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So what do you think they’re going to do D3 mathblade???? Try to neighborize scum?? It was priority to link the masons together.
Yes we have information, but instead of being salty that they didn’t spew all of their info to scum just so you could join in the club, either take the info or don’t. We already have 1 scum flip, once we have 2 today you will start believing us.
And for the love of god that’s not what iioa is- superbowl9
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Everyone who is reading the threadIn post 3921, shellyc wrote:
Kill bell gangIn post 3908, PlusJOYED wrote:i read it. They said setup reasons they couldn't elaborate on? That could be a lot of things. he was right on the motion from titus. plus muh townblock
I'm not trusting Titus's side/mastina as much as A50's side. I think there might be something going on there that's not necessarily protown.
I wanna go bell today
VOTE: bell
Who’s opposed to killing bell actually- superbowl9
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WeIn post 3968, DiamondSentinel wrote:Screw it. I’ll play Math’s game because it’s a game I’ve been to interested in playing myself.
Both third parties, I want your wincons verbatim. I want to know where precisely y’all stand.
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If you think they could dont you think they would???In post 3985, Something_Smart wrote:
Can you just say them so that we can judge for ourselves whether they're very good or not?In post 3834, mastina wrote:
Okay, this is me not lying:In post 3216, MathBlade wrote:I really want to see what Mastina thinks. Mastina while great at scum isn’t the best liar.
I have VERY good setup based reasons to believe that April Ludgate's roleclaim is complete and utter bullshit.- superbowl9
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Here are your options math:In post 3999, MathBlade wrote:
This is a protown manner.In post 3998, Bell wrote:Math, I never ever want to vote you this game, but whatever your problem is, there must be a better way to communicate in a productive, protown manner.
I am explaining my dilemma.
People aren’t addressing the dilemma.
I try again.
People aren’t addressing the dilemma.
I give up and submit to sheer silliness.
Now I am getting yelled at for how I am pointing out the silliness.
Like it’s ridiculous.
1. You think all 6 of us are bsing and are playing town for fiddles. Try to lead the charge against us
2. You think we are being truthful and want to help town. Trust us.
3. Continue to hedge on both of these options and complain that we aren't releasing enough info to you, because you know better than the 6 of us which of OUR info is pro-town to release.- superbowl9
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Vigi pls end his sufferingIn post 4021, DrDolittle wrote:
I am part of the BTS armyIn post 3926, Almost50 wrote:Let me put it as simple as this: We are NOT "Army". Society are NOT "Army".- superbowl9
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Lord assist me for i am in a time of needIn post 4048, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
wait youre not town A50?In post 4046, Almost50 wrote:
I'm pretty sure I did, and so did sb.In post 3639, PlusJOYED wrote:this makes a lot of sense with the "town but not town" mason. I wish they would have revealed this day 1 but whatevs.- superbowl9
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Just a question - why would that be a bad thing? Don’t you want to npt be easy to read as a player? Why would anyone keep consistent meta W/ both alignments unless they only hope to win games as town?In post 4051, Morning Mage wrote:If you're deliberately playing to your scum meta as town here, that's your fault, not mine.- superbowl9
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Hey have you considered that gamma’s wagon might have gone a little too fast though? Idk not saying he’s town but.... wagonomicsIn post 4056, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
Btw did you ever tell us your wincon?In post 4055, superbowl9 wrote:
Lord assist me for i am in a time of needIn post 4048, Tayl0r Swift wrote:
wait youre not town A50?In post 4046, Almost50 wrote:
I'm pretty sure I did, and so did sb.In post 3639, PlusJOYED wrote:this makes a lot of sense with the "town but not town" mason. I wish they would have revealed this day 1 but whatevs.
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And this is why we dont give out info baselessly kids, even if we think it's nice to have everyone on the same pageIn post 4065, Almost50 wrote:
GDI that's NOT the issue. Lets' assume HYPOTHETICALLY that shelly is scum here. Let's assume that she did get a Cop shot. Now.. in that very situation she knows a) Her own alignment is NOT Town, b) that she did receive the Cop shot, and c) That you are NOT of the same alignment as she is.In post 3679, PlusJOYED wrote:they didn't know it was disloyal
This means that she knows she got a Cop shot from someone who IS NOT ALIGNED WITH HER, thus she KNOWS you are DISLOYAL.
You can TR shelly as much as you want based in PLAY, but when it vomes to MECHANICS she is NOT AT ALL CLEARED.- superbowl9
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It's trying to draw a neighborization to manipulate us and gain info for scum. Doesn't matter if they're claimed or not, A50 was just preempting the criticism of "gamma did it before titus claimed".In post 4092, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Then i don't really see how it's scummy A50.- superbowl9
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Yes because it worked so poorly yesterdayIn post 4128, April Ludgate wrote:The 3rd party are trying to control the game. Do not let them.- superbowl9
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No that was a total twisting of the facts. A50 was the one to actually call out gamma first for lurking while online, then once the wagon got started mena did do some pushing but hopped off for a CW. I pushed gamma a lot as well, also pretty sure most if not all of confirmed 3p was on the wagon.In post 4141, April Ludgate wrote:
I thought Menalque pushed it through?In post 4138, superbowl9 wrote:
Yes because it worked so poorly yesterdayIn post 4128, April Ludgate wrote:The 3rd party are trying to control the game. Do not let them.
I don’t remember the 3rd party pushing yesterday, so what’s this mean?- superbowl9
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Do you people read the thread? Do you not know how to use the search function? Do you not see me post every 5 minutes about someone asking about wincons? HOW DOES THIS HAPPEN HOW ARE YOU SO IGNORANT TO THE MECHANICAL REVELATIONS THAT ARE HAPPENINGIn post 4256, TheGoldenParadox wrote:
this sounds veryyy much like you do not actually share our wincon would you like to elaborateIn post 4249, Nero Cain wrote:helping town to achieve their wincon.- superbowl9
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Yes because we have the info that shades them lol why is this surprisingIn post 4277, MathBlade wrote:It was majority 3P. I find it sus that Nero is pushing for April but on latest VC isn’t voting them. Care to explain? @Nero- superbowl9
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April's reaction seems to read as anger that they were figured out to me. Keeps saying people are too "surface level", which doesn't make much sense if they want us to take their word at face value. Wouldn't they want us to be more surface level to just look at what they've said? It makes sense from a perspective of "my fake claim was so good these plebs just don't get what a good play it was"- superbowl9
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Valid. Whenever I see someone tunnel into one "solution" to get them off the hook (anger, deflection, etc.) it scumpings meIn post 4288, MathBlade wrote:
Nah. I disagree. It reads as “wtf. I am actually losing to Titus and the plan I set up to catch her is F’d and just hit their breaking point and left. I can at least see that argument as something viable though. Better than the BS spewed before.In post 4286, superbowl9 wrote:April's reaction seems to read as anger that they were figured out to me. Keeps saying people are too "surface level", which doesn't make much sense if they want us to take their word at face value. Wouldn't they want us to be more surface level to just look at what they've said? It makes sense from a perspective of "my fake claim was so good these plebs just don't get what a good play it was"- superbowl9
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I really don't want to subject myself to 3 pages of egotistical ramblings again but anything specific that townpings you about April?In post 4297, MathBlade wrote:It’s not a hook thing. I encourage you to reread some stuff. And yes that’s vague.
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This is not about trust.In post 4325, TheGoldenParadox wrote:i'm SORRY superbowl but when the 3ps talk about town wincon like it's DIFFERENT from their wincons MAYBE it's a little hard to believe
this information disparity among players with apparently the same wincon is really really frustrating to me, and i have no idea who to believe. i would have sheeped mastina but now she's a third party apparently and i have a lot of distrust in this game for people who have that much information.
i'm disappointed in this setup. i have no idea who to vote for and who to believe, and the entire third party thing has so many lies and poor clarification and withholding of information in it that it's disappointing to me.
i'll stay on april because i want to trust you. if april flips town, i will be a thousand times more suspicious of both 3p groups.
This is not about who you believe.
THIS IS ABOUT USING YOUR EYES. WHY WOULD YOU ASK WHAT OUR WINCON IS WHEN THIS INFO HAS BEEN MADE CLEAR 600000 TIMES???
HOW ARE YOU STILL CONFUSED ABOUT THE FACTIONS?? LITERALLY READDDDDD THEEEEE THREADDDDDDD- superbowl9
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Yes but scum are 3p in this soIn post 4364, MathBlade wrote:
My role PM says multiballIn post 4363, Bell wrote:I mean, we’ll find out as the nights progress won’t we?
Threats plural
Why do I need more nights to find that out?- superbowl9
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Yeah but imo that was more than enough for a setup munchIn post 4450, Bell wrote:It doesn't really matter how many reasons you have, you pretty much set up munched him instead of trying to read him.- superbowl9
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Why?? I keep seeing yall say this, but ascetic seems like such a scummy claim to me. Personally I say we elim all 3, and I would start with jjh. His play has been straight scummy when he was here and now he’s lurking. Him and DDL seem like just clear scum imoIn post 4461, mastina wrote:jjh is, mechanically, incredibly likely to be town here, to the point of being almost conftown levels of town.- superbowl9
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What reason do you have to believe the ungated ascetic claim?? jjh could have a number of roles or modifiers yhat would make this more setup likelyIn post 4498, mastina wrote:
Do you think that, with a scum 1x alien and a town Odd-night Disloyal Alignment Cop Inventor, that schadd_ in addition to the 1x alien gives scum an ascetic to further limit the number of possible guilties?In post 4465, shellyc wrote:why is JJH town
Remember, the role is odd-night, meaning can only be used half of the nights.
And scum can use an alien one of the nights.
And it takes another night for the alignment cop, if in the hands of one of the six protown nontowns, to get a result from it, and it takes scum not realizing what PlusJOYED's role is if they get it to be guiltied.
In short--the role, with just the 1x alien and the nature of the disloyal odd-night alignment cop inventor, is already hard enough to get a guilty.
And then on top of that, you think schadd_ gives the scum what amounts to a scum godfather?
It's incredibly unlikely especially given series themes of uncertain guilties but certain innocents, and a full ungated ascetic essentially being a scum godfather in this specific game.- superbowl9
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This is why i scumread april at the end of yesterdayIn post 4512, Bell wrote:Scum hate it when town are right for the wrong reasons.- superbowl9
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FTR you wouldve flipped your shit if we did thisIn post 4578, MathBlade wrote:The fact Morning Mage outed themselves instead of the hood telling you to lie and be the third was also incredibly incredibly bad. If you can read between by lines here EE.- superbowl9
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Bruh im glad yall think this wayIn post 4596, TheGoldenParadox wrote:
i'd think it means that they have some reliable way to figure out PRs and believe they can know the identity of another PR by tomorrow night.In post 4593, Almost50 wrote:But what does that hint to you?? Anyone? I'll keep my answer to myself for the meantime and let you all respond first. I want to see who thinks what, please.- superbowl9
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We are basically forcing scum to doubletap norway unless they want an inno in lylo.In post 4599, DiamondSentinel wrote:Alright. Allow me to play devil's advocate (although to an extent I believe this).
Why are we giving norway the 1 shot BP? No offense to them, but they aren't exactly doing a lot. I suspect they aren't the first pick by scum to be killed. It'll be a shame to go to El-Lo with a 50/50 for them, but like, that's what it usually is anyways.
Oh yeah VOTE: Norway- superbowl9
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Dont worry ill help everyone out once i catch upIn post 4683, Titus wrote:Superbowl9, I am confused.- superbowl9
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YES im so glad your brain functions A50In post 4604, Almost50 wrote:If all are scum then why do you even have a preference. and why the LHF of the 3? (DDL is the easiest to WAGON of all 3, regardless of anyone's alignment).
IF all 3 are Scum, we should do jjh. The one hardest to wagon and the one that cannot be investigated.- superbowl9
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Vouch activated. You literally have 1 absolute conftown and 3 basically conftown agreeing.In post 4645, Titus wrote:
Revealing those to scum is antitown. We invite conftown so they can vouch. We can't reveal to all town.In post 4631, Bell wrote:are you guys sure you should be hiding your win conditions so that we can’t veto those so you’re forced to play towards the town’s win conditions.
Can’t you guys just come down and be town with the rest of the town rather than the cool secret council with the hoods and the secret meetings.- superbowl9
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Not saying it was a correct scumread reason, but remember when I said the tirade came off as scum mad for being caught for the wrong reasons? This is what I meant by that. It was just a sidenote really so don’t look too much into itIn post 4670, MathBlade wrote:
Does not compute. April was town. Please restate.In post 4666, superbowl9 wrote:
This is why i scumread april at the end of yesterdayIn post 4512, Bell wrote:Scum hate it when town are right for the wrong reasons.- superbowl9
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In post 4688, DrDolittle wrote:Superbowl9: yes I believe that schadd designed a 23p large with 5scum that may not be able to kill and a bunch of town siding 3p that gives great power roles. What a joy that is and thus norwegian boy is innocent
Idk in what world you don’t give bp to an IC, it’s just as simple as that.In post 4693, DiamondSentinel wrote:
And that is literally what I just said they wont' care about.In post 4684, superbowl9 wrote:
We are basically forcing scum to doubletap norway unless they want an inno in lylo.In post 4599, DiamondSentinel wrote:Alright. Allow me to play devil's advocate (although to an extent I believe this).
Why are we giving norway the 1 shot BP? No offense to them, but they aren't exactly doing a lot. I suspect they aren't the first pick by scum to be killed. It'll be a shame to go to El-Lo with a 50/50 for them, but like, that's what it usually is anyways.
Oh yeah VOTE: Norway
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Hey that’s my buddy you’re talking about!In post 4741, Almost50 wrote:
Actually, you've been working your way DOWN my reads list since the day started. but that's just me.In post 4641, Bell wrote:Am I town yet- superbowl9
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We can do that tomorrow. JJH should flip today. I mean mastina setup specing him basically confirms him as scum anywaysIn post 4771, Morning Mage wrote:
i'm not averse to flipping this i guessIn post 4688, DrDolittle wrote:Superbowl9: yes I believe that schadd designed a 23p large with 5scum that may not be able to kill and a bunch of town siding 3p that gives great power roles. What a joy that is and thus norwegian boy is innocent- superbowl9
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DS is town famIn post 4776, Nero Cain wrote:y TPG instead of DS or Chemist?- superbowl9
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Thanks!In post 4788, Almost50 wrote:
I did and I relayed the suggestion as well as everything else you said.In post 4721, superbowl9 wrote:A50 can you read PT- superbowl9
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Don't worry buddy I'll protect you from the scary killers <3In post 4830, DiamondSentinel wrote:I would really appreciate if people would stop ignoring what I say.- superbowl9
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Pretty sure it's just to get his attention to check pt
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