In post 363, JamesTheNames wrote:After doing that and doing some pondering about mechanics, 3 things came to mind before anything else.
First of all, in 33 Dwlee tells us he rolled a Town Parity Cop with a Multitasking modification, as such, I put down the scores for such a role, in the list earlier.
The numbers he gave us were, [12, 8, 14] the 12 means Town, the 8 means Parity Cop, the 14 means Rampaging. Note, Rampaging, not Multitasking.
Secondly, in 14 we get told he rolled a Mason role, we don't have a Mason role revealed by anybody.
Thirdly, we are informed by redtea that there is a Mafia Fruit Vendor, I'm not going to say I don't believe this but for now I'll say I'm neutral on this claim. My reasoning for this is as follows, if we assume redtea initially rolled Town Fruit Vendor, and was then giving a non-Town role, him revealing the Fruit Vendor as Mafia, means the Fruit Vendor can no longer use their abilities, as they'd be seen as scum for doing so (correct me if I'm incorrect). So if there is a Town Fruit Vendor hiding out there somewhere, can you reveal yourself if so? If not I believe it is safe to assume redtea is telling the truth at least in terms of alignment.
It is possible that I might be able to give fruit. My role was not in the list. I suspect I might have cyrus' roll.
no i rolled 7 7 1 = 15
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:21 pm
by Thor Ragnarok
I really don't know how to use my role and I'd love some advice for how to use it
If there's a neighborizer or recruiter, just talk to me now so I can get pointers early before I use it on someone I shouldn't
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:33 pm
by JamesTheNames
In post 401, Thor Ragnarok wrote:I really don't know how to use my role and I'd love some advice for how to use it
If there's a neighborizer or recruiter, just talk to me now so I can get pointers early before I use it on someone I shouldn't
I think any role can complement a person's strong points. Once you realise how to connect it with your strong points you'll be fine, you won't need a neighborizer.
I couldn't tell you, we haven't played a game together nor have you done much just yet.
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 12:38 pm
by Thor Ragnarok
In post 305, cyrus62 wrote:Very good story I honestly didn't think we made it that far into space since are rover has just made it to Mars . And to discover such things but didn't we just make it to the moon in 1954 ? Was that whole story science faction?
It really is a good story. I'm not sure either if it's just science fiction or if there's truth to it, but I want to explore one of these stars one day.
Hunter is either town or unpartnered scum here - I don't think he asks that if he has a PT. Also, Hunter, if you look at your sent messages, it will show the results of your rolls. Use that with the chart in the setup post.
I don't really understand the unvote unless you are prioritizing team scum over other scum factions and intentional dumb tells do exist. Whats his scum game like? I think Hunter's play is scummy so....I'm voting there for now.
In post 121, cyrus62 wrote:fyi this is how i play i currently sorting you and gauging your responses to find out if i think your pro team or anti team. basically you feel kinda anti to me right now.
not a huge fan of this - feels like dressed up OMGUS
Hunter is either town or unpartnered scum here - I don't think he asks that if he has a PT. Also, Hunter, if you look at your sent messages, it will show the results of your rolls. Use that with the chart in the setup post.
I don't really understand the unvote unless you are prioritizing team scum over other scum factions and intentional dumb tells do exist. Whats his scum game like? I think Hunter's play is scummy so....I'm voting there for now.
My vote was still the RVS vote on Dragon. As for Hunter, well, he's a naturally scummy player even as town, but as scum I think he does rely on the PT.
Then again, that was before whatever that gambit was. That was... weird. VOTE: Robert M Hunter
I am prioritizing finding Cult Leader over finding a scum team. I'm not ignoring team scum, but I'd rather focus on stopping the cult before it gets too big to manage. I've never played in a cult game before, but I'd imagine that in a game like this, they would want to fish for roles that are beneficial to them, while hunting for scum because they can't cult them if they have a PT.
Now that we've all claimed what our rolls were, I was wondering if anyone had rolled a 20 for alignment because of this. I don't know if there would be hints in the flavour, though.
In post 121, cyrus62 wrote:fyi this is how i play i currently sorting you and gauging your responses to find out if i think your pro team or anti team. basically you feel kinda anti to me right now.
not a huge fan of this - feels like dressed up OMGUS
Hunter is either town or unpartnered scum here - I don't think he asks that if he has a PT. Also, Hunter, if you look at your sent messages, it will show the results of your rolls. Use that with the chart in the setup post.
I don't really understand the unvote unless you are prioritizing team scum over other scum factions and intentional dumb tells do exist. Whats his scum game like? I think Hunter's play is scummy so....I'm voting there for now.
My vote was still the RVS vote on Dragon. As for Hunter, well, he's a naturally scummy player even as town, but as scum I think he does rely on the PT.
Then again, that was before whatever that gambit was. That was... weird. VOTE: Robert M Hunter
I am prioritizing finding Cult Leader over finding a scum team. I'm not ignoring team scum, but I'd rather focus on stopping the cult before it gets too big to manage. I've never played in a cult game before, but I'd imagine that in a game like this, they would want to fish for roles that are beneficial to them, while hunting for scum because they can't cult them if they have a PT.
I don't think Hunter is cult leader
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:46 pm
by redtea
In post 306, cyrus62 wrote:Any way I see that we had a lot actively early but now it has faded and no ones even scum hunting at all besides James ,Nero red tea and my self.
you?????
lmfao no you're not. i know you can and you're not.
like i want to believe's dragon's read because he's played with you before but I'm not convinced.
In post 292, cyrus62 wrote:
I have always been a very quick reader how is that scummy
i did not mean to imply anything by that comment, other than that you have unreasonable expectations
In post 283, cyrus62 wrote:i could act scummy if you like james everything i have done so far fits my town meta though.
How does that make you town?
How would I know this isn't scum you acting in what you think is your "town meta".
This isn't a valid defence nor a reason not to scum read you, it only increases my confidence because you can't come up with a coherent excuse.
their posting feels really manufactured and LAMIST-y
like it's not genuine, just going through the motions
In post 286, redtea wrote:jamesthenames: probably scum, but could be improved town
cyrus: scum
how are you reconciling this considering James is tunneling cyrus?
i guess i can see that, but i also think that's how she plays.
as of his most recent posts, james is neutral for now.
tbh i kind of forgot he was doing that lol
he should join me on voting cyrus again
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:49 pm
by redtea
Spoiler: @Dwlee
In post 362, Dwlee99 wrote:I'm guessing the mod changed a bunch of alignments.
or ppl r lyingg
In post 379, Dwlee99 wrote:T3 I want your James townread explanation cause I feel like he is spending his time finding LHF or weird non-AI stuff to scumread people for. Messing up what modifier I rolled isn't scum-indicative but James thinks it is worthy of a vote.
you're misrepresenting his case. I think it mostly hinged on you claiming mason, which you have since clarified was an inside joke.
then again, he hasn't unvoted.
Spoiler: @Dragon
In post 336, Dragon of the West wrote:Cyrus is permanent VI in my mind, I don't really care about limming there until like closer to Melo unless it's just absolutely assured he's scum
if he's either scum or VI then why in the world would you save him for
Hunter is either town or unpartnered scum here - I don't think he asks that if he has a PT. Also, Hunter, if you look at your sent messages, it will show the results of your rolls. Use that with the chart in the setup post.
I don't really understand the unvote unless you are prioritizing team scum over other scum factions and intentional dumb tells do exist. Whats his scum game like? I think Hunter's play is scummy so....I'm voting there for now.
My vote was still the RVS vote on Dragon. As for Hunter, well, he's a naturally scummy player even as town, but as scum I think he does rely on the PT.
Then again, that was before whatever that gambit was. That was... weird. VOTE: Robert M Hunter
I am prioritizing finding Cult Leader over finding a scum team. I'm not ignoring team scum, but I'd rather focus on stopping the cult before it gets too big to manage. I've never played in a cult game before, but I'd imagine that in a game like this, they would want to fish for roles that are beneficial to them, while hunting for scum because they can't cult them if they have a PT.
Does that exclude nigeborizor pts?
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:53 pm
by cyrus62
Red tea I'm hunting scum I just don't give town reads leans or nul reads nor do I give scum reads leans . If I think I found scum I vote them till I see a flip.
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:54 pm
by cyrus62
I'm voting Nero cuse I think he's anti team. Not pro team.
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:57 pm
by JamesTheNames
In post 417, cyrus62 wrote:Red tea I'm hunting scum I just don't give town reads leans or nul reads nor do I give scum reads leans . If I think I found scum I vote them till I see a flip.
So you don't hunt scum? You wait for scum to slip. Scum hunting is partly identifying somebody you find suspicious, acting based on those suspicions, and going from there. You're just waiting on others to do the work. The majority of your posts are fluff unfortunately. UNVOTE: Dwell99 VOTE: cyrus62
This is just for my understanding because I've seen it before but never actually asked what it means, what does "improved town" mean?
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2021 3:09 pm
by JamesTheNames
@Dragon of the West, 2 things:
1) Why are you so determined to stop be pushing cyrus62? I'd understand a comment or two, but 6/13 of your posts relate basically to people wasting time pushing / policy voting cyrus62. I don't think this is AI I just find it really strange, it would be far too convenient for this to be a scum defence after all.
2) Why do you think an increase in Thor Ragnarok's activity would be scum indicative? I really had Thor Ragnarok pegged as a Jester, but nobody rolled it (provided people told the truth), and I can't think of a single case where a person wouldn't out a Jester existing.
Hunter is either town or unpartnered scum here - I don't think he asks that if he has a PT. Also, Hunter, if you look at your sent messages, it will show the results of your rolls. Use that with the chart in the setup post.
you don't think
he
asks this or you don't think scum in general asks this?
In post 409, Marashu wrote:As for Hunter, well, he's a naturally scummy player even as town, but as scum I think he does rely on the PT.
this quote explained the vibes i got. His sheeping was weak af. He joined and then never talked about it again.
I might sheep your read, if i don't get around to meta'ing him. For now i definitely wanna get rid of cyrus however. I have a good feeling.
This is just for my understanding because I've seen it before but never actually asked what it means, what does "improved town" mean?
er, what i mean is based on your meta. your scum play had a much more imbalanced word count/substance ratio. Your current play seems more balanced, but you're also definitely participating more than what I saw in your town games. Based on that, either you're scum toning it down, or town improving your game, is what my thoughts were.
In post 417, cyrus62 wrote:Red tea I'm hunting scum I just don't give town reads leans or nul reads nor do I give scum reads leans . If I think I found scum I vote them till I see a flip.
okay. I didn't say you're not giving reads. I said you're not hunting.
1) Why are you so determined to stop be pushing cyrus62? I'd understand a comment or two, but 6/13 of your posts relate basically to people wasting time pushing / policy voting cyrus62. I don't think this is AI I just find it really strange, it would be far too convenient for this to be a scum defence after all.
2) Why do you think an increase in Thor Ragnarok's activity would be scum indicative? I really had Thor Ragnarok pegged as a Jester, but nobody rolled it (provided people told the truth), and I can't think of a single case where a person wouldn't out a Jester existing.
i know i'm not him but as for 2, i'm pretty sure it's a conclusion based on Thor thinking he'd be a better player/would be better invested as a different role, and was trying to get recruited. So far the only recruiting role there is a claim for is cult. So Thor suddenly getting invested in the game = Thor was culted.
Which I don't like personally because I don't want to discourage him from playing with the role he has for the benefit of town(?), just because he might get scumread for it. But, Dragon's not necessarily
wrong
that it's something to look out for after a night phase.
