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[NorwegianboyEE]

Is scum in T3/RCE after all?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m not just gonna change my vote though.
Slam dunk my ass. I wanna see what they have to say.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Being impulsive to a fault is something i am at least TRYING to minimuze.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also Emperor turning into an anime meme account that posted two gifs and then walked away is REALLY tanking my read on their slot.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I mean people scumclaim as town all the time, but yes.

-S

>_>

so how sure are you that t3 is scum again?

-D

Honestly i get bad vibes. I feel like Limit could be scum that went way too hard on this.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Provable[/v] eg. x flipped town but they actually flipped scum or
x claimed odd night not even night

What the fuck is this tho

[NorwegianboyEE]

We’re all cassanovas

[NorwegianboyEE]

This game is like Hamlet and we’re all overly dramtic caricatures and drama queen

[NorwegianboyEE]

At least i’m self-conscious about it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You could argue i’m just posting garbage tho.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Provable[/v] eg. x flipped town but they actually flipped scum or
x claimed odd night not even night

What the fuck is this tho

But that’s cus i’m pea-brain that atruggles to read this post.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Aristeia is catfishing people on the internet.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Datisi you should have hydra’d with me. You’d tell me to shut up every day of the week.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also why is the tongue emoji an creepy pervert

[NorwegianboyEE]

Idk i don’t feel like T3 scum claimed here.
Seems like an bit of an exaggeration.

[NorwegianboyEE]

...but I

didn't

. If that was my plan why didn't I go through with it?

-S

I’m just gonna butt in here and say that i got the impression that you were basically suggesting it, but in an manner where you can also backtrack and say: "i never did say exactly that" but when looking back on the context in which it was said, it is clearly something you implied.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You said i was doing nothing.
The context: i’ve been maning a lot of posts.
Conclusion: I am scum that’s posting a lot of meaningless babble.

What else would your post imply?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Since you were also describing this in your deepwolf narrative that’s the obvious thing to assume.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hello fellow citizens, I am here because I heard there was beautiful people and fine refreshments.

May I receive a quick de-brief before I attempt to immerse myself in the details?

So i heard you liked meme accounts…

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mastina i know you weren’t keen on theorycrafting pre-flip, but do you think T3 is highly likely to be town if Limit!scum based on this push here?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think i’m starting to feel settled on the idea of Limit!scum.
Mastina and GCB are asking a lot of legit questions and S_S feels like they are struggling to get out of the PoE box but just can’t.

[NorwegianboyEE]

What is MH?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh is it mental health?

I refuse to consider anyone as more or less likely scum based on that. I think they are scummy and i’m not going to reconsider because they are taking medications or whatever, they can still be scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

you should ALWAYS assume good faith when thats involved.

You should treat it as NAI.
Not necessarily "good faith" as even if there is an real condition hindering their play it may be used as an excuse.
For example if i rolled scum and got an huge headache, then i get accused for playing too passively to be town. I can claim it’s because i have an headache and not post for 5 days. Sure i’d do the same as town but is it "good faith" in that scenario?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Can’t speak for the others, but i certainly wouldn’t mind if you did.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh no, none of Dwlee/T3/Norwee was the elimination.
Titus is probably fuming in the dead thread.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Get RCE next.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh i thought you were just scum when you said gg like that.
Are you claiming to not be?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I also like to play as if i’m town until the very final moment. Even if i know i am dead. Because i know that keeping the uncertainty alive makes it less easy for town to plan night actions and discuss the implications of the flip before the thread locks.
So i agree with Mastina’s policy.
Ain’t dead until they dead.
Of course sometimes it’s obvious what they are anyways.

[NorwegianboyEE]

K it’s prob town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok you don’t need to compete for most toxic. We get it, you were town. We all dumb and suck etc etc

[NorwegianboyEE]

I want to care and be passionate about this game so it’s sad when some slots say "f this game"

[NorwegianboyEE]

I was going to fire off a rant here about how I hate this game and have no motivation or investment for it, but you have convinced me not to do it as it would be too toxic, congrats.

I don't usually like to be this direct... but if you truly feel this way then why are you here?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Rough.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hopefully everyone keeps up their morale. I will think about this game when i'm working my shift tommorow.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It's hard to begin when knowing it's ElO and 3 scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Aristeia are you seriously just going to run away and hug Datisi instead of trying to remotely read any slots using your own independent solving methods.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Tell me your reads please.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Before Datisi get’s here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

i just want him to promise me he's town

Yes that sounds very helpful >_>

[NorwegianboyEE]

How hard was eliminating RCE yesterday? I’d say quite but i might be remembering wrong. Either way i feel like i should have trusted my gut and kept pushing there.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwee > T3 > GCB >> Aristeia ~= RCE >>> Dwlee.

Can you elaborate a bit on why T3 is so high and Dwlee so low?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Actually i do think T3 has done a lot of things i felt was townie, but i’m more curious about Dwlee. It’s a bit of an murky slot for me right now, where i just don’t know if they’ve been town or scummy, but just like inbetween and really hard to sort.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m not good at wallposts :/

[NorwegianboyEE]

If you just said: "Dwlee kinda like ODM mafia where he was scum because X and Y" that would be enough for me to comprehend. ^^

[NorwegianboyEE]

My policy with Mastina here is that i still fully believe they are town, and if i am wrong and they pocketed me, they can have that win. And i’ll be more cautious about them in the future. But as of now i am not voting them today, ever.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think Datisi could in fact be scum here, because with townreading Mastina and T3 it really doesn’t leave much other options. I also dislike Retti’s outburst yesterday because it was just blatantly bad sportsmanship behaviour and i don’t see the town motivation in it.

My preferred vote for today however is RCE as i believe they have the highest chance of flipping scum. And finding the remaining two should be easier once at least he is hopefully confirmed scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Not an fan of Aristeia either, i liked their previous slot but this new one is just awful and not trying to solve at all.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Actually i’m going to be blatant here.
Mastina, T3, Dwlee are slots i do not want to vote. I think Dwlees posts here are pretty townie, as well as their reaction to Mastina.
So what does that leave?
GCB, RCE, ARI

[NorwegianboyEE]

Can Mastina be BoP'd?

No.

[NorwegianboyEE]

RCE is the best flip for today.

CHANGE MY MIND

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t care about claims from previous night btw. But my suggestion for our next one is to poison Ari to death if RCE flips scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

RCE is the most confident flip i have in mind, but yes. In theory the order doesn’t matter. As if the PoE is wrong at all it’s an loss due to ElO.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Lol it's so obvious norwee is going to end up throwing this game, cheers

-R

What an absolutely petty and disrespectful post.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Are you claiming it was townie?
For you to say "screw you all" and walk away?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Your slot is scummy by PoE because you’ve just been there and made forgettable pushes or making excuses and leaving.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I would just like to confirm that no one claimed an n1 shot on Fairy.

This is important how?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Norwee how sure are you on t3 and mastina

Mastina is hard locktown, and T3 is strong townread. A fairly bit stronger town than my confidence on you tbh.

[NorwegianboyEE]

T3 just keeps doing townie things, such as getting excited about some nonsensical scumslip from RCE.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Not an fan of Aristeia either, i liked their previous slot but this new one is just awful and not trying to solve at all.

do you understand that a player slot doesn't change alignment when a replacement happens?

because if you do, this post is kind of awful.

Them putting in a lot of effort into looking town doesn’t mean i can reconsider when an replacement doesn’t even seem remotely concerned about putting in effort into solving when it’s ElO.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Them putting in a lot of effort into looking town doesn’t mean i can reconsider when an replacement doesn’t even seem remotely concerned about putting in effort into solving when it’s ElO.

are you reconsidering because you think I'm mafia or are you reconsidering because you think I'm vulnerable and easy to push?

Pretty sure i said i had increasing suspicion prior to you repping in.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Aristeia going from flirty and fluffy fluffcloud to an hostile alien the moment i voice suspicion also makes me inclined to believe that i am correct.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I already said i'm voting RCE.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't understand how you can be so confident as town Norwee.

Haven't you been on literally every mis elim this game?

Like what are you even doing?

I'm playing mafia?
So like, because i was on the wrong eliminations for most of the game i should just break down and cry? Is that what you're saying? I'm doing my best and if it fails then unfortunately that means scum wins. And maybe i'll improve later.
Or i can keep trying and try to get at least some reads right.

[NorwegianboyEE]

can you give me the case for RCE scum?

I already posted my reasons earlier. When RCE called me toxic.
And that is also combined with the lack of interest in voting RCE yesterday from most players.
My image of yesterday as being town mostly voting town also fits with the image of an mafia team that had an relatively inactive player that sat things out- I,e, Emperor.

[NorwegianboyEE]

image of an mafia team that had an relatively inactive player that sat things out- I,e, Emperor.

Datisi and RCE also fit this for the record.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Retti part of Datisi hydra*

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don't understand your overconfidence when we've literally hit 0 scum and every wagon yesterday was on a town player.

Doesn't this just have to do with playstyle?
And if i really was so overconfident i would probably have voted RCE this very second, potential scum quickhammer be damned. I'm just very vocal about my opinions, which i always have been.

[NorwegianboyEE]

link me the case I'll read it.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... #p12952884

[NorwegianboyEE]

Not really.
I mean i've wanted RCE since day 2, and i haven't seen that flip yet so i don't feel completely wrong. More that i've been distracted by Mastina cases.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I did nothing last night.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I lowkey hoped some scum would fake claim i poisoned or something so i could 1v1 them to death. But no such luck it seems.

[NorwegianboyEE]

This way of claiming is taking so long.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Fuck it, i’m never gonna chanhe my vote anyway. VOTE: RCEnigma

[NorwegianboyEE]

It feels to me like the major scum strategy for ElO was: "Make Mastina look scummy because they led eliminations on town!!" and when both me and T3 said: "nah dawg" they were like: "well shit, we’re all out of ideas…"

[NorwegianboyEE]

The Alliance strikes back

[NorwegianboyEE]

RCE’s play is very lackluster here if he was town.
No sense of urgency whatsoever considering this would in theory be game losing from his POV.
That is why i believe he is scum and submitting to his fate.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Do you think Dwlee/GCB are the scum and Aristeia is town?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh, you meant you’re unsure between those two.
Wouldn’t it be wiser to dump all poison on Ari tonight then?

[NorwegianboyEE]

We shouldn’t play risky when town is so close to being outnumbered imo.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And yes, i believe it’s very likely scum is RCE/Aristeia/GCB

[NorwegianboyEE]

Limming Ari makes more sense here because we only need one pain to finish off Rce tonight but whatever.

Oh.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Couldn’t scum in theory heal each other? Or am i wrong.

[NorwegianboyEE]

We didn't even have everyone claim either lol

Who cares.
What’s important is limming mafia.

[NorwegianboyEE]

We switching?
Fine with me.
VOTE: Aristeia

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: RCEnigma
Again, i’m fine with either. But don’t make me switch my vote every 10 minutes omg.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mastina + T3 + Norwee = E-1

Mastina hasn’t voted.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It is very curious indeed that no scum has quickhammered yet considering "we’re headed to an loss" as Retti keeps repeating as his little mantra and i have an green pm so it should be quite easy if T3 was either town or scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also noting Retti’s obsession with me. I think he’s complained about me in practically every single post he’s made recently.

[NorwegianboyEE]

AIEEEE
Curse that Norwee!!

[NorwegianboyEE]

Stubbed my toe today, thank you VERY much for that one Norwee.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Sigh, Norwee poisoning the water supplies and creating general chaos and mayhem in the village again… Oh that easily-pocketable never-reevaluating meme-posting Norwee.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The problem with this is that your play is entirely reactive and emotional, based in no reason whatsoever, and shows zero willingness to re-evaluate or take pause even while having proven to be catastrophically wrong. I recognize that this has about a snowball's chance in hell of happening but it would be an abdication of duty for me to just not post at all.

You are being insufferable.

No. It is entirely logical and based on meta and decent town!casing arguments that i believe T3 and Mastina is town here.
If i’m wrong about you then perhaps it is so and i will realize it. But certainly not from any of your ridicule or name-calling.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also Datisi not being here is just astonishing if town here. Which is another point in favour of that hydra being scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m feeling that Retti might be attempting to gaslight me into doubting my solve. Because they’re not actually suggesting where i am wrong or who truly are scum. But just calling me reactive, emotional, that i’m ruining the game for him and it now sucks etc…
Very manipulative.

[NorwegianboyEE]

While it’s unfortunate to have Retti leave on such an bad note, i think this is the best for us both assuming he really is that annoyed at me.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Justifying using poison on me?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Because the game would be over?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t blame you Aristeia. You’re just doing what you need to say in order to save scum!RCE.
I get it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why would you care about me paining you if RCE flips town if you think RCE/Me are scum/scum?

I don’t. I was simply making an remark.
Anyway this is pointless bickering. I only need to make sure Mastina is convinced you are scum.
And to check if Datisi is really scum or not.

[NorwegianboyEE]

norwee, can yoi address why you thought scum was trying to get mastina yeeted and then you kept yelling how rce is the best yeet?

It wasn’t specifically referring to RCE? It was an gamestate read.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mafia would also try to distance.

Is this the supposed golden nugget that proves i was scum?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Vote RCE

[NorwegianboyEE]

He’s scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like maybe i am fundamentally wrong about a lot of my reads, but one thing i do know.
RCE mafioso

[NorwegianboyEE]

I can see through your soul.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That is how i know you are scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Post all of the logic-based and heavy text posts you want. I won’t be fooled.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Check my meta for any of my victorious scumgames. This is not how i play.
I would be very robotic and argumentative. This however is pure justice energy.

Yes i know Dwlee will post meta bad.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Call it the victory of fake smiles and agenda-oriented fake argumentation if RCE sneaks away with the win here. I’ll accept it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Not the first time i’ve lost to it, but i’ll keep trying.
Ph0enix, RCE.
People from the same cloth.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It’d one of those situations i often find myself in where all of the logic says i am scum, but i am not.


Suppose i should ask Retti for forgiveness if the game ends here with an loss. Sorry i am the way i am?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Real facts, if i was scum here you know i would try to pocket you again.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Their scumgame is really lackluster, i don’t think they would put in as much effort as they have in this game if they weren’t town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’ve seen Mastina be wrong about reads before, i just don’t equate that with: "omg BoP! They scum!".
Also i’ve correctly read them in almost every single game i’ve had with them so i trust myself to be able to see it if they were of the mafia allignment. And so far i don’t believe it is so.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also the supposed "mindless tunnels" you refer to were really convincing cases and i feel like Mastina truly believed in them.
If their heart was truly in it, why should they be scum?

[NorwegianboyEE]

that's the issue, i don't believe her heart was truly in it

Why?

[NorwegianboyEE]

If Mastina’s case was so garbage why would she push it with conviction? Mastina is an player that can only fully push when they believe what they are saying. You’re not looking at the deeper subconcious level but only assuming surface level= case bad which means Mastina scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

RCE meanwhile is saying all of the right things but their intentions are hostile.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Scum comes out of this looking good because they let Mastina make the wrong pushes for them, and then afterwards the fingers can be pointed at the players that were doing things. Even though they themselves haven’t done anything because they don’t care to solve the game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The way she could push a shit case even though it's shit is by being scum

No.
Also i disagree with the premise that it’s shit in the first place.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Because RCE doesn’t need to do anything. Whoever of you/GCB is town are doing it for them.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok so, i’m still not really buying any of this.
But in the case that Mastina is scum.
Who is she with?
Because from my perspective i’m town so who the heck would she even be with? It’s not convincing me if the team has me and T3 as their only exact possible team.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Then that’s just another reason to flip RCE.

[NorwegianboyEE]

what does this even mean - how are his intentions hostile if he's saying the right things?

I’m saying that he is mafia but he comes out looking better than me because he hasn’t done anything worthy to talk about this game. Mostly coasting.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Which is how would have played this game too if i was mafia to be fair.
No point sticking out your nevk when you don’t need to actually catch scum.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I feel so sad about my feud with Retti.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Wanna add me on steam and play some games then.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Would anyone like to make correspondence with your fellow citizen?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I guess their supposed theory is that in a world where i am scum and RCE is town that get's limmed that town will somehow manage to pile enough poison to kill me and mafia won't have enough poison to kill someone themselves?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Just seems like some really lazy conjecture.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I have no interest in putting effort into this game as fmpov this is almost certainly lost as town players refuse to see basic reason and instead listen to someone who is just shouting "rce scum".

Aww boo hoo Aristeia. Cry me a river.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Can we lim scum now?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I’m over with this whining, i’m just so over it.
Pulling the plug on RCE is so fricking hard because he is scum here, anyone should be able ro see it.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Whichever of Datisi/Dwlee is scum here, you’ll probably just be better off bussing RCE/Aristeia because this is just getting embarrassing.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Look at that high WIM from supposed town!RCE that went bowling the moment he got wagoned/scumread. And Aristeia swooping in like an shiny knight in armour to save their frozen scum partner.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That’s a lot of words from someone that barely cared about the game and just went "Look at me Datisi-senpai!" until RCE wagon hit too close to home.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You express extreme confidence in Mastina's "Towni-ness" despite multiple mis-elim pushes from her slot.

You still pushing this line? Mastina is undoubtedly town because all my experience with their slot and 100% correct read rate in past games tell me so.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The only people who are that confident at Elo about someone's towniness like that are scum - for they know who the town are and they know who they are pocketing.

Aha, but see.
My supposed confidence stems from the fact that i voted RCE. And i know i am town, yet there are 3 scum in this game.
So why no quickhammer from mafia? Are they not doing it? Did they simply not have everyone online at the same time? Did they decide to troll and just do nothing?
No. It’s obvious that irregardless of my allignment i DO have confidence to believe my read on RCE is correct here. So the claim that only scum is confident is wrong.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hm, i thought i quoted something else.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You're getting your timeline mixed up because it's all lies

Sorry, it’s hard when i don’t have an scum PT to take notes like you do.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You express extreme confidence in Mastina's "Towni-ness" despite multiple mis-elim pushes from her slot.

You still pushing this line? Mastina is undoubtedly town because all my experience with their slot and 100% correct read rate in past games tell me so.

You've seen Mastina!town push multiple mis-elims in the past? One after another?

are you going to answer this?

I have seen Mastina be criminally wrong multiple times.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That’s not me being scum. That’s just me being me.
If anything i am less likely to mess that up as scum. Because as town i just post without a care in the world. But as scum i want to be careful.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I have seen Mastina be criminally wrong multiple times.

Did you try to stop her then?

No. I let her push her solve because i thought it was correct and i trusted their allignment.
In the previous MBOS she killed town!FL but i fully supported the push because i trusted them and FL seemed like an good elimination.

[NorwegianboyEE]

if town!you knows that town!mastina can be criminally wrong on multiple reads, why would you not stop her from killing townie after townie?

This is an stupid question. I trusted Mastina and thought they might be correct.
Obviously i didn’t know for 100% sure they were pushing an townie everytime.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You’re also not acknowledging that Mastina townreads me with 95% certainty here.
Are you not going to respect the fact that you claim to believe they are town, yet is misreading me so badly?

[NorwegianboyEE]

In an previous game just weeks ago where i was scum Mastina literally HARD pushed me as mafia from their very first post in the game and said i was fcking obvious scum.

So now i just pocketed them easily all game?

[NorwegianboyEE]

You’re also not acknowledging that Mastina townreads me with 95% certainty here.
Are you not going to respect the fact that you claim to believe they are town, yet is misreading me so badly?

You yourself said Mastina!town is criminally wrong often

AHAHA

WEAK!

WEAK REPLY!

[NorwegianboyEE]

why do you think LLD flips her readslist upside down every time she decides Mastina is town?

Ah yes, but the LLD tell isn’t: "her highest townread in ElO is scum."
It’s: "her highest townread in the first reads list in the game is scum"

Who was that?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Green Cap Boys

The Emperor
ta vera

NorwegianboyEE

{The Limit Does Not Exist, Dwlee99, Titus}

cass.bruant

Fairy Circle (hydra of Momrangal and Flea the Magician)

Bingle

Rough readslist. I realize it's not great but is all I've got.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Girl, i’ve fought Flavour Leaf in ElO where he was hard pushing me as scum and with all of the odds against me in TM and still won.
Your push here is nothing.

[NorwegianboyEE]

All of the mafioso are coming out of the woodwork to save RCE here and that is excellent.

[NorwegianboyEE]

[NorwegianboyEE]

If T3 is bussing then that still just means killing RCE is a good idea.
Seems very unlikely for scum!T3 to do that instead of just voting to kill me if RCE was their partner because that means at least 1 town would be voting me right now so T3 could just quickhammer me with his remaining teammate.

[NorwegianboyEE]

So no, T3 is town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

At this point i feel like RCE and Ari are both 100% confirmed scum, while Mastina and T3 are 100% confirmed town.
That leaves the problem of finding out which of Dwlee and GCB are scum/town, and with an reasonable grade of certainty.
Mastina, i want you to think on this, as this is the last real question we need to ask ourselves.
I’ll look into it when i get more time today, it’s the last thing i need to do.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Seems very unlikely for scum!T3 to do that instead of just voting to kill me if RCE was their partner

because that means at least 1 town would be voting me right now

so T3 could just quickhammer me with his remaining teammate.

don't see how this one has to be true?

Unless the team is exactly T3 + RCE + Aristeia.
Do you believe that?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Actually maybe should consider that just for claritys sake.
Check to see if T3 has any interactions with either of the two that is impossible.

[NorwegianboyEE]

is there anything i'm missing that makes that team clearly unviable?

Possibly not… as annoying as that is to say.
I’m not sure how likely it is, but not 0?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I mean, post 1800 and 1802 is kinda awkward with the extremely fast unvote.

[NorwegianboyEE]

2057 and 2058

[NorwegianboyEE]

I just iso'd Limit and F4'd for T3 and its like all over the place.

I don't really understand the progression from T3 town, t3 NAI, t3 i dont know to T3 is lockscum lets kill him?

It feels quite reachy and desperate.

I don't think it's something I've ever seen SS do before? pls correct me if I'm wrong.

THANK YOU
YOU ARE TOWN
PROBABLY
unless this is some weird af pocket.

I'm thinking
So Dwlee/RCE are in the PoE and probably not scum together. Ari is the only one left outside of my locktowns [mastina, Norwee, GCB]
so uh this 'locktown isn't really locktown'
Ari is basically 100% scum here unless I just suck at reading s/s interactions

Idk, maybe it’s not such an stupid theory as i thought. Because T3’s reads on both RCE and Aristeia seem a bit like distancing attempts.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Would the 1000 IQ play here be to vote T3 if these associations continue being bad just to see if it is right on the money?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh my god, it totally is.
So GCB/Dwlee are both town and my unability to pin down the scum between the two is exactly that? While T3/Aristeia/RCE are pulling some 1v1 nonsense to distance?

My mind is blown omfg.

[NorwegianboyEE]

T3 what do you have to say about this?

[NorwegianboyEE]

That is the greatest response.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Tell me i’m not being crazy here anyone.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And the reason T3 got an avatar in this game is because he was scum it’s all making sense~~

[NorwegianboyEE]

Genuine or good faith. Hmmm

[NorwegianboyEE]

If there is one thing i’ve learnt about myself today, it’s that i find the greatest of humor in absurd situations.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Who ARE RCE’s teammates T3?

[NorwegianboyEE]

*Stabs voodoo doll of RCE with needle while impatiently waiting for an answer*

[NorwegianboyEE]

What are you doing? >_>

[NorwegianboyEE]

Really? Because i got the impression that you were lolcatting.

[NorwegianboyEE]

[NorwegianboyEE]

Whatever Aristeia says it is completely pointless to listen.

[NorwegianboyEE]

They are lierally pushing you as my teammate.

[NorwegianboyEE]

How can you buy into an "hero solve" when it includes you?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Did you ever read Team Mafia 2020 Anime Theme Dwlee?
This Elo is giving me such heavy vibes from that game.
We’ve got this huge town apathy even though it’s so fcking obvious who the scum are.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh i meant 2021.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ah so Dwlee is town.
Aristeia is putting her charm into that slot so it’s the key. They need him for the miselim on me.

So scum are RCE/Aristeia/GCB

Game solved.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mastina/Dwlee the last votes needed to elim scum. Mastina is leaning me being town so Dwlee is their last hope.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That’s all you can say, you’re like an record player on repeat.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Blah blah Titus… blah blah openwolf…

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why don’t you just say that you believe Mastina is my teammate here? Afraid to anger them?

[NorwegianboyEE]

So who is my third teammate?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I want an answer you slippery eel.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You can’t just continue shading me+T3 and claim that there is some mystery boogeyman third scum that doesn’t even seem to exist.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You don’t want to attack Mastina because you’re afraid. And you need Dwlee on your side.
What is left for you to argue?
Is it check mate?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Aristeia’s silence speaks for itself, they have nothing more to say.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Avoiding the answer.
How very sad.

I expected more from them.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I literally have the solve right here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

So Aristeia/RCE/Datisi is the team, just to remind y’all.

[NorwegianboyEE]

No weaksauce stance here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I knew Ari would try to sell Datisi as my teammate.
Classic scum tactic.
Push town but say that one of the scum can be alligned with him.

So what do we have. One of Dwlee/Datisi is my teammate according to Ari.

Well Datisi slot and i have very strong anti-associative posts all game. And Dwlee is someone they don’t want to push too hard because they need his vote.

Their case= T R A S H !

[NorwegianboyEE]

I can keep going all day with dismantling your posts Aristeia. You have lost.

[NorwegianboyEE]

You’re still ignoring my points.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Me and T3 can never be a scum team because it doesn’t work with anyone.
An team of RCE/Aristeia/Datisi however is plausible, and not just that but confirmed from my POV.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Your very limited options here are=

A: Acknowledge Mastina as potential scum after all, and allied with me+T3. (Unlikely, as you’ve already gone too far into your townread on Mastina to turn back now)
B: Claim Dwlee is the the scum and Titus was right all along. (Well, there goes your chance at convincing Dwlee. And Mastina is not going to be on your side)
C: Claim Datisi is scum with T3/Datisi. (Perhaos the best option, but now you’ve got the problem that there is a lot of posts and arguments that Norwegianboy can point out as unlikely to come from SvS, so that will be an tough sell.)
D: Completely ignore my very valid points and hope nobody tries to use their brain too much.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Given the abscence of any argumentation it can be logically deduced that the only remaining team of mafia that makes sense is RCE/Ari/Datisi