trying to discuss to figure out scum and just arbitrarily elim Norway's scumread because we know that's not scum-influenced, but then again it doesn't seem like the town wants to go off of Norway's reads anyway which kind of defeats the whole point since the BM elim will just go through with way higher probability than 40%. Especially now that I think BM is acting kind of townie I think I'd rather just try to discuss this out normally with everyone and accept we are not winning this situation even near 40% of the time, really waiting on Damus for input here.
Why do you not care for input from Nash?Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%- innocentvillager
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this was less than half an hour into day2 when damos hadn't been online, i don't think they would've planned that far ahead there's really no needIn post 405, Battle Mage wrote:
i imagine if word was scum he'd have already worked out his quickhammer plan during Day 2. If he was scum with Deimos, I'd be even more certain, as both are very smart players. I'm not keen on these kind of "he was logged in for 10 minutes and didn't post" tells - not very reliable.In post 403, innocentvillager wrote:word started posting Day2 just after I unvoted Battle Mage. From a conditional probability standpoint given that the day had started for a bit already at that point it's likely he was waiting to post. If he was waiting to post it's very likely because he's scum, BM is town, and he's posting thoughts in the PT to try and setup some quickhammering plan waiting for his partner to come online. I also saw word online in that half hour between the flip and his post which gives some credence to my theory.
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it literally could've just been along the lines of "innocentvillager parked a vote on BM, damos/nash maybe we can try to figure out a time to be online together"
I feel like especially with his reaction youtube post and having been online for a bit he really only should've posted that if he had just seen the thread, not if he saw the thread, did other stuff for a bit (e.g. posting in the PT), then decided to post the reaction youtube post.
It's not a big tell but i think it's more likely from scum!word than town!word.- Battle Mage
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ah sorry i mistyped, I meant Day 1. It's a 2 day game, so no reason scum wouldnt have planned this out at the very beginning.In post 408, innocentvillager wrote:
this was less than half an hour into day2 when damos hadn't been online, i don't think they would've planned that far ahead there's really no needIn post 405, Battle Mage wrote:
i imagine if word was scum he'd have already worked out his quickhammer plan during Day 2. If he was scum with Deimos, I'd be even more certain, as both are very smart players. I'm not keen on these kind of "he was logged in for 10 minutes and didn't post" tells - not very reliable.In post 403, innocentvillager wrote:word started posting Day2 just after I unvoted Battle Mage. From a conditional probability standpoint given that the day had started for a bit already at that point it's likely he was waiting to post. If he was waiting to post it's very likely because he's scum, BM is town, and he's posting thoughts in the PT to try and setup some quickhammering plan waiting for his partner to come online. I also saw word online in that half hour between the flip and his post which gives some credence to my theory.
You got anything else?Show2020 Stats - 31 completed games:
Survived to the end and won - 11
Nightkilled - 10
Survived to the end and lost - 6
Day-elimmed by majority - 4
winrate as scum: 78%
winrate as town: 55%- innocentvillager
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sure, I guess in general what I'm referring to is the following regardless of whatever plan they had:
say you're word and you're scum with Damos/Nash. innocentvillager parks a vote on BM citing Norway's past read. You probably just want to pretend you didn't see the thread and wait for your partner so you can quickhammer right? Or at least mulling it over. any post you make has the chance of making innocentvillager potentially change his mind.
So the fact that word was here and didn't post or tell me to unvote when he clearly said we shouldn't vote in a ELo situation is scummy, regardless of whatever plan you think they might've had.- innocentvillager
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i think given what we know, it seems likely that scum just kind of had a field day when the three of us (me, you, Norway) just started ratcheting up posts and tunnelling each other. the game is dead apart from the three of us because scum don't really need to do anything when the most active posters are just kind of strangling each other to death- innocentvillager
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fwiw this seems like a really weird scum-scum interaction but idk if BM is capable of something like this
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Dear Lover,
Where were you last night? Please don't be afraid. This towndeservedto be destroyed. You know that it did. I love you and they were all filled with hate. We are pure. We are worth it.
It doesn't matter anymore anyway. We are getting out of here. They have turned on each other completely now. I just have to take care of two remaining problems for us... Your hands will remain clean, being the angel that you are. Just close your eyes baby, we will be together. It all comes to an end.
They exiled their own. They are at each other's throats. It is only right to put them out of their misery. Please come back tonight. We've won, baby.
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