mini theme 2229: MBOS 13 schweppes' pulpy potions daya 5

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I did not doc or harmo.

[T3]

pain

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So...

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Can I just vote?

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Do you

(ta vera)

always catch up like this, rather than waiting to read a little ahead to see if your queries have already been answered?

Btw this vaguely does look like scum-scum distancing/theater to me (which would implicate their replacements, RCE and Aristeia), but obviously, not sure about that.

OH
I MADE A POST SAYING THE WORDING OF SOMEONE'S POST FELT WEIRD BUT IN A WAY I COULDN'T DESCRIBE AND NOW I GET WHY

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on the contrary, i find that i confbias myself into seeing townies as towny when i'm scum.

this could be what The Emperor is doing.
VOTE: The Emperor

Incorrect

Reads are hard and fast here when Order 66 is on the horizon

what do you mean by that?

I like pushing any reads or thoughts I have out, also helps getting the game going early

do you have any scumreads? do you actually scumread me?

Do you

actually

scumread me feels really weird.

THISSSSSSSSS

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VOTE: ta vera
Cereal Vote.

{Green Cap Boys The Emperor/Aristeia}


NorwegianboyEE


{mastina}

cass.bruant/T3


{Dwlee}

ta vera/RCEnigma

ta vera/RCE was a Bingle suspicion. Granted,

Mastina
NorwegianboyEE



{Green Cap Boys, The Emperor/Aristeia}

T3

RCE
Dwlee

Was reevaluated to be a bit higher (fourth from bottom, but two names below RCE are now dead), but still looks like a Bingle-endorsed suspicion overall.

Nkabad BUT I support your message.

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beautiful
Vibes can be okay but the word actually implies that ta knew emp's scumreads

could be faked

This post sounded weird but when mastina mentioned possible theater between ta/emp I realized why
Ari/RCE/Dwlee = gg?

[T3]

Sort-of-mindmeld with mastina
YESSSS

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Ari/RCE/Dwlee = gg?

Why in the hell am I in this list

Unless one of Norwee/The capz are scum the team is probably exactly that
PERFECT

[T3]

mastina vc stuff could make GCB scum with RCE and Ari but there is the caveat of vcabad.

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Ari/RCE/Dwlee = gg?

Why in the hell am I in this list

Unless one of Norwee/The capz are scum the team is probably exactly that
PERFECT

I pain potioned RCE. How can I be scum with him exactly?

No proof.

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Lol it's so obvious norwee is going to end up throwing this game, cheers
-R

Btw one reason that makes me currently lean GCB over Dwlee for third scum albeit admittedly weakly so:

This quote.

Do you see what I see, here?

Because after I saw it I was left wondering a question about Retti's perspective in the game, as this post kinda looked like a perspective-slip to me.

that makes so much sense

Although Norwee is very town.

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I spent all of yesterday saying "kill emperor or RCE" ??

aaaaaaand then flipped onto other wagons

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I get your point.
but meta

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I went onto limit because game literally wouldn't progress without that going through.

There is 1 scum in you/GCB almost no matter what here.

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Spoiler: For t3

Bingle town limit town get RCE

Bingle town limit town get RCE

So bingle no potion and no see other potion. Not mafia

Limit give good gut feeling. Not mafia

Rce bad vibe >:(

Bingle
Green cap
Norwee

Fairy
Limit
T3

Mastina
Emperor
RCE

My middle is like town leans but calling the scum team is unlikely so I'd reeval in there if people in bottom list flipped town but I'd think t3 is scum over limit rn but I'm sort of hazy on it if that makes sense.

Okay sure let's kill emperor then!

(I don't consider emperor really deepwolf territory because he is less widely townread)

VOTE: TLDNE
I just want something to happen

VOTE: RCE
I changed my mind and I don't feel like going along with this just because no one is willing to agree with me. If limit is scum someone is definitely bussing here but none of the pushes feel like bussing so limit is probably just flipping town here.

And maybe I'm wrong and if limit flips scum egg on face etc. etc. but gamestate read just tells me this is wrong and almost the entire town is going along with deep wolf BS.

oh

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Still gonna be mad if it's t3/mastina/norwee btw but yes sure

Unless this mindmeld was planned through a time machine mastina and I just can't be scum.

[T3]

Still gonna be mad if it's t3/mastina/norwee btw but yes sure

Unless this mindmeld was planned through a time machine mastina and I just can't be scum.

Do you think it's impossible for scum to agree with each other on a townie making a weird sounding post?

I mentioned it sounded weird waaaay back day 1 and then mastina touched upon it in her reread now.

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Unless the me/mastina thing was planned since day 1 we are both town.

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CALLING ALL TOWNIES
vote gcb ari and rce

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VOTE: rce
This is a wagon.

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We should claim our pain so that tonight we can assault everyone in the poe with ain.

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Let's assume rce flips scum because if he doesn't then there will be no tonight.

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The new block made of town: Me, mastina, Norwee

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RCE’s play is very lackluster here if he was town.
No sense of urgency whatsoever considering this would in theory be game losing from his POV.
That is why i believe he is scum and submitting to his fate.

Pretty much.

[T3]

World 1: RCE is town
We lose.
World 2: RCE is scum.
The other scum will have started with 2 or 3 pain between them, so potion spec is useless.

Should we on the assumption RCE is scum massclaim our potions and then throw them in Dwlee/GCB?

[T3]

RCE/Ari/{Dwlee/Caps}
This is autowin probably.

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Do you think Dwlee/GCB are the scum and Aristeia is town?

RCE scum makes Ari scum very likely. The last scum is in GCB/Dwlee. I don't think it matters, actually.

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Oh, you meant you’re unsure between those two.
Wouldn’t it be wiser to dump all poison on Ari tonight then?

I was thinking we kill GCB or Dwlee tonight, then lim Ari.
It really doesn't matter.

[T3]

Limming Ari makes more sense here because we only need one pain to finish off Rce tonight but whatever.

We don't know for a fact you pained RCE, although I see this coming from your town POV.

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Couldn’t scum in theory heal each other? Or am i wrong.

They will probably have 1 doc and either 1 or 0 jailkeepers. So yes.

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Well then paining RCE needs 1 potion +? 1 but Ari would need 2 +? 1. Although we don't know who if one of them has a jailkeep. Assuming this is the right solve ofc

Actually I don't think it can hurt. VOTE: ari

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VOTE: rce
Actually wait nah Dwlee could be lying and RCE has some powerful potion.

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I don't really think it matters again because Dwlee could be scum and he has reason to lie?

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RCE effectively scumclaimed with his reaction.

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RCE is also a prime doctor target for his partners possible doctor potions.
Point is, if Dwlee is scum then RCE should be limmed, if Dwlee is town then it doesn't matter. So we lim RCE.

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The question is if it's worth yelling at norwee for the absurdity of his solve and the notion that scum's gameplan entering the day was to convince him to vote his top townread. It's like he has literally no understanding of the concept of a path to victory.

It's very likely the game is already in a loss state for town and was entering the day and so fighting against it is just screaming into the void.

T3's play right now is nightmarish, although I'm certainly not clearing RCE off it.

- R

lmao?

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Even assuming mastina is town here, why can t3 not be partnered with Ari or emperor?

So your play yesterday could have been ineffective bussing and whiteknighting. It's slightly town AI.

[T3]

Mastina led us to three town deaths on people I townread. She called a town slip a scum slip, pushed bingle for shit reasons, but she is town on meta. Okay

Exactly.

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T3 even said he had a meta read on the way I interact with partners that doesn't hold to his current idea that I could be partnered with RCE

Meta bad

ok

[T3]

Retti is being massively scummy.

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GCB and Ari soft defending RCE makes me think the consensus solve is right.

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It's not an absolute but it's more likely than not you are town assuming ari/rce scum.

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f a c t s

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Like maybe i am fundamentally wrong about a lot of my reads, but one thing i do know.
RCE mafioso

Yep.

[T3]

bored

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Don't have steam.
Also I'm procrastinating on english homework

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ahhhh

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To be is to do - Plato
To do is to be - Jean Paul Sartre
Do be do be do - Frank Sinatra

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fun fun
Scumteam is just Ari/RCE/GCB the end

[T3]

oh my god
pages

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in fact her highest confidence townread is

usually scum

why do you think LLD flips her readslist upside down every time she decides Mastina is town?


that's the town mindset.

You basically just used Mastina to kill everyone in this town while shitpushing with your drivel

i-....

[T3]

also i looked at schadd's iso and i couldn't find a single vc yesterday where t3 was voting rce, which made me all the more ??? at how certain he seemed at that vote today

He was at the top of my poe

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Oh my god, it totally is.
So GCB/Dwlee are both town and my unability to pin down the scum between the two is exactly that? While T3/Aristeia/RCE are pulling some 1v1 nonsense to distance?

My mind is blown omfg.

no

[T3]

Tell me i’m not being crazy here anyone.

wish i could

@t3 you're free to explain your trajectory on my slot whenever you're ready

towny
then really towny
then just kinda towny
then sorta scummy

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that's not gonna cut it

i need that more in depth + quotes/links

you were towny because of your reaction to norwee
then you were really towny because scum you doesn't get angry
then you dropped off the face of the earth
then retti was scummy and defended scum rce

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you were calling retti scummy for being angry which is one of the reasons i am very :thonk: on your reads here being genuine or good faith

i did?
oh
wow that actually really does sound like a bad faith read

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wall-e

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trying to psyche everyone out so they vote the mod

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Datisi's recent posting has ben towny
So maybe dwleeeeee

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Really? Because i got the impression that you were lolcatting.

We do not speak of such 'lolcatting'

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Probably dwlee

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Me being partnered with RCE or Ari makes no sense

it really doesn't

[T3]

Thanks for spewing dwlee as town!

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lol ari

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I like how RCE never came back.

same

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Omfg i just missed my bus stop typing that. -_-

omg yes
norwee is bussing ari
the game is solved /j

[T3]

Ari's case is so terrible
Likke since when is a scum strat to spam and powerwolf

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xD
imagine like actually doing that
scum usually show up less on hammered wagons, not more

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ikr
now let's convince mastina to vote so dwlee can quickhammer

[T3]

hmmm
yes

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I would just like to point out that norwee is obvious town.

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I'm not scum because I received a green pm.

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I don't know how to say this to your face Datisi... but you're scum.

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Hm wait
Dwlee hasbeen yelling at rce but never voted them today

[T3]

Theoretically it could be dwlee
But also like nah

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I don't know how to say this to your face Datisi... but you're scum.

and again with the nonsense shitpush wee

Yes
pedit: no retti just had bad reads

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imagine thinking mastina is scum

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vote ari or rce pleas

[T3]

PAIN
if limit is town

Make that four slots at minimum. (Might be more than 4, obviously, if I missed some slots' plans but suffice to say: there were in fact people saying how to use potions for N2.)

That was actually not me planning how to use potions.

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i'm just sitting here laughing out of sheer boredom

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So your solve is RCE/Ari/T3?

ಠ_ಠ

how long have i been saying that now?

t3 is a semi-wildcard and i would need to review whatever retti said about you/rce but independent of that, t3 strikes me as possible rce partner because he made sure to be on that vote as early as possible (i.e. as soon as relatively townread norwee voted there) but he's been doing next to nothing to actually push that through, and he's went from being locktown on our slot to apparently being sure it's the scumteam because of lolwhat reasons

poe
also retti was scummy

[T3]

The observation about me in 2226 seems more likely to come from town but also Datisi is scum

[T3]

It is very curious indeed that no scum has quickhammered yet considering "we’re headed to an loss" as Retti keeps repeating as his little mantra and i have an green pm so it should be quite easy if T3 was either town or scum.

I mean, people

sleep

, Norwee, don't know if you're aware of that. I'm not taking lack of a hammer to mean much at all until there's actual posts.

And have also said I think it's still highly plausible RCE is scum! Trying to read RCE's ISO was part of why I said "screw it" and stopped trying to play this, because I look at the words and they mean nothing to me Don't think you understand what the idea of a loss state is. Doesn't have to be on this game day, can be further down the road, but likely they know your vote is secured when they need it.

-R

This post was why I scumread him.

[T3]

oh my god
pages

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VOTE: RCE
Night night friends

oh cool
me norwee dwlee win

[T3]

okay
it was me/norwee/datisi
also it's elo
so......

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Spoiler: some more thoughts

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ[/youtube]

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i'm just the world's worst troll
for reals though, i'm town

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i could theoretically do some stuff tonight :0

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God now I'm being trolled

you are

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Datisi is just scum here
PoE
the end

[T3]

I literally did

[T3]

read my iso thanks

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you were the weakest of my locktowns and also dwlee makes 0 sense with rce or ari

[T3]

and mastina shot up my readlist

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also retti was soft defending rce like 'uwu yes rce is scum BUT PLEASE DON'T LIM HIM'

[T3]

I didn't
also i harmod ari to see if i could confirm someone's action, got no result

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I mean yeah, there is 1 scum in you and dats

[T3]

poe
mastina obvtowned
Anyways I got a doc, a harmo, and a pain

[T3]

I would once again like to point out that I received no result on my harmo and then Datisi claims to have jailkept me
So that means Datisi and I are confirmed to have not lied about our actions, at least .-.

[T3]

it's probably autowin here
VOTE: datisi

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I would once again like to point out that I received no result on my harmo and then Datisi claims to have jailkept me
So that means Datisi and I are confirmed to have not lied about our actions, at least .-.

Ok? Did Datisi claim to have jailkept you first?

no

[T3]

I would once again like to point out that I received no result on my harmo and then Datisi claims to have jailkept me
So that means Datisi and I are confirmed to have not lied about our actions, at least .-.

Ok? Did Datisi claim to have jailkept you first?

no

[T3]

I didn't
also i harmod ari to see if i could confirm someone's action, got no result

oh btw, i had one jailkeep potion, and i used it on t3 last night. y'all are welcome.

So T3, you claimed to have used an harmography potion and specifically got "no result" as opposed to "your action failed" and then Datisi claims to have jailkept you on the same night?

If a Tracker's action itself fails, it does not produce any results; the Tracker will get a "no result" PM. If the action succeeds, this produces a result that is clearly distinguishable from a "no result" PM (even if no actions were observed by the successful track); for example, a Tracker who is roleblocked might get a PM "Your action failed, and you did not receive a result", whereas a Tracker who tracks a Vanilla Townie might get a result of "Target did not target anybody last night".

a segment from the wiki, "no result" is literally always used as "your action failed" when it comes to roles like tracker/watcher and the idea that i apparently wouldn't even notice i'm putting out a screwy fakeclaim is like, lol?

Ok i'll admit i'm dumb. I realized on a re-read of last pages that it's pretty obviously T3 if he's gonna not vote Aristeia but do you instead.

VOTE: ari
oh i forgot about ari lol

[T3]

If t3 got blocked I'm pretty sure no result is what would make sense

Yeah but was it "X was not target by anyone" or specifically "no result". The difference is vital.

I mean that I received no result

[T3]

Datisi's conviction is towny
but also he's scum

[T3]

WEEEEEEEE ARE THE CHAMPIONS
IN AUTOWI-I-IN
hopefully

[T3]

scheeeeeeeeeeed

[T3]

I legit just forgot ari wasn't dead

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Results y'all?

hi

[T3]

it's auto DEPENDING on what potions people have
massclaim
with mastina's claim it probably is autowin unless scum have multiple jailkeepers

[T3]

k
it's just datasi
probably
either way norwee and mastina are 100% town and dwlee like 90%

[T3]

Congrats, gg town!
tbh I'm happy with my play this game

[T3]

me doing the mastina mindmeld thing was a last ditch pocket attempt when dwlee started to obvtown

[T3]

The mafia player rand:

Has good and accurate reads / Is good at convincing others to their cause / is able to obvtown

Choose one! (You will suck at everything else)

mini normal 2226: had 1 scum as locktown, the other 2 as townreads
obvtowned and faked a pr slip and died

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Btw T3 can you please tell me

• What motivated your push on my in LN 235
  
• What information you were ORIGINALLY trying to indicate in mini 2226

you didn't townread me for efforting a metaread in ln but you did in 2236
i wasn't trying to indicate anything, i saw an opportunity to fake a pr and i took it