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Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:35 am
by Green Crayons
"productive" as in posting something that looks substantive and contributing to the game wincon but isn't scumhunting
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:36 am
by Something_Smart
So, LOOKS productive. That's about what I figured you meant.
To whom exactly does discussing mechanics look productive?
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:38 am
by Green Crayons
lol
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:38 am
by Green Crayons
what is even with that question
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:41 am
by Something_Smart
I've almost never been told that my mechanics discussion is a good contribution to the game.
I have, however, been told that it's a distraction and a waste of time. Frequently.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:43 am
by Green Crayons
Okay.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:49 am
by word321
In post 392, Green Crayons wrote:feel like one of DDL, S_S, and Datisi gotta be scum enjoying the free conversation generator that is Hoopla's number theory
why do I not fit in the list?
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 10:53 am
by word321
In post 404, Something_Smart wrote:I've almost never been told that my mechanics discussion is a good contribution to the game.
I have, however, been told that it's a distraction and a waste of time. Frequently.
Thats a shame to hear; some ppl like more mechanic play than others. The main point tho is that everyone can discuss mechanics-its considerably easy to do as both scum and town- henceforth, an easy way to scum to seem engaged, wich on the other hand causes a lot of paranoia on ppl who mainly do that, cause they r "avoiding" more AI kinds of playstyle; this is generaly true to anything overly rational (as in based in simple, demostrable arguments of a deterministic kind, like probabilities)
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:24 am
by the worst
oh, think of yourself like a clockwork toy
you *haven't* been fully wound up yet
I'm watching though.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:25 am
by the worst
In post 353, iamausername wrote: In post 289, DrDolittle wrote:even if you are town, how do you know scum players haven't thought about your line, and have players like you in the lobby to provide them with free defense?
independently, I don't buy this line of thinking, and I don't think you should be townread for suggesting it.
really dislike this post. "I don't think you should be townread" in particular is a phrase that feels distinctly scummy to me, there's like an undertone of bitterness to it, like DrDolittle is annoyed that people have correctly identified Hoopla as town for reasons that DrD finds erroneous.
it's like a funhouse mirror version of 'you caught me for the wrong reasons'.
& i feel like S_S has acquitted himself adequately. the post that originally bothered me makes more sense knowing he was describing
67 as a 'plan' and not talking about Hoopla's initial entry. his eagerness to jump into theory discussions where, as scum, he doesn't have to lie about his true feelings is still a little concerning, but he's hardly alone on that front in this game.
VOTE: DrDolittle
badposting strike 2
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:30 am
by the worst
...oh ah
In post 369, Datisi wrote:i kinda don't get why people are giving townpoints to green for calling out the gypyx thing... like i read the explainations and i Don't Get It. i liked the fact clover also said he got wolf pings from that slot but then he said he's liked word's intro so i guess mindmeld with clover is over
what is your read on green
why do you like drdolittle so much (I also like drdolittle but I thought that was a spicy take)
oh ah
In post 369, Datisi wrote:re: 345 duck's reads
i don't know if i like or hate the fact that i can be obvtown or easy to read :/
i feel like our reads are otherwise more or less Similar hmm
@duck, can we talk about green? i'm havign trouble getting the townreads there. eli5 pls.
I enjoy it, it's a breath of fresh air.
re. green you go first <3
In post 369, Datisi wrote:i'm getting weird vibes from username
@username, do you have any townreads or something? i think you've only talked about scumreads so far (other than s_s getting better i guess)
weird vibes...oh...ah
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:32 am
by the worst
In post 370, Something_Smart wrote: In post 335, the worst wrote:but this is a fairly neat observation. i'm not really sure hoops does anything different as scum though really? i don't know her super well. i can understand why this is a positive observation fypov
I'm obviously not sure either. But I'm really struggling to see what scum-Hoopla hopes to gain from this. I don't really think that the smartest way to profit from doubling up as scum is to double up and then drop the stats immediately and announce that scum definitely didn't double-- in particular I thought the part where she announced that a double could only have occurred if she was scum was fairly towny. If she's scum, it doesn't help her if she doubled, and it doesn't help her if she didn't double, and it very well could get her pressured for trying to execute PR's.
if I'm honest I don't think I'm smart enough to correctly guess!
this might be duck scum playbook but like getting pressured for stupid reasons ealry D1 often works out well for scumbags if they can crawl out of their grave
I'm not sure how widely shared that opinion is
not sure I really want to clear an experienced/good player for diving into the fray over mechanical spec though, so to speak?
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:33 am
by the worst
can I pat you pls
important game related question
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:34 am
by the worst
In post 380, Datisi wrote:ugh i feel like i have too many "null but kinda scummy" slots right now
hoopla, do you have any non-mech reads/hot takes to offer
this game needs more content
maybe i'm not the one to talk when i keep dragging mech on
sigh
interesting, I have too many null but kinda towny slots rn.
throw me a tiered list?
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:35 am
by Datisi
(1) should i be worried that you reacted to half the things with oh ah (don't have to answer this) and (2) do you want me to Make a Triangle (please do answer this)
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:36 am
by the worst
Marquis seems..... oddly aware of own thread presence perception for having posted four times
don't @ me
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:37 am
by the worst
In post 383, Umlaut wrote:TW completely missing in [post]230 that GC answered his question makes me wonder if TW actually cares about the answer as much as he's acting.
big fan of this tell.
did you catch me explaining why I missed it yet or nah
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:38 am
by the worst
In post 385, Clover Ebi wrote:Word/Worst/Hoopla/Grumpy Cat are all good townreads for me. We've posted 16 pages in 2 days and it's super hard for me to not blur past the words to fully get my thoughts in so I might just deal with the fact I'll forever be behind so I can get my thoughts on a page. Reading all this is exhausting and I've played mostly larges!
VOTE: Green Crayon
why are you voting my strongest townread and townreading my entire nullpile ugh... explain please?
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:39 am
by the worst
In post 392, Green Crayons wrote:feel like one of DDL, S_S, and Datisi gotta be scum enjoying the free conversation generator that is Hoopla's number theory
is it bad that I don't think either of these players would avoid the temptation to chomp down on number theory nonsense as either alignment but statistically desperately want you to be right?
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:40 am
by Green Crayons
In post 406, word321 wrote: In post 392, Green Crayons wrote:feel like one of DDL, S_S, and Datisi gotta be scum enjoying the free conversation generator that is Hoopla's number theory
why do I not fit in the list?
you and tw are town leans so are exempt from the pool
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:41 am
by the worst
In post 394, Green Crayons wrote: In post 385, Clover Ebi wrote:Word/Worst/Hoopla/Grumpy Cat are all good townreads for me. We've posted 16 pages in 2 days and it's super hard for me to not blur past the words to fully get my thoughts in so I might just deal with the fact I'll forever be behind so I can get my thoughts on a page. Reading all this is exhausting and I've played mostly larges!
VOTE: Green Crayon
the stated reasons for this vote are wrong and also exceptionally uninteresting, so let's slot you as town for now
I remember liking you but not this much
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:42 am
by Green Crayons
In post 418, the worst wrote: In post 392, Green Crayons wrote:feel like one of DDL, S_S, and Datisi gotta be scum enjoying the free conversation generator that is Hoopla's number theory
is it bad that I don't think either of these players would avoid the temptation to chomp down on number theory nonsense as either alignment but statistically desperately want you to be right?
By my own estimate 2/3 of them are possibly town so it’s not exactly the AI silver bullet.
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:43 am
by Datisi
re duck & my green read
first it was a sorta "mental note to keep my eye on this slot" because i was getting good feels on ico and i know he's a Popular Early Push and i also didn't get green's reason for suspecting him
i didn't really get anything from the whole fakehammer thing because it seems like a pretty easy thing for scum to notice/push and i don't quite Get the townreads over that
and like i can maaaaybe give some vague townpoints for the umlaut take + the "there's scum in dats/s_s/drd" take but that came after the fact so
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:44 am
by the worst
In post 399, Green Crayons wrote: In post 396, Green Crayons wrote:
Umlaut isn't the only one who does catch up posts (hi yes I do it too but with multiple posts rather than a single big one), but damn the format just feels like a scum indicative tactic here.
Just so I'm not a complete ass, here, because Umlaut has suggested IRL reasons for not being as active as he might otherwise be (so the inactivity itself isn't AI). There's a sense of Umlaut's catch-up posts are more like detached observations rather than any attempt to really engage. No engagement is safer for scum because that never requires devolving into argument where you might actually have to put rubber to the road and evict a towns person based on the back of your bad reasons.
I can vibe W this but I'm kinda waiting to see if his style actually does have trajectory or if it's just...that
Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2020 11:45 am
by the worst
In post 404, Something_Smart wrote:I've almost never been told that my mechanics discussion is a good contribution to the game.
I have, however, been told that it's a distraction and a waste of time. Frequently.
I enjoy you a bunch and that's all that counts.
mech talk looking good is an intuitive feeling for like anxious/nervous scum imo; I do it when I feel uncomfortable as well (D1 of micro 960 what's good)