In post 398, Lukewarm wrote:I have a strong preference to a Chaos > Meg elim day 1.
I think that they are both about equally scummy, but Meg having actually no opinions in thread means that we don't get any associatives from a Meg flip.
Relatable opinion. If there was a choice between those two, I'd see your point. It's Flubber v Meg though and a scum vote is better than a town one.
I think that we can make Chaos happen.
Datisi and Ari both voted Chaos already, and I have not seen anything from them to think that their reads there have changed.
You+me+Datisi+Ari is already the same number of people currently voting Meg, so that pivot seems to still be on the table from my pov
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:20 pm
by Lukewarm
We still have over a week on the dead line, so I am not really ready to compromise vote
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:22 pm
by Titus
Ok. Well if it's in my murderize vote there, I am good.
I just want to end this day before I have to inform people about restless leg syndrome or the history of torture as a political investigation tool.
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:23 pm
by Titus
In post 401, Lukewarm wrote:We still have over a week on the dead line, so I am not really ready to compromise vote
Who said we must use all the time? Limit crumb potential and spam.
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 5:28 pm
by Lukewarm
I must say that the fact that we are all losing to the mod is a bit sad... smh
Spoiler:
especially a mod who has page top failed a couple of time so far
In post 335, T3 wrote:After a meta skim on Datisi I'm comfortable locktowning him.
I'm ok with
Datisti Gamma T3 Lukewarm Flubber all being town.
All the people above, please suggest my tier 2 townies tyia
I also think Aristeia should be in the not-elimming pool for today
Not entirely sure whether Flubber deserves to be in the inner circle but I’ll probably leave it be for now
btw wrt the pagetop wars, I’m a bit surprised I haven’t gotten one on accident yet
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:23 pm
by Gamma Emerald
Also would add Alchemist to the D1 pass group, looking over Luke’s list
Posted: Fri Jul 30, 2021 6:47 pm
by Alchemist21
In post 380, Lukewarm wrote:@Alchemist, thoughts on the chaos and the meg scum reads going around?
Agree with the Chaos read. As I mentioned earlier I think the oddness in Azumarill’s posts is coming from them skimming the thread and not really knowing what they’re talking about which is NAI and I’m willing to come back from V/LA and put more focus into the game before I try to pin down a read there.
In post 335, T3 wrote:After a meta skim on Datisi I'm comfortable locktowning him.
VOTE: T3
You should know not to try this around me
The vote only comes off if a satisfactory explanation is given as to why and how this happened.
T3 literally metaed the fuck out of a lurker and I coasted on that to get town to a 3p lylo where I blew it but still I trust his meta
What game was that?
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:16 am
by Datisi
In post 388, Titus wrote:Datisti Gamma T3 Lukewarm Flubber all being town.
In post 395, Titus wrote:The names I have listed are my locktowns.
uh. usually i would comment on the another iteration of my name, but this is more interesting - how do you have flubber as *locktown*? i'd understand being townie on him, but locktown?
In post 388, Titus wrote:Datisti Gamma T3 Lukewarm Flubber all being town.
In post 395, Titus wrote:The names I have listed are my locktowns.
uh. usually i would comment on the another iteration of my name, but this is more interesting - how do you have flubber as *locktown*? i'd understand being townie on him, but locktown?
When he read the intro the same way I did, he became locktown to me. I have never had that with scum.
Posted: Sat Jul 31, 2021 1:44 am
by Datisi
if titus flips red this game, we're yeeting flubber, no questions asked. and i'm thinking of jumping the ship here and voting there now anyway. titus here gives me a huge vibe of "scum realizing the wagon on buddy isn't going away on its own, jumping into action to try to save them", especially as i know she loves trying to protect her partners.
my only issue is that i want to get a better read on meg first, and i know i won't be able to do that for a bit here... sad.
In post 261, ChaosOmega wrote:
If everyone is jumping off, why would I be so desperate as scum to keep on here? Wouldn't this draw attention to me as it has?
Would you call scum "describing a reason why they scum read the person they are currently voting" as desperate? I didn't, and wouldn't. That is a strange interpretation of my words.
The desperation part is in response to your 260, saying that Chaos "feels like scum realizing that their early day 1 miselim is starting to slip away, and finally stepping in to try and keep it on the table". This is not a strange interpretation of your words.
In post 261, ChaosOmega wrote:
The jump on and off of Aristeia doesn't feel natural to me. Did you scumread her when you voted her in 171?
What does not feel natural to you? I said she did not have reads, and that was worrying to me. She gave a read list, and provided reasonings when asked.
I'm going to talk about this more further down, but it feels mechanical, like you're going through motions to look town and not actually scumhunting. It doesn't feel like you were trying to sort Aristeia, it feels like you were trying to buddy them and look productive while doing so.
In post 261, ChaosOmega wrote:As for other reads I have, Umlaut, Seanzie, Vulture, and Datisi for town, something about Gamma is pinging me, but I can't really put it into words, so I'm ignoring it for now, still think Flubber is scum, the push on Seanzie and his post about mindmelding w/ Titus reads phony.
See, this is what I find strange about your response. One of the things that I said was bothering me was that you don't have reads out there
In post 259, Lukewarm wrote:As of now he has commented on T3, and Flubber, and thats it.
And even with the two of them, he has been stand offish of taking stances. Despite having interacted with T3, I have no idea if he thinks that T3 is townie or scummy? So that leaves Chaos's only read in thread to be flubber.
And, with Flubber, he also held back...
And you see me make that point. Apparently realize that you should put some reads out out, but then also don't realize that I had a point, and therefore valid reason to pressure you for reads?
There seems to me to be a bit of cognitive dissonance between the omgus voting me reaction (which when coming from town, I find normally comes from a place of feeling like the reasons the person is scum reading you are non-genuine), while also addressing my biggest concern about you in this way.
I saw you steal that point from Flubber's 232, along with your point about me trying to stay on wagon from Datisi's 230. You can try to frame it as OMGUS, but I'm attacking you because I think you're scum.
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In post 281, Lukewarm wrote:Me: I see something I found suspicious about Flubber, so I vote him and explain my suspicions
Flubber: Explains his thought process behind the things that I found suspicious
Me: I moved my vote
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Me: I see something that found suspicious about Aristeia, so I vote her and explain my suspicions
Aristeia: Responds to the thing that I found suspicious, and provides a read lsit
Me: I move my vote
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Me: I see somethings Chaos has done that I find suspicious, so I vote him and explain my suspicions
Chaos:
~Vote: Luke
~actually I never did anything wrong, and and address the reasons Luke stated to scum read me and
~actually, wasn't Luke being suspicious earlier, when he did this other interaction with Aristeia
~(Of course, I never voiced any opinions on either Luke or Aristeia until Luke started voting me)
This doesn't feel like you're trying to find scum. It's like you're posting in a formulaic way trying to look good and can justify your actions.
I never said that I never did anything wrong, so that's a misrep. If anything, I imply the opposite in 266 when I say "I am aware with my posts up to this point that I can be suspected". And between my latest post and this one you're referencing, you hadn't yet made a complete about-face to have Ari as one of your top townreads after suspecting them for having no reads.
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285 from Alchemist feels weird to me bringing up his post count. It's not done explicitly, but it feels like he's trying to use that to show his towniness. I feel the same thing as Meg in 284 that I'm getting weird vibes from him, but I think there's a decent chance this is just playstyle difference, so I'm not really interested pushing there today.
I'm not going to be around until tomorrow around the same time. I want to look through Gamma's ISO in more detail next, but if anyone wants me to answer something in particular, feel free to ask.
