mini theme 2229: MBOS 13 schweppes' pulpy potions daya 5

[Dwlee99]

I still want the world where datisi is town.

[Dwlee99]

Norwee convince me that you can't be teamed with t3?

[Dwlee99]

Yes norwee it is necessary to swing my vote

[Dwlee99]

Mastina can you make your decision soonish? I wanna make mine after you

[Dwlee99]

Does it look like I need a manifesto? You said you and t3 aren't paired. Quote some things, I'm not asking for much...

[Dwlee99]

Bruh

[Dwlee99]

Well anyway it's 3:30am here cya in the morning

[Dwlee99]

Sorry about your bus

[Dwlee99]

I believe aristeia is Pooky.

[Dwlee99]

Why can't datisi be scum with t3/norwee @mastina?

[Dwlee99]

I don't like when replace outs function as alignment-indicative information

[Dwlee99]

Regardless though I think I'm just waiting for mastina to prove to me she isn't evil

[Dwlee99]

Norwee you still haven't provided any evidence that you and t3 aren't partnered and Mastina's reasons for that were bad.

[Dwlee99]

See the thing is that unless mastina is scum I'm p sure RCE has to be scum because associatives say no norwee/dats team. So we have

Norwee/T3
RCE/Aristeia

With left over mastina and datisi. So if mastina is town then it has to be RCE/Ari unless scum is voting scum here. I forget why Ari/norwee isn't a pair but the only world I can see RCE being scum is either the Ari/Norwee world or the Norwee/Mastina world. I think I'm pretty obviously town by associatives so I think these make sense to everyone

[Dwlee99]

RCE being scum

This part needs a not

[Dwlee99]

Dats I kinda feel like you're scum fmpov

[Dwlee99]

Cause if you're not scum with Norwee and mastina is town then norwee is voting scum and Ari is scum probably so you'd be scum?

[Dwlee99]

I'm not voting RCE cause I want to see what Dats and Mastina do

[Dwlee99]

How do you think I'm scum with Norwee/t3 when this entire day phase is them trying to convince me they're town

[Dwlee99]

Ari I'm pretty sure I'm gonna be the last decider unless Datisi ends it early cause mastina seems like she has her mind made up

[Dwlee99]

I already pointed out on day two I thought t3 would get pained

[Dwlee99]

Did we ever figure out who murderized fairy?

[Dwlee99]

So your solve is RCE/Ari/T3?

[Dwlee99]

ಠ_ಠ

how long have i been saying that now?

[Dwlee99]

jesus fuck i can't wait for this to be norwee/mastina/dwlee and i turn out to be a complete fucking idiot again

Wouldn't RCE be dead?

[Dwlee99]

I think all of the scum are voting right now.

[Dwlee99]

Bingle
Green cap
Norwee

Fairy
Limit
T3

Mastina
Emperor
RCE

My middle is like town leans but calling the scum team is unlikely so I'd reeval in there if people in bottom list flipped town but I'd think t3 is scum over limit rn but I'm sort of hazy on it if that makes sense.

I hope it is RCE/Ari/T3 cause then these reads are awesome

[Dwlee99]

Datisi wanna kill RCE?

[Dwlee99]

I was trying to be coy but p sure mastina is just town and I want to believe datisi is town so that means RCE scum probably

[Dwlee99]

But anyway the only team where RCE is town is Norwee/t3/Ari but like why would that be the team y'know what I mean

[Dwlee99]

Okay so datisi I think you're town cause you're awesome right. And mastina town cause she is. So then three scum are voting. Cause I'm not scum. Okay so the only world where RCE is town then would be norwee, t3, and Ari being scum. But if that isn't a thing then it's just RCE

[Dwlee99]

From ari's POV I'd probably think Norwee is a bus vote on RCE right now.

[Dwlee99]

RCE town implies t3/norwee scum. The problem then is just finding the final scum, and if it isn't you or mastina it is Ari.

[Dwlee99]

About to vote cause mastina is gonna do it anyway

[Dwlee99]

Or maybe I'll wait a day idk

[Dwlee99]

You have to wait for dats/mastina hammer anyway lmao

[Dwlee99]

Okay so datisi I think you're town cause you're awesome right. And mastina town cause she is. So then three scum are voting. Cause I'm not scum. Okay so the only world where RCE is town then would be norwee, t3, and Ari being scum. But if that isn't a thing then it's just RCE

does this imply your solve is rce/ari/t3? like, if you were townreading me, why were you surprised to see that that's my solve? like why were you townreading me for then?

I wasn't surprised I was asking. Recency bias made you fall in my reads but you're back and townie so now you're back up

[Dwlee99]

Ari did you read this day at all. Zero chance I'm scum here lol

[Dwlee99]

Scum team is probably either Norwee/Mastina/T3 or Ari/RCE/(GCB/T3)

@datisi I had this before and I still believe in it I think

[Dwlee99]

Even assuming mastina is town here, why can t3 not be partnered with Ari or emperor?

Case against t3 is I feel like he is trying to force GCB and I to 1v1 and despite acknowledging that RCE and I can never be partnered by responding to my posts that he read those quotes he still acts like it could totally definitely be a thing

T3 even said he had a meta read on the way I interact with partners that doesn't hold to his current idea that I could be partnered with RCE

[Dwlee99]

Also Pooky completely has my number to make me townread her so I have to resist the Ari lure

[Dwlee99]

Well I know I'm town so why don't you vote RCE

[Dwlee99]

We can do a quick hammer test for funzies

[Dwlee99]

Tbh don't understand how you can think I'm scum with Norwee/t3 unless you've ignored our interactions all game. I mean I know you're like oh words don't matter blah blah but there's also where I pushed t3 before?

[Dwlee99]

I made a t3 counterwagon to limit at one point based on something I thought I may have caught t3 on and idk if you hadn't replaced in or weren't paying attention but I think it is pretty clear I can't be scum with him.

[Dwlee99]

And like today I came in thinking mastina!scum and arguing with Norwee and T3 about how their read was based on basically nothing

[Dwlee99]

Because maybe I'm wrong about datisi and that would be embarrassing to lose at this point when I feel better about RCE

[Dwlee99]

Because maybe I'm wrong about datisi and that would be embarrassing to lose at this point when I feel better about RCE

[Dwlee99]

No

[Dwlee99]

I also spent part of this day questioning mastina locktowning norwee/t3 as town which I don't know why I would be trying to get mastina to question that if I'm scum unless I'm like super awesome at setting up anti-associatives

[Dwlee99]

From an outsider's POV
Norwee and GCB are town.
Ignore mastina for the moment.
Scum in Dwlee/RCE.
Ari and I are seither both scum or one scum, deoending on mastina's alignment.
This feels wrong.

Your idea for me scum is that I spent yesterday pushing none of the 3 town all with wagons but instead tried to counterwagon anything else.

And that entire sequence honestly makes me feel like maybe emperor was town and you/mastina/rce are the scum.

[Dwlee99]

Also saying that Norwe posted no content which is uh false.

Being wrong is scum because?

-S

The word lying comes to mind.

VOTE: t3
I don't think town!t3 makes this post

Here is where I tried to start a limit counterwagon

[Dwlee99]

Mastina convinced me to

[Dwlee99]

if mastina convinced you T3 is scum then why are you telling Datisi that your solve is ari/rce/t3?

No she convinced me to hammer limit

[Dwlee99]

I mean you can frame my play however you want. Doesn't make it what's actually happening

[Dwlee99]

If you were Norwee you can argue I was feeling out eliminating t3/norwee for the win as part of a solve with you and RCE.

[Dwlee99]

Also present and not hammering

[Dwlee99]

I pretty much told myself I'd be voting whatever Mastina is so expect hammer within about two hours. Will do it after my next class essentially

[Dwlee99]

Last time I tried to long con I hammered within five minutes so no

[Dwlee99]

If norwee is bussing this game state is possible with you town. Not that I think this is what is happening though

[Dwlee99]

Game ends when a day starts with mafia having parity. Mod had it in a mod note earlier

[Dwlee99]

I wonder if scum could have setup two kills tonight to win. Probably me and Aristeia or me and mastina. I'd like doctor if possible.

[Dwlee99]

Don't think eod counts as day but idk

[Dwlee99]

We will still be in ELO weary

[Dwlee99]

Me harmography norwee tonight

[Dwlee99]

So if town gets limmed then the game would be over?

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: RCE
Night night friends

[Dwlee99]

Actually I'm watching mastina probably

[Dwlee99]

Why are you trolling them

[Dwlee99]

If this flips town kill t3 or norwee thx.

[Dwlee99]

God now I'm being trolled

[Dwlee99]

i'm just the world's worst troll
for reals though, i'm town

Famous last words

[Dwlee99]

Am I supposed to think mastina is scum here. Will mald if so

[Dwlee99]

Uh that was for sure hammer

[Dwlee99]

For sure troll

[Dwlee99]

Did scum just not have pain potions lol

[Dwlee99]

If scum didn't have pain potions then quickhammers weren't going to happen yesterday, meaning your flip wouldn't confirm norwee anything.

[Dwlee99]

Ari said night would have happened. RCE had one pain damage done to him already. I think that scum can't quick hammer there because if they had RCE dies and we have no guarantee that scum had enough pain potions to make a kill happen (it's also possible they wouldn't want to risk the person they targeted being jailkept/doctored.

[Dwlee99]

RCE-Aristeia-Dwlee: Possible, although it requires Dwlee to have hammered RCE and to have voted RCE in prior day phases.

This should be ruled out seeing that I was begging people to vote RCE or Emperor day 2. I don't think I have the guts to bus like that.

[Dwlee99]

The issue with t3 imo is how he tried to setup a future datisi/me 1v1.

[Dwlee99]

I went onto limit because game literally wouldn't progress without that going through.

There is 1 scum in you/GCB almost no matter what here.

[Dwlee99]

Why

[Dwlee99]

Oh if it wasn't obvious btw I lied about having a harmography yesterday on Mastina so that scum wouldn't want to throw potions at her. I had a pain potion and didn't use it.

[Dwlee99]

I don't think scum could quickhammer yesterday because RCE was at one health and scum may not have had enough pain to kill anyone.

[Dwlee99]

Is is still Aristeia? Yeah probably

[Dwlee99]

But if we had eliminated wrong yesterday and gone into night with 3v3 town/scum it would just be an loss for town right? Like it doesn't matter what night actions town or scum have, shouldn't it just be over at that point?

RCE had one health left from me paining him and we don't know if scum had a way to protect him from dying.

[Dwlee99]

I'm pretty sure night would happen but idk

[Dwlee99]

If t3 got blocked I'm pretty sure no result is what would make sense

[Dwlee99]

Anyway mastina town, norwee/datisi has at least one town. Meaning there is scum in t3/aristeia.

[Dwlee99]

So
VOTE: Aristeia

[Dwlee99]

I didn't
also i harmod ari to see if i could confirm someone's action, got no result

Well he said no result not no one seen?

[Dwlee99]

Well if mastina or you is scum or if ari is town then yes possible.

[Dwlee99]

Goodbye

[Dwlee99]

Results y'all?

[Dwlee99]

Here's another thing though. I don't think Ari is scum with RCE.

It was sort of a test and RCE failed. Ari had a highly emotional post towards RCE and RCE kind of ignored it but I know Ari can fake those emotes

This was the explanation

[Dwlee99]

It was testing how RCE would respond to Ari.

[Dwlee99]

Huh

[Dwlee99]

That was no meta beyond "I know Ari can do x thing"

[Dwlee99]

I have (1) doctor

[Dwlee99]

Counterpoint: what if my reads list earlier was perfect except you and t3 swapped places

[Dwlee99]

Bingle
Green cap
Norwee

Fairy
Limit
T3

Mastina
Emperor
RCE

My middle is like town leans but calling the scum team is unlikely so I'd reeval in there if people in bottom list flipped town but I'd think t3 is scum over limit rn but I'm sort of hazy on it if that makes sense.

This list

[Dwlee99]

Datisi if I was evil I think I'd want you gone first cause I'd be worried you'd obvtown into killing me

[Dwlee99]

T3/Datisi do either of you have pain potions

[Dwlee99]

I feel slightly better now. (Emphasis on

slightly

...)

So Dwlee. Who do you think we should eliminate first today?

T3 cause see above about my list and how I want to be right

@Datisi see above and also above that where I said counterpoint to Mastina calling you the last scum

[Dwlee99]

Dude if scum is me I deserve Don Corleone

[Dwlee99]

Hard bus both partners day two. Still have a town mislim go through. Fakeclaim that I pain potioned RCE and not get caught. Don't use or don't get caught pain potioning anyone else in the game

[Dwlee99]

Convince three townies to mislim the person scumreading me in a rage of justice through plurality while my buddies watch

[Dwlee99]

Fake interactions with Aristeia well enough to pseudoclear me. Convince literally all living players I must be town. Go for a long game instead of acting scummy so mastina votes you.

[Dwlee99]

D3 as scum I early vote RCE and then try to appear subtly scummy like the Norwee/Dwlee/t3 team was true

[Dwlee99]

Also I've seen scum do this thing before. See TTTT where Pooky went through with a plan to lim in town/his buddy when losing his buddy made it essentially autoloss. Then after that he still was trying to convince me to get Datisi when I was like 90% clear and the next day he would lose anyway

[Dwlee99]

Booo

[Dwlee99]

Does anyone actually have pain potions

[Dwlee99]

What?

T3 deaded first

[Dwlee99]

I've explained

[Dwlee99]

Also https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=87111 here is the game that gives me Pooky trust issues

[Dwlee99]

We wait

[Dwlee99]

How am I not doing much

[Dwlee99]

Spoiler:

votey 1.final !

Titus (4):

Dwlee99, Fairy Circle, NorwegianboyEE, Green Cap Boys

Fairy Circle (3):

RCEnigma, mastina, Bingle

The Limit Does Not Exist (1):

The Emperor

T3 (1):

Titus

not voting (2):

The Limit Does Not Exist, T3

with 11 alive, it evidently took 4 to cause someone to Wet.

modorator notes

• deadline passed after post 1487

VCA of a town hunting town vote count is all the scum being off main wagon. Also scum!GCB probably wants me to kill Titus overnight which looks bad for me/norwee/t3. T3 stays off wagon cause optics of voting Titus here

[Dwlee99]

Norwee and me were gungho Titus is saying nonsense and G3 hemned and hawed

[Dwlee99]

Eh I'd be convinced by my argument. Also that's literally norwee's you!scum argument

[Dwlee99]

Also datisi can you full claim your potions

[Dwlee99]

Yo same

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: t3

[Dwlee99]

Lol remember when schadd said Pooky was town

[Dwlee99]

Umlaut***

[Dwlee99]

I deepwolfed that game through like five truth checks lol

[Dwlee99]

This is like when we yeeted pav to outerspace

[Dwlee99]

Thank god

[Dwlee99]

That game was really close and I enjoyed it a lot. Gg everyone and thanks to scum for making it that close

[Dwlee99]

Was there a dead thread / estimate on mafia thread being released?

[Dwlee99]

So bingle no potion and no see other potion. Not mafia

Limit give good gut feeling. Not mafia

Rce bad vibe >:(

How is this not convincing smh

[Dwlee99]

Norwee is correctly reading me when if he was scum I think he could have pushed me, T3 seems "sorty" this game.

Tbf my defense of t3 was this

[Dwlee99]

Only you believed me