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Post Post #3544 (isolation #400) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:42 pm

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you seem to be leaning towards me being town, you haven't voted, you haven't actively tried to dissuade them from lynching me - it feels like you are ok with me self-destructing here despite having a good idea that I'm town.
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Post Post #3545 (isolation #401) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:44 pm

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which would make sense to me if you are scum and just laughing at the town rn going after the LHFs. It's sometimes hard to come up with content when the town is busy chasing the wrong people and you are in a very good spot as locktown'd scum.
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Post Post #3546 (isolation #402) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:45 pm

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I'm just curious btw

if you are scum - is there a chess game in the Scum PT between Koba and Bugspray ?
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Post Post #3551 (isolation #403) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:48 pm

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koba is very good at chess

i can see it being a slaughter
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Post Post #3553 (isolation #404) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 4:49 pm

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Which opening did bugspray play? this is very useful information for my studies
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Post Post #3556 (isolation #405) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:11 pm

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Added data based on posts/day for his games.

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From the data it looks like he tends to post more often as town than scum by a significant margin per day - this could be skewed by the fact that he tends to replace out early as scum without doing much while as town he tends to get into more heated engagements.

Analyzing the data from this game he's at 4.64 posts/day currently - which is closer to his scum-range than his town-range. I'll do some more re-reading of his scum games when I get a chance to.
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Post Post #3557 (isolation #406) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 5:50 pm

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Scum games might be skewed lower than normal due to 2 of the 5 games being very early replace outs and one of them being a replace in right before game end so the sample size is quite small on the scum side.
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Post Post #3561 (isolation #407) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:13 pm

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i don't understand - the data analysis is of dsjtr - not datisi
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Post Post #3563 (isolation #408) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:22 pm

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In post 3536, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3412, dsjstr wrote:
In post 3397, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3305, dsjstr wrote:If I'm wrong then I'd like to be the hammer today.
can you explain why you want to be hammer today?
I have many many many town games where I am the elim in ELO, I'd like to avoid that.
I spent some time pulling dsj's games on this site and here's his game history until December 2019 - I excluded Partition and Grand Conspiracy due to the strange voting rules in those games:

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=83776 Townie Replaced D1
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=83080 Scum Replaced D1
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=83071 Scum Replaced D1
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=83581 Scum Lynched D3
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=83530 Townie Lynched D2
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=83286 Scum Won in Endgame
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=82166 Townie Killed N1
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=82022 Townie Lynched in LYLO
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=82005 Townie Replaced D1
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=82026 Townie Lynched in LYLO
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=81962 Scum Hammers himself D2
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=81816 Townie Replaced D2
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=81730 Town Tracker NK'd N2


So there are two games where he does lose as townie in LYLO. I'll do some more analysis based on post count in each game. A lot of his games are newbie games where he posts very little. I did a brief skim of the games where he is scum and nothing caught my eye yet but I'll re-read again.
you can click on the links in this post

from reading his scum games - I think he is very bad as scum and I feel his play as scum is maybe worse than this game?
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Post Post #3565 (isolation #409) » Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:57 pm

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fair
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Post Post #3577 (isolation #410) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:20 am

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In post 3574, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3492, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:messed up quotes there,

my response is:


I am only slumslotting your slot in the event that tw dies in the night and skitter gets a 2nd visit confirmed
This is what is confusing me about your posting. I liked this answer for example
In post 3546, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I'm just curious btw
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if you are scum - is there a chess game in the Scum PT between Koba and Bugspray ?
but then you make this comment. Are you tl me or shading my slot, I really can’t tell.
that's just my normal banter

also why is there an evil smiley face there
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Post Post #3578 (isolation #411) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:21 am

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In post 3567, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3499, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i meant tw/skitter
Um . . . that’s two?

How do you forget you’re a PR here?
i mean tw/skitter can't be the scumteam because that would mean I am the only PR.

also cuz datisi got a pm from mod that skitter is FN
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Post Post #3601 (isolation #412) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:54 am

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In post 3587, Something_Smart wrote:we definitely need dsjstr's flip to make sense of anything
please elaborate

Dsj flips scum ->??

Dsj flips town ->??
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Post Post #3603 (isolation #413) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:11 am

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i have trouble seeing how you could think I am scum with dsj
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Post Post #3609 (isolation #414) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:34 am

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In post 3604, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3530, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:SS is not interested in solving the game but he somehow knows im town and has the mechanics down pat.
like i find the timing of this to be kinda suspect :/

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Post Post #3610 (isolation #415) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:38 am

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In post 3606, skitter30 wrote:bleh sorry i know i'm not being helpful
(i'm feeling like ... really burnt out rn)

i'm leaning towards voting pooky here cuz i'm not sure how else he'd be sorted
and he feels really disingenuous in several of his arguments
and is shading like ... many people

i don't really want dsjstr in lylo either tho
what i really dont want is a green dsj flip today followed by easy lynch of me tomm in lylo for scumwin

id rather get lynched today, flip green and you guys think about what I said about dsj/ss knowing my role is green
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Post Post #3613 (isolation #416) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 10:46 am

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In post 3607, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 3605, skitter30 wrote:ummm not sure i agree with this assessment
are you suggesting that I as scum couldn't think of anything to say for 46 straight hours and somehow didn't think that people might think that was suspect?
you've been mostly fluffposting the whole game tho
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Post Post #3631 (isolation #417) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:03 pm

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In post 3624, Something_Smart wrote:I just went through my entire ISO, I have 8 fluffposts in 170 posts. What are you on about?
i re-read your ISO today and it felt very fluffy

just my opinion - people can re-read it themselves and come to their own opinion ofc
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Post Post #3632 (isolation #418) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:07 pm

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In post 3630, skitter30 wrote:should i just take the plunge and vote dsjstr????

dats i really don't want you to autovote pooky tom in that case :/
Skitter,

I've read all of dsj's scumgames and a few of his longer town games that I linked prior to this.

The difference between him here and his previous scumgames is that he's lasted longer than a few days - in 2 scumgames he replaces out almost immediately, one of them he replaced in on the last day and did nothing, very rarely does he actually play the game out when he is dealt scum and his scum play is very crap.

I also re-read a few of his town games and he usually gets into stupid arguments - but this could be because they are mostly newbie games.

A possible explanation for his play this game is that he feels uncomfortable and out of his depth- however I do not believe dsjtr offering to off himself via lynch to avoid lylo is within his scumrange - his scum play lacks that level of deception.

My worry is that the scum are outside of dats/dsj and they are happy to keep me/dats alive as lynchbait for lylo when they can just jump on Datisi - hence why I think removing me is the best way to clear Datisi's head if he is actually town which I currently believe he is.
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Post Post #3633 (isolation #419) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:10 pm

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when I said jump on datisi I mean jump on datisi's vote on me and speedlynch me in lylo
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Post Post #3634 (isolation #420) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:22 pm

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In post 3627, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3609, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3604, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3530, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:SS is not interested in solving the game but he somehow knows im town and has the mechanics down pat.
like i find the timing of this to be kinda suspect :/

?
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In post 3525, skitter30 wrote:also is it bad that i'm not really townreading ss anymore?
In post 3530, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:SS is not interested in solving the game but he somehow knows im town and has the mechanics down pat.
Ok but what about these posts:
In post 3476, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:lets say i am lynched today.

assuming tw dies in the night and flips bg and someone else confirms skitter as FM tommorrow, then I think the scum would be SS/Raven in the endgame.

if tw doesnt die and skitter dies- I think there is a strong chance tw/SS are the scum.

if datisi dies and tw lives - I also think it would be tw/SS as scum but this is the hardest scenario imo.
In post 3495, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote: koba is a very creative and fun player. I can see them doing some crazy shit as scum

In post 3521, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
my suspicion of ss is because I think he knows im town
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Post Post #3642 (isolation #421) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:22 pm

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alright I'll defer if you think this is scumDSJ
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Post Post #3659 (isolation #422) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:14 pm

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In post 3637, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 3631, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i re-read your ISO today and it felt very fluffy
What is your definition of fluff then? Because mine is "posts that aren't related to the game."
promises to read the game/catchup are fluffy to me - like I sympathize with being like 70 pages behind when you replace in but you always have the option to engage into the game without prior information and catch up later or reread 5-10 pages at a time and post your thoughts as you re-read in.

also you have a fairly observational style that feels less interested in solving the game. I don't know if this is just your style but it feels like you have a very good grasp of who is who in this game but you don't use this knowledge to push for an outcome you want.
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Post Post #3660 (isolation #423) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:14 pm

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In post 3646, skitter30 wrote:also happy cakeday pooky
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Post Post #3661 (isolation #424) » Mon Aug 17, 2020 9:17 pm

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In post 3643, skitter30 wrote:- i mgiht argue that he's exhibiting a fatalistic mindset by repping out in his scumgames (i.e. he doesn't htink he, in that slot, can further the scumwincon, so just leaves). and that volunteering to rep-out is him manifesting the same mindset in a slightly different way
I can understand repping out to further the scumwincon because you think a new person coming in would help the scum-team more - however getting lynched does not help the scum win con.

There is one game where he does self-vote himself out as scum to deny the town information so it's not impossible that he would pull this fatalistic move here.
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Post Post #3678 (isolation #425) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:32 am

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In post 3674, skitter30 wrote:yeah i think the fatalism is more an aspect of his playstyle than his alignment, you also linked a game where he self-voted as town in lylo
that game the town basically had a lockwin if I understand it correctly and he did it to get it over with? i only looked at a few page near where he selfvoted out
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Post Post #3679 (isolation #426) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:35 am

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In post 3674, skitter30 wrote:what do u think about my other points (namely, the fact that he doesn't seem to have a consistent underlying throught process motivating his posts, or the fact that you're focusing on what i believe to be a largely meaningless distinction between his town and scumgames)
that's a good point - he is more all over the place in this game.

I think there's a good chance he is scum now that he's switched from wanting to get lynched to wanting to lynch me for survival which is a pretty random progression from his previous fatalism about lylo.
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Post Post #3686 (isolation #427) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:03 am

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In post 3680, skitter30 wrote:aside, pooky, irregardless of your alignment here i think you have a really good scumgame, just btw
tfw when your towngame is so bad that people start complimenting your scumgame -.-
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Post Post #3688 (isolation #428) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:08 am

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me backing off dsj here has more to do with you/duck making datisi promise not to vote me right away in lylo than anything.
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Post Post #3689 (isolation #429) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:11 am

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and dsj 3617 is quite bad,

you make a compelling case for him being scum - im just lowkey paranoid tho
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Post Post #3692 (isolation #430) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 4:11 am

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if dsj flips town and datisi autovotes me tomm we just lose
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Post Post #3694 (isolation #431) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 5:31 am

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3617
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Post Post #3697 (isolation #432) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:15 am

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>.>

hope you don't die then

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Post Post #3698 (isolation #433) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:16 am

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3617 is a reversal off his previous post asking to get lynched to avoid being alive tomm - also it kind of feels like he's saying he thinks I'm not scum but he's voting for me anyway cuz it's his best path to survival
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Post Post #3700 (isolation #434) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:17 am

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if koba didn't get replaced we'd be on page 300 by now
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Post Post #3703 (isolation #435) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:49 am

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i have 0 chance of being nightkilled
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Post Post #3708 (isolation #436) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:51 am

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tis true

koba was a spamlord 4 sure

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Post Post #3728 (isolation #437) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 2:53 pm

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Post Post #3731 (isolation #438) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:03 pm

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I'm legit terrified of tomm if this guy doesn't flip red
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Post Post #3733 (isolation #439) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:09 pm

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you're not the one I'm afraid of -.-
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Post Post #3735 (isolation #440) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:19 pm

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Post Post #3737 (isolation #441) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:22 pm

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can you change your dying scumread pls

I kinda want to sheep you for the rest of the game
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Post Post #3739 (isolation #442) » Tue Aug 18, 2020 3:30 pm

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i has more confidence in your reads than mine :3
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Post Post #3825 (isolation #443) » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:49 am

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In post 3821, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 3813, Raven Branwen wrote:Exactly. @SS aren’t you supposed to be some mech genius or something?
I am. There's a big difference between killing someone tomorrow and killing them today. You may note that skitter is still alive and confirmed and can lead us in lylo. If not for the BG, they could (and would) have just killed her.

The mark is a strongman with a drawback. No point in having a strongman if there's nothing for it to bypass.
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Post Post #3826 (isolation #444) » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:49 am

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we need to flip ss today
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Post Post #3827 (isolation #445) » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:50 am

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if tw still doesnt protect any1 successfully - odds r he is last scum.
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Post Post #3828 (isolation #446) » Fri Aug 21, 2020 7:51 am

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the mark is designed to get around being blown up by the bomb. they are using it to justify tw not successfully protecting skitter - there is a good chance tw isnt even a bg at this point but im more convinced on flipping ss
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Post Post #3833 (isolation #447) » Fri Aug 21, 2020 10:23 am

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In post 3831, skitter30 wrote:
In post 3826, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:we need to flip ss today
ok time to convince me why we aren't flipping u
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Post Post #3848 (isolation #448) » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:51 am

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if you guys think scumpooky really offered to get lynched yesterday to save towndsjtr then lol just lynch me and lose its whatever
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Post Post #3849 (isolation #449) » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:54 am

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i've literally never offered myself up to be lynched to defend someone else ever before and I sure wouldn't do it as scum
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Post Post #3850 (isolation #450) » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:56 am

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In post 3632, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3630, skitter30 wrote:should i just take the plunge and vote dsjstr????

dats i really don't want you to autovote pooky tom in that case :/
Skitter,

I've read all of dsj's scumgames and a few of his longer town games that I linked prior to this.

The difference between him here and his previous scumgames is that he's lasted longer than a few days - in 2 scumgames he replaces out almost immediately, one of them he replaced in on the last day and did nothing, very rarely does he actually play the game out when he is dealt scum and his scum play is very crap.

I also re-read a few of his town games and he usually gets into stupid arguments - but this could be because they are mostly newbie games.

A possible explanation for his play this game is that he feels uncomfortable and out of his depth- however I do not believe dsjtr offering to off himself via lynch to avoid lylo is within his scumrange - his scum play lacks that level of deception.

My worry is that the scum are outside of dats/dsj and they are happy to keep me/dats alive as lynchbait for lylo when they can just jump on Datisi - hence why I think removing me is the best way to clear Datisi's head if he is actually town which I currently believe he is.
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Post Post #3851 (isolation #451) » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:58 am

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like I don't know which universe we'd have to be in for you guys to think it's possible that scumPooky spends hours re-reading DSJTR's games to try to derail a mis-elim wagon on TOWN-DSJTR in order to get himself lynched instead.

it's just wild

but since apparently you all believe that its just laloalalalaoalaoler
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Post Post #3852 (isolation #452) » Fri Aug 21, 2020 11:59 am

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like i literally said that this felt like scum setting up a low hanging fruit dsj lynch followed by easy pooky lylo lynch for the win and showed you guys how to prevent it but you guys just ignored me and were like ya lets just kill dsj instead lol i cant even
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Post Post #3861 (isolation #453) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:53 am

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In post 3855, Raven Branwen wrote:My personal opinion wrt to duckling’s role is that I agree with Skitter and not SS or Pooky. I still don’t really see how a marking scum confirms it but I also don’t understand why Pooky thinks that if an mfd happens again it casts doubt upon it.
mfd doesnt confirm it - SS trying to usd MFD to confirm it is what casts doubt on it.
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Post Post #3875 (isolation #454) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:54 am

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i cant believe im still universally scumread lol. gg well played
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Post Post #3878 (isolation #455) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:08 am

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dont waste braincells speculating about my scumbuddy. u guys mislynch me game is over
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Post Post #3881 (isolation #456) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:14 am

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In post 3879, Datisi wrote:tbf i'm just waiting the greenlight from skitter to vote you anyway
offering myself up to be lynched to protect a townie mislynch is literally miles outside my scumrange roflroflrofl
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Post Post #3883 (isolation #457) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:15 am

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datisi makes me pull my hair out this game is so fustratingly stupid
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Post Post #3884 (isolation #458) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:16 am

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shouldve just lynched me yesterday if you were going to be so stubborn jeasus
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Post Post #3886 (isolation #459) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:17 am

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Post Post #3889 (isolation #460) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:19 am

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Post Post #3896 (isolation #461) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:39 am

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i might as well vent since im destined to die
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Post Post #3897 (isolation #462) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:40 am

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town: let's lynch dsjtr
pooky: no Im townreading dsj - lynch me instead
town: lynches dsj
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town: ok time to lynch pooky

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Post Post #3900 (isolation #463) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:46 am

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nah i just think it's wild that people think Pooky-Scum offered to get lynched to save DSJ-Town when he was looking like the obvious misLynch candidate on d2. Like in what universe is that even remotely probable?
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Post Post #3901 (isolation #464) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:47 am

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like even not reading my role PM - I would think its pretty obvious that this didn't happen
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Post Post #3903 (isolation #465) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 7:50 am

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i changed my read on him when it was inevitable that he was getting lynched and cuz skitter convinced me he was scum. before then I was convinced he was town
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Post Post #3906 (isolation #466) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:15 am

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that would be like death by water torture
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Post Post #3909 (isolation #467) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:17 am

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when you get to koba levels of spamming maybe
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Post Post #3911 (isolation #468) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:17 am

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talk to me dats

what will it take to convince you i'm a good guy here
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Post Post #3912 (isolation #469) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:18 am

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or should i just wait for skitter to come around and lay myself down at her feet
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Post Post #3917 (isolation #470) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:44 am

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In post 3913, Datisi wrote:what are you trying to sell me? s_s/tw?
I'm trying to convince you I'm not scum lol
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Post Post #3923 (isolation #471) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 11:57 am

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In post 3918, Datisi wrote:i mean....... unless you're trying to convince me this setup is actually 9town and 0mafia and in order to win we must overthrow moderation and execute micc......... you being not!scum would mean someone else is................
well I'd need you to be convinced I'm not scum first before you'd actually listen to me on someone else no?
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Post Post #3926 (isolation #472) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:09 pm

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r u just trolling me at this point?
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Post Post #3928 (isolation #473) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 12:26 pm

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Post Post #3932 (isolation #474) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 3:40 pm

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can we have a deadline extension if 1/3rd of the game is going to be vla kinda stupid to play out lylo this way
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Post Post #3944 (isolation #475) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:41 pm

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you are already conf town
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Post Post #3945 (isolation #476) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:41 pm

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i'm writing my case on SS but I'm not 100% sure about it - I'm really counting on you to be right about Datisi and Raven
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Post Post #3953 (isolation #477) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:03 pm

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This is probably the shittiest case I've ever posted on anyone in lylo but SS doesn't really post much so there's not that much to attack - the focal point is in the reaction to Micc's response to SS's question and his general gameplay and playstyle that I find susp for being above the fray kind of. I have not examined or re-read SS games yet so if this is something he often does regardless of alignment then it would be difficult to place his alignment based on his style alone.



SS feels like he doesn't really care about the game because if you read through his ISO he basically is kind of floating above it all - he doesn't even put down a single vote - however he seems to be very aware of the game state - for example he seemed pretty sure that I was telling the truth about being a bomb quite early and I'm not sure a town-aligned player makes that jump so quickly. (Raven also makes the conclusion that I might be protown and lying but I feel much better about her belief in me than SS's belief in me - like when I read raven's posts I feel comfortable and like I kind of trust her - when I read SS's posts I feel there's something sinister there)

I got the feeling when Micc answered in thread and said I was lying about being a vig that SS couldn't believe how lucky he was:
In post 3136, Something_Smart wrote:Oh.

Well, any last words, Pooky?
This post feels like a mafia laughing at his incredible good fortune that a town player would lie about his role.
In post 3138, Something_Smart wrote:The mod just confirmed Pooky as lying, yes.
Twisting the knife
In post 3150, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 3147, skitter30 wrote:Anyone in particular i should be fn-ing?
I mean, if Pooky actually is scum then it doesn't matter.
This post doesn't make a lot of sense to me coming from SS - shouldn't be so uncertain at that point in time of my scuminess - mod had already confirmed I was lying - don't know why he puts that qualifier there.


I've re-read the post Micc-saying that I'm lying about a vig section a few times now and SS's play feels the most unnatural to me of all the players - I would've thought it would be more believable as a town-reaction if he had voted me or not believed me but the way he posted makes me think he knew I was a town power role to begin with except I was lying about my role for whatever reason.



In post 3821, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 3813, Raven Branwen wrote:Exactly. @SS aren’t you supposed to be some mech genius or something?
I am. There's a big difference between killing someone tomorrow and killing them today. You may note that skitter is still alive and confirmed and can lead us in lylo. If not for the BG, they could (and would) have just killed her.

The mark is a strongman with a drawback. No point in having a strongman if there's nothing for it to bypass.

This post seems like an oversight for a "mech" genius - there is something for the mark to bypass - the bomb for example. Also the motivation for marking skitter rather than outright killing her is very simple - if they outright kill her then TW would be on the hook for not protecting her.
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Post Post #3954 (isolation #478) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:15 pm

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In post 2912, the worst wrote:
In post 2910, skitter30 wrote:why weren't you on lilith ... ?
the confirmed vanilla?
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this answer is weird to me

I don't understand why a BG would guard a vanilla townie - because even if you succeed - you basically traded a bg for a vanilla townie...
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Post Post #3955 (isolation #479) » Sat Aug 22, 2020 6:23 pm

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also which game is TW's bg neighbor from? re-reading his ISO and I couldn't find it
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Post Post #4026 (isolation #480) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:38 am

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In post 3985, Datisi wrote:like i've been saying pooky's scum on dayplay. you could twist MFD "confirming" one or the other.
pookyscum would never offer to get lynched - thats literally miles outside my scumrange
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Post Post #4036 (isolation #481) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:52 am

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rofl i cant believe you guys are pushing raven/pooky when bugspray almost accidentally hammered me on d1 and kept me at L-1 and the entire datisi-pooky fight started with Pooky voting bugspray. what a joke.
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Post Post #4039 (isolation #482) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:03 am

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In post 4031, Datisi wrote:ah yeah offerered himself to get lynched

because "hey guys you should maybe lynch me today lol because i probably get mislynched in lylo" is such an impossible post to make for scum!pooky

pedit: holy shit that's a lot of posts.
you realize how hard of a throw that is if you guys actually listen to me and lynch me over town dsjtr if im scum?
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Post Post #4041 (isolation #483) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:05 am

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and i didnt just make that post. i literally spent hours rereading dsjtr's games and compiling stats from them into a spreadsheet but yea you do you
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Post Post #4044 (isolation #484) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:07 am

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how r u in the same spot. im alive right now and dsj would be alive instead of me
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Post Post #4045 (isolation #485) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:08 am

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and its not the same spot because i wouldve flipped bomb and ss/tw would be way more likely to get lynched
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Post Post #4050 (isolation #486) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:30 am

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In post 4047, Datisi wrote:
In post 4039, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:you realize how hard of a throw that is if you guys actually listen to me and lynch me over town dsjtr if im scum?
yeah. but we didn't.
Yes it didn't happen - but my point is that I tried to move it in that direction - specifically I defend dsjtr with the following logic:

Town-Dsjtr was a low hanging fruit lynch. (he turned out to be)

I literally said "I think he's low hanging fruit" and "I don't think scum-dsjtr has the deception level needed to offer himself up as a lynch" because dsjtr felt like a noob player to me - I then re-read literally like all his games from this year and datamined them for posting patterns and re-iterated my opinion that scum-dsjtr does not make the "offer myself as a lynch" play because he's not that sophisticated of a player and his play in previous games do not show that level of deception as scum.

There is no reason for scum-Pooky to make these points and offer himself up to be lynched instead - that's literally trying to get rid of a mis-elim for scum to set myself up as the lynch instead ? Like that makes 0 sense strategically for scum Pooky.

Yes you guys did not listen to me - but when I made these posts - I couldn't have KNOWN that you would decide to not listen to me. What if you guys had listened to me and said hey Pooky makes a good point, dsjtr is too noob to make the lynch-offer gambit- and decided to lynch Pooky instead of dsjtr? That would really screw Pooky-scum over hard - confirm tw as town and you guys might even not lynch dsj today if you think Pooky's play clears him.
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Post Post #4052 (isolation #487) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:31 am

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In post 4049, Something_Smart wrote:Why did I kill lilith over skitter who softed PR?
you can say this of literally any scum - it doesn't make much sense for skitter to be killed over lilith except that skitter death leads to tw lynch.
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Post Post #4054 (isolation #488) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:33 am

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i literally explained the reason for me to do it as town yesterday
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Post Post #4055 (isolation #489) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:34 am

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In post 3475, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:ggest fear rn is we lynch dsj, he flips green then i get speedlynched in lylo for the easy win. I think if you flip me today you remove the lylo speedlynch threat and also have a better shot tommorrow.
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Post Post #4061 (isolation #490) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:39 am

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when I offered myself up to be lynched instead of dsj - I thought dsj would be a LHF mislynch and I also thought I would be a liability at lylo - me getting lynched instead of him helps avoid both those scenarios - it also gets datisi to move his head out of his death-tunnel as well as casts doubt on TW's PR.

that's why it makes sense for me to offer myself as a lynch on the day before lylo because the info game off me flipping green was a lot higher than dsj flipping green.

it makes no sense for me to offer self-lynch if I'm flipping red.
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Post Post #4062 (isolation #491) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:41 am

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In post 4057, Datisi wrote:
In post 4050, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Yes you guys did not listen to me - but when I made these posts - I couldn't have KNOWN that you would decide to not listen to me.
because acum never bluffs in any way shape or form... especially if your partner was haed pushing for dsjstr...
it's not a bluff because I have no idea how you guys would react to it.

the crux of my case was that dsjtr as scum does not have the sophistication or deception necesary to offer himself up as a lynch.

I then cite all his past games.

Skitter read those games and came up with the belief that DSJ replacing out is a fatalism thing that he's doing this time by offering to die. She just as easily could've read those games and said "hmm pooky's right, dsj is not a very smart or clever player as scum and is unlikely to do a self-lynch gambit"

There is NO WAY I would know how skitter would react to my case before I posted it.
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Post Post #4068 (isolation #492) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:48 am

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you dont think I was serious when i offered to get lynched?
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Post Post #4073 (isolation #493) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:55 am

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since I'm getting nowhere with the Pooky wouldn't offered to get lynched defense with you guys, let's try associatives.

Let's assume for the sake of argument Pooky is scum here.

Who is Pooky's scum partner? Let's look at all the possibilities:


Skitter - Nah she's marked for death


Something_Smart - Koba put Pooky at L-1, SS asked mod a question that confirmed Pooky was lying about his role, Pooky is pushing SS as the lynch.


The_Worst - This would mean there is only 1 TPR in the game...


Raven - Bugspray interaction with Pooky on D1 was: Pooky nearly hammered by Bugspray accidentally, Bugspray putting Pooky at L-1 for a prolonged period of time, Pooky getting reamed by Datisi for voting Bugspray.


Datisi - LOLOLOLOLOLOL


So which of these players is supposed to be my scumpartner?

hint: I don't have a scumpartner I'm town.
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Post Post #4074 (isolation #494) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:57 am

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In post 4063, Something_Smart wrote:But dsjstr would not be a liability in lylo?
if you guys listened to me and believed me when I said dsj can't be scum because scum-dsj isn't clever or deceptive enough to pull a lynch-me gambit - then obviously dsj wouldn't be a liability in lylo since you guys believe me that he is town
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Post Post #4077 (isolation #495) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 7:59 am

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at the end i was mostly swayed by skitter and I honestly wished to all hell that we'd hit a scum for once
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Post Post #4079 (isolation #496) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:00 am

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In post 4076, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 4074, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:if you guys listened to me and believed me when I said dsj can't be scum because scum-dsj isn't clever or deceptive enough to pull a lynch-me gambit - then obviously dsj wouldn't be a liability in lylo since you guys believe me that he is town
Given your track record this game, I'm pretty sure nobody would trust you enough to stake the game on that read.
my track record this game is better than yours buddy
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Post Post #4080 (isolation #497) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:02 am

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and honestly I'd be ok with being flipped green d2 and then u guys ignore my dsj read to lynch him for the loss because im petty and vindicative that way.
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Post Post #4082 (isolation #498) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:04 am

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i actually have you as town over dats at this point
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Post Post #4087 (isolation #499) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:07 am

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In post 4084, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 4079, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:my track record this game is better than yours buddy
And I sure wouldn't offer myself up as an execution to save a townread and expect people to actually respect it.
yea and you haven't taken a hard stance on anything this game
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Post Post #4090 (isolation #500) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:09 am

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yes thats true
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Post Post #4091 (isolation #501) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:10 am

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and you didnt just no try to save him - you actively pushed for him to get lynched over me.
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Post Post #4095 (isolation #502) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:19 am

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because dsj townlocked raven and i didnt
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Post Post #4106 (isolation #503) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:33 am

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it would depend on if you think Datisi's continued desire to lynch Pooky-scum are genuine or not because like 99% of his game relevant posts r "must lynch poooky"
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Post Post #4110 (isolation #504) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:41 am

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pls do
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Post Post #4116 (isolation #505) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:45 am

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i dont get how neighbor without a neighbor and lover without a lover are in any way confirming of a role
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Post Post #4119 (isolation #506) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:49 am

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In post 4113, Datisi wrote:
In post 4111, Raven Branwen wrote:I honestly don’t understand how you think I’m buddies with Pooky. Did bugs not try to get Pooky hammered?
it's an option i'm considering due to the fact that my previous team fell apart?

and no? bugs voted pooky to E-1. recently before that pooky was already at E-1 but koba (iirc) had unvoted him recently.
bugs didnt know what the VC was when he voted me, he could've hammered me - do you really think he does this if he's my scumbuddy?
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Post Post #4121 (isolation #507) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 8:51 am

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bugs doesnt read like he cares enough to fake
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Post Post #4126 (isolation #508) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:04 am

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In post 4123, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4011, Something_Smart wrote:If he wanted to claim BG, he didn't really have another choice
only if there were no other bg's in the 70-odd games we're working with
and i think that claiming neighborless neighbor is kinda risky?
I don't get why claiming neighborless neighbor is risky - do neighbors automatically get put into a neighborhood with each other? why would neighbors from different games get put into the same neigbhorhood?
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Post Post #4129 (isolation #509) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:09 am

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In post 4125, Datisi wrote:i'm not forgetting anything?? bugs voted for pooky when pooky was at E-2, but bugs allegedly hadn't read up to where koba unvoted pooky from E-1 to E-2, and therefore would've "accidentally hammered" pooky. i'm saying that it's within the realm of possibility for a bugs/pooky scumteam to fake that?

pedit: @raven

If you look at bugspray ISO - it's clear they are reacting post by post and they vote me when their reread is up to Post 476 - Koba doesn't unvote me until post 525 so bugs wouldn't have known at that point I wasn't at E-1 at that point in bugs reread tho I kind of doubt bugs was counting votes at all at that point in time.
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Post Post #4130 (isolation #510) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:10 am

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In post 4127, Datisi wrote:because you're claiming "hey i'm *role* but i'm not actually *role*" like how tf is that not risky?
my bomb ability is pretty useless if I claim bomb
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Post Post #4136 (isolation #511) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:14 am

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@Skitter

i got a little bit worried about dsj scum when I realized his posting rate is closer to his scum-rate than his town-rate when I did the data analysis,

then I got more suspicious after he decided to vote me here:
In post 3617, dsjstr wrote:
In post 3585, Raven Branwen wrote: Oh sorry then, I misunderstood. Well Skitter is mech locktown and Dats is damned close to that, so I don’t understand why dsjstr is still voting him when he cleared me but I’ll have to wait for him to answer that.
Well pooky seems to be my only option to not get killed, but I'm not really sure why me seeing you as town would make me also see Dats as town.
VOTE: Pooky

But more than anything I think I just wanted us to lynch a scum because I don't want to lose and it was wishful thinking at that point and I want to believe in you being right.
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Post Post #4138 (isolation #512) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:15 am

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In post 4134, Datisi wrote:
In post 4130, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 4127, Datisi wrote:because you're claiming "hey i'm *role* but i'm not actually *role*" like how tf is that not risky?
my bomb ability is pretty useless if I claim bomb
you were asking why claiming neighbourless neighbour is risky, what does that have to do with anything?
because you/skitter are bringing it up as something that indicates tw!town and I don't really understand the reasoning behind it
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Post Post #4139 (isolation #513) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:16 am

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In post 4137, Something_Smart wrote:How is it fallacious?

There is no good reason for Pooky to do it as town.
There is no good reason for Pooky to do it as scum.

Ergo, Pooky did not do it for a good reason.
well if you guys had listened to me and lynched me instead you would see town!Pooky and Datisi would start actually scum-hunting and you might be convinced Dsj is town instead of wasting a mis-elim on him.
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Post Post #4141 (isolation #514) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:17 am

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In post 4133, Datisi wrote:
In post 4129, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 4125, Datisi wrote:i'm not forgetting anything?? bugs voted for pooky when pooky was at E-2, but bugs allegedly hadn't read up to where koba unvoted pooky from E-1 to E-2, and therefore would've "accidentally hammered" pooky. i'm saying that it's within the realm of possibility for a bugs/pooky scumteam to fake that?

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If you look at bugspray ISO - it's clear they are reacting post by post and they vote me when their reread is up to Post 476 - Koba doesn't unvote me until post 525 so bugs wouldn't have known at that point I wasn't at E-1 at that point in bugs reread tho I kind of doubt bugs was counting votes at all at that point in time.
because scum!bugs is incapable of lying about how far into their catchup they are? how far ahead they've read? especially if they have a buddy in the scum PT feeding them info?
look at bugs iso and the section where he is catching up and responding to each post as he catches up

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Post Post #4143 (isolation #515) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:18 am

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In post 4140, Datisi wrote:> tw claimed something about his role that is somewhat risky and could've possibly made him get executed
> i claimed the same thing about my role
> "hey it's more likely that these are both true"

lke it's not conclusive but

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can you explain why him claiming neighbor could possibly lead to him getting executed? like I really dont get this part
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Post Post #4148 (isolation #516) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:21 am

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In post 4144, Datisi wrote:t h e y are more capable as scum than you give them credit for

@skitt, you were scum with bugs recently, do you think that's fakeable?
so you think bugscum faked almost hammering pookyscumbuddy and kept him at L-1 and urged the town to lynch him on the first day of D1?

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Post Post #4150 (isolation #517) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:22 am

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In post 4147, skitter30 wrote:
In post 4073, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Pooky nearly hammered by Bugspray accidentally,
where did this happen again?
pull up bugspray ISO and scroll down, bugs at 1:34am starts responding to posts in game and catching up - his response to post 476 was to vote Pooky - this would've been hammer if Koba didn't unvote Pooky in post 525.
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Post Post #4154 (isolation #518) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:23 am

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In post 4149, Datisi wrote:
In post 4143, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:can you explain why him claiming neighbor could possibly lead to him getting executed? like I really dont get this part
are you doing this on purpose??

like
holy shit
neighbour is a role who is in a hood and can comunicate privately with one or more other neighbours
that's the point of the role
and duck was claiming "hey i am a neighbour, a role that can communicate with another neighbour, except i am not really a neighbour becaus ei cannot communicate with anyone becuase i don't have a neighbour"
when he was already under fire
and at least someone was gonna comment "hey... that maybe.... sounds like a lie......"

Since we are only playing with 1 role from each game, it doesn't make any sense to me why a neighbor or a lover would have a neighbor/lover partner
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Post Post #4159 (isolation #519) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:26 am

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like i dont see the downside of neighborless neighbor claim, it's just an extra detail any scum could slip into their fake-claim
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Post Post #4162 (isolation #520) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:27 am

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In post 4158, Datisi wrote:
In post 4154, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Since we are only playing with 1 role from each game, it doesn't make any sense to me why a neighbor or a lover would have a neighbor/lover partner
because that's the point of the role???????

am i speaking english

is this a dream
let's say you knew nothing about this game except the setup and you were a scum making a fake-claim - is it plausible to have a neighbor without a neighborhood?
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Post Post #4164 (isolation #521) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:28 am

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like if the randomly selected game was a true love game - I'd expect there to be a lover without a lover-partner

if the randomly selected game was a neighborhood game - I'd expect there to be a neighbor without a neighborhood.

I don't see why one confirms the other or vice versa
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Post Post #4167 (isolation #522) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:30 am

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the mod randomly selected 9 games to pick roles out of and balance them right?

so if he randomly selects the true love setup - there would have to be a lover without a lover-partner

if he randomly selects a neighborhood setup- there would have to be a neighbor without a neighbor-partner.

Since these games are randomly selected - the presence of a lover without a lover and a neighbor without a neighbor is not alignment indicative in any way.
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Post Post #4171 (isolation #523) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:33 am

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In post 4073, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:since I'm getting nowhere with the Pooky wouldn't offered to get lynched defense with you guys, let's try associatives.

Let's assume for the sake of argument Pooky is scum here.

Who is Pooky's scum partner? Let's look at all the possibilities:


Skitter - Nah she's marked for death


Something_Smart - Koba put Pooky at L-1, SS asked mod a question that confirmed Pooky was lying about his role, Pooky is pushing SS as the lynch.


The_Worst - This would mean there is only 1 TPR in the game...


Raven - Bugspray interaction with Pooky on D1 was: Pooky nearly hammered by Bugspray accidentally, Bugspray putting Pooky at L-1 for a prolonged period of time, Pooky getting reamed by Datisi for voting Bugspray.


Datisi - LOLOLOLOLOLOL


So which of these players is supposed to be my scumpartner?

hint: I don't have a scumpartner I'm town.
I dunno if you read this post @skitter
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Post Post #4176 (isolation #524) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:38 am

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In post 4169, Datisi wrote:except it wasn't a "neighborhood game", it was a normal setup that happened to have neighbours in it and it was a conscious choice to include it

and ~setup synergy~ and the fact that neighbourless neighbour is a gutsy claim = duck probably town on mech (this is not conclusive ik ik)
what other choice does tw have? is he supposed to claim the cop role from that game instead?
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Post Post #4179 (isolation #525) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:41 am

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ok but why is neighbor bodyguard supposed to be "risky" like I don't get that at all
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Post Post #4182 (isolation #526) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 9:43 am

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I don't get how you can be this sure I'm scum and be wrong. If you're actually scum here I'm going to be very upset with you.
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Post Post #4196 (isolation #527) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:04 am

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why wouldn't you get pissed off if you can't get townpooky lynched as scum?
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Post Post #4197 (isolation #528) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:05 am

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@Micc


If the scum from the Mark of Death game was lynched - would the remaining scum player be able to use Mark of Death?
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Post Post #4199 (isolation #529) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:08 am

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so you're saying anger is AI for you?
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Post Post #4200 (isolation #530) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:08 am

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you've never faked anger at someone as scum?
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Post Post #4203 (isolation #531) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:10 am

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i will be beyond upset with you if you actually are scum this game datisi
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Post Post #4205 (isolation #532) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:14 am

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because i've put up with your nonstop "pooky must die" crap for 170 pages because I think surely scumDatisi couldn't be that much of a jerk but if I find out this was all faked bullshit I will literally go nuclear on you every game you come at me like this from now on to inifinity
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Post Post #4206 (isolation #533) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:15 am

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like i literally offered to die yesterday just to satisfy your ridiculous urge to kill me so you'd play the game straight
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Post Post #4208 (isolation #534) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:17 am

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nah you could be scum tunneling me and laughing and having a grand !@#$ing time derping me
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Post Post #4209 (isolation #535) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:17 am

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but I'm not going to pursue that because I'd probly get banned for 2 weeks if I did
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Post Post #4211 (isolation #536) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:20 am

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koba is a tryhard and I don't think it's out of his scumrange. I had him locktown on d1 too but SS has kind of tarnished that
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Post Post #4212 (isolation #537) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:21 am

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like I'm not even that sure of SS being scum but I really like Raven's play way better than SS and I hate losing to Lurker-Scum
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Post Post #4214 (isolation #538) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:25 am

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like if I had to make a graph of the effort level in this game rn it'd be :

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Post Post #4216 (isolation #539) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:26 am

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In post 4213, Datisi wrote:i'm not saying i wouldn't do it as scum, btw
like if it's within the bounds of the game i don't think i'd have a problem Morally doing that

just so happens i'm crap at faking emotions and tunnels and also i'm town

@skitt, you mean first 3 pages of the game or first 3 pages of koba's iso
no I'm saying it's a jerk thing to death-tunnel someone for an entire game and I'd be more ok with it coming from town-datisi who actually believed Pooky=Scum than scum-datisi who used a death-tunnel to hide himself.
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Post Post #4218 (isolation #540) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:29 am

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Post Post #4220 (isolation #541) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:32 am

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how about purple or blue then?
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Post Post #4222 (isolation #542) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:36 am

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ok is this better?

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Post Post #4223 (isolation #543) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:37 am

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In post 4217, Datisi wrote:s'called being scum for a reason
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Post Post #4225 (isolation #544) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:40 am

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nah i wouldn't be annoyed

I would be FURIOUS

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Post Post #4226 (isolation #545) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:43 am

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i would legit hurl my laptop thru a window
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Post Post #4227 (isolation #546) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 10:45 am

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my reaction if dats flips scum:

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Post Post #4236 (isolation #547) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:14 am

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In post 4228, the worst wrote:There's a small subset of this plist who enjoys playing as scum and is capable of a pretty impressive level of fluidity when responding to things as scum because they Want To and Are Having Fun
ngl i would be having a lot more fun if I was scum
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Post Post #4237 (isolation #548) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:15 am

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which is why btw I think TW/SS are the scum here

cuz they r like the only 2 who aren't in a state of constant pain from this shit game
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Post Post #4240 (isolation #549) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:31 am

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In post 4238, the worst wrote:- despite calling for your elim you were not making an effort to solve the game meaningfully; despite thinking dsj was a miselim you were still waiting for his flip to solve the game despite the fact you wanted to be elim'd before him?
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Post Post #4242 (isolation #550) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:31 am

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In post 3476, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3474, Raven Branwen wrote:
In post 3473, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3464, Datisi wrote:deadass my biggest fear rn is us executing dsjstr, him flipping scum, pooky making up some arguments about "oh i was right on the game state dsj was actually scum" and y'all believe him and town ends up losing

pedit: skitt no this isn't the scum PT
im actually pretty worried dsj is town here
Then who is scum, then?
lets say i am lynched today.

assuming tw dies in the night and flips bg and someone else confirms skitter as FM tommorrow, then I think the scum would be SS/Raven in the endgame.

if tw doesnt die and skitter dies- I think there is a strong chance tw/SS are the scum.

if datisi dies and tw lives - I also think it would be tw/SS as scum but this is the hardest scenario imo.
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Post Post #4243 (isolation #551) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:32 am

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In post 4238, the worst wrote:Saying "hey guys elim me instead" is somewhat >rand town in isolation but you also seem acutely aware of this which cancels out the meta tell. outside of that:
it's not a tell I was legit hoping to get lynched and you guys would follow my solution
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Post Post #4245 (isolation #552) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:33 am

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In post 4238, the worst wrote:- given you didn't actually try to play anti survivalistically D2 outside of weakly signalling that we should elim you while the major wagon was elsewhere, I'm not at all convinced that you actually wanted to die more than you wanted dsj to die.
it wasn't a weak signal - I was legit asking to get lynched instead of dsj
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Post Post #4248 (isolation #553) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:35 am

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In post 4238, the worst wrote:- the fact you're suddenly swinging around and wielding this as a "never elim me I'm conftown via being outside of my scumrange" based on a posting pattern which I'm pretty sure I could train my fish to do, strikes me as closet to sheer survivalism than an effort to earnestly clear yourself
I said I would never offer to get lynched as scum because it's dumbplay esp to derail a mis-elim wagon
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Post Post #4250 (isolation #554) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:37 am

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tw who's my scumbuddy if I'm scum?
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Post Post #4265 (isolation #555) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:54 am

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i think you're pretty happy about the game state
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Post Post #4268 (isolation #556) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:56 am

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In post 4255, the worst wrote:
In post 4250, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:tw who's my scumbuddy if I'm scum?
Raven > SS > dats

outside chance of me
Raven doesn't make sense because bugspray almost lynched me D1

SS doesn't make sense because he literally exposed me as lying by asking the mod a question about my role and koba interaction d1 with me is obv not s/s and also cuz i'm pushing him as the lynch

Dats is just hahahahaha ok buddy
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Post Post #4269 (isolation #557) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:57 am

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In post 4267, the worst wrote:
In post 4265, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i think you're pretty happy about the game state
I mean I literally couldn't bring myself to post in this thread while I was sick for the weekend so... not particularly?

I'm always happy-ish tho
I mean you were pretty upbeat during D2 and going into the lynch.

today you apparently feel 0 doubt at all about the lylo and you are super upbeat when an actual townside player should be feeling pretty conflicted.
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Post Post #4273 (isolation #558) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 11:59 am

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what exactly are you seeing?

You really think bugspray almost accidentally hammers his own scumpartner on early D1?
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Post Post #4274 (isolation #559) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:00 pm

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In post 4272, the worst wrote:
In post 4269, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 4267, the worst wrote:
In post 4265, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i think you're pretty happy about the game state
I mean I literally couldn't bring myself to post in this thread while I was sick for the weekend so... not particularly?

I'm always happy-ish tho
I mean you were pretty upbeat during D2 and going into the lynch.

today you apparently feel 0 doubt at all about the lylo and you are super upbeat when an actual townside player should be feeling pretty conflicted.
1) I was anxious about D2 but felt reasonably confident ish? I'm always upbeat

2) what part of this makes you think I feel 0 doubt....? the only thing I'm confident about is that you're straight up openwolfing lol. again I'm always upbeat.
how am i openwolfing
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Post Post #4275 (isolation #560) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:01 pm

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In post 4271, Datisi wrote:imagine if the team was datisi/pooky tho

i think i'd go straight into retirement because genuinely nothing would ever peak this game
if we were scum together i'd be happy dying cuz i know you'd lockwin this shit

but we're not scum together so -.-
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Post Post #4280 (isolation #561) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:02 pm

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sounds like you are reaching and you dont actually believe this happened
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Post Post #4282 (isolation #562) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:03 pm

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In post 4279, the worst wrote:the fumes are getting stronger
is this conversation actually happening

ok what is your solve Pooky?
tw/ss
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Post Post #4284 (isolation #563) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:04 pm

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In post 4277, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 4268, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Raven doesn't make sense because bugspray almost lynched me D1
and bussing doesn't exist?
how often do scum bus-hammer their partner on the first day of D1 off no information?
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Post Post #4287 (isolation #564) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:06 pm

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or we aren't fucking partners
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Post Post #4292 (isolation #565) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:09 pm

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so if bugspray isnt my partner who is my partner?
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Post Post #4293 (isolation #566) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:13 pm

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oooh i know

maybe pooky doesnt have a partner

maybe he's solo scum and Micc is his partner!?!? AM I DOING THIS RIGHT!?
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Post Post #4295 (isolation #567) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:14 pm

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this game is great

never stop being so transparently scummy TW/SS

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Post Post #4299 (isolation #568) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:16 pm

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i dont see how any town player doesnt feel even the littlest bit of doubt

like i have tremendous doubt about my solve i dont get how you are so confident in yours
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Post Post #4300 (isolation #569) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:17 pm

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like its just whack how much confidence ya'all strut around with if you're actually town in this situation

absolutely fooking wild
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Post Post #4303 (isolation #570) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:30 pm

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In post 4301, the worst wrote:
In post 4299, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i dont see how any town player doesnt feel even the littlest bit of doubt

like i have tremendous doubt about my solve i dont get how you are so confident in yours
i'm projecting more confidence than i have and even then i know that my voice is cracking

like
i think there's a reality where ss has pocketed me here
there's a reality where i'm Flat Out Wrong and it's like, raven/ss or something
there's a reality where datisi has suddenly become very very self aware of his meta and how to outplay it


but i also don't feel very incentivised to consider these realities heavily, when you're really clumsily trying to drive a miselim on me and constantly shading & shooting down everything i say?
no i'm trying to lynch SS not you
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Post Post #4304 (isolation #571) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:31 pm

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In post 3826, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:we need to flip ss today
In post 3827, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:if tw still doesnt protect any1 successfully - odds r he is last scum.
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Post Post #4306 (isolation #572) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:34 pm

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i do think you're ss partner but I'm willing to give you another night to try to block a bulllet in the off chance I'm wrong
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Post Post #4307 (isolation #573) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:35 pm

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like if we flip SS today and he's scum would you still think Pooky is scum?
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Post Post #4309 (isolation #574) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:40 pm

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i explained it in the beginning of the day
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Post Post #4311 (isolation #575) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:42 pm

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In post 3861, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 3855, Raven Branwen wrote:My personal opinion wrt to duckling’s role is that I agree with Skitter and not SS or Pooky. I still don’t really see how a marking scum confirms it but I also don’t understand why Pooky thinks that if an mfd happens again it casts doubt upon it.
mfd doesnt confirm it - SS trying to usd MFD to confirm it is what casts doubt on it.
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Post Post #4312 (isolation #576) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:42 pm

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In post 4310, the worst wrote:the fact you came into this phase knowing what you wanted to push does not make me feel any less confident that you're driving an agenda
its literally the same team that I wanted to push when I asked you guys yesterday to lynch me
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Post Post #4313 (isolation #577) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:43 pm

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like I said hey lynch me, and when I flip green this is what I think you should flip next, I'm not sure how much more weight I can put behind that opinion
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Post Post #4314 (isolation #578) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:44 pm

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this is why I wanted to die yesterday

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Post Post #4316 (isolation #579) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 12:52 pm

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btw can you explain why you protected SS on N1? like I legit don't understand why it makes sense to trade a bodyguard for a vt
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Post Post #4321 (isolation #580) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:22 pm

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In post 4319, the worst wrote:dkko made some comment about how pushing them wasn't going to go well and i thought it was a tpr soft. i tried to find it but i literally hate reading their iso so fucking much.

i threw around a few other options but felt protecting the early tpr soft was best.
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Post Post #4323 (isolation #581) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:25 pm

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so wait if you think he softed tpr why would you be ok with SS claiming VT?
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Post Post #4327 (isolation #582) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:32 pm

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im trying to figure out why you think SS is town here
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Post Post #4330 (isolation #583) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:34 pm

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you dont need to figure out my partner if you guys lynch me cuz game will be over
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Post Post #4340 (isolation #584) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:39 pm

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how is 459 scum-indicative?
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Post Post #4343 (isolation #585) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:42 pm

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i dont get how either of the Pooky quotes you pulled are scum-indicative
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Post Post #4347 (isolation #586) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:48 pm

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what I'm trying to get at with the question is whether if DonC was the scum from the masked game - whether he would be a weakened scum if we killed his partner and hence he would not be much of a threat
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Post Post #4350 (isolation #587) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:53 pm

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like at that point in the game , we knew DonC was from the masked game, so he was either a vanilla townie or a one-shot nightkill Mafia player from that game.

If the mod had indicated that the one-shot nightkill mafia player is unable to kill or can only kill once in the entire game - that would make the role imbalanced and hence DonC would likely be a VT
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Post Post #4353 (isolation #588) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:56 pm

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yes and hence why I asked the question

if I knew the scum had some MFD ability I wouldn't do some stupid vigilante fakeclaim gambit to try to get myself nightkilled
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Post Post #4354 (isolation #589) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:57 pm

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actually now that I think about it I still would do that vigilante fakeclaim cuz in a 1v1 scum can't afford to mark of death me because I'd just shoot them first if they believed I was a real vig so scratch that last point
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Post Post #4355 (isolation #590) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 1:59 pm

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duuuuuuuuckling if you're town savvvvvve me
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Post Post #4357 (isolation #591) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:05 pm

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i am town :(
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Post Post #4358 (isolation #592) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:05 pm

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i really wish I was scum tho

this game would be way easier
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Post Post #4361 (isolation #593) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:09 pm

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nobody makes sense as my partner because I literally do not have a partner
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Post Post #4363 (isolation #594) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:10 pm

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i mean the game will be over so it'll be the end of all our misery and honestly im so exhausted at this point I think that would be fine by me
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Post Post #4365 (isolation #595) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:12 pm

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like if you guys were gonna do me like this today you really should've just lynched me yesterday so I wouldnt have to suffer thru lylo like this
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Post Post #4366 (isolation #596) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:13 pm

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i was gonna do some datamining tonight on SS game history but if you're deadset on killing me im just not gonna waste any more time on this game so pls let me know thanks skitter
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Post Post #4368 (isolation #597) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:16 pm

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w i l d
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Post Post #4370 (isolation #598) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:17 pm

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i mean just let me know if you are dead set on killing me and I should stop wasting time on convincing you.

I really don't feel like spending more time on this game than I already have - I'm ready to mark it down in the lost bin at this point and prodging till the end
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Post Post #4372 (isolation #599) » Sun Aug 23, 2020 2:19 pm

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ok that's fair I guess

sorry about putting everything on your shoulders
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