Because T3 told us that there's a macho.
Scum want to get Macho over Doc, so if doc hits right then a town life is saved, including PRs.
The threat here to scum is the Macho plus a plausible vig, not the Doc.
The annoyance to scum here is the Doc.
I'm not taking for granted that we might have a vig, since personally I see no indication of one.
Also, strongman might be a possibility.
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:08 am
by VFP
In post 410, Egix96 wrote:I'm not taking for granted that we might have a vig, since personally I see no indication of one.
Also, strongman might be a possibility.
So this is the problem with no vig and a loyal doctor.
Why is the doctor loyal? This is a normal so no re direct or bus fuckery.
If just a scum doc, then why if there's already a macho cop?
It's not set, but it's very plausible if cw is doc regardless of alignment.
In post 348, excallq wrote:Random early (probably more than half wrong) reads on some folks.
cw: Can't really get a sense of whether or not the inactivity is tactical but the vote for me feels like it was a "safe" one in that he could just point to my earlier less-than-supremely-serious posts without having to provide much in the way of explanation or logic behind the vote, and since there wasn't any momentum behind eliminating me it wouldn't garner so much attention.
T3: Leaning towards believing the roleclaim
Jessica Rabbit: Feels like she's trying to project helpful
Ranny: Think he's been happier just getting in minor spats since attention has shifted to DGB and CW. Keeping my vote on him.
Roden: Kind of agreed with whoever said the tiff with Ranny seemed staged but he's been feeling more town lately.
DGB: Has been pushing back in a lot of directions and kinda flailing. To me it reads more purely aggressive than overtly scummy but I don't have a read on him as town either.
Anyone I didn't list I don't have a solid read on at all (insofar as any of these are remotely solid)
I’m not a fan of this. If your take on me is that I’m being helpful then where is the shade coming from? It’s akin to claiming a player who is very clearly doing townie things is trying to look like they are but not really.
I said my read on you was that you were trying to project the image of being helpful. This is different from and independent of actually being helpful.
The only thing I actually don’t hate about these posts is your take on T3. Why because these takes with the sole exception of the T3 read don’t make a lot of sense as a whole.
Considering that one of the “spats” Ranny got into was with me, why would you shade both of us here? It seems really clear that you’re scumreading Ranny and don’t think we’re aligned, so I don’t understand the thought process behind any of it besides the T3 thing.
I said nothing about you being aligned with Ranny or not. Curious why it seems to clear to you think I have that opinion.
Yes and it’s an extremely bizarre take. It looks like you want to shade me without any basis that makes any sense. What does that even mean? How is it even possible to “project helpfulness” and not actually be helpful? Why are you curious? you were shading both of us.
The bizarre takes are that me getting vaguely evil whiffs off two people means I am positively asserting those two are aligned and that stating you're trying to project helpfulness is some unfathomable concept.
Is there a language barrier? You come off like you're trying to feign being an active pro-town scum-hunter but that you aren't actually helping at all and just stirring up smoke. Which is exactly what you're doing.
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 6:42 am
by VFP
It's Friday evening so I'm out for boardgames, and even more so to get me excited, it's the start of the Euro's tonight!
I doubt I'll do much over the weekend but I'll try!
Have a great night everyone!
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:17 am
by cw357
ok so strategy idea: idk if i get killed tonight but i can just doc the vig target
so the target dies if they're scum and lives if they aren't
maybe there's an issue with that so pls point it out if there is
I saw something about there being a strongman (idk if it's true i just saw it while scrolling through the thread; forgive me if i took it out of context) so my role isn't even useful against scum kills
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:19 am
by cw357
In post 395, Roden wrote:Also, we only have three days left and the wagons all feel like they're losing steam. Are we looking at pursuing a wagon against one of DGB, Ranny, Excallq,
this is a very off-putting post much like the one i quoted a little while back
like it just doesn't strike me as a normal town thing to say, especially for an experience player
idk
showing up with this "self-clear" didn't feel quite right
i get that if it was the reverse then you all would be saying this to me
but it was just weird
titus is probably a scumread for me
i dont think it really matters tbh but i guess ill review the case against excallq because i've somewhat forgotten what it was srry
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:34 am
by cw357
ill have to check Jessica Rabbit's meta
like when i played my first game i talked kind of like that with convoluted and overly formal language
but if jessica's experienced than it becomes a little bit more meh or sus (see my wonderful descriptive vocabulary )
i should be able to be a little more active from here out because school is over bt
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:34 am
by cw357
*btw
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 8:39 am
by cw357
In post 24, excallq wrote:I am posting because it will look suspicious if I don't.
In post 152, DrippingGoofball wrote:Having said that, the traitor speculation is complete garbage, why can't they just straight up say I'm scum instead of this roundabout traitor BS?
Cuz scum are more likely to try not to draw so much attention to themselves day one whereas townies are more likely to not call for policy eliminations also day one?
honestly this is wifom
like town can use it too though so it's nai in my book
In post 51, excallq wrote:I have no self-awareness at all, scummy or otherwise.
In post 24, excallq wrote:I am posting because it will look suspicious if I don't.
I mean hello everyone.
ok i actually called this out earlier but shouldn't u have towny self-awareness, having no self-awareness sounds like scum trying to obscure their alignment
In post 348, excallq wrote:Random early (probably more than half wrong) reads on some folks.
cw: Can't really get a sense of whether or not the inactivity is tactical but the vote for me feels like it was a "safe" one in that he could just point to my earlier less-than-supremely-serious posts without having to provide much in the way of explanation or logic behind the vote, and since there wasn't any momentum behind eliminating me it wouldn't garner so much attention.
T3: Leaning towards believing the roleclaim
Jessica Rabbit: Feels like she's trying to project helpful
Ranny: Think he's been happier just getting in minor spats since attention has shifted to DGB and CW. Keeping my vote on him.
Roden: Kind of agreed with whoever said the tiff with Ranny seemed staged but he's been feeling more town lately.
DGB: Has been pushing back in a lot of directions and kinda flailing. To me it reads more purely aggressive than overtly scummy but I don't have a read on him as town either.
Anyone I didn't list I don't have a solid read on at all (insofar as any of these are remotely solid)
I’m not a fan of this. If your take on me is that I’m being helpful then where is the shade coming from? It’s akin to claiming a player who is very clearly doing townie things is trying to look like they are but not really.
I said my read on you was that you were trying to project the image of being helpful. This is different from and independent of actually being helpful.
The only thing I actually don’t hate about these posts is your take on T3. Why because these takes with the sole exception of the T3 read don’t make a lot of sense as a whole.
Considering that one of the “spats” Ranny got into was with me, why would you shade both of us here? It seems really clear that you’re scumreading Ranny and don’t think we’re aligned, so I don’t understand the thought process behind any of it besides the T3 thing.
I said nothing about you being aligned with Ranny or not. Curious why it seems to clear to you think I have that opinion.
Yes and it’s an extremely bizarre take. It looks like you want to shade me without any basis that makes any sense. What does that even mean? How is it even possible to “project helpfulness” and not actually be helpful? Why are you curious? you were shading both of us.
The bizarre takes are that me getting vaguely evil whiffs off two people means I am positively asserting those two are aligned and that stating you're trying to project helpfulness is some unfathomable concept.
Is there a language barrier? You come off like you're trying to feign being an active pro-town scum-hunter but that you aren't actually helping at all and just stirring up smoke. Which is exactly what you're doing.
hmm
this interaction didn't sound wolf/wolf but i think one of them's scum so:
there's ur garbage interactions read from cw for 6/11/21
seriously though I'm probably going to be voting for one of them and I'll suggest that we do the whole vig/doc thing on whoever isn't hanged if we don't hit scum
Cw can heal T3 and vig can shoot T3 to verify town alignment
Of course, T3 just dies if cw is lying or is roleblocked
There’s your daily does of IIOA
And why would we assume there is a vigilante?
This is just filled with holes.
Posted: Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:07 am
by excallq
In post 421, cw357 wrote:ok i actually called this out earlier but shouldn't u have towny self-awareness, having no self-awareness sounds like scum trying to obscure their alignment
In post 395, Roden wrote:Also, we only have three days left and the wagons all feel like they're losing steam. Are we looking at pursuing a wagon against one of DGB, Ranny, Excallq,
or myself
? Or is there interest on someone else?
uhhhhhhh
It's because we're the only ones with votes atm. It seems like no one wants to draw attention and heavily push one of these potential wagons over another.
srry
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