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In post 159, Val89 wrote:The why were your 148 and 149 posted to the game thread and not directed to the mod in PM?

If your true intent was to correct a newbie, rather than g ain some in game advantage, a quiet word with Nahdia who could have had a PM discussion with James would have been a better way to deal with it than publicly call him out on it, no?

In post 165, StrangeMatter wrote:Assuming I'm wrong about this, it'll look absolutely bad that I said that.

In post 162, Ythan wrote:

In post 159, Val89 wrote:The why were your 148 and 149 posted to the game thread and not directed to the mod in PM?

If your true intent was to correct a newbie, rather than g ain some in game advantage, a quiet word with Nahdia who could have had a PM discussion with James would have been a better way to deal with it than publicly call him out on it, no?

As I said in this very page, three purpose of newbie games is in part to educate about the rules. I am not litigating the matter and don't think it's necessary to send a warning to the mod in a newbie game when I can just tell them they've made a mistake.

But here you are being willfully obtuse again.

In post 164, Nahdia wrote:Scientifically speaking, the best fruit is the kiwi.

Spoiler: off topic memeage

In post 402, Ythan wrote:

In post 162, Ythan wrote:

In post 159, Val89 wrote:The why were your 148 and 149 posted to the game thread and not directed to the mod in PM?

If your true intent was to correct a newbie, rather than g ain some in game advantage, a quiet word with Nahdia who could have had a PM discussion with James would have been a better way to deal with it than publicly call him out on it, no?

As I said in this very page, three purpose of newbie games is in part to educate about the rules. I am not litigating the matter and don't think it's necessary to send a warning to the mod in a newbie game when I can just tell them they've made a mistake.

But here you are being willfully obtuse again.

Keep reading Gamma.

In post 170, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:dont scumread james for self voting and early claiming lol you guys are weird
if you read my tiny case you actually have reasons for why i didn't include them in towncore
reading back, responding to everybody

In post 177, JamesTheNames wrote:Though I do advocate early E-1s. Applying some lovely pressure early in a Day phase is much more efficient than in the middle of a Day phase.

In post 178, StrangeMatter wrote:@Dannflor can you please explain why you scumread both me and Leaven? I saw your post but you never really said why.

In post 406, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 402, Ythan wrote:

In post 162, Ythan wrote:

In post 159, Val89 wrote:The why were your 148 and 149 posted to the game thread and not directed to the mod in PM?

If your true intent was to correct a newbie, rather than g ain some in game advantage, a quiet word with Nahdia who could have had a PM discussion with James would have been a better way to deal with it than publicly call him out on it, no?

As I said in this very page, three purpose of newbie games is in part to educate about the rules. I am not litigating the matter and don't think it's necessary to send a warning to the mod in a newbie game when I can just tell them they've made a mistake.

But here you are being willfully obtuse again.

Keep reading Gamma.

I disagree about whether asking the mod to give a warning via PM is called for
when the matter is public, it impacts public opinion on the players, and as a mod you want moderator actions and duties to have as little undue effect on the game as possible
Also, in my ruleset I'm pretty sure I have something stating that dragging private moderator messages into the thread is an offense, because I feel like most times people do that it messes up the game somehow

In post 196, Leaven wrote:

In post 193, Leaven wrote:

In post 188, Val89 wrote:In other words, no, it isn't blindlingly obvious to the degree you can safely assume anyone confused is either pretending or an absolute idiot?

I guess my prior post is me saying im an idiot.

Oh? maybe this is your point, since it's not obvious what is even be contested that it's not clear cut that confused parties are clearly playing dumb or are dumb. That is, they are legitimately having a tough time following the argument. I've even lost track of the greater context. I think we're talking about the James VT claim. Dann states explains it wasn't pro-town with explanation, and refutes that James explanation of trying to move things forwards isn't more valuable than what was given up for the town by his action. James doing it as a troll never seemed to be a point and Ythan clarified as such and then you are asking why the troll wouldn't repeat themselves. I just get lost here. So if James was trolling (not claimed) and if Ythan called him a troll (didn't happen) and if Ythan had an expectation of the troll repeating himself (which he stated he wouldn't because of the posts clarifying that there was no claim of trolling), why wouldn't a troll in that hypothetical situation take the action of repeating a prior explanation that was deemed not to be a troll?

TBH, none of this seems at all productive and if there is a read to be made, please clarify cause I'm simplifying it all to whether or not James is unintentionally sabotaging town as town because he feels it worth the sacrifice to move things along and/or to experiment in a newbie game, or if it is just scum making poor excuses for said sabotage.

In post 410, Ythan wrote:In a newbie game I'd rather try to just point out the infraction if possible. Neither issue has come up again thus far afaicr.

In post 203, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:kinda sad that the towncore isnt getting much resistance, now i just feel like a weenie with thread consensus reads

In post 204, Leaven wrote:- He's dumping this game again as VT for an even future scum game (worse than last time because of how last time went)

In post 412, Gamma Emerald wrote:149 was about another game entirely
why are you trying to point out rulebreaks within other games outside of discussing ongoing games?

In post 206, cowsloveSushirolls wrote:the tinfoil theory is that leaven crafted their scumcase in a way that if james were to respond to

any

part of it they get modkilled

this isn't related to the last post I made

In post 412, Gamma Emerald wrote:because you were trying to smear him for actions within a game that isn't this one

In post 415, Ythan wrote:

In post 412, Gamma Emerald wrote:149 was about another game entirely
why are you trying to point out rulebreaks within other games outside of discussing ongoing games?

He said he did it in another game and got speedwagonned so he's going to try it again.

In post 417, Ythan wrote:

In post 412, Gamma Emerald wrote:because you were trying to smear him for actions within a game that isn't this one

Did not once smear a single person in relation to this topic.

In post 418, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 415, Ythan wrote:

In post 412, Gamma Emerald wrote:149 was about another game entirely
why are you trying to point out rulebreaks within other games outside of discussing ongoing games?

He said he did it in another game and got speedwagonned so he's going to try it again.

see the post above this
one VT dying is not enough to lose the game for town

In post 211, Salsabil Faria wrote:

In post 174, JamesTheNames wrote:

In post 172, Leaven wrote:UNVOTE: Ythan Not comfortable with this at 3. Will be back this evening.

Not at E-1 but at E-2 feels a bit weird to unvote at.

Nope? We have 2 scums remember?

In post 419, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 417, Ythan wrote:

In post 412, Gamma Emerald wrote:because you were trying to smear him for actions within a game that isn't this one

Did not once smear a single person in relation to this topic.

maybe not on purpose, but by posting that suggestion in public you essentially did so

In post 398, Ythan wrote:I'm pretty sure the whole point of newbie games and SEs is to try to keep players from making it into other games still believing stuff like that.

In post 420, Ythan wrote:

In post 418, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 415, Ythan wrote:

In post 412, Gamma Emerald wrote:149 was about another game entirely
why are you trying to point out rulebreaks within other games outside of discussing ongoing games?

He said he did it in another game and got speedwagonned so he's going to try it again.

see the post above this
one VT dying is not enough to lose the game for town

Make sure you know what counts as playing against your win condition to head off any future awkwardness.

In post 415, Ythan wrote:

In post 412, Gamma Emerald wrote:149 was about another game entirely
why are you trying to point out rulebreaks within other games outside of discussing ongoing games?

He said he did it in another game and got speedwagonned so he's going to try it again.