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Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:36 am
by T3
In post 359, Hectic wrote:
In post 354, Vulture wrote:I saw it earlier and went "huh, that's weird" but thought Marci was townier than her other scum games.

T3/Marci makes sense at least if Luke is town but it's hard to get over how slimy he felt early on to me.
T3's reads this game have felt very deliberate and showy, that's one of them

I'm not sure if town!T3 has big enough of an ego that he'd imply his read on marci is more important than the rest of the game's?
marci
is
only
readable
by
meta

the end.

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:46 am
by Vulture
Lol.

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:47 am
by Vulture
In post 398, Enchant wrote:
In post 397, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 391, Enchant wrote:I know how this feeling.

For mafia overall.

I don't think she is competent with gun, no offense.
And she also have notstandart game for which she get scumreaded, but actually i don't think mafia would act so outrageous.

I really think, she obvious for try to force her as shot target, because she is easy gain suspiciouns and can quickly lose game via random.
:?:
She is simple easy target.
Okay, so, who do you think are the scum scapegoating her if you think she's town?

You're spending time defending her but not offering the alternatives.

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:52 am
by Vulture
In post 400, T3 wrote:
In post 359, Hectic wrote:
In post 354, Vulture wrote:I saw it earlier and went "huh, that's weird" but thought Marci was townier than her other scum games.

T3/Marci makes sense at least if Luke is town but it's hard to get over how slimy he felt early on to me.
T3's reads this game have felt very deliberate and showy, that's one of them

I'm not sure if town!T3 has big enough of an ego that he'd imply his read on marci is more important than the rest of the game's?
marci
is
only
readable
by
meta

the end.
I was going to leave this with lol but this is provably wrong from the game alone that I linked regarding Marci earlier so...?

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:54 am
by Lukewarm
T3, sorry if I don't put a ton of stock in your op marci meta tell

Spoiler:
In post 800, T3 wrote:I can usually read marci really well hold up
In post 807, T3 wrote:Using my OP marci tell I'm putting her at strong townread.
In post 931, ArcAngel9 wrote:
marcistar
,
Mafia Goon
, eliminated on Day 3

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 10:56 am
by T3
In post 404, Lukewarm wrote:T3, sorry if I don't put a ton of stock in your op marci meta tell

Spoiler:
In post 800, T3 wrote:I can usually read marci really well hold up
In post 807, T3 wrote:Using my OP marci tell I'm putting her at strong townread.
In post 931, ArcAngel9 wrote:
marcistar
,
Mafia Goon
, eliminated on Day 3
fine lol
marci is really really really indecisive as scum and never vibereads anyone.

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:02 am
by Vulture
In post 405, T3 wrote:
In post 404, Lukewarm wrote:T3, sorry if I don't put a ton of stock in your op marci meta tell

Spoiler:
In post 800, T3 wrote:I can usually read marci really well hold up
In post 807, T3 wrote:Using my OP marci tell I'm putting her at strong townread.
In post 931, ArcAngel9 wrote:
marcistar
,
Mafia Goon
, eliminated on Day 3
fine lol
marci is really really really indecisive as scum and never vibereads anyone.
You are so incredibly wrong.

Or lying, but, you know.

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:12 am
by HockeyFan
In post 405, T3 wrote:
In post 404, Lukewarm wrote:T3, sorry if I don't put a ton of stock in your op marci meta tell

Spoiler:
In post 800, T3 wrote:I can usually read marci really well hold up
In post 807, T3 wrote:Using my OP marci tell I'm putting her at strong townread.
In post 931, ArcAngel9 wrote:
marcistar
,
Mafia Goon
, eliminated on Day 3
fine lol
marci is really really really indecisive as scum and never vibereads anyone.
Indecisiveness

Spoiler:
In post 181, marcistar wrote:
i think arts townie, i like their point about luke
:oops: :oops:
In post 188, marcistar wrote:
In post 184, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 181, marcistar wrote:i think arts townie, i like their point about luke :oops: :oops:
I have never played with Art, but Marci...

You Pav and T3 literally just saw me saw the same things about Not_Mafia in our last game

Marci, are you scum?
im not scum sorry

i like their point about u still tho, it looks reasonable for them to think.
not sure if i agree with it, but i like the thought coming from them
.


Vibes based reads

Spoiler:
In post 392, marcistar wrote:
In post 324, Pavowski wrote:Why are you scumreading Enchant?
his iso is horrible :yawn:
(, , ) + he didn't respond to too much from the pages, even though theres a decent amount to build off of so far. it doesn't look like hes pushing anything, doesnt look like hes solving.

yw for the hard carry :yawn:
In post 330, Hectic wrote:I'm suspicious of players who have voiced minimal or few scumreads, despite the fact there are FOUR scumazzers out and about from a town player's perspective. Players that fall under this category include T3, marcistar, Toogeloo, and probably others

It's probably pretty difficult for scum to voice many scumreads here, given they either have to choose in the limited pool of townies, or give scumreads on their buds
im sus?? :oops: :oops:
the reason i dont give reads is my confidence is nonexistent :roll: :oops: :oops:
In post 330, Hectic wrote:Could everyone give 3 or 4 players they think are scum, and why?
sir i like just woke up so this is a struggle for me

prob vulture, for things idk how to explain
:cool: :cool: haha gottem
Hey t3 look, some reads based on vibes!!


i dont like pavowski when hes like "based on meta marcis prob town but my gut says shes scum here anyways" something like that that he keeps bringing up to back himself up, but otherwise he seems decently fine.
In post 341, Hectic wrote:Anyways, it feel like marci is the best shot here.
Image
In post 341, Hectic wrote:Since then, she's almost seemed a little afraid to express many reads/thoughts.
prob cuz i am :oops: :oops:
In post 341, Hectic wrote:But we have tiiiimeee, so marci, if you're not scum, give us a power star; talk about your reads etc
PLS SMSSKSMSK THIS IS SO FUNNY
i dont have too much reads, and im sure not confident enough in them to do anything with it :cool: :cool:
In post 391, Enchant wrote:I don't think she is competent with gun, no offense.
rude i think im fine :roll: :roll:

can u give ur opinions on other people enchant :yawn:


In adition to what Vulture said, Marci
has
done things from your super secret tell in this game, so why arent you pushign Marci?

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:18 am
by marcistar
In post 394, Galron wrote:
In post 392, marcistar wrote:rude i think im fine
Marci, if you had the gun, how would you develop reads?
this is lowkey a scary question :oops: it makes me think ur gonna shoot me LOL pls dont
-
im not good at developing reads, but prob i would iso everyone and pick apart every single little thing i dont understand at all and try harder at that point
also just forcing people to talk :cool:
In post 395, Hectic wrote:How do you think you would be playing differently as scum, marci?
im not sure, i would prob be alot more inactive than i already am and thats saying alot :cry: i would also prob be like buddy buddying up to lukewarm :cool: cant make him sus me yknow??
also would prob try to actually push out reads more so that i wouldnt have to be attacked by 2829572938 different people.
In post 400, T3 wrote:
In post 359, Hectic wrote:
In post 354, Vulture wrote:I saw it earlier and went "huh, that's weird" but thought Marci was townier than her other scum games.

T3/Marci makes sense at least if Luke is town but it's hard to get over how slimy he felt early on to me.
T3's reads this game have felt very deliberate and showy, that's one of them

I'm not sure if town!T3 has big enough of an ego that he'd imply his read on marci is more important than the rest of the game's?
marci
is
only
readable
by
meta

the end.
pls no :cry: i hate meta
In post 407, HockeyFan wrote:In adition to what Vulture said, Marci
has
done things from your super secret tell in this game, so why arent you pushign Marci?
bestie he prob wants to buddy me or sumn :cool: :cool: i love having buddies tho

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 11:37 am
by HockeyFan
In post 407, HockeyFan wrote:
In post 405, T3 wrote:
In post 404, Lukewarm wrote:T3, sorry if I don't put a ton of stock in your op marci meta tell

Spoiler:
In post 800, T3 wrote:I can usually read marci really well hold up
In post 807, T3 wrote:Using my OP marci tell I'm putting her at strong townread.
In post 931, ArcAngel9 wrote:
marcistar
,
Mafia Goon
, eliminated on Day 3
fine lol
marci is really really really indecisive as scum and never vibereads anyone.
Indecisiveness

Spoiler:
In post 181, marcistar wrote:
i think arts townie, i like their point about luke
:oops: :oops:
In post 188, marcistar wrote:
In post 184, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 181, marcistar wrote:i think arts townie, i like their point about luke :oops: :oops:
I have never played with Art, but Marci...

You Pav and T3 literally just saw me saw the same things about Not_Mafia in our last game

Marci, are you scum?
im not scum sorry

i like their point about u still tho, it looks reasonable for them to think.
not sure if i agree with it, but i like the thought coming from them
.


Vibes based reads

Spoiler:
In post 392, marcistar wrote:
In post 324, Pavowski wrote:Why are you scumreading Enchant?
his iso is horrible :yawn:
(, , ) + he didn't respond to too much from the pages, even though theres a decent amount to build off of so far. it doesn't look like hes pushing anything, doesnt look like hes solving.

yw for the hard carry :yawn:
In post 330, Hectic wrote:I'm suspicious of players who have voiced minimal or few scumreads, despite the fact there are FOUR scumazzers out and about from a town player's perspective. Players that fall under this category include T3, marcistar, Toogeloo, and probably others

It's probably pretty difficult for scum to voice many scumreads here, given they either have to choose in the limited pool of townies, or give scumreads on their buds
im sus?? :oops: :oops:
the reason i dont give reads is my confidence is nonexistent :roll: :oops: :oops:
In post 330, Hectic wrote:Could everyone give 3 or 4 players they think are scum, and why?
sir i like just woke up so this is a struggle for me

prob vulture, for things idk how to explain
:cool: :cool: haha gottem
Hey t3 look, some reads based on vibes!!


i dont like pavowski when hes like "based on meta marcis prob town but my gut says shes scum here anyways" something like that that he keeps bringing up to back himself up, but otherwise he seems decently fine.
In post 341, Hectic wrote:Anyways, it feel like marci is the best shot here.
Image
In post 341, Hectic wrote:Since then, she's almost seemed a little afraid to express many reads/thoughts.
prob cuz i am :oops: :oops:
In post 341, Hectic wrote:But we have tiiiimeee, so marci, if you're not scum, give us a power star; talk about your reads etc
PLS SMSSKSMSK THIS IS SO FUNNY
i dont have too much reads, and im sure not confident enough in them to do anything with it :cool: :cool:
In post 391, Enchant wrote:I don't think she is competent with gun, no offense.
rude i think im fine :roll: :roll:

can u give ur opinions on other people enchant :yawn:


In adition to what Vulture said, Marci
has
done things from your super secret tell in this game, so why arent you pushign Marci?
Wait ignore the vibes based reads things. i misread t3's post

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:46 pm
by T3
I mean like scumarci never vibereads.

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 2:25 pm
by marcistar
r u sure

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 2:53 pm
by HockeyFan
In post 86, T3 wrote:Alright I'm getting an avatar when I am on my laptop next HOLD ME TO THIS
Lim all liars
T3 wrote:I mean like scumarci never vibereads.
Bruh why are u making a read on someone based on meta alone. This feels very similar to your metareading of LLD in Newbie 2071 in which u flipped scum

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:07 pm
by HockeyFan
HockeyFan wrote:
In post 86, T3 wrote:Alright I'm getting an avatar when I am on my laptop next HOLD ME TO THIS
Lim all liars
T3 wrote:I mean like scumarci never vibereads.
Bruh why are u making a read on someone based on meta alone. This feels very similar to your metareading of LLD in Newbie 2071 in which u flipped scum
Posts like these are what im talking about btw

Sorry i forgot to mention it earlier

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:57 pm
by Hectic
I'd be disappointed if at least 2 of T3/marcistar/Pavowski weren't scum

We'd likely be in a good position if those 3 were the next 3 shots

Possibly a 5 town, 2 mafia situation

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 5:05 pm
by Hectic
In post 367, Pavowski wrote:Maybe it's just my take on this setup but I don't think it makes sense to ask for the gun today as town

But then I have to WIFOM myself down the drain. Is Toog asking for the gun hoping to get the gun? Or are they asking for the gun hoping they won't get it?
In post 370, Pavowski wrote:
In post 365, HockeyFan wrote:All of Pav's reads seem sheepy and based on other peoples reads which could be scum sheeping town here. "Hockey's play is weird but I like T3's read on it so I'm inclined to agree that Hockey feels town for now" is an example from 336 is an example. Also I dont really like 337 since that post implies hes wiling to keep all of his options open and not commit hard to a TR/SR.
This is just another one of those weird posts from Hockey. The thought process just doesn't make sense to me. You're welcome to SR me for "not committing hard", but, seriously...

Who, playing Mafia, doesn't keep their options open?
In post 399, Pavowski wrote:The chaotic energy of Marci's 392 is just :eek:

But specifically this:
marcistar wrote:
In post 341, Hectic wrote:But we have tiiiimeee, so marci, if you're not scum, give us a power star; talk about your reads etc
PLS SMSSKSMSK THIS IS SO FUNNY
i dont have too much reads, and im sure not confident enough in them to do anything with it :cool: :cool:
Do not like this response at all. Surely you have *something*?
I wasn't a fan of any of these last 3 posts from Pav

The Toog assessment looks more for show rather than him actually trying to draw anything meaningful from it
The defense against Hockey is bad imo
The dig at marcistar is also strange since marci does actually give *something* for reads if you look further up in that post of hers, she just included it in a response to one of my earlier questions

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:01 pm
by marcistar
In post 414, Hectic wrote:I'd be disappointed if at least 2 of T3/marcistar/Pavowski weren't scum
bestie idk about the others, but im literally town :cry:

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:21 pm
by HockeyFan
Marci, I probs missed it but if you had the gun who would u shoot(Other than Enchant)

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:32 pm
by marcistar
In post 417, HockeyFan wrote:Marci, I probs missed it but if you had the gun who would u shoot(Other than Enchant)
vulture :cool: :cool:

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:40 pm
by Lukewarm
Doing isos, and enchant feels like someone who thought they were signing up for a meme game and just really wanted to get the gun so he could just shoot away, and then slowly realized that ~half the lobby was taking the game seriously, and has resigned himself to a proper mafia game

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:40 pm
by Lukewarm
In post 419, Lukewarm wrote:Doing isos, and enchant feels like someone who thought they were signing up for a meme game and just really wanted to get the gun so he could just shoot away, and then slowly realized that >half the lobby was taking the game seriously, and has resigned himself to a proper mafia game
ebwop

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 7:53 pm
by marcistar
In post 419, Lukewarm wrote:Doing isos, and enchant feels like someone who thought they were signing up for a meme game and just really wanted to get the gun so he could just shoot away, and then slowly realized that ~half the lobby was taking the game seriously, and has resigned himself to a proper mafia game
where

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:16 pm
by Lukewarm
In post 421, marcistar wrote:
In post 419, Lukewarm wrote:Doing isos, and enchant feels like someone who thought they were signing up for a meme game and just really wanted to get the gun so he could just shoot away, and then slowly realized that ~half the lobby was taking the game seriously, and has resigned himself to a proper mafia game
where
What do you mean, where? thats like the whole iso

There is the "this is a meme game " phase:
7 - votes for the confirmed town
23 - asks for the gun
26 - scum claims
31 - asks for the gun again

The "is this not a meme game?" phase
35 - sheeps some votes
139 - starts thinking of how to strategically play the game
250 - can we just start shooting?

The "this is an actual game :facepalm: " phase
267 - thoughts on Toog
288 - pressuring me over a question I asked you
302 - pointing out that T3 has too many town reads, and asking him why he has not questioned it
322 - comes out with a town read on you
386 - starts to worry that if he gets the gun too late, compared to getting it super early, he could be the one to lose for the town
388 - starts pushing his scum read
391 - town reads you some more, and is worried that you are just lhf this game

Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2021 8:17 pm
by Lukewarm
There is like an arc in his iso, where it seems like his mindset for this game changes over time

Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2021 12:41 am
by Pavowski
In post 414, Hectic wrote:I'd be disappointed if at least 2 of T3/marcistar/Pavowski weren't scum

We'd likely be in a good position if those 3 were the next 3 shots

Possibly a 5 town, 2 mafia situation
There very well could be 2 scum there, I'm less confident in my TR on T3 over time.

Sorry you didn't like my last 3 posts. Let me elaborate and clarify.

Toog is still in null and I could read them asking for the gun either way. I'm still leaning scum.

I didn't particularly feel I was playing defense against Hockey, moreso stating my philosophy.

And Marci, well, it looks like you agree with my conclusion on that slot if not my reasons, so I'll take it.